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ETF2L player falsely banned for supposedly aimbot
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#31
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Although the ETF2L AC team definitely has their flaws, I've not seen a case of someone being banned for cheating where I felt it wasn't warranted. I don't think the AC is relying on an out-dated bot to solely make these decisions, and pretending like they are without inside knowledge of the AC team is a useless argument.

If ry actually does end up coming to i65 and preforming at a decent level (and not playing horribly and blaming "lan nerves") I'll be very surprised.

Although the ETF2L AC team definitely has their flaws, I've not seen a case of someone being banned for cheating where I felt it wasn't warranted. I don't think the AC is relying on an out-dated bot to solely make these decisions, and pretending like they are without inside knowledge of the AC team is a useless argument.

If ry actually does end up coming to i65 and preforming at a decent level (and not playing horribly and blaming "lan nerves") I'll be very surprised.
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#32
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jealous irish middies can’t touch the pure sauce that is ryry

jealous irish middies can’t touch the pure sauce that is ryry
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#33
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So one individual person said he thinks the admins made a mistake and says that the AC team is still going to review it and you say:

ryI know this for a fact because UGC requested the evidence to mirror my ban—were shown the two demos—but realised ETF2L were making a mistake & stopped short of doing so. UGC themselves are NOT banning me because they themselves do not trust the ETF2L AC team; they are misinformed.

Bit of a jump don't you think?

So one individual person said he thinks the admins made a mistake and says that the AC team is still going to review it and you say:

[quote=ry]I know this for a fact because UGC requested the evidence to mirror my ban—were shown the two demos—but realised ETF2L were making a mistake & stopped short of doing so. UGC themselves are NOT banning me because they themselves do not trust the ETF2L AC team; they are misinformed.[/quote]

Bit of a jump don't you think?
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#34
14 Frags +

I hope the ETF2L AC people got it right and keep cheaters out.
Atleast you can still play UGC & Mixes and scrim before i65, you can go to LAN and prove everyone wrong.
I think it's bad that you're getting so many people involved, you should be able to resolve this between you & admins.

gl

I hope the ETF2L AC people got it right and keep cheaters out.
Atleast you can still play UGC & Mixes and scrim before i65, you can go to LAN and prove everyone wrong.
I think it's bad that you're getting so many people involved, you should be able to resolve this between you & admins.

gl
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#35
55 Frags +

these guys have been harassing etf2l admins and their friends, calling them slurs, and lying through their teeth

both of them are degenerates, let this thread die

these guys have been harassing etf2l admins and their friends, calling them slurs, and lying through their teeth

both of them are degenerates, let this thread die
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#36
-9 Frags +

this thread will never die

this thread will never die
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#37
7 Frags +

Ry you cost my Fresh Meat team 6 whole points! If you buy me a pint at i65 we'll call it even...

Ry you cost my Fresh Meat team 6 whole points! If you buy me a pint at i65 we'll call it even...
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#38
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this ry guy has perfect logs, literally every game is perfect http://logs.tf/profile/76561198424844078?p=1
no cheats of course 4Head

this ry guy has perfect logs, literally every game is perfect http://logs.tf/profile/76561198424844078?p=1
no cheats of course 4Head
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#39
46 Frags +

Just wanted to give a shout out and thanks to the current ETF2L AC team, they do a thankless job investing hours of time (on top of IRL and other online commitments) to try and ensure the league we play is kept clean, it seems the only time they get exposure is when a player publicly attacks them.

To refer to these people as "clearly inadequate" simply shows a fundamental misunderstanding of who these admins are; The ETF2L AC team is AFAIK the longest running AC team within TF2 and has a vast list of alumni, the collective experience and knowledge which has been accumulated and shared within the team is exceptional.

I have every faith that each and every member of the team does their upmost to scrutinise evidence and accusations to arrive at the correct decision.

Just wanted to give a shout out and thanks to the current ETF2L AC team, they do a thankless job investing hours of time (on top of IRL and other online commitments) to try and ensure the league we play is kept clean, it seems the only time they get exposure is when a player publicly attacks them.

To refer to these people as "clearly inadequate" simply shows a fundamental misunderstanding of who these admins are; The ETF2L AC team is AFAIK the longest running AC team within TF2 and has a vast list of alumni, the collective experience and knowledge which has been accumulated and shared within the team is exceptional.

I have every faith that each and every member of the team does their upmost to scrutinise evidence and accusations to arrive at the correct decision.
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#40
38 Frags +

this ry guys logs makes him look like the best player to ever touch the game

this ry guys logs makes him look like the best player to ever touch the game
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#41
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jamalthis ry guys logs makes him look like the best player to ever touch the game

Having good logs in Fresh Meat doesn't make you a god

[quote=jamal]this ry guys logs makes him look like the best player to ever touch the game[/quote]

Having good logs in Fresh Meat doesn't make you a god
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#42
5 Frags +

Tbf I remember Ombra shitting on everyone when I played Fresh Meat. Though not quite like that.

