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Is Lange OK?
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I've been subscribed to Lange on YouTube for a while, and most of the time he didn't post much and I pretty much forgot about his channel until he started posting a bunch of reuploaded music and videos with 'cryptic' titles and messages and links that give me the impression he's in a bad place.

Videos like this and the comments / descriptions he's left under videos like this one and this one just have me worried he's going to hurt himself.

I'm hoping I just don't 'get' the joke, or that there's some context I've missed, but the stuff he's writing reminds me of the stuff a friend with schizophrenia came up with before he was on meds.

I've been subscribed to Lange on YouTube for a while, and most of the time he didn't post much and I pretty much forgot about his channel until he started posting a bunch of reuploaded music and videos with 'cryptic' titles and messages and links that give me the impression he's in a bad place.

Videos like [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73pkot2qduM]this[/url] and the comments / descriptions he's left under videos like [url=https://youtu.be/ixW5k1osKf0]this one[/url] and [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbZttHY26io]this one[/url] just have me worried he's going to hurt himself.

I'm hoping I just don't 'get' the joke, or that there's some context I've missed, but the stuff he's writing reminds me of the stuff a friend with schizophrenia came up with before he was on meds.
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https://www.teamfortress.tv/post/1013618/pegging

https://www.teamfortress.tv/post/1013618/pegging
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I didn't realise that thread changed into one about Lange, but jesus christ some of those comments are awful, I'm genuinely worried about the guy and I hope that thread isn't how people in general are reacting to his recent posts on social media.

Has anyone that knows him irl reached out to him?

I didn't realise that thread changed into one about Lange, but jesus christ some of those comments are awful, I'm genuinely worried about the guy and I hope that thread isn't how people in general are reacting to his recent posts on social media.

Has anyone that knows him irl reached out to him?
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posted this in the other thread but i'll just repost it here again for visibility. This might be overreacting but it seems kind of off to have an entire thread posting his weird, cryptic, paranoid tweets without suggesting that someone see if everythings good

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anybody here from the community knew lange personally? there's gotta be a couple ppl who can get in contact with family or a friend or something. Not trying to diagnose ppl over the internet but it really doesn't look good whatever is going on, and I'd imagine a schizophrenic episode could put someone in a really bad situation if they don't get help and have no support system. And I don't think it could hurt at all asking someone close to him to check if everythings ok

posted this in the other thread but i'll just repost it here again for visibility. This might be overreacting but it seems kind of off to have an entire thread posting his weird, cryptic, paranoid tweets without suggesting that someone see if everythings good


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anybody here from the community knew lange personally? there's gotta be a couple ppl who can get in contact with family or a friend or something. Not trying to diagnose ppl over the internet but it really doesn't look good whatever is going on, and I'd imagine a schizophrenic episode could put someone in a really bad situation if they don't get help and have no support system. And I don't think it could hurt at all asking someone close to him to check if everythings ok
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its either hes schizo or hes being extremely pretentious
everyone instantly assuming hes mentally ill but its also a possibility he has some sort of ego
also apparently he deleted the nodecg github which is pretty dumb

its either hes schizo or hes being extremely pretentious
everyone instantly assuming hes mentally ill but its also a possibility he has some sort of ego
also apparently he deleted the nodecg github which is pretty dumb
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#6
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Who would have thought the guy that made MGE is cracked in the melon?

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This is a joke
Who would have thought the guy that made MGE is cracked in the melon?


[spoiler]This is a joke[/spoiler]
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I think you have to be schizo or a pseud to think people don't know about Five Eyes and act like you're unearthing arcane surveillance secrets because you know that the largest English-speaking countries all share intelligence info between eachother.

But more seriously: As funny, gross and honestly pretty contemptible as his current behaviour is, I have to say it's sad to see someone who legit did so much for other people, in this community and others, fall into this self-destructive spiral. I can't help but wonder what the people closer to him think of all of this.
Whether or not you can pin down exactly what went wrong for the dude doesn't really matter I think, it's pretty safe to say he's not okay, people who are okay don't go on deleting sprees erasing years of their life and burning bridges the way he is. I miss the dude who played co-op surf on stream with truktruk tbh.

LupusThis is a joke

Coward, downpootis'd for fear.

