funny how you didn't say the same thing about the NZ shooting even though that guy literally posted pictures of the guns he used covered in racist iconography two days in advance

I wonder what made him so elusive and this attack so preventable??

phr's cs team just 16-0'd fnatic lol

so were the millions of people complicit in the holocaust (including the thousands who were literally carrying it out) literally another species of human being? were they all just pure sociopaths? or do years of dehumanization and racist ideology eventually create people like this?

or put a different way: it is a statistical fact that right wing terrorism has been massively on the rise in the last few years. if this violence is just senseless and impossible to contextualize, then we must conclude that each and every one of these acts of right wing terrorism was committed by someone who, if not for the present moment enabling them to pick up abhorrent racial views on top of everything else, would've still killed a bunch of people anyways, just for completely inscrutable and pure nihilistic reasons. I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that.

tragedies will always happen, but if you're gonna tell me that the way muslims are depicted in the media and pop culture, let alone in these great replacement/death of europe screeds on the internet, has absolutely 0 effect on how likely a shooting like this is, I just can't co-sign that view.

as an aside, this might be the single most depraved, tone-deaf response I've ever seen a politician give after a mass shooting (including trump):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1r0KX3X0AAWviI.jpg

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg

tfw tri speaks lies to u :<

I was gonna write a big-ass post about ben shapiro but I think I've already wrote too many nerd essays for now so let me redirect y'all to the definitive article about him which I was gonna post but CaptainZidgel already did:
https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/12/the-cool-kids-philosopher

if there were literally no context regarding someone like pewdiepie other than him saying the n word once, of course it would be ridiculous to bring him up. unfortunately that's not the case at all, because as previous people in this thread have said, he has played a part in tacitly making extremely far right "thinkers" socially acceptable, and inadvertently helped spread this sort of stuff.

compare an abridged list of pewdiepie's political twitter follows:
https://preview.redd.it/binovkw6a8m21.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=1821fbb9d7041f69d17b9c12f21630307d51ba86

with the favorite twitter accounts of the quebec shooter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbjnwcdV4AAL6aB.jpg

notice also how, for people like this guy, there doesn't seem to be much of a distinction between open white nationalists like richard spencer and people who would vociferously deny that label like ben shapiro, paul joseph watson, and stefan molyneux. this is the point: VERY few people actually read the daily stormer, or follow richard spencer, or post on /pol/. but then, the stuff they obsessively post about black crime or muslim rape gangs or whatever gets aggregated by breitbart or the daily caller, or discussed on fox news, or brought up by these "alt-light" figures, and it reaches a wider audience. most of them will never act on their beliefs beyond just voting republican and memeing online, but I really do believe it serves as a gateway drug to the harder shit like richard spencer. do you think all those /pol/ nazis just woke up one day and decided jews in the media were making interracial marriage look socially acceptable to prepare for white genocide? or did they gradually get groomed by the right wing online sphere until they were susceptible to buy into shit like that?

also as an aside regarding the politicization of the whole "don't give the shooter attention/say his name/read his writing" argument, note which types of people it applies to

https://preview.redd.it/rzb32g3e3am21.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6c16ed04a846fc62d8f510a4b8f082d1e06ba75a

https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/988764063659384833

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/25712847277?lang=en
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/695622179874967552?lang=en

people like richard spencer fucking love israel because they see it as a template for what needs to be done in america and europe (ie an ethnostate), and it's a place they can fantasize about sending all american jews to, something which my favorite political cartoonist eli valley has satirized a lot, for example:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56171597e4b07d425091e0a3/t/585229fe37c58186144f4947/1481779721237/?format=2500w

as for this notion that the "moderate right" and the alt-right differ greatly on capitalism, I won't go too much into it now but I think it's a distinction without a difference; we are reaching certain points of no return when it comes to climate change, global economic inequality etc., and the choice will ultimately be either building a more equitable society or building more walls and shutting economic and climate refugees out. you can guess which side both the "moderate right" and the alt-right come down on.

what internet edgelords like yourself fail to realize is that the alt-right deliberately blurs the line between joking and really meaning it, and this space of memes and satire is what allowed more extreme forms of white nationalist ideology to crop back up (well that and the more general nihilism that our late capitalist hellscape has produced which leads to people livestreaming shootings while talking about meme magic)

this phenomenon is not new, and in fact the ACTUAL nazis exploited this sort of ambiguity. sartre even wrote about the 'bad faith' arguments of anti-semites thusly:

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play.

They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

compare that to the way /pol/ users talk about the need to "hide their power level"

and to an actual quote from the NZ shooter's manifesto:

"Whilst we may use edgy humour and memes in the vanguard stage, and to attract a young audience, eventually we will need to show the reality of our thoughts and our more serious intents and wishes for the future. For now we appeal to the anger and black comedic nature of the present, but eventually we will need to show the warmth and genuine love we have for our people."

it's really no different from the way crypto-fascism has always worked

I think there's a difference between how esea automatically orders the standings during the regular season and how the playoff seedings end up (since they're done manually by admins)

the point is that there are certain breeding grounds for this sort of extreme anti-islamic, anti-semitic, anti-black etc. ideology that results in so many of these extreme right wing mass shootings

obviously only 1 out of every like hundred thousand people with these sort of views ends up acting on them but it's not a coincidence that it always seems to turn out that these deranged shooters congregate in the same online spaces, are fans of the same figures, and parrot the same nonsense (great replacement, demographic threat, cultural marxism, soros, etc.)

It's not about giving this one specific guy attention or making him out to be some sort of tragic figure or any stupid shit like that, it's about pointing out the ideology that leads to this sort of thing

are you surprised

is the tiebreaker rounds for or head-to-head? I feel like I always hear it's one thing and then it turns out to be the other