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MGE: Shotty or Gboats
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#1
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So there are a lot of different views on this, I'm wanting to see peoples reasoning for why to run each one/why not to run each.

Personally I run shotty, as you can then train rockets and hitscan aim, but im interested to see different views.

P.S.

elo goblins opinions dont count, I know who you are LOLLL

So there are a lot of different views on this, I'm wanting to see peoples reasoning for why to run each one/why not to run each.

Personally I run shotty, as you can then train rockets and hitscan aim, but im interested to see different views.

P.S.

elo goblins opinions dont count, I know who you are LOLLL
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#2
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i like to jump around with my friends!!!!!!

i like to jump around with my friends!!!!!!
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#3
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I prefer shotty because extreme rocket surfing is less inevitable. With gunboats you always run out of rockets and are forced to dance around and surf a ton. But ofc shotty can also lead to shotgun denying and other annoying behaviors, but if theres good sportsmanship usually people don't do that.

I prefer shotty because extreme rocket surfing is less inevitable. With gunboats you always run out of rockets and are forced to dance around and surf a ton. But ofc shotty can also lead to shotgun denying and other annoying behaviors, but if theres good sportsmanship usually people don't do that.
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#4
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shotgun if you want to win, gunboats if you want to improve

shotgun if you want to win, gunboats if you want to improve
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#5
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Best thing you can do is to just ask the person you're gonna play if they want to play with shotgun or gunboats.

Personally I prefer gunboats since thats what I use in matches anyways and I also find shotgun mge annoying most of the time.

Best thing you can do is to just ask the person you're gonna play if they want to play with shotgun or gunboats.

Personally I prefer gunboats since thats what I use in matches anyways and I also find shotgun mge annoying most of the time.
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#6
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i run shotgun because its more fun but gunboats will actually make you better if you dont play like a bitch

i run shotgun because its more fun but gunboats will actually make you better if you dont play like a bitch
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#7
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I run shotgun but never use it. It helps me not play like a bitch and counter jump all the time and actually work on my rocket aim.

I run shotgun but never use it. It helps me not play like a bitch and counter jump all the time and actually work on my rocket aim.
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#8
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Shotgun Vs. shotgun is definitely more fun, but I guess that'd be subjective. But running gunboats almost always leads to a surfing/counterjumping contest, which I personally find boring and stale

It also trains both your hitscan aim and rocket aim, so I really don't see why not.

P.S. don't play like a fucking goblin when using a shotgun, that shit's cringe

Shotgun Vs. shotgun is definitely more fun, but I guess that'd be subjective. But running gunboats almost always leads to a surfing/counterjumping contest, which I personally find boring and stale

It also trains both your hitscan aim and rocket aim, so I really don't see why not.

P.S. don't play like a fucking goblin when using a shotgun, that shit's cringe
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#9
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shotgun is the only way

shotgun is the only way
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#10
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shotgun for public mge

gunboats for friends

shotgun for public mge

gunboats for friends
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#11
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people complaining about shotgun in mge are always the ones who counterjump 15 times

people complaining about shotgun in mge are always the ones who counterjump 15 times
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#12
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more jumping is more fun so long as you're not playing against a dickhead

more jumping is more fun so long as you're not playing against a dickhead
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#13
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Its a regional difference from my understanding, it seems for NA ppl shotgun is the norm whereas in EU 95% uses gb. Personally i prefer gb on most arenas (not ammomod) because it forces u to go for good rockets with no sg to rely on

Its a regional difference from my understanding, it seems for NA ppl shotgun is the norm whereas in EU 95% uses gb. Personally i prefer gb on most arenas (not ammomod) because it forces u to go for good rockets with no sg to rely on
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#14
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people say use gunboats if you wanna improve, but really if that's your focus you should just play everyone without shotgun and gunboats. then you just go and play with boats after in actual scrims/matches.