I think you have to be schizo or a pseud to think people don't know about Five Eyes and act like you're unearthing arcane surveillance secrets because you know that the largest English-speaking countries all share intelligence info between eachother.

But more seriously: As funny, gross and honestly pretty contemptible as his current behaviour is, I have to say it's sad to see someone who legit did so much for other people, in this community and others, fall into this self-destructive spiral. I can't help but wonder what the people closer to him think of all of this.
Whether or not you can pin down exactly what went wrong for the dude doesn't really matter I think, it's pretty safe to say he's not okay, people who are okay don't go on deleting sprees erasing years of their life and burning bridges the way he is. I miss the dude who played co-op surf on stream with truktruk tbh.

[quote=Lupus]This is a joke[/quote]
Coward, downpootis'd for fear.
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#8
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Lange making an ARG to announce MGE 2

Lange making an ARG to announce MGE 2
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Lange was one of the first people I met irl from tf2, he's always been the 'ahead of the curve' type and on his own wave. I don't detect anything super alarming, think it's just him getting just bored waiting for his job with TOTH to pick back up (I imagine is all on pause) and is entertaining himself. He's been exercising music as long as I can remember, I think I remember the first sample he dropped before making them into videos you're seeing now, he wasn't unhealthy then I don't think now. Is this a mid-life crisis or a break of sanity? Well, he's smart enough I wouldn't dismiss the possibility but I don't think this is a cry for help in any sense of the way from Lange.

Lange was one of the first people I met irl from tf2, he's always been the 'ahead of the curve' type and on his own wave. I don't detect anything super alarming, think it's just him getting just bored waiting for his job with TOTH to pick back up (I imagine is all on pause) and is entertaining himself. He's been exercising music as long as I can remember, I think I remember the first sample he dropped before making them into videos you're seeing now, he wasn't unhealthy then I don't think now. Is this a mid-life crisis or a break of sanity? Well, he's smart enough I wouldn't dismiss the possibility but I don't think this is a cry for help in any sense of the way from Lange.
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he has been contacted by family last time i heard. hes been doxxed after months of twitter posting along the lines of cia ex-gf and saying that big companies are out to get him. i wish him the best but hes just like, not helping himself from we all see.

he has been contacted by family last time i heard. hes been doxxed after months of twitter posting along the lines of cia ex-gf and saying that big companies are out to get him. i wish him the best but hes just like, not helping himself from we all see.
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dMenaceLange was one of the first people I met irl from tf2, he's always been the 'ahead of the curve' type and on his own wave. I don't detect anything super alarming, think it's just him getting just bored waiting for his job with TOTH to pick back up (I imagine is all on pause) and is entertaining himself. He's been exercising music as long as I can remember, I think I remember the first sample he dropped before making them into videos you're seeing now, he wasn't unhealthy then I don't think now. Is this a mid-life crisis or a break of sanity? Well, he's smart enough I wouldn't dismiss the possibility but I don't think this is a cry for help in any sense of the way from Lange.

I really hope you're right.

To me it sounds a lot like the stuff a Schizophrenic friend of mine said in the months before accusing me of trying to kill him and motioning towards killing himself 'because that was what I wanted' [said friend is on meds now and relatively stable, but for a long while he was in a really bad place that scared the hell out of me as a friend].

I might be overly sensitive to this sort of thing, but the stuff where he's acting like he's revealing this great truth we don't know about and linking all of these different ideas with thoughts that don't follow any kind of logic I understand is really uncomfortable to see.

I really hope he's just bored or messing around.

[quote=dMenace]Lange was one of the first people I met irl from tf2, he's always been the 'ahead of the curve' type and on his own wave. I don't detect anything super alarming, think it's just him getting just bored waiting for his job with TOTH to pick back up (I imagine is all on pause) and is entertaining himself. He's been exercising music as long as I can remember, I think I remember the first sample he dropped before making them into videos you're seeing now, he wasn't unhealthy then I don't think now. Is this a mid-life crisis or a break of sanity? Well, he's smart enough I wouldn't dismiss the possibility but I don't think this is a cry for help in any sense of the way from Lange.[/quote]

I really hope you're right.

