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ETF2L player falsely banned for supposedly aimbot
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I quote from the man himself.

"ʀ ʏ ʀ ʏToday at 14:11
I dunno why I keep wasting my time with this, but oh well.
Suppose this is my 1,000-word statement about it.

If you care & or wish to be more informed about the situation, simply go to my Steam profile & read the comments.
For some background, I have been playing TF2 for a good part of a decade. I have had multiple Steam accounts over the years but have never intentionally used an alternate on a competitive platform. The account many people point to is/was hijacked & I found myself continuously signed out. I had no control over it & Steam was relatively unhelpful @ the time. I might as well make another to keep myself safe, right? I didn’t bother contacting ETF2L at the time, but eventually I had all my statistics swapped from my old ETF2L account to my new one. Hence, this resulted in the old one being “blacklisted”. You can tell this is true because my “aimbot” account is 6 years old despite the Steam account only being 2~.

I have been interested/watching TF2 competitively since roughly i43 which I attended in person to spectate. I was young at the time & it looked like a lot of fun. The same applies to i46. Given that, I never got into a team nor decided to devote myself to play scrims/mixes. I didn’t have a very good PC (have an old Dropbox w/ some very, very old screenshots on it) & was limited by what I could/could not play. Some may know me from a while back from the alias ‘PixL’ as I used to frequently join a competitive cp_orange/dm servers with ETF2L members on it. Upon hearing about HOI & others potentially giving the original FMC a go, I decided I’d try it with some friends. We didn’t do particularly well & the meta was horrific (Vaccinator). I didn’t find it particularly fun & so didn’t continue taking an interest. One of these people decided to give competitive TF2 another go in S32 & I hesitantly tried lending a hand. FMC2 was announced & I felt if I was ever going to play, I might as well do it now. It’d also be a good way to get into contact with Mid+ players so I could theoretically skip playing in Open/Low for a season if I did well. Funnily enough, I was doing too well & we’ve got the situation I’m in now, haha.

ETF2L has banned me over 2 POV demos across 1 official I played Scout by using an outdated algorithm without reviewing the demos properly themselves. This is well documented in the quad case I have listed on my profile. If they properly reviewed demos, the opposing team would have been given a warning about using 2 Pyros on Gullywash Last.

I know this for a fact because UGC requested the evidence to mirror my ban—were shown the two demos—but realised ETF2L were making a mistake & stopped short of doing so. UGC themselves are NOT banning me because they themselves do not trust the ETF2L AC team; they are misinformed.
This is why the wider community should seriously question what ETF2L is doing &, honestly, how untrustworthy the league & the admins are. I think it’s perfectly reasonable that each & every ban (given how infrequent they are) has its evidence & process made public. However, ETF2L are unwilling to do this to any great length as it would expose their downright reliance on, well, a sketchy bot.

No, I do not cheat nor intended to ruin the league. The admins are clearly inadequate & have been for years. I’m sorry if I’ve ruined the FMC for some of you, but the onus is not on me for simply playing the game. I will be—most likely—attending i65 to prove ETF2L are both incapable of managing a league & headed by morons.
Aoshi & others straight-up brand players “cheaters” without any proper understanding of cheats, how they operate & are coded. Simply put, they rely on outdated toolkits developed years ago by someone (see quad pastebin/article). I sincerely doubt they even have any experience using & investigating a cheat; a core principle of being on an AC team.

They show no proper understanding of how various forms of aim assist (aimbot, aimkeys, triggerbots, etc.) function nor are willing to have a proper conversation with me about it. Unfortunately, for those who do possess this knowledge, you are headed & overruled by egotistic, arrogant people who are unwilling to put their pride to one side for a minute. They went out on a whim, took a random guess & attached the “aimbot” tag to me.
So, because of this I am going to make all my P-RECs publicly available to download from my Steam profile. I would genuinely be impressed if you could find anything remotely concrete… because there is nothing. Do note ETF2L potentially reviewed a maximum of 6 & only 6 demos… 4 of these were on Demoman. You have roughly 30 or so to look at; take that into consideration.

Anyway, ETF2L continues to act under a banner of secrecy when it comes to bans for an upsetting reason: they are just as clueless as any other player. They appoint random, highly-respected players (e.g. Byte & Bash) to take the brunt of false accusations when they screw it up. They are not experienced, well-informed people with a background in cheat development, detection & management. They hope that the wider community will simply swallow what they say & that’ll be that. Sadly, most people seem happy to accept that but I’m hopeful my case can highlight the broken system of ETF2L."

