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1411
#1411
2 Frags +
YeeHawLord_Maximus_WillhammerI watched about 15 mins of his PugChamp demo on Sunshine and he doesn't appear to be cheating. Admittedly, it does seem quite sketchy when the dude plays on his alt and both his accounts have a VAC ban from 2019.i didnt say he was cheating in those games because it doesnt matter (its obviously suspicious like you said) and he is using a low fov silent aim which is one of the hardest cheats to detect if you're doing AC (especially on stv). it's also possible he wasn't using cheats in that particular game

Yeah I can't rule it out either, I'm no AC admin.

[quote=YeeHaw][quote=Lord_Maximus_Willhammer]I watched about 15 mins of his PugChamp demo on Sunshine and he doesn't appear to be cheating. Admittedly, it does seem quite sketchy when the dude plays on his alt and both his accounts have a VAC ban from 2019.[/quote]
i didnt say he was cheating in those games because it doesnt matter (its obviously suspicious like you said) and he is using a low fov silent aim which is one of the hardest cheats to detect if you're doing AC (especially on stv). it's also possible he wasn't using cheats in that particular game[/quote]

Yeah I can't rule it out either, I'm no AC admin.
1412
#1412
0 Frags +

tf2 hitreg does not work like that video he is 100% cheating

tf2 hitreg does not work like that video he is 100% cheating
1413
#1413
3 Frags +

https://i.gyazo.com/3c60d004b884f30d73128b345b0ccab7.mp4 wtf is this.

https://i.gyazo.com/3c60d004b884f30d73128b345b0ccab7.mp4 wtf is this.
1414
#1414
-2 Frags +

From the Subroza cheating accusations a while back. You can't really detect low fov aimbots even with handcam. Plus no one falls for this shit

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWIzOYBi88]From the Subroza cheating accusations a while back.[/url] You can't really detect low fov aimbots even with handcam. Plus no one falls for [url=https://youtu.be/iX-Qnlhfr8o?t=241]this shit[/url]
1415
#1415
0 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/qZ30aUy.png

this is definitely how hitreg works and is totally not someone cheating!

[img]https://i.imgur.com/qZ30aUy.png[/img]

this is definitely how hitreg works and is totally not someone cheating!
1416
#1416
15 Frags +

Going forward, admins will be handing out warnings and bans for inappropriate binds. Please check your binds and remove any inappropriate (racial, homophobic, transphobic, etc) binds. If you aren't sure if a bind is inappropriate, then don't use it. For example a quote by someone containing an offensive slur (censored or not) is not acceptable.

Going forward, admins will be handing out warnings and bans for inappropriate binds. Please check your binds and remove any inappropriate (racial, homophobic, transphobic, etc) binds. If you aren't sure if a bind is inappropriate, then don't use it. For example a quote by someone containing an offensive slur (censored or not) is not acceptable.
1417
#1417
-15 Frags +
klassyGoing forward, admins will be handing out warnings and bans for inappropriate binds. Please check your binds and remove any inappropriate (racial, homophobic, transphobic, etc) binds. If you aren't sure if a bind is inappropriate, then don't use it. For example a quote by someone containing an offensive slur (censored or not) is not acceptable.

Is "kys" acceptable

[quote=klassy]Going forward, admins will be handing out warnings and bans for inappropriate binds. Please check your binds and remove any inappropriate (racial, homophobic, transphobic, etc) binds. If you aren't sure if a bind is inappropriate, then don't use it. For example a quote by someone containing an offensive slur (censored or not) is not acceptable.[/quote]

Is "kys" acceptable
1418
#1418
22 Frags +
klassyIf you aren't sure if a bind is inappropriate, then don't use it.
[quote=klassy]If you aren't sure if a bind is inappropriate, then don't use it.[/quote]
1419
#1419
24 Frags +

https://clips.twitch.tv/ShortHappyWatermelonTakeNRG
ban this guy said it multiple times

https://clips.twitch.tv/BeautifulAntsySharkDuDudu when people told him he'd be banned

why are north americans so awesome :D

https://clips.twitch.tv/ShortHappyWatermelonTakeNRG
ban this guy said it multiple times

https://clips.twitch.tv/BeautifulAntsySharkDuDudu when people told him he'd be banned

why are north americans so awesome :D
1420
#1420
17 Frags +

He's perma'd in na pugchamp already sprite, probably why he moved to eu pugchamp

He's perma'd in na pugchamp already sprite, probably why he moved to eu pugchamp
1421
#1421
10 Frags +

wonder why....

wonder why....
1422
#1422
-14 Frags +

I am retarded ignore me.

