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le economy crash
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#301
8 Frags +

well what do you want from me mr. e

well what do you want from me mr. e
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#302
0 Frags +

idk im interested to see what they do i dont think there is a solution that has no drawbacks at all they have to concede something here

idk im interested to see what they do i dont think there is a solution that has no drawbacks at all they have to concede something here
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#303
36 Frags +
mustardoverlordy dont they just make all the unusuals from before yesterday like "vintage unusuals" or "double unusuals" or "true unusuals" or some shit

just call the new ones "usuals"

[quote=mustardoverlord]y dont they just make all the unusuals from before yesterday like "vintage unusuals" or "double unusuals" or "true unusuals" or some shit[/quote]

just call the new ones "usuals"
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#304
1 Frags +
Phantomthey have to concede something here

Probably revert what they can and hand out an item, for everyone's troubles. The cheater's lament got mentioned a few times, but they also did it with the glitched circuit board. It was never as extreme as this, but it's not the first time they've had to deal with people getting items they weren't supposed to.

[quote=Phantom]they have to concede something here[/quote]
Probably revert what they can and hand out an item, for everyone's troubles. The cheater's lament got mentioned a few times, but they also did it with the glitched circuit board. It was never as extreme as this, but it's not the first time they've had to deal with people getting items they weren't supposed to.
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#305
3 Frags +

if anyone is going to get fucked it's going to be trader mains. fucking with the real money marketplace transactions is going to be a potential legal issue.

if anyone is going to get fucked it's going to be trader mains. fucking with the real money marketplace transactions is going to be a potential legal issue.
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#306
-5 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNLFp102d9A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNLFp102d9A
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#307
13 Frags +

what if valve was just giving us free hats as a way to apologize for not actively developing their game :)

what if valve was just giving us free hats as a way to apologize for not actively developing their game :)
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#308
10 Frags +
hooliif anyone is going to get fucked it's going to be trader mains. fucking with the real money marketplace transactions is going to be a potential legal issue.

They are literally just video game hats that only have the value assigned to them by other players. Trader mains are going to just have to choke on those tears while they scream about how many hours it took them to make a $30 profit when they could've just gotten a job at Chick-Fil-A.

[quote=hooli]if anyone is going to get fucked it's going to be trader mains. fucking with the real money marketplace transactions is going to be a potential legal issue.[/quote]
They are literally just video game hats that only have the value assigned to them by other players. Trader mains are going to just have to choke on those tears while they scream about how many hours it took them to make a $30 profit when they could've just gotten a job at Chick-Fil-A.
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#309
52 Frags +
morwannegThey are literally just video game hats that only have the value assigned to them by other players.

That is how most money works

[quote=morwanneg]
They are literally just video game hats that only have the value assigned to them by other players.[/quote]
That is how most money works
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#310
-1 Frags +

I slept after work, did they take my hats

I slept after work, did they take my hats
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#311
-3 Frags +
tojoI slept after work, did they take my hats

yeah bro they took them all and didn't do any refunds it's crazy

[quote=tojo]I slept after work, did they take my hats[/quote]
yeah bro they took them all and didn't do any refunds it's crazy
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#312
6 Frags +

My conspiracy theory about all of this is that mastercoms knows enough about the game's codebase that she foresaw this was a bug that could potentially happen and bought 1000 of the correct type of crates as an investment.

My conspiracy theory about all of this is that mastercoms knows enough about the game's codebase that she foresaw this was a bug that could potentially happen and bought 1000 of the correct type of crates as an investment.
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#313
-1 Frags +

correct me if im wrong but shouldn't this still mess up the prices if everyone and their mother has an unusual, the demand is lower

correct me if im wrong but shouldn't this still mess up the prices if everyone and their mother has an unusual, the demand is lower
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#314
11 Frags +
ivan_correct me if im wrong but shouldn't this still mess up the prices if everyone and their mother has an unusual, the demand is lower

See the thread title bro

[quote=ivan_]correct me if im wrong but shouldn't this still mess up the prices if everyone and their mother has an unusual, the demand is lower[/quote]
See the thread title bro
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#315
-9 Frags +
Snackivan_correct me if im wrong but shouldn't this still mess up the prices if everyone and their mother has an unusual, the demand is lowerSee the thread title bro

