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ETF2L player falsely banned for supposedly aimbot
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#61
6 Frags +

Btw yall dont you find that strange that he is speaking through his FMC leader rather than defending himself in here?
To me its a big red flag, it feels like something a petty attention seeker would do, the ban, the giant rant, and then proceeds to go radio silence in the thread

Btw yall dont you find that strange that he is speaking through his FMC leader rather than defending himself in here?
To me its a big red flag, it feels like something a petty attention seeker would do, the ban, the giant rant, and then proceeds to go radio silence in the thread
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#62
52 Frags +
MatTjBtw yall dont you find that strange that he is speaking through his FMC leader rather than defending himself in here?
To me its a big red flag, it feels like something a petty attention seeker would do, the ban, the giant rant, and then proceeds to go radio silence in the thread

Offside is a quicky bomb launcher badlands mid demo mge main. İf u know this information u literally do not have to pay attention to this thread lol

[quote=MatTj]Btw yall dont you find that strange that he is speaking through his FMC leader rather than defending himself in here?
To me its a big red flag, it feels like something a petty attention seeker would do, the ban, the giant rant, and then proceeds to go radio silence in the thread[/quote]

Offside is a quicky bomb launcher badlands mid demo mge main. İf u know this information u literally do not have to pay attention to this thread lol
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#63
56 Frags +

No one cares offside go back to skial mge

No one cares offside go back to skial mge
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#64
11 Frags +

sting the nonce lads

sting the nonce lads
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#65
-21 Frags +
nuthousei took the time to look through the product demo given by ry here: http://etf2l.org/matches/75341/ logs of the match here: http://logs.tf/2269242

personally i didn't see anything that i could point out to that would indicate that ry is cheating. however i'm going to say here that this was me watching the demo through it's entirety at 100% speed, no rewinding and no slowing down anything.

the only thing of note that i saw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8vkMoNqW1Q i don't play demoman and i don't know how to play demoman, this sticky could be standard procedure, i'm not sure. it was the only thing that stood out to me when watching the demo. other than that the demo just for the most part looked like an experienced demoman giving the absolute dick to some new players.

it's also good to say here that this was a demo of him playing demoman and not something like scout where an aimbot for example would be easier to spot.

I’m happy to reply to those taking the time to make an informed decision based off the provided demos. Thanks for doing so. I can explain any/every instance people consider dodgy & or cheating.
The Demoman went left on every former rollout & would always beat me there because, well, I’m useless at jumping. I probably should have practiced it, haha. I decided to pre-fire this time & lo & behold it hit him. For the record, Demoman is probably my worst 6s class; I was playing him to improve while mercing.

[quote=nuthouse]i took the time to look through the product demo given by ry here: http://etf2l.org/matches/75341/ logs of the match here: http://logs.tf/2269242

personally i didn't see anything that i could point out to that would indicate that ry is cheating. however i'm going to say here that this was me watching the demo through it's entirety at 100% speed, no rewinding and no slowing down anything.

the only thing of note that i saw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8vkMoNqW1Q i don't play demoman and i don't know how to play demoman, this sticky could be standard procedure, i'm not sure. it was the only thing that stood out to me when watching the demo. other than that the demo just for the most part looked like an experienced demoman giving the absolute dick to some new players.

it's also good to say here that this was a demo of him playing demoman and not something like scout where an aimbot for example would be easier to spot.[/quote]
I’m happy to reply to those taking the time to make an informed decision based off the provided demos. Thanks for doing so. I can explain any/every instance people consider dodgy & or cheating.
The Demoman went left on every former rollout & would always beat me there because, well, I’m useless at jumping. I probably should have practiced it, haha. I decided to pre-fire this time & lo & behold it hit him. For the record, Demoman is probably my worst 6s class; I was playing him to improve while mercing.
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#66
9 Frags +
hpqoeuWhat this thread needs at this time is the same french circlejerk that defended baud/azn/broda/night terrror to spice it up a bit. ever since those people stopped playing its never been the same in the etf2l ban posts.

When Baud was banned someone on ETF2L fiourms said that his human rights were being violated and that it should be dealt with by the United Nations i'm not joking honestly. He edited the part out but here is the thread anyway (http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24855/page-1/)

Baud also made a video to prove his innocence and everyone fell for it and the AC team got non stop angry frenchies demanding he be unbanned (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0inNa3pTgc8)

After his 1 year ban was up, this happened (https://www.teamfortress.tv/21655/baud-banned-again)

Maybe he was just using transparent viewmodels like Thalash!!!

