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Insomnia65: Grand Finals
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#31
20 Frags +
TheFragiletambohttps://twitter.com/4G_b4nny/status/1165731209361514496

YIKES

I'll actually never understand his hatred for other teams. Even when my teams were bitter rivals with b4nny / froyo, I still wanted NA to win Insomnia / Rewind LANs. At i55, we even gave froyo some warmup scrims before their grand finals match.

Did he become way more bitter after he had ESA edit his documentary countless times because all of the bad shit everyone said about him???

I wonder this too man. Maybe he just really wants that old mixup rivalry he used to have? It feels pretty tired at this point, and I wish it didn't have to be this way

[quote=TheFragile][quote=tambo]https://twitter.com/4G_b4nny/status/1165731209361514496

YIKES[/quote]

I'll actually never understand his hatred for other teams. Even when my teams were bitter rivals with b4nny / froyo, I still wanted NA to win Insomnia / Rewind LANs. At i55, we even gave froyo some warmup scrims before their grand finals match.

Did he become way more bitter after he had ESA edit his documentary countless times because all of the bad shit everyone said about him???[/quote]

I wonder this too man. Maybe he just really wants that old mixup rivalry he used to have? It feels pretty tired at this point, and I wish it didn't have to be this way
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#32
RGB LAN
36 Frags +
reakobtw since rewind 3 was cancelled can we get the full release as consolation

I'd love to, and already gave Wade my full permission to release my interview entirely. Can't remember exactly what he said (check his TFTV post history if you really care), but apparently it wasn't in the cards.

Right before the interview, Wade told us to just completely say whatever we want without any regard for anything. My interview was about an hour, and most of the compliments / good things I said ended up in the video. Everything else about his BM / man-child personality / how he changed from a quiet, quirky guy into a cringey narcissist mysteriously didn't make it into the final video. When I talked to some of the other people who also had interviews, it was exactly the same outcome as mine. This isn't a conspiracy theory, as one of the people that were responsible for working on the video said he demanded edits. He got numerous drafts to review before the final video. Never heard of a documentary on someone where they got to throw out all the parts they didn't like. LUL

Watch the trailer, then the documentary. The trailer's tone was entirely different than the documentary because a certain boi said "nooo I don't like how this depicts me :(((!!!!!!"

highfiveI wonder this too man. Maybe he just really wants that old mixup rivalry he used to have? It feels pretty tired at this point, and I wish it didn't have to be this way

It's kind of weird that he hasn't realized that if he had any amount of humility, it'd be better for himself as well as the game. Instead, he has these kinds of outbursts that weren't a tiny bit provoked by anyone.

[quote=reako]
btw since rewind 3 was cancelled can we get the full release as consolation[/quote]

I'd love to, and already gave Wade my full permission to release my interview entirely. Can't remember exactly what he said (check his TFTV post history if you really care), but apparently it wasn't in the cards.

Right before the interview, Wade told us to just completely say whatever we want without any regard for anything. My interview was about an hour, and most of the compliments / good things I said ended up in the video. Everything else about his BM / man-child personality / how he changed from a quiet, quirky guy into a cringey narcissist mysteriously didn't make it into the final video. When I talked to some of the other people who also had interviews, it was exactly the same outcome as mine. This isn't a conspiracy theory, as one of the people that were responsible for working on the video said he demanded edits. He got numerous drafts to review before the final video. Never heard of a documentary on someone where they got to throw out all the parts they didn't like. LUL

Watch the trailer, then the documentary. The trailer's tone was entirely different than the documentary because a certain boi said "nooo I don't like how this depicts me :(((!!!!!!"

[quote=highfive]
I wonder this too man. Maybe he just really wants that old mixup rivalry he used to have? It feels pretty tired at this point, and I wish it didn't have to be this way[/quote]

It's kind of weird that he hasn't realized that if he had any amount of humility, it'd be better for himself as well as the game. Instead, he has these kinds of outbursts that weren't a tiny bit provoked by anyone.
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#33
16 Frags +
TheFragilereakobtw since rewind 3 was cancelled can we get the full release as consolation
I'd love to, and already gave Wade my full permission to release my interview entirely. Can't remember exactly what he said (check his TFTV post history if you really care), but apparently it wasn't in the cards.

Right before the interview, Wade told us to just completely say whatever we want without any regard for anything. My interview was about an hour, and most of the compliments / good things I said ended up in the video. Everything else about his BM / man-child personality / how he changed from a quiet, quirky guy into a cringey narcissist mysteriously didn't make it into the final video. When I talked to some of the other people who also had interviews, it was exactly the same outcome as mine. This isn't a conspiracy theory, as one of the people that were responsible for working on the video said he demanded edits. He got numerous drafts to review before the final video. Never heard of a documentary on someone where they got to throw out all the parts they didn't like. LUL

Watch the trailer, then the documentary. The trailer's tone was entirely different than the documentary because a certain boi said "nooo I don't like how this depicts me :(((!!!!!!"
highfiveI wonder this too man. Maybe he just really wants that old mixup rivalry he used to have? It feels pretty tired at this point, and I wish it didn't have to be this way
It's kind of weird that he hasn't realized that if he had any amount of humility, it'd be better for himself as well as the game. Instead, he has these kinds of outbursts that weren't a tiny bit provoked by anyone.