"le economy crash" thread was made yesterday when the glitch first came out

[quote=Snack][quote=ivan_]correct me if im wrong but shouldn't this still mess up the prices if everyone and their mother has an unusual, the demand is lower[/quote]
See the thread title bro[/quote]
"le economy crash" thread was made yesterday when the glitch first came out
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#316
1 Frags +

i got lucky and flipped all my shit for keys before everything got trade restricted, but now i have $25 extra in my steam account that i can no longer flip stuff with. any game recommendations for my leftover spoils of war?

i got lucky and flipped all my shit for keys before everything got trade restricted, but now i have $25 extra in my steam account that i can no longer flip stuff with. any game recommendations for my leftover spoils of war?
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#317
-7 Frags +
daybraeki got lucky and flipped all my shit for keys before everything got trade restricted, but now i have $25 extra in my steam account that i can no longer flip stuff with. any game recommendations for my leftover spoils of war?

I bet that guy you fucked over will not be very pleased

[quote=daybraek]i got lucky and flipped all my shit for keys before everything got trade restricted, but now i have $25 extra in my steam account that i can no longer flip stuff with. any game recommendations for my leftover spoils of war?[/quote]
I bet that guy you fucked over will not be very pleased
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#318
24 Frags +
drawded-protoweird, some of the most socialist countries in the world rank the highest in things like happiness, quality of life, safety, financial & job security etc.like what? genuinely curious which countries you're referring to

Hey

[quote=drawded][quote=-proto]weird, some of the most socialist countries in the world rank the highest in things like happiness, quality of life, safety, financial & job security etc.[/quote]
like what? genuinely curious which countries you're referring to[/quote]
Hey
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#319
2 Frags +

Idk about them waiting over the weekend. The longer they wait, the more damage will be done if they decide to reset everyone’s inv. They probably have to reset csgo/Dota/whatever as well because items get traded between those games and tf2.

Idk about them waiting over the weekend. The longer they wait, the more damage will be done if they decide to reset everyone’s inv. They probably have to reset csgo/Dota/whatever as well because items get traded between those games and tf2.
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#320
0 Frags +
HerpTimdaybraeki got lucky and flipped all my shit for keys before everything got trade restricted, but now i have $25 extra in my steam account that i can no longer flip stuff with. any game recommendations for my leftover spoils of war?I bet that guy you fucked over will not be very pleased

hes now got his dream hat for cents on the dollar im sure hes doin fine

[quote=HerpTim][quote=daybraek]i got lucky and flipped all my shit for keys before everything got trade restricted, but now i have $25 extra in my steam account that i can no longer flip stuff with. any game recommendations for my leftover spoils of war?[/quote]
I bet that guy you fucked over will not be very pleased[/quote]
hes now got his dream hat for cents on the dollar im sure hes doin fine
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#321
6 Frags +

so people are estimating around 100k unusuals being unboxed (probably more), keys cost 2.2 euro each so valve made roughly 220k not counting if people already had keys.

TF2 HAS BEEN THE MOST PROFITABLE IT HAS EVER BEEN TIME FOR A MAJOR BOYS

so people are estimating around 100k unusuals being unboxed (probably more), keys cost 2.2 euro each so valve made roughly 220k not counting if people already had keys.

TF2 HAS BEEN THE MOST PROFITABLE IT HAS EVER BEEN TIME FOR A MAJOR BOYS
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#322
-7 Frags +
YeeHawIdk about them waiting over the weekend. The longer they wait, the more damage will be done if they decide to reset everyone’s inv. They probably have to reset csgo/Dota/whatever as well because items get traded between those games and tf2.

well its back to normal boys, market has returned but the unusuals have become untradeable and unmarketable, still kinda bad but yeah decent solution

[quote=YeeHaw]Idk about them waiting over the weekend. The longer they wait, the more damage will be done if they decide to reset everyone’s inv. They probably have to reset csgo/Dota/whatever as well because items get traded between those games and tf2.[/quote]

well its back to normal boys, market has returned but the unusuals have become untradeable and unmarketable, still kinda bad but yeah decent solution
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#323
4 Frags +
roboprodYeeHawIdk about them waiting over the weekend. The longer they wait, the more damage will be done if they decide to reset everyone’s inv. They probably have to reset csgo/Dota/whatever as well because items get traded between those games and tf2.
well its back to normal boys, market has returned but the unusuals have become untradeable and unmarketable, still kinda bad but yeah decent solution

no its a gay solution i sold all my crates and wanted to buy some of these fuckers