On a related note, doesn't play soldier much does he

Tbf I remember Ombra shitting on everyone when I played Fresh Meat. Though not quite like that.

On a related note, doesn't play soldier much does he
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#43
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he plays demo as well so your point abuot aimbot being hitscan(im assuming this is where ur going) only is invalid

he plays demo as well so your point abuot aimbot being hitscan(im assuming this is where ur going) only is invalid
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#44
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StalinPowerthis ry guy has perfect logs, literally every game is perfect http://logs.tf/profile/76561198424844078?p=1
no cheats of course 4Head
jamalthis ry guys logs makes him look like the best player to ever touch the game

I've been playing with him for about a month and his logs are insane, as you could imagine I was a little sceptical but if you watch his POVs he plays the game by the book. It's more a matter of the players he's up against failing to kill him. If you didn't already know, these logs are taken from Fresh Meat scrims and matches Ry has either merc'd in or played with our main roster. For someone who wanted to go straight to Div2 after playing FM, its no surprise he's getting those numbers and if he was cheating he'd be hitting a lot more shots in those games than he already was. I'd suggest watching the demos before coming to conclusions instead of just looking at his logs.

[quote=StalinPower]this ry guy has perfect logs, literally every game is perfect http://logs.tf/profile/76561198424844078?p=1
no cheats of course 4Head[/quote]
[quote=jamal]this ry guys logs makes him look like the best player to ever touch the game[/quote]

I've been playing with him for about a month and his logs are insane, as you could imagine I was a little sceptical but if you watch his POVs he plays the game by the book. It's more a matter of the players he's up against failing to kill him. If you didn't already know, these logs are taken from Fresh Meat scrims and matches Ry has either merc'd in or played with our main roster. For someone who wanted to go straight to Div2 after playing FM, its no surprise he's getting those numbers and if he was cheating he'd be hitting a lot more shots in those games than he already was. I'd suggest watching the demos before coming to conclusions instead of just looking at his logs.
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#45
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wtzhe plays demo as well so your point abuot aimbot being hitscan(im assuming this is where ur going) only is invalid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egWtA7jD8g4

[quote=wtz]he plays demo as well so your point abuot aimbot being hitscan(im assuming this is where ur going) only is invalid[/quote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egWtA7jD8g4
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#46
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Aight so, RY guy has been reported on etf2l and ugc for cheating. He has been on etf2l since 7 years, he just played few games. His profile is full of csgo, quake games ( which is good camouflage for cheater. you know, pro gamer in all games, whats tf2 and gamesens for him? nothing. ) I’m prem sniper and i don’t think im that bad to see player hitting everything on soldier, scout, sniper with no experience at all. His aiming is questionable. I don’t like to report players for cheating but that guy is fishy.

Aight so, RY guy has been reported on etf2l and ugc for cheating. He has been on etf2l since 7 years, he just played few games. His profile is full of csgo, quake games ( which is good camouflage for cheater. you know, pro gamer in all games, whats tf2 and gamesens for him? nothing. ) I’m prem sniper and i don’t think im that bad to see player hitting everything on soldier, scout, sniper with no experience at all. His aiming is questionable. I don’t like to report players for cheating but that guy is fishy.
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#47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9AMsNGV534 ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9AMsNGV534 ?
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#48
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Yep and you have to waddle everywhere or do a straight jump...

Yep and you have to waddle everywhere or do a straight jump...
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#49
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have you ever thought that the guy in the video, using cheats, may suck at this video game and doesnt know how to rocket jump

have you ever thought that the guy in the video, using cheats, may suck at this video game and doesnt know how to rocket jump
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#50
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wtzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9AMsNGV534 ?

Why is it almost always furries who do this shit?

[quote=wtz]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9AMsNGV534 ?[/quote]
Why is it almost always furries who do this shit?
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#51
4 Frags +

You can't airstrafe when your cheats are locking onto whoever they want...

And yes, cheaters are usually bad.

Final nail in the coffin as to why demo is easier to cheat on than solly, autodet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npOMA1UjhpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-LJoP7hl5I

You can't airstrafe when your cheats are locking onto whoever they want...

And yes, cheaters are usually bad.

