nubbiThe only thing i don't understand is if the spoon was this op and the best weapon in the game (cuz based on what people say in the thread thats what they think) then why are there 3 prem/invite players combined that use it?
Not everyone is skilled with the spoon, hence few people use it. However, the spoon does become OP with the few people who are good with it. It's about the user, not the weapon.
nubbiAlso to me it kinda looks like its only the salty medic mains crying who don't have good movement and haven't got very good awareness
In these clips, the medic was aware of the soldier and I don't think their movement was "bad".
A medic can juke/dodge/surf a soldier using rockets, while with the spoon, there's practically nothing anyone can do about it except pop or drop.
chiefdogI could be wrong but isn't mg really easy to counter with good awareness, good movement and a scout? Should we not reward skilled weapons and outplay potential? Isn't it a good thing if a good enough soldier can break a stalemate with a set off good jumps and a well timed spoon?
In stalemates, I think both teams should have almost equal chances of winning. The issue arises when the attacking team has a market gardener soldier. They have time to prepare and get a good jump in (for example, soapymesiter's clip), while the defending team will not have such a great opportunity if they counter sac (with the spoon) since the enemy is more prepared and expecting and also playing passive positions. Haven't you noticed how the market gardener almost always excels when you are attacking with point advantage? It does not favor both sides equally when breaking stalemates with the spoon.
The market gardener can achieve more than any launcher for less skill/aim. The few people who can use it terrorize other teams, and it is really hard to counter. That is why it is overpowered, ban the spoon.