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thoughts on cups?
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#1
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with lan's being indefinitely postponed what's everyone's opinion on having some online cups? like the eu essentials cup coming up or those old faceit cups.

I'm kind of fed up with committing to a several month long season and scrimming 5 nights a week; it's not good on the mental you know. But I still think it's fun to play in a competitive environment, and maybe something like this would entice some older players to dip their toes every once in a while.

with lan's being indefinitely postponed what's everyone's opinion on having some online cups? like the eu essentials cup coming up or those old faceit cups.

I'm kind of fed up with committing to a several month long season and scrimming 5 nights a week; it's not good on the mental you know. But I still think it's fun to play in a competitive environment, and maybe something like this would entice some older players to dip their toes every once in a while.
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#2
8 Frags +

Definitely agree with the commitment part. Lots of people who aren't playing this season still pug and shit more casually and can put together 5 other ppl to play in cups. You can also have a small buy in (maybe a key/ $2.50 idk) to give an incentive/prize pool

Definitely agree with the commitment part. Lots of people who aren't playing this season still pug and shit more casually and can put together 5 other ppl to play in cups. You can also have a small buy in (maybe a key/ $2.50 idk) to give an incentive/prize pool
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#3
-28 Frags +

I’ve been trying to make these and no one has participated in them even though I’ve spent hard earned money for prize pools within the tournaments. I’m upset now.

I’ve been trying to make these and no one has participated in them even though I’ve spent hard earned money for prize pools within the tournaments. I’m upset now.
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#4
18 Frags +

the essentials cup is just a replacement for lan essentially, better late than never i suppose. cups are nice every now and then but if the essentials monthlies taught us anything they can be quite the workload if back to back for players and staff.

cre-8I’ve been trying to make these and no one has participated in them even though I’ve spent hard earned money for prize pools within the tournaments. I’m upset now.

dont waste money on this game.

the essentials cup is just a replacement for lan essentially, better late than never i suppose. cups are nice every now and then but if the essentials monthlies taught us anything they can be quite the workload if back to back for players and staff.
[quote=cre-8]I’ve been trying to make these and no one has participated in them even though I’ve spent hard earned money for prize pools within the tournaments. I’m upset now.[/quote]
dont waste money on this game.
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#5
-8 Frags +

cups? oh yeah i put water in them lol

cups? oh yeah i put water in them lol
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#6
Essentials.TF
35 Frags +

I promise the upcoming cup we're planning will be an attractive, grand affair. We've got some further news coming out before the end of the month.

I promise the upcoming cup we're planning will be an attractive, grand affair. We've got some further news coming out before the end of the month.
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#7
6 Frags +

yea id def play in one day/weekend cups with lower commitment, sounds like a good way to keep the community engaged w/o lans

yea id def play in one day/weekend cups with lower commitment, sounds like a good way to keep the community engaged w/o lans
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#8
1 Frags +

very epic. wouldn't mind have one every few months or so

very epic. wouldn't mind have one every few months or so
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#9
3 Frags +

Cups are great. One thing I think we could learn from the Yomps tournament is that it should be spread out over 3 nights if the bracket runs for 6 hours per day.

Cups are great. One thing I think we could learn from the Yomps tournament is that it should be spread out over 3 nights if the bracket runs for 6 hours per day.
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#10
5 Frags +

if cups are during the week please dont make them start before regular scrim times, i’ve had to miss a handful of cups because i work until 9 est

if cups are during the week please dont make them start before regular scrim times, i’ve had to miss a handful of cups because i work until 9 est
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#11
22 Frags +

not a fan of playing 4+ hours a day for a cup but maybe like a friday + weekend cup with 2 or 3 game each day would be cool

not a fan of playing 4+ hours a day for a cup but maybe like a friday + weekend cup with 2 or 3 game each day would be cool
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#12
-1 Frags +

f cup all the way

f cup all the way
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#13
32 Frags +

the iseries replacement cup should be called icup

the iseries replacement cup should be called icup
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#14
2 Frags +

the more opportunities for people to play comp the better

the more opportunities for people to play comp the better
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#15
2 Frags +
Nathannot a fan of playing 4+ hours a day for a cup but maybe like a friday + weekend cup with 2 or 3 game each day would be cool

could even spread it out over one week, so long as that week is like once a month or something.

[quote=Nathan]not a fan of playing 4+ hours a day for a cup but maybe like a friday + weekend cup with 2 or 3 game each day would be cool[/quote]
could even spread it out over one week, so long as that week is like once a month or something.
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#16
2 Frags +

I love cups. I enjoy competing more than I enjoy playing games, and I think cups are of a higher competition level than a league (barring playoff matches).

The problem is signup consistency. It's difficult to make a cup for one month that has 32 signups and another cup for another month that has 8 signups. Noone of a lower skill will signup for the smaller one, since they likely will face one good team and lose and be knocked out.

Only two solutions I can think of are having more skill separated cups, like when say prem level teams are not allowed to enter (nearly impossible with a small number of signups), or more people signup to any cup. Both of these are so hard to do with such a small number of people though. You really need at least 30 teams for a successful cup to happen.

It really is just logistics that makes it so hard to run cups more often, which is a shame.

I love cups. I enjoy competing more than I enjoy playing games, and I think cups are of a higher competition level than a league (barring playoff matches).

The problem is signup consistency. It's difficult to make a cup for one month that has 32 signups and another cup for another month that has 8 signups. Noone of a lower skill will signup for the smaller one, since they likely will face one good team and lose and be knocked out.

Only two solutions I can think of are having more skill separated cups, like when say prem level teams are not allowed to enter (nearly impossible with a small number of signups), or more people signup to any cup. Both of these are so hard to do with such a small number of people though. You really need at least 30 teams for a successful cup to happen.

It really is just logistics that makes it so hard to run cups more often, which is a shame.
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#17
0 Frags +

sounds like a cool idea

sounds like a cool idea
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#18
0 Frags +

yes please, it would be cool to do something like the yomps tourney where an entry fee goes to someone in need.

yes please, it would be cool to do something like the yomps tourney where an entry fee goes to someone in need.
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#19
6 Frags +

How often do you want them to happen?
I don't know if it's been the same in NA but in EU whenever there's an effort to have semi regular cups they always end with having a lack of signups after the 4th or so(eg. essentials,esl). etf2l cups rarely have prem or even d1 teams participate, just a bunch of mid/high mixes playing vs each other in the "top" group (i don't think this was the case before 2016, i remember a less limited whitelist cup getting casted which at least had prem mixes play it).

I personally really enjoy cups i just don't see anything other than having one every once in a while working, big fan of playing matches back2back. (lockdown throwdown has been great so far, shame u cant watch the vods LOL :)))

[i wrote this before i read what doughy said me stupid :D ]

How often do you want them to happen?
I don't know if it's been the same in NA but in EU whenever there's an effort to have semi regular cups they always end with having a lack of signups after the 4th or so(eg. essentials,esl). etf2l cups rarely have prem or even d1 teams participate, just a bunch of mid/high mixes playing vs each other in the "top" group (i don't think this was the case before 2016, i remember a less limited whitelist cup getting casted which at least had prem mixes play it).

I personally really enjoy cups i just don't see anything other than having one every once in a while working, big fan of playing matches back2back. (lockdown throwdown has been great so far, shame u cant watch the vods LOL :)))

[i wrote this before i read what doughy said me stupid :D ]
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