people say use gunboats if you wanna improve, but really if that's your focus you should just play everyone without shotgun and gunboats. then you just go and play with boats after in actual scrims/matches.
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#15
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shotgun is fun

always use gunboats vs scouts though

shotgun is fun

always use gunboats vs scouts though
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#16
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I've used gunboats only in mge for the past 3 years because my shotgun aim is already pretty decent and I want to get better at hitting rockets

I've used gunboats only in mge for the past 3 years because my shotgun aim is already pretty decent and I want to get better at hitting rockets
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#17
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Personally I saw a massive improvement in my rockets when I started using only gunboats in mge. Lots of the downsides people are listing are actually good reasons to use gunboats in the first place; you'll learn to "counter jump" away from people shooting down at you and not having a secondary to rely on will teach you the value of your rockets and waiting for people to land before shooting.

Personally I saw a massive improvement in my rockets when I started using only gunboats in mge. Lots of the downsides people are listing are actually good reasons to use gunboats in the first place; you'll learn to "counter jump" away from people shooting down at you and not having a secondary to rely on will teach you the value of your rockets and waiting for people to land before shooting.
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#18
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gunboats vs scout and demo, vs soldier it depends on map and who im playing (spire and ammomod are usually shotgun, if im playing with friends we usually do gunboats, etc.)

gunboats vs scout and demo, vs soldier it depends on map and who im playing (spire and ammomod are usually shotgun, if im playing with friends we usually do gunboats, etc.)
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#19
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You should be comfortable with both. I've always used shotgun and went tank mode against everybody which everyone hates, but I can easily switch to the mega counter-jumping gunboats style if I felt like it, which, again, everyone hates. Don't fear anyone and you'll grow to be better than them.

You should be comfortable with both. I've always used shotgun and went tank mode against everybody which everyone hates, but I can easily switch to the mega counter-jumping gunboats style if I felt like it, which, again, everyone hates. Don't fear anyone and you'll grow to be better than them.
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#20
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gb if you want to get better. 99% of soldiers use gb in game, why practice with a shotgun. if you want better shotgun, play scout.

gb if you want to get better. 99% of soldiers use gb in game, why practice with a shotgun. if you want better shotgun, play scout.
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#21
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practice how you play

practice how you play
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#22
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it depends on the matchup and the map sometimes the shotgun is necessary for pacing and shouldnt hinder your ability to practice rockets considering the fight should be over after the first 4 rockets - depending on how you play

the reloaded ones dont count as practice and typically are these stupid desperation equaliser type shit anyway. lots of people do that shit and i cant see the point - it would be much better to have some sort of hitscan aim rather that jumping around with escape plan like a monkey

i think people had better aim before the gunboats thing and for a map like ammomod or maybe even badlands mid (to a lesser extent tho) it just encourages boring play, or vs scouts it makes the scout play just around viaduct rock only or some shit considering most scouts will just wanna cheese you, but gunboats are probably good for gully mid gran mid and spire cause its all leapfroggy and u can win with one rocket

this shit doesnt really matter though the most important thing about practicing and havig a good game is just that you are both humans

it depends on the matchup and the map sometimes the shotgun is necessary for pacing and shouldnt hinder your ability to practice rockets considering the fight should be over after the first 4 rockets - depending on how you play

the reloaded ones dont count as practice and typically are these stupid desperation equaliser type shit anyway. lots of people do that shit and i cant see the point - it would be much better to have some sort of hitscan aim rather that jumping around with escape plan like a monkey

i think people had better aim before the gunboats thing and for a map like ammomod or maybe even badlands mid (to a lesser extent tho) it just encourages boring play, or vs scouts it makes the scout play just around viaduct rock only or some shit considering most scouts will just wanna cheese you, but gunboats are probably good for gully mid gran mid and spire cause its all leapfroggy and u can win with one rocket

this shit doesnt really matter though the most important thing about practicing and havig a good game is just that you are both humans
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#23
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funhaver1998i think people had better aim before the gunboats thing

I am quite confident that soldier mains from 2009 did not have better hitscan aim than the average soldier in 2020

mge literally didn't exist back then

[quote=funhaver1998]
i think people had better aim before the gunboats thing [/quote]