[quote=roboprod][quote=YeeHaw]Idk about them waiting over the weekend. The longer they wait, the more damage will be done if they decide to reset everyone’s inv. They probably have to reset csgo/Dota/whatever as well because items get traded between those games and tf2.[/quote]

well its back to normal boys, market has returned but the unusuals have become untradeable and unmarketable, still kinda bad but yeah decent solution[/quote]
no its a gay solution i sold all my crates and wanted to buy some of these fuckers
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#324
-2 Frags +
Wandumdrawded-protoweird, some of the most socialist countries in the world rank the highest in things like happiness, quality of life, safety, financial & job security etc.like what? genuinely curious which countries you're referring toHey

how is denmark socialist

[quote=Wandum][quote=drawded][quote=-proto]weird, some of the most socialist countries in the world rank the highest in things like happiness, quality of life, safety, financial & job security etc.[/quote]
like what? genuinely curious which countries you're referring to[/quote]
Hey[/quote]
how is denmark socialist
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#325
22 Frags +
drawdedWandumdrawded-protoweird, some of the most socialist countries in the world rank the highest in things like happiness, quality of life, safety, financial & job security etc.like what? genuinely curious which countries you're referring toHeyhow is denmark socialist

The social-democratic welfare state is social, way too extreme for the americans, so much further left than they could ever imagine, but obviously not communist, therefore it must be socialist.

At some point people have just given up on explaining that the nordic model or really anything that provides more than the absolute minimum isn't automatically socialism. If the americans want to call it socialism then we'll just call it "socialism" when talking with them. At least the american left calls it socialism, which is at least in the general ballpark, and not just communism like the american right believes it is.

On topic: If this doesn't prove that Valve doesn't do any sort of testing or quality control before rolling out updates I don't know what will.

[quote=drawded][quote=Wandum][quote=drawded][quote=-proto]weird, some of the most socialist countries in the world rank the highest in things like happiness, quality of life, safety, financial & job security etc.[/quote]
like what? genuinely curious which countries you're referring to[/quote]
Hey[/quote]
how is denmark socialist[/quote]
The social-democratic welfare state is social, way too extreme for the americans, so much further left than they could ever imagine, but obviously not communist, therefore it must be socialist.

At some point people have just given up on explaining that the nordic model or really anything that provides more than the absolute minimum isn't automatically socialism. If the americans want to call it socialism then we'll just call it "socialism" when talking with them. At least the american left calls it socialism, which is at least in the general ballpark, and not just communism like the american right believes it is.


On topic: If this doesn't prove that Valve doesn't do any sort of testing or quality control before rolling out updates I don't know what will.
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#326
27 Frags +

shhhh dont say the s-word or all americans die

shhhh dont say the s-word or all americans die
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#327
-4 Frags +
toads_tfroboprodYeeHawIdk about them waiting over the weekend. The longer they wait, the more damage will be done if they decide to reset everyone’s inv. They probably have to reset csgo/Dota/whatever as well because items get traded between those games and tf2.
well its back to normal boys, market has returned but the unusuals have become untradeable and unmarketable, still kinda bad but yeah decent solution
no its a gay solution i sold all my crates and wanted to buy some of these fuckers

gay solution because it doesn't benefit your ass lul

[quote=toads_tf][quote=roboprod][quote=YeeHaw]Idk about them waiting over the weekend. The longer they wait, the more damage will be done if they decide to reset everyone’s inv. They probably have to reset csgo/Dota/whatever as well because items get traded between those games and tf2.[/quote]

well its back to normal boys, market has returned but the unusuals have become untradeable and unmarketable, still kinda bad but yeah decent solution[/quote]
no its a gay solution i sold all my crates and wanted to buy some of these fuckers[/quote]
gay solution because it doesn't benefit your ass lul
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#328
-2 Frags +
roboprodtoads_tfroboprodYeeHawIdk about them waiting over the weekend. The longer they wait, the more damage will be done if they decide to reset everyone’s inv. They probably have to reset csgo/Dota/whatever as well because items get traded between those games and tf2.
well its back to normal boys, market has returned but the unusuals have become untradeable and unmarketable, still kinda bad but yeah decent solution
no its a gay solution i sold all my crates and wanted to buy some of these fuckers
gay solution because it doesn't benefit your ass lul

yes?????