[quote=hpqoeu]What this thread needs at this time is the same french circlejerk that defended baud/azn/broda/night terrror to spice it up a bit. ever since those people stopped playing its never been the same in the etf2l ban posts.
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When Baud was banned someone on ETF2L fiourms said that his human rights were being violated and that it should be dealt with by the United Nations i'm not joking honestly. He edited the part out but here is the thread anyway (http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24855/page-1/)

Baud also made a video to prove his innocence and everyone fell for it and the AC team got non stop angry frenchies demanding he be unbanned (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0inNa3pTgc8)


After his 1 year ban was up, this happened (https://www.teamfortress.tv/21655/baud-banned-again)

Maybe he was just using transparent viewmodels like Thalash!!!
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#67
18 Frags +
ryry (...) The Demoman went left on every former rollout & would always beat me there because, well, I’m useless at jumping. I probably should have practiced it, haha. I decided to (...)

Useless at jumping but god tier DM?
hol up

[quote=ryry] (...) The Demoman went left on every former rollout & would always beat me there because, well, I’m useless at jumping. I probably should have practiced it, haha. I decided to (...) [/quote]

Useless at jumping but god tier DM?
hol up
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#68
38 Frags +

Just for the record, our Anti-Cheat team does not have a magical bot or algorithm that tells us if a player is cheating or not (that would be cool though, better VAC detection when Valve?). We look at each reported case individually, which of course means that we do analyse the provided demos and look at any other evidence that is relevant to the case. We don’t share any information about proper ban proceedings or specific case info with the public simply because we cannot alert suspects that they are under review or risk giving cheaters the chance to adapt to our methods. We don’t ban players “on a whim”. No case result is decided on by a single person, it is a collective task of ETF2L’s Anti-Cheat staff.

To Ry:
I don’t know why you are so fixated on what happened like nine years ago, admittedly I haven’t been on the staff for too long but I can still tell you that things have very much changed and improved over that time period. You can’t handpick two single incidents that old and apply them to the current day, especially when the staff-member composition has changed multiple times over the years.

Your point of “they didn’t properly watch the demos because the other team didn’t get a warning for having two Pyros on Gully last!”, well… frankly it’s not our task to provide warnings for that and afaik your team didn’t report the incident to ETF2L’s League Staff either. Your team still easily won that round and the two Pyros had no effect on the outcome of what was essentially a 7-minute Gullywash 5-0 roll, there is no reason to forward the incident to League Admins if your own team doesn't care enough to report it either.
I also don’t know why you go around spreading a rumour that the single reason you got banned was one clip. That is pretty hilarious to be honest. Don't think about saying you don't mean it like that either, we had people approach us asking if the reason for your ban was that single clip.

PS: Your argument of “proving everyone wrong at i65”; even if you do attend LAN and do well there, that does not automatically mean that you have never cheated in the past.

Just for the record, our Anti-Cheat team does not have a magical bot or algorithm that tells us if a player is cheating or not (that would be cool though, better VAC detection when Valve?). We look at each reported case individually, which of course means that we do analyse the provided demos and look at any other evidence that is relevant to the case. We don’t share any information about proper ban proceedings or specific case info with the public simply because we cannot alert suspects that they are under review or risk giving cheaters the chance to adapt to our methods. We don’t ban players “on a whim”. No case result is decided on by a single person, it is a collective task of ETF2L’s Anti-Cheat staff.

To Ry:
I don’t know why you are so fixated on what happened like nine years ago, admittedly I haven’t been on the staff for too long but I can still tell you that things have very much changed and improved over that time period. You can’t handpick two single incidents that old and apply them to the current day, especially when the staff-member composition has changed multiple times over the years.

Your point of “they didn’t properly watch the demos because the other team didn’t get a warning for having two Pyros on Gully last!”, well… frankly it’s not our task to provide warnings for that and afaik your team didn’t report the incident to ETF2L’s League Staff either. Your team still easily won that round and the two Pyros had no effect on the outcome of what was essentially a 7-minute Gullywash 5-0 roll, there is no reason to forward the incident to League Admins if your own team doesn't care enough to report it either.
I also don’t know why you [url=https://pasteboard.co/IcdzzCo.png]go around spreading a rumour that the single reason you got banned was one clip[/url]. That is pretty hilarious to be honest. Don't think about saying you don't mean it like that either, we had people approach us asking if the reason for your ban was that single clip.