I am retarded ignore me.
1423
#1423
18 Frags +

https://clips.twitch.tv/FunBoldSpiderCharlietheUnicorn

https://clips.twitch.tv/FunBoldSpiderCharlietheUnicorn
1424
#1424
10 Frags +

hes hard init

hes hard init
1425
#1425
-19 Frags +
WassermancounouWassermanhamahamYeeHawhi
recently 'WassermanTF2' (steam profile https://steamcommunity.com/id/fuckingangelway/ ) a player with no ETF2L history and 5 logs from a few days ago ( http://logs.tf/profile/76561198846475207 ) added up to pugchamp eu and started playing pretty well.

unfortunately he's a cheater: https://youtu.be/iX-Qnlhfr8o?t=265

please ban him, he has already played 5 pugs and was added today. any server operators who are reading this, please ban him also (this was recorded on pandacommunity mge server #23) thanks
even if he isn't cheating he sure is a racist with that sniper name of his so he deserves getting banned either way l0l
This is me, Wasserman. First, I'll tell you about a sniper rifle with a racist name. I bought it on the steam market with a pre-existing name. Because I didn't want to spend money on its name, I left it the same. I've never been a racist and I treat everyone the same.
Now about the video. I watched this piece and I even remember this match. I don't see anything special here. in my opinion, you do not know how to identify good players from using otherworldly programs. it was a normal match for me. If you want proof, I can provide ALL my pub demos (about 100).
As for the history of my games on ETF2L, this is my smurf account. My main account (on it as well as on the secondary there is a ban on cs 1.6) https://steamcommunity.com/id/336485937 if that's not enough for you, I'm afraid I have nothing else to interest you in. Thank you for listening!

k if u ain cheating im still gonna ban u for the alt account :)
Okay, but I'd like to make sure everyone knows that I'm not a cheater. Here's a video shot on bandicam on one of the MGE servers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJVt-tpyaZM
Can I remove the ban for the second account? Because my main one was stolen about a year ago and now I don't know who its owner is. If this of course can be taken as an excuse.
Reflectohttps://i.gyazo.com/3c60d004b884f30d73128b345b0ccab7.mp4 wtf is this.

u guys are getting trolled by a guy who types like this and shows footage of him with 200ms backtracking enabled as "proof he's not cheating." how easy is it to get trolled nowadays

200ms backtracking, lowfov server sided silent aim cuz it's not patched like it is in CS. i dont think fake angles are patched in TF2 either which explains why you aren't getting hit half the time in your sniper MGE video. don't fall for this trolling please

for future reference to this guy, silent aim and backtracking both are usually ragebotting options and give u away when u attempt to look legit. lowfov triggerbot and legitbots that draw a curve are what u should be using if u dont want to be obvious

[quote=Wasserman][quote=counou][quote=Wasserman][quote=hamaham][quote=YeeHaw]hi
recently 'WassermanTF2' (steam profile https://steamcommunity.com/id/fuckingangelway/ ) a player with no ETF2L history and 5 logs from a few days ago ( http://logs.tf/profile/76561198846475207 ) added up to pugchamp eu and started playing pretty well.

unfortunately he's a cheater: https://youtu.be/iX-Qnlhfr8o?t=265

please ban him, he has already played 5 pugs and was added today. any server operators who are reading this, please ban him also (this was recorded on pandacommunity mge server #23) thanks[/quote]
even if he isn't cheating he sure is a racist with that sniper name of his so he deserves getting banned either way l0l[/quote]
This is me, Wasserman. First, I'll tell you about a sniper rifle with a racist name. I bought it on the steam market with a pre-existing name. Because I didn't want to spend money on its name, I left it the same. I've never been a racist and I treat everyone the same.
Now about the video. I watched this piece and I even remember this match. I don't see anything special here. in my opinion, you do not know how to identify good players from using otherworldly programs. it was a normal match for me. If you want proof, I can provide ALL my pub demos (about 100).
As for the history of my games on ETF2L, this is my smurf account. My main account (on it as well as on the secondary there is a ban on cs 1.6) https://steamcommunity.com/id/336485937 if that's not enough for you, I'm afraid I have nothing else to interest you in. Thank you for listening![/quote]