I am quite confident that soldier mains from 2009 did not have better hitscan aim than the average soldier in 2020

mge literally didn't exist back then
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#24
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not then im talking i49 times and they did

im obviously not talking about when people werent airstraifing.....

theres nothing today comparable to timus

not then im talking i49 times and they did


im obviously not talking about when people werent airstraifing.....

theres nothing today comparable to timus
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#25
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I know how good platinum, tlr, tek, mike, etc were with the shotgun

it still doesn't matter, guys like laz, jay, kaptain would still wreck kids with the shotgun now, they just believe gunboats are usually better (and they're right)

hell there are WAY more invite soldiers who could also play scout in invite than there were back then

I know how good platinum, tlr, tek, mike, etc were with the shotgun

it still doesn't matter, guys like laz, jay, kaptain would still wreck kids with the shotgun now, they just believe gunboats are usually better (and they're right)

hell there are WAY more invite soldiers who could also play scout in invite than there were back then
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#26
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i agree with sil that using gunboats is important for understanding the importance of each rocket rather than blasting off to switch to shotgun faster, but i think shotgun is still useful in getting more precise aim, since rockets can be pretty lenient with splash. healthy mix of both maybe :-)

i agree with sil that using gunboats is important for understanding the importance of each rocket rather than blasting off to switch to shotgun faster, but i think shotgun is still useful in getting more precise aim, since rockets can be pretty lenient with splash. healthy mix of both maybe :-)
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#27
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no shotgun so you can't shotgun stall, and you don't use shotgun in 6s anyway so it's silly to practise with it imo.also gb forces you to make your rockets count, you basically gotta hit 3 crisp rockets, with shotgun you can just hit 4 trash rockets and then finish off with shotgun really easily

no shotgun so you can't shotgun stall, and you don't use shotgun in 6s anyway so it's silly to practise with it imo.also gb forces you to make your rockets count, you basically gotta hit 3 crisp rockets, with shotgun you can just hit 4 trash rockets and then finish off with shotgun really easily
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#28
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depends on the map for example : ammomod with gunboats is idiotic and spire with shotgun is idiotic
like ill always run gunboats on maps like spire, gully, gran mid etc, but always run shotgun on maps like ammomod or blands mid etc... but in the end it all comes down to preference and what your opponent wants.

depends on the map for example : ammomod with gunboats is idiotic and spire with shotgun is idiotic
like ill always run gunboats on maps like spire, gully, gran mid etc, but always run shotgun on maps like ammomod or blands mid etc... but in the end it all comes down to preference and what your opponent wants.
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#29
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yeah mustard youre talking about 6s and im talking about who had better dm in mge is the difference and i agree with what youre saying in that regard but people were better in mge back then

kaptain might have some of the best rockets in 6s but when he plays mge its just like any soldier because theyre entirely different things

i guess that revolves around what it is EDK is trying to improve at tho cause MGE is not even going to help his 6s dm unless his 6s dm is very bad. all the players u mentioned arent mge players apart from laz i think

regardless of what weapons you choose soldier v soldier mge is entirely useless outside of soldier v soldier mge

yeah mustard youre talking about 6s and im talking about who had better dm in mge is the difference and i agree with what youre saying in that regard but people were better in mge back then

kaptain might have some of the best rockets in 6s but when he plays mge its just like any soldier because theyre entirely different things

i guess that revolves around what it is EDK is trying to improve at tho cause MGE is not even going to help his 6s dm unless his 6s dm is very bad. all the players u mentioned arent mge players apart from laz i think

regardless of what weapons you choose soldier v soldier mge is entirely useless outside of soldier v soldier mge
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#30
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it never even occurred to me that you were talking about mge, but that still isn't remotely true lol

none of the old school shotty soldiers would stand a chance against delpo or rekuso or whoever in mge, skill level is always improving

it never even occurred to me that you were talking about mge, but that still isn't remotely true lol

none of the old school shotty soldiers would stand a chance against delpo or rekuso or whoever in mge, skill level is always improving
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