on a serious note i didnt get the vibe that what they did was final, although i cant really think of another solution that wouldnt piss people off more than this

[quote=roboprod][quote=toads_tf][quote=roboprod][quote=YeeHaw]Idk about them waiting over the weekend. The longer they wait, the more damage will be done if they decide to reset everyone’s inv. They probably have to reset csgo/Dota/whatever as well because items get traded between those games and tf2.[/quote]

well its back to normal boys, market has returned but the unusuals have become untradeable and unmarketable, still kinda bad but yeah decent solution[/quote]
no its a gay solution i sold all my crates and wanted to buy some of these fuckers[/quote]
gay solution because it doesn't benefit your ass lul[/quote]
yes?????

on a serious note i didnt get the vibe that what they did was final, although i cant really think of another solution that wouldnt piss people off more than this
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#329
26 Frags +

All they have to do is revert everything back as if the glitch never happened. They have a full transaction history in their database, and can filter by associations to these crates, opening, selling, buying them, or buying any unusuals in the crate droplist that were listed during the glitch. Valve holds funds for 45 days after the end of the month that the purchase took place. So they can revert all transactions and refund money. If they wanted to keep the profit spike they made off of this, they can refund to Steam Wallet instead of payment method. Those that want to refund to their payment method can do so manually through Steam Support, by refunding the Steam Wallet transaction.

The only people who would lose money are people who traded items and did a separate monetary transaction outside of Steam, which Valve is not responsible for and disclaims all liability from in their EULA and warnings in their trading interface.

No one can really complain then. This was a glitch, and I don't know what people were expecting. They have done this in the past too.

Any other solution has a downside to some party, unless Valve foots the bill, and lets the people who sold crates/unusuals keep the money, while still refunding the people who bought stuff based on the glitch. And if we go down the ethics route, they totally should (it was their mistake after all), but I don't think they will (they can pretend it never happened).

All they have to do is revert everything back as if the glitch never happened. They have a full transaction history in their database, and can filter by associations to these crates, opening, selling, buying them, or buying any unusuals in the crate droplist that were listed during the glitch. Valve holds funds for 45 days after the end of the month that the purchase took place. So they can revert all transactions and refund money. If they wanted to keep the profit spike they made off of this, they can refund to Steam Wallet instead of payment method. Those that want to refund to their payment method can do so manually through Steam Support, by refunding the Steam Wallet transaction.

The only people who would lose money are people who traded items and did a separate monetary transaction outside of Steam, which Valve is not responsible for and disclaims all liability from in their EULA and warnings in their trading interface.

No one can really complain then. This was a glitch, and I don't know what people were expecting. They have [url=https://www.pcgamer.com/steam-suffers-currency-conversion-meltdown/]done this in the past[/url] too.

Any other solution has a downside to some party, unless Valve foots the bill, and lets the people who sold crates/unusuals keep the money, while still refunding the people who bought stuff based on the glitch. And if we go down the ethics route, they totally should (it was their mistake after all), but I don't think they will (they can pretend it never happened).
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#330
-18 Frags +

You go into a music store and like this guitar. It has been mislabelled for £200 instead of £2000. You go to the checkout and there's a new employee there who doesn't know this. He sells you the guitar for £200. You have the receipt. You now own the guitar.
The owner of the store shows up to your house the next day. He forcibly gives you £200 back and forcefully takes the guitar back. You have no say in the matter.

You go into a music store and like this guitar. It has been mislabelled for £200 instead of £2000. You go to the checkout and there's a new employee there who doesn't know this. He sells you the guitar for £200. You have the receipt. You now own the guitar.
The owner of the store shows up to your house the next day. He forcibly gives you £200 back and forcefully takes the guitar back. You have no say in the matter.
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