k if u ain cheating im still gonna ban u for the alt account :)[/quote]
Okay, but I'd like to make sure everyone knows that I'm not a cheater. Here's a video shot on bandicam on one of the MGE servers. [youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJVt-tpyaZM [/youtube]
Can I remove the ban for the second account? Because my main one was stolen about a year ago and now I don't know who its owner is. If this of course can be taken as an excuse.[/quote]

[quote=Reflecto]https://i.gyazo.com/3c60d004b884f30d73128b345b0ccab7.mp4 wtf is this.[/quote]


u guys are getting trolled by a guy who types like this and shows footage of him with 200ms backtracking enabled as "proof he's not cheating." how easy is it to get trolled nowadays

200ms backtracking, lowfov server sided silent aim cuz it's not patched like it is in CS. i dont think fake angles are patched in TF2 either which explains why you aren't getting hit half the time in your sniper MGE video. don't fall for this trolling please

for future reference to this guy, silent aim and backtracking both are usually ragebotting options and give u away when u attempt to look legit. lowfov triggerbot and legitbots that draw a curve are what u should be using if u dont want to be obvious
1426
#1426
2 Frags +

can someone please fix the servers reassigning
every single pug they give you one server, let you play around on it for 5 mins, and then reassigns to another server for no reason

can someone please fix the servers reassigning
every single pug they give you one server, let you play around on it for 5 mins, and then reassigns to another server for no reason
1427
#1427
2 Frags +
SeinfeldWassermancounouWassermanhamahamYeeHawhi
recently 'WassermanTF2' (steam profile https://steamcommunity.com/id/fuckingangelway/ ) a player with no ETF2L history and 5 logs from a few days ago ( http://logs.tf/profile/76561198846475207 ) added up to pugchamp eu and started playing pretty well.

unfortunately he's a cheater: https://youtu.be/iX-Qnlhfr8o?t=265

please ban him, he has already played 5 pugs and was added today. any server operators who are reading this, please ban him also (this was recorded on pandacommunity mge server #23) thanks
even if he isn't cheating he sure is a racist with that sniper name of his so he deserves getting banned either way l0l
This is me, Wasserman. First, I'll tell you about a sniper rifle with a racist name. I bought it on the steam market with a pre-existing name. Because I didn't want to spend money on its name, I left it the same. I've never been a racist and I treat everyone the same.
Now about the video. I watched this piece and I even remember this match. I don't see anything special here. in my opinion, you do not know how to identify good players from using otherworldly programs. it was a normal match for me. If you want proof, I can provide ALL my pub demos (about 100).
As for the history of my games on ETF2L, this is my smurf account. My main account (on it as well as on the secondary there is a ban on cs 1.6) https://steamcommunity.com/id/336485937 if that's not enough for you, I'm afraid I have nothing else to interest you in. Thank you for listening!

k if u ain cheating im still gonna ban u for the alt account :)
Okay, but I'd like to make sure everyone knows that I'm not a cheater. Here's a video shot on bandicam on one of the MGE servers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJVt-tpyaZM
Can I remove the ban for the second account? Because my main one was stolen about a year ago and now I don't know who its owner is. If this of course can be taken as an excuse.
Reflectohttps://i.gyazo.com/3c60d004b884f30d73128b345b0ccab7.mp4 wtf is this.
u guys are getting trolled by a guy who types like this and shows footage of him with 200ms backtracking enabled as "proof he's not cheating." how easy is it to get trolled nowadays

200ms backtracking, lowfov server sided silent aim cuz it's not patched like it is in CS. i dont think fake angles are patched in TF2 either which explains why you aren't getting hit half the time in your sniper MGE video. don't fall for this trolling please

for future reference to this guy, silent aim and backtracking both are usually ragebotting options and give u away when u attempt to look legit. lowfov triggerbot and legitbots that draw a curve are what u should be using if u dont want to be obvious

damn its a good thing i cant read or else i wouldve had to know what this bullshit said