His twitch chat certainly doesnt help, having a moderated echo chamber constantly stroking you off will definitely feed an ego

[quote=TheFragile][quote=reako]
btw since rewind 3 was cancelled can we get the full release as consolation[/quote]

I'd love to, and already gave Wade my full permission to release my interview entirely. Can't remember exactly what he said (check his TFTV post history if you really care), but apparently it wasn't in the cards.

Right before the interview, Wade told us to just completely say whatever we want without any regard for anything. My interview was about an hour, and most of the compliments / good things I said ended up in the video. Everything else about his BM / man-child personality / how he changed from a quiet, quirky guy into a cringey narcissist mysteriously didn't make it into the final video. When I talked to some of the other people who also had interviews, it was exactly the same outcome as mine. This isn't a conspiracy theory, as one of the people that were responsible for working on the video said he demanded edits. He got numerous drafts to review before the final video. Never heard of a documentary on someone where they got to throw out all the parts they didn't like. LUL

Watch the trailer, then the documentary. The trailer's tone was entirely different than the documentary because a certain boi said "nooo I don't like how this depicts me :(((!!!!!!"

[quote=highfive]
I wonder this too man. Maybe he just really wants that old mixup rivalry he used to have? It feels pretty tired at this point, and I wish it didn't have to be this way[/quote]

It's kind of weird that he hasn't realized that if he had any amount of humility, it'd be better for himself as well as the game. Instead, he has these kinds of outbursts that weren't a tiny bit provoked by anyone.[/quote]

His twitch chat certainly doesnt help, having a moderated echo chamber constantly stroking you off will definitely feed an ego
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#34
-13 Frags +

bring back the rewind 2 ascent squad???
paddie bo4r marmaloo sigh bdonski nursey, they did made se7en got 3rd place.

bring back the rewind 2 ascent squad???
paddie bo4r marmaloo sigh bdonski nursey, they did made se7en got 3rd place.
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#35
19 Frags +

b4nny is a direct result of b4nny subs

b4nny is a direct result of b4nny subs
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#36
1 Frags +

playoffs was supposed to be double elimination right? so why did ascent get knocked out after 1 series? am i missing something here

playoffs was supposed to be double elimination right? so why did ascent get knocked out after 1 series? am i missing something here
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#37
9 Frags +
Meatballplayoffs was supposed to be double elimination right? so why did ascent get knocked out after 1 series? am i missing something here

The format for iseries has always been like this with the UBF winner getting the advantage of banning 2 maps. It's also like this in other games like dota. There has never been bracket resets in tf2 except for ESEA I guess

[quote=Meatball]playoffs was supposed to be double elimination right? so why did ascent get knocked out after 1 series? am i missing something here[/quote]
The format for iseries has always been like this with the UBF winner getting the advantage of banning 2 maps. It's also like this in other games like dota. There has never been bracket resets in tf2 except for ESEA I guess
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#38
13 Frags +

Tfw you forget i63 froyo win during your stage intro ayyy

Tfw you forget i63 froyo win during your stage intro ayyy
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#39
48 Frags +

Wanna bump this thread to say that the addition of a crowd microphone would make wonders for the online watching experience. I watched the stream from my hotel room and the lack of noise picked up from the crowd made the grand finals at first glance feel like an online final. If newcomers hear the hype of the crowd during insane moments like Sil's airshot it will probably be easier to distinguish hype moments more easily.

Wanna bump this thread to say that the addition of a crowd microphone would make wonders for the online watching experience. I watched the stream from my hotel room and the lack of noise picked up from the crowd made the grand finals at first glance feel like an online final. If newcomers hear the hype of the crowd during insane moments like Sil's airshot it will probably be easier to distinguish hype moments more easily.
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#40
TFNew
9 Frags +
aieraso why is there a lower bracket if there isnt a bracket reset?

imo having a single bo5 is more exciting than having potentially 2 bo3s and also the upper bracket team gets 2 map bans + first pick (if they want it) while the lower bracket teams get no map bans at all which is a pretty big advantage imo.

[quote=aiera]so why is there a lower bracket if there isnt a bracket reset?[/quote]
imo having a single bo5 is more exciting than having potentially 2 bo3s and also the upper bracket team gets 2 map bans + first pick (if they want it) while the lower bracket teams get no map bans at all which is a pretty big advantage imo.
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#41
3 Frags +

Any must-watch games from this event? I haven't had time to watch any yet.

Any must-watch games from this event? I haven't had time to watch any yet.
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#42
5 Frags +

i didnt see it all but: LB Round 3 (Ora vs top5Sons) on product was fun, LB Round 5 matchup (Faint vs Ascent.EU) was close

i didnt see it all but: LB Round 3 (Ora vs top5Sons) on product was fun, LB Round 5 matchup (Faint vs Ascent.EU) was close
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#43
5 Frags +
zfnAny must-watch games from this event? I haven't had time to watch any yet.