Links for the stuff related.
Quad Case: https://pastebin.com/bjUuwn0c
http://etf2l.org/matches/75290/ - Match where the opponent used two pyros. (Demos are on there for anybody to watch)
http://etf2l.org/forum/user/91024/
https://steamcommunity.com/id/ryryboy/

I quote from the man himself.

"ʀ ʏ ʀ ʏToday at 14:11
I dunno why I keep wasting my time with this, but oh well.
Suppose this is my 1,000-word statement about it.

If you care & or wish to be more informed about the situation, simply go to my Steam profile & read the comments.
For some background, I have been playing TF2 for a good part of a decade. I have had multiple Steam accounts over the years but have never intentionally used an alternate on a competitive platform. The account many people point to is/was hijacked & I found myself continuously signed out. I had no control over it & Steam was relatively unhelpful @ the time. I might as well make another to keep myself safe, right? I didn’t bother contacting ETF2L at the time, but eventually I had all my statistics swapped from my old ETF2L account to my new one. Hence, this resulted in the old one being “blacklisted”. You can tell this is true because my “aimbot” account is 6 years old despite the Steam account only being 2~.

I have been interested/watching TF2 competitively since roughly i43 which I attended in person to spectate. I was young at the time & it looked like a lot of fun. The same applies to i46. Given that, I never got into a team nor decided to devote myself to play scrims/mixes. I didn’t have a very good PC (have an old Dropbox w/ some very, very old screenshots on it) & was limited by what I could/could not play. Some may know me from a while back from the alias ‘PixL’ as I used to frequently join a competitive cp_orange/dm servers with ETF2L members on it. Upon hearing about HOI & others potentially giving the original FMC a go, I decided I’d try it with some friends. We didn’t do particularly well & the meta was horrific (Vaccinator). I didn’t find it particularly fun & so didn’t continue taking an interest. One of these people decided to give competitive TF2 another go in S32 & I hesitantly tried lending a hand. FMC2 was announced & I felt if I was ever going to play, I might as well do it now. It’d also be a good way to get into contact with Mid+ players so I could theoretically skip playing in Open/Low for a season if I did well. Funnily enough, I was doing too well & we’ve got the situation I’m in now, haha.

ETF2L has banned me over 2 POV demos across 1 official I played Scout by using an outdated algorithm without reviewing the demos properly themselves. This is well documented in the quad case I have listed on my profile. If they properly reviewed demos, the opposing team would have been given a warning about using 2 Pyros on Gullywash Last.

I know this for a fact because UGC requested the evidence to mirror my ban—were shown the two demos—but realised ETF2L were making a mistake & stopped short of doing so. UGC themselves are NOT banning me because they themselves do not trust the ETF2L AC team; they are misinformed.
This is why the wider community should seriously question what ETF2L is doing &, honestly, how untrustworthy the league & the admins are. I think it’s perfectly reasonable that each & every ban (given how infrequent they are) has its evidence & process made public. However, ETF2L are unwilling to do this to any great length as it would expose their downright reliance on, well, a sketchy bot.

No, I do not cheat nor intended to ruin the league. The admins are clearly inadequate & have been for years. I’m sorry if I’ve ruined the FMC for some of you, but the onus is not on me for simply playing the game. I will be—most likely—attending i65 to prove ETF2L are both incapable of managing a league & headed by morons.
Aoshi & others straight-up brand players “cheaters” without any proper understanding of cheats, how they operate & are coded. Simply put, they rely on outdated toolkits developed years ago by someone (see quad pastebin/article). I sincerely doubt they even have any experience using & investigating a cheat; a core principle of being on an AC team.

They show no proper understanding of how various forms of aim assist (aimbot, aimkeys, triggerbots, etc.) function nor are willing to have a proper conversation with me about it. Unfortunately, for those who do possess this knowledge, you are headed & overruled by egotistic, arrogant people who are unwilling to put their pride to one side for a minute. They went out on a whim, took a random guess & attached the “aimbot” tag to me.
So, because of this I am going to make all my P-RECs publicly available to download from my Steam profile. I would genuinely be impressed if you could find anything remotely concrete… because there is nothing. Do note ETF2L potentially reviewed a maximum of 6 & only 6 demos… 4 of these were on Demoman. You have roughly 30 or so to look at; take that into consideration.