PS: Your argument of “proving everyone wrong at i65”; even if you do attend LAN and do well there, that does not automatically mean that you have never cheated in the past.
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#69
34 Frags +

look I didn’t want to have to do this but seeing as it looks like the only option now, and I’m sure sheepy could back me up having never beat me despite being the best scout in europe

ry, mge me.

look I didn’t want to have to do this but seeing as it looks like the only option now, and I’m sure sheepy could back me up having never beat me despite being the best scout in europe

ry, mge me.
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#70
-24 Frags +
Funslook I didn’t want to have to do this but seeing as it looks like the only option now, and I’m sure sheepy could back me up having never beat me despite being the best scout in europe

ry, mge me.

Drop an IP & let’s do it, I don’t see why not.

[quote=Funs]look I didn’t want to have to do this but seeing as it looks like the only option now, and I’m sure sheepy could back me up having never beat me despite being the best scout in europe

ry, mge me.[/quote]
Drop an IP & let’s do it, I don’t see why not.
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#71
10 Frags +

expected reaction from someone who downloads hacks that claim to be undetectable by VAC and assumed that this means there's no way an AC team can detect what a program can't, I'm fairly sure ETF2L's AC Team as well as several other leagues' can detect even the most subtle hacks and illegal scripts after about 10 years of dealing with this and then passing down the stuff they've dealt with

expected reaction from someone who downloads hacks that claim to be undetectable by VAC and assumed that this means there's no way an AC team can detect what a program can't, I'm fairly sure ETF2L's AC Team as well as several other leagues' can detect even the most subtle hacks and illegal scripts after about 10 years of dealing with this and then passing down the stuff they've dealt with
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#72
22 Frags +

I don't see what your goal is here. Are you trying to get unbanned?
Because, and im just spit balling, calling the AC Staff "moronic imbeciles" probably is not a good way to do so nor to sound convincing.
And being misinformed about how AC's structure works is just a needless ignorant assumption.

I don't see what your goal is here. Are you trying to get unbanned?
Because, and im just spit balling, calling the AC Staff "moronic imbeciles" probably is not a good way to do so nor to sound convincing.
And being misinformed about how AC's structure works is just a needless ignorant assumption.
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#73
19 Frags +

Offside and drama - name a more iconic duo

Offside and drama - name a more iconic duo
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#74
-6 Frags +

Ariana Grande and Stevie Wonder

Ariana Grande and Stevie Wonder
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#75
8 Frags +
ryryFunslook I didn’t want to have to do this but seeing as it looks like the only option now, and I’m sure sheepy could back me up having never beat me despite being the best scout in europe

ry, mge me.
Drop an IP & let’s do it, I don’t see why not.

dont do it ry,,,,,hes not worth ur time,,,,at insomnia lets see you at,,,,100%

[quote=ryry][quote=Funs]look I didn’t want to have to do this but seeing as it looks like the only option now, and I’m sure sheepy could back me up having never beat me despite being the best scout in europe

ry, mge me.[/quote]
Drop an IP & let’s do it, I don’t see why not.[/quote]

dont do it ry,,,,,hes not worth ur time,,,,at insomnia lets see you at,,,,100%
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#76
-42 Frags +
MakOffside is a quicky bomb launcher badlands mid demo mge main. İf u know this information u literally do not have to pay attention to this thread lol

I'd rather call myself a process mid main TBH, clearly you don't know my MGE preferences. If you're going to shit talk me get the information right at least :DDDD

[quote=Mak]Offside is a quicky bomb launcher badlands mid demo mge main. İf u know this information u literally do not have to pay attention to this thread lol[/quote]

I'd rather call myself a process mid main TBH, clearly you don't know my MGE preferences. If you're going to shit talk me get the information right at least :DDDD
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#77
13 Frags +

:DDDD

:DDDD
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#78
16 Frags +

remember how you talked to me about how you should improve in a game and I told you to not be a retard
seems like you didn't listen

remember how you talked to me about how you should improve in a game and I told you to not be a retard
seems like you didn't listen
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#79
20 Frags +

https://i.redd.it/7x49imdmlmu21.jpg

[img]https://i.redd.it/7x49imdmlmu21.jpg[/img]
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#80
-20 Frags +
StalinPowerthis ry guy has perfect logs, literally every game is perfect http://logs.tf/profile/76561198424844078?p=1
no cheats of course 4Head

Of course his logs are going to look good when he's better than the people he's playing against.
Besides, not all of his logs are perfect at all. Some are better than others and some are worse than others but the point is on average, he's not a bad player.