To me it sounds a lot like the stuff a Schizophrenic friend of mine said in the months before accusing me of trying to kill him and motioning towards killing himself 'because that was what I wanted' [said friend is on meds now and relatively stable, but for a long while he was in a really bad place that scared the hell out of me as a friend].

I might be overly sensitive to this sort of thing, but the stuff where he's acting like he's revealing this great truth we don't know about and linking all of these different ideas with thoughts that don't follow any kind of logic I understand is really uncomfortable to see.

I really hope he's just bored or messing around.
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me in 10 years

me in 10 years
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His twitterposts have been messed up for a while now...

His twitterposts have been messed up for a while now...
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payload.tf
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Reeroits either hes schizo or hes being extremely pretentious
everyone instantly assuming hes mentally ill but its also a possibility he has some sort of ego
also apparently he deleted the nodecg github which is pretty dumb

The maintainers have brought it back and are redeveloping it :)
Apparently it was a personal issue, that they rather not speak about. Whatever that means :/

[quote=Reero]its either hes schizo or hes being extremely pretentious
everyone instantly assuming hes mentally ill but its also a possibility he has some sort of ego
also apparently he deleted the nodecg github which is pretty dumb[/quote]
The maintainers have brought it back and are redeveloping it :)
Apparently it was a personal issue, that they rather not speak about. Whatever that means :/
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Tip of the Hats
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wouldn't be appropriate for me to go into too much detail, but just know that his friends and family are doing everything they can to look out for him. he has stepped away from TotH and other things to do what he personally enjoys, and as far as we can tell he's staying safe

wouldn't be appropriate for me to go into too much detail, but just know that his friends and family are doing everything they can to look out for him. he has stepped away from TotH and other things to do what he personally enjoys, and as far as we can tell he's staying safe
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Going to be honest I dont know a lot about Lange. Started playing after he retired from playing. Saw this thread and started looking him up because i saw his twitter was suspended/deleted. Found this while googling Alex Van Camp. Never heard of this site before so idk anything about it. Because of this I dont know how much of it is true. Seems like he fell into some far left conspiracy stuff after becoming highly politically active. I'm hoping this is untrue (in terms of being conspiracy theory type shit). I hope his friends and family can get him through whatever he is going through.

Edit: Other than this all I could find about him were these two
https://bandcamp.com/alexvancamp
And this one which has links to his youtube, github, soundcloud, and his email
https://www.alexvan.camp/

Edit 2: Removed link because im fucking stupid and i didnt realize it had his address... Goes to show you should fucking read everything....

Going to be honest I dont know a lot about Lange. Started playing after he retired from playing. Saw this thread and started looking him up because i saw his twitter was suspended/deleted. Found this while googling Alex Van Camp. Never heard of this site before so idk anything about it. Because of this I dont know how much of it is true. Seems like he fell into some far left conspiracy stuff after becoming highly politically active. I'm hoping this is untrue (in terms of being conspiracy theory type shit). I hope his friends and family can get him through whatever he is going through.

Edit: Other than this all I could find about him were these two
[url=]https://bandcamp.com/alexvancamp[/url]
And this one which has links to his youtube, github, soundcloud, and his email
[url=]https://www.alexvan.camp/[/url]

Edit 2: Removed link because im fucking stupid and i didnt realize it had his address... Goes to show you should fucking read everything....
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kiwifarms is a bit of a shithole where people go exclusively to mock/make fun of/observe people's fall into insanity/weird behaviour. It's a toxic place by design. I'm seeing a decent amount of people here expressing genuine worry, but on KF the majority are just laughing at what he's dealing with.

That said. I know Lange has some great friends like #15, so i think we shouldn't have to worry so much. I really think he's just expressing some intellectual creativity right now is all.

kiwifarms is a bit of a shithole where people go exclusively to mock/make fun of/observe people's fall into insanity/weird behaviour. It's a toxic place by design. I'm seeing a decent amount of people here expressing genuine worry, but on KF the majority are just laughing at what he's dealing with.

That said. I know Lange has some great friends like #15, so i think we shouldn't have to worry so much. I really think he's just expressing some intellectual creativity right now is all.
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DanceNumberkiwifarms is a bit of a shithole where people go exclusively to mock/make fun of/observe people's fall into insanity/weird behaviour. It's a toxic place by design. I'm seeing a decent amount of people here expressing genuine worry, but on KF the majority are just laughing at what he's dealing with.