Anyway, ETF2L continues to act under a banner of secrecy when it comes to bans for an upsetting reason: they are just as clueless as any other player. They appoint random, highly-respected players (e.g. Byte & Bash) to take the brunt of false accusations when they screw it up. They are not experienced, well-informed people with a background in cheat development, detection & management. They hope that the wider community will simply swallow what they say & that’ll be that. Sadly, most people seem happy to accept that but I’m hopeful my case can highlight the broken system of ETF2L."

Links for the stuff related.
Quad Case: https://pastebin.com/bjUuwn0c
http://etf2l.org/matches/75290/ - Match where the opponent used two pyros. (Demos are on there for anybody to watch)
http://etf2l.org/forum/user/91024/
https://steamcommunity.com/id/ryryboy/
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oh boy

oh boy
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OffsideI have been interested/watching TF2 competitively since roughly i43 which I attended in person to spectate. I was young at the time & it looked like a lot of fun. The same applies to i46. Given that, I never got into a team nor decided to devote myself to play scrims/mixes. I didn’t have a very good PC (have an old Dropbox w/ some very, very old screenshots on it) & was limited by what I could/could not play. Some may know me from a while back from the alias ‘PixL’ as I used to frequently join a competitive cp_orange/dm servers with ETF2L members on it. Upon hearing about HOI & others potentially giving the original FMC a go, I decided I’d try it with some friends. We didn’t do particularly well & the meta was horrific (Vaccinator). I didn’t find it particularly fun & so didn’t continue taking an interest. One of these people decided to give competitive TF2 another go in S32 & I hesitantly tried lending a hand. FMC2 was announced & I felt if I was ever going to play, I might as well do it now. It’d also be a good way to get into contact with Mid+ players so I could theoretically skip playing in Open/Low for a season if I did well. Funnily enough, I was doing too well & we’ve got the situation I’m in now, haha.

this paragraph is necessary

[quote=Offside]
I have been interested/watching TF2 competitively since roughly i43 which I attended in person to spectate. I was young at the time & it looked like a lot of fun. The same applies to i46. Given that, I never got into a team nor decided to devote myself to play scrims/mixes. I didn’t have a very good PC (have an old Dropbox w/ some very, very old screenshots on it) & was limited by what I could/could not play. Some may know me from a while back from the alias ‘PixL’ as I used to frequently join a competitive cp_orange/dm servers with ETF2L members on it. Upon hearing about HOI & others potentially giving the original FMC a go, I decided I’d try it with some friends. We didn’t do particularly well & the meta was horrific (Vaccinator). I didn’t find it particularly fun & so didn’t continue taking an interest. One of these people decided to give competitive TF2 another go in S32 & I hesitantly tried lending a hand. FMC2 was announced & I felt if I was ever going to play, I might as well do it now. It’d also be a good way to get into contact with Mid+ players so I could theoretically skip playing in Open/Low for a season if I did well. Funnily enough, I was doing too well & we’ve got the situation I’m in now, haha.[/quote]
this paragraph is necessary
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#4
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This is just quoting from what ry put, Why both me

Ward3dthis paragraph is necessary
This is just quoting from what ry put, Why both me[quote=Ward3d]this paragraph is necessary[/quote]
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#5
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Meh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.

So not arsed.

Meh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.

So not arsed.
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StylaxMeh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.
So not arsed.

Sandbag because he's actually better than you while you was mainclassing ecks dee

[quote=Stylax]Meh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.
So not arsed.
[/quote]

Sandbag because he's actually better than you while you was mainclassing ecks dee
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#7
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I didn't play, I mentor . Ecks dee...

Presumably being a bellend doesn't help your collective case BTW.

I didn't play, I mentor . Ecks dee...

Presumably being a bellend doesn't help your collective case BTW.
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#8
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seems very hung up on the way the ac team was ran 9 years ago

seems very hung up on the way the ac team was ran 9 years ago
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#9
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Not gonna comment on the rest, but quad was not banned due to an "algorithm" and people DID review his demos.. Obviously it was dumb (as evidenced in the gryzor article explaining it) but it's not comparable. The admins are 100% different to back in the day, and at least back then there wasn't a bot that automatically told them someone was cheating that they acted on immediately. Not one person is the same as back then.. so address the new people if you like but you can't compare the two teams as if they are a part of the same hivemind that has been oppressing poor kids for this long lol

Not gonna comment on the rest, but quad was not banned due to an "algorithm" and people DID review his demos.. Obviously it was dumb (as evidenced in the gryzor article explaining it) but it's not comparable. The admins are 100% different to back in the day, and at least back then there wasn't a bot that automatically told them someone was cheating that they acted on immediately. Not one person is the same as back then.. so address the new people if you like but you can't compare the two teams as if they are a part of the same hivemind that has been oppressing poor kids for this long lol
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OffsideStylaxMeh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.
So not arsed.