[quote=Seinfeld][quote=Wasserman][quote=counou][quote=Wasserman][quote=hamaham][quote=YeeHaw]hi
recently 'WassermanTF2' (steam profile https://steamcommunity.com/id/fuckingangelway/ ) a player with no ETF2L history and 5 logs from a few days ago ( http://logs.tf/profile/76561198846475207 ) added up to pugchamp eu and started playing pretty well.

unfortunately he's a cheater: https://youtu.be/iX-Qnlhfr8o?t=265

please ban him, he has already played 5 pugs and was added today. any server operators who are reading this, please ban him also (this was recorded on pandacommunity mge server #23) thanks[/quote]
even if he isn't cheating he sure is a racist with that sniper name of his so he deserves getting banned either way l0l[/quote]
This is me, Wasserman. First, I'll tell you about a sniper rifle with a racist name. I bought it on the steam market with a pre-existing name. Because I didn't want to spend money on its name, I left it the same. I've never been a racist and I treat everyone the same.
Now about the video. I watched this piece and I even remember this match. I don't see anything special here. in my opinion, you do not know how to identify good players from using otherworldly programs. it was a normal match for me. If you want proof, I can provide ALL my pub demos (about 100).
As for the history of my games on ETF2L, this is my smurf account. My main account (on it as well as on the secondary there is a ban on cs 1.6) https://steamcommunity.com/id/336485937 if that's not enough for you, I'm afraid I have nothing else to interest you in. Thank you for listening![/quote]

k if u ain cheating im still gonna ban u for the alt account :)[/quote]
Okay, but I'd like to make sure everyone knows that I'm not a cheater. Here's a video shot on bandicam on one of the MGE servers. [youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJVt-tpyaZM [/youtube]
Can I remove the ban for the second account? Because my main one was stolen about a year ago and now I don't know who its owner is. If this of course can be taken as an excuse.[/quote]

[quote=Reflecto]https://i.gyazo.com/3c60d004b884f30d73128b345b0ccab7.mp4 wtf is this.[/quote]


u guys are getting trolled by a guy who types like this and shows footage of him with 200ms backtracking enabled as "proof he's not cheating." how easy is it to get trolled nowadays

200ms backtracking, lowfov server sided silent aim cuz it's not patched like it is in CS. i dont think fake angles are patched in TF2 either which explains why you aren't getting hit half the time in your sniper MGE video. don't fall for this trolling please

for future reference to this guy, silent aim and backtracking both are usually ragebotting options and give u away when u attempt to look legit. lowfov triggerbot and legitbots that draw a curve are what u should be using if u dont want to be obvious[/quote]
damn its a good thing i cant read or else i wouldve had to know what this bullshit said
1428
#1428
17 Frags +

Legendary demoman doughy just got unfairly banned from pugs! (this one) He didn't do anything wrong!! These are the logs, he didn't maybe play very well but you know why get banned for it?

"You are currently restricted (aspects: sub, start, captain, chat, support) (expires: in 12 hours) for the reason: Do not attempt to obtain and/or utilize unfair advantages against other players"
Nobody who played the pug knows what it's for !!!

#justicefordoughy

forgot to EDIT: We found out the reason for the ban! The "unfair advantage" was killing a sniper in spawn while a scout teammate was pushed up to the door and held it open, and immediately dying afterwards. According to the enemy team there was quite a ruckus in their atmosphere that game and we suspect an admin attempted to take out their rage on this innocent young man. Still, not even a word about it in chat nor a warning but a straight 12 hour ban!

Legendary demoman doughy just got unfairly banned from pugs! [url=https://eu.pug.champ.gg/game/5e2483a775e1146d65433295](this one)[/url] He didn't do anything wrong!! [url=http://logs.tf/2453658#76561198058513958]These are the logs[/url], he didn't maybe play very well but you know why get banned for it?

"You are currently restricted (aspects: sub, start, captain, chat, support) (expires: in 12 hours) for the reason: Do not attempt to obtain and/or utilize unfair advantages against other players"
Nobody who played the pug knows what it's for !!!