That said. I know Lange has some great friends like #15, so i think we shouldn't have to worry so much. I really think he's just expressing some intellectual creativity right now is all.

I was more or less ignoring what was said about him and only looking at the screenshots of what was said from him. Again, I don't know the validity of the site, but what you said made me actually look at the comments and I can agree with it being a shithole. But I still think some of those screenshots can help tell the tale of what happened. If you dont like that, oh well. This is all i have to go on for now.

Edit: If I happen to find anything else about him ill be sure to say something. After my classes end today I might try going through his youtube and his soundcloud and see what I can find.

[quote=DanceNumber]kiwifarms is a bit of a shithole where people go exclusively to mock/make fun of/observe people's fall into insanity/weird behaviour. It's a toxic place by design. I'm seeing a decent amount of people here expressing genuine worry, but on KF the majority are just laughing at what he's dealing with.

That said. I know Lange has some great friends like #15, so i think we shouldn't have to worry so much. I really think he's just expressing some intellectual creativity right now is all.[/quote]
I was more or less ignoring what was said about him and only looking at the screenshots of what was said from him. Again, I don't know the validity of the site, but what you said made me actually look at the comments and I can agree with it being a shithole. But I still think some of those screenshots can help tell the tale of what happened. If you dont like that, oh well. This is all i have to go on for now.

Edit: If I happen to find anything else about him ill be sure to say something. After my classes end today I might try going through his youtube and his soundcloud and see what I can find.
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seven1.

dude we have already seen literally all this stuff on the other thread u dont need to do epic investigative journalism and link to sites that dox his home address

[quote=seven1].[/quote]
dude we have already seen literally all this stuff on the other thread u dont need to do epic investigative journalism and link to sites that dox his home address
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DanceNumberkiwifarms is a bit of a shithole

Its a little more than just "a bit" of a shithole. Kiwifarms probably has more degens per post than 4 or 8 chan does nowadays. And it really sucks that KF is seemingly trying to target and lolcow Lange. Really hope he's doing ok.

[quote=DanceNumber]kiwifarms is a bit of a shithole [/quote]

Its a little more than just "a bit" of a shithole. Kiwifarms probably has more degens per post than 4 or 8 chan does nowadays. And it really sucks that KF is seemingly trying to target and lolcow Lange. Really hope he's doing ok.
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why does every left-winger have beard and glasses combo lol

why does every left-winger have beard and glasses combo lol
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BumFreezedude we have already seen literally all this stuff on the other thread u dont need to do epic investigative journalism and link to sites that dox his home address

Didnt realize it had his address and shit. Removed link. Im going to look into more because I want to. If you dont like that oh fucking well. Its what i want to do.

[quote=BumFreeze]
dude we have already seen literally all this stuff on the other thread u dont need to do epic investigative journalism and link to sites that dox his home address[/quote]
Didnt realize it had his address and shit. Removed link. Im going to look into more because I want to. If you dont like that oh fucking well. Its what i want to do.
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paskowhy does every left-winger have beard and glasses combo lol

it got people laid in the seventies who otherwise would not have gotten laid

[quote=pasko]why does every left-winger have beard and glasses combo lol[/quote]
it got people laid in the seventies who otherwise would not have gotten laid
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heres an example of one of the numerous videos hes posted in the past few days
this is literally just a reupload of the song ghostwriter (notice how the song, the description, and the comment reply are ALL unrelated to each other)
The dude has schizophrenia. He has a chemical imbalance in his brain that can only be fixed if he'll be willing to take medication. Telling him "yeah dude everything you're saying is insane" isn't going to cure his schizophrenia or change his mind. At this point he needs to be forcefully admitted to a hospital and the doctors need to be shown or told about his activity on social media so he doesnt just put on a "hey im totally normal" act for the doctors so he can get out of the hospital sooner and without them diagnosing him.

https://i.imgur.com/0iJWGdp.png

heres an example of one of the numerous videos hes posted in the past few days
this is literally just a reupload of the song ghostwriter (notice how the song, the description, and the comment reply are ALL unrelated to each other)
The dude has schizophrenia. He has a chemical imbalance in his brain that can only be fixed if he'll be willing to take medication. Telling him "yeah dude everything you're saying is insane" isn't going to cure his schizophrenia or change his mind. At this point he needs to be forcefully admitted to a hospital and the doctors need to be shown or told about his activity on social media so he doesnt just put on a "hey im totally normal" act for the doctors so he can get out of the hospital sooner and without them diagnosing him.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/0iJWGdp.png[/img]
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I get people being concerned about Lange and make sure he's okay or whatever but can we chill out with the armchair psychiatrist shit? We don't know what's going on with him or what the motivation for this stuff is, doesn't feel right to be saying he has such and such mental illness or not. Sucks he deleted the nodecg repo tho whatever it was that led him to do it.