Sandbag because he's actually better than you while you was mainclassing ecks dee

Yep aaaand I'm out

[quote=Offside][quote=Stylax]Meh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.
So not arsed.
[/quote]

Sandbag because he's actually better than you while you was mainclassing ecks dee[/quote]

Yep aaaand I'm out
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StylaxMeh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.

So not arsed.

Your argument that he was "sandbagging", and therefore should be banned is irrelevant. In fact, it doesn't even correlate with the rules of the league. He rightfully qualified for The Fresh Meat Challenge, whether you like it or not. Rules are rules, and that's all that matters. Ry was banned unjustly for the wrong reasons - full stop.

[quote=Stylax]Meh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.

So not arsed.[/quote]

Your argument that he was "sandbagging", and therefore should be banned is irrelevant. In fact, it doesn't even correlate with the rules of the league. He rightfully qualified for The Fresh Meat Challenge, whether you like it or not. Rules are rules, and that's all that matters. Ry was banned unjustly for the wrong reasons - full stop.
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#12
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good on you to defend your mate but you should’ve let him post this if it really mattered that much to him.

good on you to defend your mate but you should’ve let him post this if it really mattered that much to him.
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lexkicks01StylaxMeh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.

So not arsed.

Your argument that he was "sandbagging", and therefore should be banned is irrelevant. In fact, it doesn't even correlate with the rules of the league. He rightfully qualified for The Fresh Meat Challenge, whether you like it or not. Rules are rules, and that's all that matters. Ry was banned unjustly for the wrong reasons - full stop.

That's not my argument.

I said that makes me not arsed.

[quote=lexkicks01][quote=Stylax]Meh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.

So not arsed.[/quote]

Your argument that he was "sandbagging", and therefore should be banned is irrelevant. In fact, it doesn't even correlate with the rules of the league. He rightfully qualified for The Fresh Meat Challenge, whether you like it or not. Rules are rules, and that's all that matters. Ry was banned unjustly for the wrong reasons - full stop.[/quote]

That's not my argument.

I said that makes me not arsed.
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lexkicks01StylaxMeh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.

So not arsed.

Your argument that he was "sandbagging", and therefore should be banned is irrelevant. In fact, it doesn't even correlate with the rules of the league. He rightfully qualified for The Fresh Meat Challenge, whether you like it or not. Rules are rules, and that's all that matters. Ry was banned unjustly for the wrong reasons - full stop.

Agreed. I don't know about the cheating part, but if he's allowed to play you can't just call it sandbagging. He's just following the rules. Almost every player from the team that got first place in the previous Fresh Meat challenge, or even the teams that played the finals of Archimedes Cup played div1/2 afterwards.

[quote=lexkicks01][quote=Stylax]Meh he either cheats or was trying to sandbag against the fresh meat team I buddy for.

So not arsed.[/quote]

Your argument that he was "sandbagging", and therefore should be banned is irrelevant. In fact, it doesn't even correlate with the rules of the league. He rightfully qualified for The Fresh Meat Challenge, whether you like it or not. Rules are rules, and that's all that matters. Ry was banned unjustly for the wrong reasons - full stop.[/quote]

Agreed. I don't know about the cheating part, but if he's allowed to play you can't just call it sandbagging. He's just following the rules. Almost every player from the [url=http://etf2l.org/teams/28413/]team[/url] that got first place in the previous Fresh Meat challenge, or even the [url=http://etf2l.org/matches/56346/]teams[/url] that played the finals of Archimedes Cup played div1/2 afterwards.
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Wtzgood on you to defend your mate but you should’ve let him post this if it really mattered that much to him.