Look at these logs and take your head out of your arse.

http://logs.tf/2270085#76561198424844078

[quote=StalinPower]this ry guy has perfect logs, literally every game is perfect http://logs.tf/profile/76561198424844078?p=1
no cheats of course 4Head[/quote]

Of course his logs are going to look good when he's better than the people he's playing against.
Besides, not all of his logs are perfect at all. Some are better than others and some are worse than others but the point is on average, he's not a bad player.

Look at these logs and take your head out of your arse.

http://logs.tf/2270085#76561198424844078
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#81
20 Frags +

Oh yes, it's almost as if cheats are not turned on 100% of the time, and can easily be disabled...

EDIT: and of course it's the one and only log he has after receiving his ban LOL

Oh yes, it's almost as if cheats are not turned on 100% of the time, and can easily be disabled...

EDIT: and of course it's the one and only log he has after receiving his ban LOL
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#82
7 Frags +

cya

cya
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#83
33 Frags +
Deletabix[...]

lmao

[quote=Deletabix]
[...]
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[url=https://pasteboard.co/IcfFVv9.png]lmao[/url]
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#84
18 Frags +

Bit more sober now but looking at those logs I'm calling bullshit. Everyone can have a bad day and have shittier logs than normal, but you went from consistently hardcore big-dicking 55-4 to 10-16 right after you got banned. I might be retarded, but maybe not THAT retarded

Bit more sober now but looking at those logs I'm calling bullshit. Everyone can have a bad day and have shittier logs than normal, but you went from consistently hardcore big-dicking 55-4 to 10-16 right after you got banned. I might be retarded, but maybe not THAT retarded
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#85
32 Frags +
AmaterasuDeletabix[...]
lmao

its hard to believe an actual person wrote all that

[quote=Amaterasu][quote=Deletabix]
[...]
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[url=https://pasteboard.co/IcfFVv9.png]lmao[/url][/quote]
its hard to believe an actual person wrote all that
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#86
0 Frags +

tf2 anarchists are pathetic loooooooooooooool

tf2 anarchists are pathetic loooooooooooooool
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#87
14 Frags +

1. Never use the words of my son Rob "KoreanBBQ" Moermann out of context for your personal gain, let alone defend a cheater, offside (or whatever your next alias will be now that you are dragging your 2nd one into the dirt as well)

2. Thanks to the AC team, i used to give them shit for taking a long time in the past so im glad this is handled quickly and consequently especially given what lovely human beings everyone involved turns out to be, keep it up.

3. Dunno if DigWar still supports your 6s team at all but i doubt they would want to be associated with any of this.

1. Never use the words of my son Rob "KoreanBBQ" Moermann out of context for your personal gain, let alone defend a cheater, offside (or whatever your next alias will be now that you are dragging your 2nd one into the dirt as well)

2. Thanks to the AC team, i used to give them shit for taking a long time in the past so im glad this is handled quickly and consequently especially given what lovely human beings everyone involved turns out to be, keep it up.

3. Dunno if DigWar still supports your 6s team at all but i doubt they would want to be associated with any of this.
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#88
3 Frags +
AmaterasuDeletabix[...]
lmao

gottem boys

[quote=Amaterasu][quote=Deletabix]
[...]
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[url=https://pasteboard.co/IcfFVv9.png]lmao[/url][/quote]
gottem boys
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#89
-1 Frags +

lookin in the demo for some timestamps

lookin in the demo for some timestamps
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#90
8 Frags +

nah homie u dont go 55-4, 48-8, 37-8, 32-3, all in a row vs average players. idc who u are, especially since no one even in EU seems to have heard of this rando

nah homie u dont go 55-4, 48-8, 37-8, 32-3, all in a row vs average players. idc who u are, especially since no one even in EU seems to have heard of this rando
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