#justicefordoughy

forgot to EDIT: We found out the reason for the ban! The "unfair advantage" was killing a sniper in spawn while a scout teammate was pushed up to the door and held it open, and immediately dying afterwards. According to the enemy team there was quite a ruckus in their atmosphere that game and we suspect an admin attempted to take out their rage on this innocent young man. Still, not even a word about it in chat nor a warning but a straight 12 hour ban!
1429
#1429
6 Frags +

why is doughy banned

why is doughy banned
1430
#1430
-9 Frags +
bearodactylcan someone please fix the servers reassigning
every single pug they give you one server, let you play around on it for 5 mins, and then reassigns to another server for no reason

our pug took over 10 minutes for the server to initially pop up, then did this
now people have to get subbed because they're gonna be late for scrims

i really don't comprehend what magic sorcery is at work to make it this slow but its horrible please fix @erynn @tsc

[quote=bearodactyl]can someone please fix the servers reassigning
every single pug they give you one server, let you play around on it for 5 mins, and then reassigns to another server for no reason[/quote]
our pug took over 10 minutes for the server to initially pop up, then did this
now people have to get subbed because they're gonna be late for scrims

i really don't comprehend what magic sorcery is at work to make it this slow but its horrible please fix @erynn @tsc
1431
#1431
4 Frags +
CollaideThese are the logs, he didn't maybe play very well but you know why get banned for it?

this belongs on another thread

[quote=Collaide][url=http://logs.tf/2453658#76561198058513958]These are the logs[/url], he didn't maybe play very well but you know why get banned for it?

[/quote]

this belongs on another thread
1432
#1432
3 Frags +

Servers need to be reassigned for EU and there aren't any admins available to fix it, we've been waiting for an hour, send help.

Servers need to be reassigned for EU and there aren't any admins available to fix it, we've been waiting for an hour, send help.
1433
#1433
4 Frags +

https://gyazo.com/739c7ffa526b6a03ecf38d1af742f545

https://gyazo.com/739c7ffa526b6a03ecf38d1af742f545
1434
#1434
2 Frags +

fixed

fixed
1435
#1435
-9 Frags +

[s][/s]
1436
#1436
1 Frags +

add up ?

add up ?
1437
#1437
-2 Frags +

Servers changed for EU? Ping is trash

Servers changed for EU? Ping is trash
1438
#1438
serveme.tf
1 Frags +
ShooshServers changed for EU? Ping is trash

Servers and hosting company are still the same since EU pugchamp started. I'm seeing 8ms ping from the server to your last known IP right now.
Please provide a net_graph 5 screenshot/video during the lag and a trace with WinMTR from your end to "baguette.fakkelbrigade.eu".

For some reason PugChamp never restarts their servers, so these ones have been online for 48 days, which doesn't help.

If you could book a BaguetteBrigade server on serveme.tf and confirm/refute the ping problem there that would be helpful too.

[quote=Shoosh]Servers changed for EU? Ping is trash[/quote]

Servers and hosting company are still the same since EU pugchamp started. I'm seeing 8ms ping from the server to your last known IP right now.
Please provide a net_graph 5 screenshot/video during the lag and a trace with [url=https://github.com/White-Tiger/WinMTR/releases]WinMTR[/url] from your end to "baguette.fakkelbrigade.eu".

For some reason PugChamp never restarts their servers, so these ones have been online for 48 days, which doesn't help.

If you could book a BaguetteBrigade server on [url=https://serveme.tf/]serveme.tf[/url] and confirm/refute the ping problem there that would be helpful too.
1439
#1439
2 Frags +

almost everyone that ive played with today has high ping to these eu servers but for a lot of us it doesnt feel any different to before

also someone had 3 different values from console netgraph and scoreboard

almost everyone that ive played with today has high ping to these eu servers but for a lot of us it doesnt feel any different to before

also someone had 3 different values from console netgraph and scoreboard
1440
#1440
1 Frags +

https://eu.pug.champ.gg/game/5e6cce3036ed841037fe7a29
server broken

https://eu.pug.champ.gg/game/5e6cce3036ed841037fe7a29
server broken
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