I don't even know this guy lmao

lexkicks01Your argument that he was "sandbagging", and therefore should be banned is irrelevant. In fact, it doesn't even correlate with the rules of the league. He rightfully qualified for The Fresh Meat Challenge, whether you like it or not. Rules are rules, and that's all that matters. Ry was banned unjustly for the wrong reasons - full stop.
[quote=Wtz]good on you to defend your mate but you should’ve let him post this if it really mattered that much to him.[/quote]

I don't even know this guy lmao
[quote=lexkicks01]Your argument that he was "sandbagging", and therefore should be banned is irrelevant. In fact, it doesn't even correlate with the rules of the league. He rightfully qualified for The Fresh Meat Challenge, whether you like it or not. Rules are rules, and that's all that matters. Ry was banned unjustly for the wrong reasons - full stop.[/quote]
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ry? you’re the buddy in his team? so you either mentor him or play with him?
e: http://etf2l.org/teams/30158/?

ry? you’re the buddy in his team? so you either mentor him or play with him?
e: http://etf2l.org/teams/30158/?
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What this thread needs at this time is the same french circlejerk that defended baud/azn/broda/night terrror to spice it up a bit. ever since those people stopped playing its never been the same in the etf2l ban posts.

Minishoes: TC said:

Fri 19 Dec 2014, 17:59

They dont want to show how they found it so ppl will not find how this highly qualified AC dick suckers found what valve cant find woaw i’m impressed
gg 10/10

What this thread needs at this time is the same french circlejerk that defended baud/azn/broda/night terrror to spice it up a bit. ever since those people stopped playing its never been the same in the etf2l ban posts.

Minishoes: TC said:

Fri 19 Dec 2014, 17:59

They dont want to show how they found it so ppl will not find how this highly qualified AC dick suckers found what valve cant find woaw i’m impressed
gg 10/10
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do people really have nothing better to do than type esseys about being banned on a videogame league they dont earn money from

do people really have nothing better to do than type esseys about being banned on a videogame league they dont earn money from
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Polariumdo people really have nothing better to do than type esseys about being banned on a videogame league they dont earn money from

i mean winning Fresh Meat is atleast 20 bucks per person so if that isnt incentive to cheat i dont know what is

[quote=Polarium]do people really have nothing better to do than type esseys about being banned on a videogame league they dont earn money from[/quote]
i mean winning Fresh Meat is atleast 20 bucks per person so if that isnt incentive to cheat i dont know what is
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#20
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just get an alt lmao

just get an alt lmao
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#21
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rofl owned kiddo

rofl owned kiddo
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#22
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just wait 2020 4Head

just wait 2020 4Head
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"I know this for a fact because UGC requested the evidence to mirror my ban—were shown the two demos—but realised ETF2L were making a mistake & stopped short of doing so. UGC themselves are NOT banning me because they themselves do not trust the ETF2L AC team; they are misinformed."

The UGC Anti-Cheat team still hasn't finished fully reviewing the demos you are talking about.
We go by the policy of innocent until proven guilty; we are not doubting the capabilities of the ETF2L Anti-Cheat team but we want to make sure that the person is in fact breaking the rules, in this case by aimbotting, before banning him/her.

"I know this for a fact because UGC requested the evidence to mirror my ban—were shown the two demos—but realised ETF2L were making a mistake & stopped short of doing so. UGC themselves are NOT banning me because they themselves do not trust the ETF2L AC team; they are misinformed."

The UGC Anti-Cheat team still hasn't finished fully reviewing the demos you are talking about.
We go by the policy of innocent until proven guilty; we are not doubting the capabilities of the ETF2L Anti-Cheat team but we want to make sure that the person is in fact breaking the rules, in this case by aimbotting, before banning him/her.
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wtzWtz
good on you to defend your mate but you should’ve let him post this if it really mattered that much to him.

I thought you ment the other guys, But yes to some degree

[quote=wtz]Wtz
good on you to defend your mate but you should’ve let him post this if it really mattered that much to him.[/quote]

I thought you ment the other guys, But yes to some degree
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#25
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shinso"I know this for a fact because UGC requested the evidence to mirror my ban—were shown the two demos—but realised ETF2L were making a mistake & stopped short of doing so. UGC themselves are NOT banning me because they themselves do not trust the ETF2L AC team; they are misinformed."