I get people being concerned about Lange and make sure he's okay or whatever but can we chill out with the armchair psychiatrist shit? We don't know what's going on with him or what the motivation for this stuff is, doesn't feel right to be saying he has such and such mental illness or not. Sucks he deleted the nodecg repo tho whatever it was that led him to do it.
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bearodactylI get people being concerned about Lange and make sure he's okay or whatever but can we chill out with the armchair psychiatrist shit? We don't know what's going on with him or what the motivation for this stuff is, doesn't feel right to be saying he has such and such mental illness or not. Sucks he deleted the nodecg repo tho whatever it was that led him to do it.

Agreed, sorry if it sounded like I was diagnosing him, I meant it only to be a basis for my concern.

[quote=bearodactyl]I get people being concerned about Lange and make sure he's okay or whatever but can we chill out with the armchair psychiatrist shit? We don't know what's going on with him or what the motivation for this stuff is, doesn't feel right to be saying he has such and such mental illness or not. Sucks he deleted the nodecg repo tho whatever it was that led him to do it.[/quote] Agreed, sorry if it sounded like I was diagnosing him, I meant it only to be a basis for my concern.
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hes just LARPing as a schizo, in reality hes just a mega blue pilled chicago art drone. this is his "creative expression" of orange man bad - hes fine.

hes just LARPing as a schizo, in reality hes just a mega blue pilled chicago art drone. this is his "creative expression" of orange man bad - hes fine.
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https://www.alexvan.camp/

He says he is okay in the comments, so I believe it is like this channel https://www.youtube.com/user/alantutorial/videos but intended to be a message about empathy instead of dark comedy. Imo he is totally aware of how vague it is and how it will come across

https://www.alexvan.camp/

He says he is okay in the comments, so I believe it is like this channel https://www.youtube.com/user/alantutorial/videos but intended to be a message about empathy instead of dark comedy. Imo he is totally aware of how vague it is and how it will come across
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RoLheres an example of one of the numerous videos hes posted in the past few days
this is literally just a reupload of the song ghostwriter (notice how the song, the description, and the comment reply are ALL unrelated to each other)
The dude has schizophrenia. He has a chemical imbalance in his brain that can only be fixed if he'll be willing to take medication. Telling him "yeah dude everything you're saying is insane" isn't going to cure his schizophrenia or change his mind. At this point he needs to be forcefully admitted to a hospital and the doctors need to be shown or told about his activity on social media so he doesnt just put on a "hey im totally normal" act for the doctors so he can get out of the hospital sooner and without them diagnosing him.
https://i.imgur.com/0iJWGdp.png

i think it's more insane to say that someone should be forcefully admitted to a hospital because internet detectives diagnosed them with a mental disorder that they have only pop-culture knowledge about

[quote=RoL]heres an example of one of the numerous videos hes posted in the past few days
this is literally just a reupload of the song ghostwriter (notice how the song, the description, and the comment reply are ALL unrelated to each other)
The dude has schizophrenia. He has a chemical imbalance in his brain that can only be fixed if he'll be willing to take medication. Telling him "yeah dude everything you're saying is insane" isn't going to cure his schizophrenia or change his mind. At this point he needs to be forcefully admitted to a hospital and the doctors need to be shown or told about his activity on social media so he doesnt just put on a "hey im totally normal" act for the doctors so he can get out of the hospital sooner and without them diagnosing him.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/0iJWGdp.png[/img][/quote]
i think it's more insane to say that someone should be forcefully admitted to a hospital because internet detectives diagnosed them with a mental disorder that they have only pop-culture knowledge about
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lange u good bro?

lange u good bro?
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