Final nail in the coffin as to why demo is easier to cheat on than solly, autodet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npOMA1UjhpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-LJoP7hl5I
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#52
22 Frags +

ahhahah lmao you have a furry avatar get fucked

ahhahah lmao you have a furry avatar get fucked
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#53
11 Frags +
wtzhe plays demo as well so your point abuot aimbot being hitscan(im assuming this is where ur going) only is invalid

In one game he did almost 15k damage in total and two thirds of it are on the grenade launcher. It is safe to assume that the sticky launcher damage comes from the kritzkrieg used in that game because despite doing only around 5k on stickies in comparison to the almost 10k on pipes he almost has the same amount of kills on both weapons. So you are telling me his gameplay is completely legit because he did play demo in some games?
http://logs.tf/2269242#76561198424844078

[quote=wtz]he plays demo as well so your point abuot aimbot being hitscan(im assuming this is where ur going) only is invalid[/quote]

In one game he did almost 15k damage in total and two thirds of it are on the grenade launcher. It is safe to assume that the sticky launcher damage comes from the kritzkrieg used in that game because despite doing only around 5k on stickies in comparison to the almost 10k on pipes he almost has the same amount of kills on both weapons. So you are telling me his gameplay is completely legit because he did play demo in some games?
http://logs.tf/2269242#76561198424844078
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#54
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Not fussed me i really just don care lol

Not fussed me i really just don care lol
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#55
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Gazwtzhe plays demo as well so your point abuot aimbot being hitscan(im assuming this is where ur going) only is invalid
In one game he did almost 15k damage in total and two thirds of it are on the grenade launcher. It is safe to assume that the sticky launcher damage comes from the kritzkrieg used in that game because despite doing only around 5k on stickies in comparison to the almost 10k on pipes he almost has the same amount of kills on both weapons. So you are telling me his gameplay is completely legit because he did play demo in some games?
http://logs.tf/2269242#76561198424844078

r u illiterate? when did I say he was legit

[quote=Gaz][quote=wtz]he plays demo as well so your point abuot aimbot being hitscan(im assuming this is where ur going) only is invalid[/quote]

In one game he did almost 15k damage in total and two thirds of it are on the grenade launcher. It is safe to assume that the sticky launcher damage comes from the kritzkrieg used in that game because despite doing only around 5k on stickies in comparison to the almost 10k on pipes he almost has the same amount of kills on both weapons. So you are telling me his gameplay is completely legit because he did play demo in some games?
http://logs.tf/2269242#76561198424844078[/quote]
r u illiterate? when did I say he was legit
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#56
15 Frags +

Raziel is drunk but it's King's Day please forgive him

Raziel is drunk but it's King's Day please forgive him
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#57
33 Frags +

there never was a bot or a program that told the ac team if someone is cheating or not please dont spread false info

also the 'ill prove it at lan argument' is fucking retarded , every donkey can grind dm for 3 months and look crazy in this game

there never was a bot or a program that told the ac team if someone is cheating or not please dont spread false info

also the 'ill prove it at lan argument' is fucking retarded , every donkey can grind dm for 3 months and look crazy in this game
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#58
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tldr LOOOO

tldr LOOOO
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#59
4 Frags +

i took the time to look through the product demo given by ry here: http://etf2l.org/matches/75341/ logs of the match here: http://logs.tf/2269242

personally i didn't see anything that i could point out to that would indicate that ry is cheating. however i'm going to say here that this was me watching the demo through it's entirety at 100% speed, no rewinding and no slowing down anything.

the only thing of note that i saw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8vkMoNqW1Q i don't play demoman and i don't know how to play demoman, this sticky could be standard procedure, i'm not sure. it was the only thing that stood out to me when watching the demo. other than that the demo just for the most part looked like an experienced demoman giving the absolute dick to some new players.

it's also good to say here that this was a demo of him playing demoman and not something like scout where an aimbot for example would be easier to spot.

i took the time to look through the product demo given by ry here: http://etf2l.org/matches/75341/ logs of the match here: http://logs.tf/2269242

personally i didn't see anything that i could point out to that would indicate that ry is cheating. however i'm going to say here that this was me watching the demo through it's entirety at 100% speed, no rewinding and no slowing down anything.

the only thing of note that i saw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8vkMoNqW1Q i don't play demoman and i don't know how to play demoman, this sticky could be standard procedure, i'm not sure. it was the only thing that stood out to me when watching the demo. other than that the demo just for the most part looked like an experienced demoman giving the absolute dick to some new players.

it's also good to say here that this was a demo of him playing demoman and not something like scout where an aimbot for example would be easier to spot.
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#60
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StylaxYou can't airstrafe when your cheats are locking onto whoever they want...

And yes, cheaters are usually bad.

Final nail in the coffin as to why demo is easier to cheat on than solly, autodet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npOMA1UjhpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-LJoP7hl5I

hhhhhhhhhh we were talking about 2 different things :) i wasn’t arguing this point at all (:

[quote=Stylax]You can't airstrafe when your cheats are locking onto whoever they want...

And yes, cheaters are usually bad.

[b]Final nail in the coffin as to why demo is easier to cheat on than solly, a[/b]utodet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npOMA1UjhpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-LJoP7hl5I[/quote]
hhhhhhhhhh we were talking about 2 different things :) i wasn’t arguing this point at all (:
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