The UGC Anti-Cheat team still hasn't finished fully reviewing the demos you are talking about.
We go by the policy of innocent until proven guilty; we are not doubting the capabilities of the ETF2L Anti-Cheat team but we want to make sure that the person is in fact breaking the rules, in this case by aimbotting, before banning him/her.

lmao caught talking shit who would have expected that

[quote=shinso]"I know this for a fact because UGC requested the evidence to mirror my ban—were shown the two demos—but realised ETF2L were making a mistake & stopped short of doing so. UGC themselves are NOT banning me because they themselves do not trust the ETF2L AC team; they are misinformed."

The UGC Anti-Cheat team still hasn't finished fully reviewing the demos you are talking about.
We go by the policy of innocent until proven guilty; we are not doubting the capabilities of the ETF2L Anti-Cheat team but we want to make sure that the person is in fact breaking the rules, in this case by aimbotting, before banning him/her.[/quote]
lmao caught talking shit who would have expected that
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#26
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It doesn't help your case calling every admin in the league completely incompetent and moronic, even if you are not aimbotting. You've been banned for like, what, a day so far? Did you even bother contacting any admin before posting four comments on your Steam profile and having your buddy make a TFTV thread about it?

Also not sure how demos a player could have hand picked prove anything in terms of not being a cheater, let alone linking a ban post from eight years ago as a reference to the current state of AC staff.

It doesn't help your case calling every admin in the league completely incompetent and moronic, even if you are not aimbotting. You've been banned for like, what, a day so far? Did you even bother contacting any admin before posting four comments on your Steam profile and having your buddy make a TFTV thread about it?

Also not sure how demos a player could have hand picked prove anything in terms of not being a cheater, let alone linking a ban post from eight years ago as a reference to the current state of AC staff.
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#27
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DuMmTmPolariumdo people really have nothing better to do than type esseys about being banned on a videogame league they dont earn money fromi mean winning Fresh Meat is atleast 20 bucks per person so if that isnt incentive to cheat i dont know what is

i'd do it for a tenner

[quote=DuMmTm][quote=Polarium]do people really have nothing better to do than type esseys about being banned on a videogame league they dont earn money from[/quote]
i mean winning Fresh Meat is atleast 20 bucks per person so if that isnt incentive to cheat i dont know what is[/quote]
i'd do it for a tenner
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konrlmao caught talking shit who would have expected that

koreanBBQToday at 11:49
I just talked with Shinso. He says the admins are indeed making a mistake wtf

[quote=konr]lmao caught talking shit who would have expected that[/quote]


koreanBBQToday at 11:49
I just talked with Shinso. He says the admins are indeed making a mistake wtf
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#29
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Offsidekonrlmao caught talking shit who would have expected that
koreanBBQToday at 11:49
I just talked with Shinso. He says the admins are indeed making a mistake wtf

I simply stated my personal opinion on the case. I'm not an expert on the matter nor do I have the tools needed to be able to review the demos. I'm a division admin, but as one of my friends asked me I didn't see a reason why not to give my opinion. Here is exactly what I said if anyone cares:

koreanBBQToday at 11:52 AM
Broooooo
Ryry id banned
Is banned*
shinsoToday at 12:08 PM
I think the Admins made a mistake
But yeah he is
The ugc anti cheat is also gonna review the demo and make an assessment
If the ugc ac team also says he's hacking then
I don't see a reason why to not trust them
koreanBBQToday at 12:23 PM
What was the mistake?
shinsoToday at 12:42 PM
I don't think he's cheating

[quote=Offside][quote=konr]lmao caught talking shit who would have expected that[/quote]


koreanBBQToday at 11:49
I just talked with Shinso. He says the admins are indeed making a mistake wtf[/quote]
I simply stated my personal opinion on the case. I'm not an expert on the matter nor do I have the tools needed to be able to review the demos. I'm a division admin, but as one of my friends asked me I didn't see a reason why not to give my opinion. Here is exactly what I said if anyone cares:

koreanBBQToday at 11:52 AM
Broooooo
Ryry id banned
Is banned*
shinsoToday at 12:08 PM
I think the Admins made a mistake
But yeah he is
The ugc anti cheat is also gonna review the demo and make an assessment
If the ugc ac team also says he's hacking then
I don't see a reason why to not trust them
koreanBBQToday at 12:23 PM
What was the mistake?
shinsoToday at 12:42 PM
I don't think he's cheating
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wow i cannot wait for this open player to come to i65 and show his unparalleled skill to us. oh, how foolish etf2l will look!

wow i cannot wait for this open player to come to i65 and show his unparalleled skill to us. oh, how foolish etf2l will look!
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