Ascent vs. Se7en upper bracket final is an absolute clash of Titans

[quote=zfn]Any must-watch games from this event? I haven't had time to watch any yet.[/quote]
Ascent vs. Se7en upper bracket final is an absolute clash of Titans
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#44
21 Frags +
Tanniebring back the rewind 2 ascent squad???
paddie bo4r marmaloo sigh bdonski nursey, they did made se7en got 3rd place.

u mean bring back food poisoning

[quote=Tannie]bring back the rewind 2 ascent squad???
paddie bo4r marmaloo sigh bdonski nursey, they did made se7en got 3rd place.[/quote]
u mean bring back food poisoning
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#45
EssentialsTF
15 Frags +
klassyWanna bump this thread to say that the addition of a crowd microphone would make wonders for the online watching experience. I watched the stream from my hotel room and the lack of noise picked up from the crowd made the grand finals at first glance feel like an online final. If newcomers hear the hype of the crowd during insane moments like Sil's airshot it will probably be easier to distinguish hype moments more easily.

I don't want to say too much before we've had a chance to debrief as staff and as contractors with insomnia but a crowd mic was promised to us and supposedly set up however it was taken away from us building up to the final without a satisfying reason given to me, as head of production. Needless to say I was very disappointed when my audio staff told me this as I know very well that it's an important aspect of having a stage final. Thank you so much for the feedback though we can use every little detail to improve things in the future <3

[quote=klassy]Wanna bump this thread to say that the addition of a crowd microphone would make wonders for the online watching experience. I watched the stream from my hotel room and the lack of noise picked up from the crowd made the grand finals at first glance feel like an online final. If newcomers hear the hype of the crowd during insane moments like Sil's airshot it will probably be easier to distinguish hype moments more easily.[/quote]

I don't want to say too much before we've had a chance to debrief as staff and as contractors with insomnia but a crowd mic was promised to us and supposedly set up however it was taken away from us building up to the final without a satisfying reason given to me, as head of production. Needless to say I was very disappointed when my audio staff told me this as I know very well that it's an important aspect of having a stage final. Thank you so much for the feedback though we can use every little detail to improve things in the future <3
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#46
11 Frags +
rccoonHe has been a cocky bitch ever since he started playing comp. This is nothing new really.

long haired banny barely said anything and was just a little wizard who was really good at tf2

when he cut the locks and sat up straight it all changed

turns out 4 years of 12 year olds telling u ur a god fucks with ur head

[quote=rccoon]
He has been a cocky bitch ever since he started playing comp. This is nothing new really.[/quote]

long haired banny barely said anything and was just a little wizard who was really good at tf2

when he cut the locks and sat up straight it all changed

turns out 4 years of 12 year olds telling u ur a god fucks with ur head
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#47
4 Frags +
ArchRhythmklassyWanna bump this thread to say that the addition of a crowd microphone would make wonders for the online watching experience. I watched the stream from my hotel room and the lack of noise picked up from the crowd made the grand finals at first glance feel like an online final. If newcomers hear the hype of the crowd during insane moments like Sil's airshot it will probably be easier to distinguish hype moments more easily.
I don't want to say too much before we've had a chance to debrief as staff and as contractors with insomnia but a crowd mic was promised to us and supposedly set up however it was taken away from us building up to the final without a satisfying reason given to me, as head of production. Needless to say I was very disappointed when my audio staff told me this as I know very well that it's an important aspect of having a stage final. Thank you so much for the feedback though we can use every little detail to improve things in the future <3

when you say "no satisfying reason" what was the unsatisfying reason they gave you?

[quote=ArchRhythm][quote=klassy]Wanna bump this thread to say that the addition of a crowd microphone would make wonders for the online watching experience. I watched the stream from my hotel room and the lack of noise picked up from the crowd made the grand finals at first glance feel like an online final. If newcomers hear the hype of the crowd during insane moments like Sil's airshot it will probably be easier to distinguish hype moments more easily.[/quote]

I don't want to say too much before we've had a chance to debrief as staff and as contractors with insomnia but a crowd mic was promised to us and supposedly set up however it was taken away from us building up to the final without a satisfying reason given to me, as head of production. Needless to say I was very disappointed when my audio staff told me this as I know very well that it's an important aspect of having a stage final. Thank you so much for the feedback though we can use every little detail to improve things in the future <3[/quote]

when you say "no satisfying reason" what was the unsatisfying reason they gave you?
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#48
EssentialsTF
3 Frags +

That it would've affected communication with the stage, the host microphone audio and the crowd microphone audio were split into two lines so that we wouldn't feed crowd audio back to the stage PA system, it's possible that they decided to use that secondary line to send our comms back to the stage but I'd be very surprised since most of the communication the stage used was wireless, but if it is true then it's very disappointing that they didn't take communication into account since we made such a big deal about it after Copenhagen had pretty decent links between the TF2 production area and the CSGO stage production area. Hopefully we'll get a chance to go over these things and maybe we'll get answers then but it's a shame that crowd audio is still being overlooked by the stage crew like it was at i61.

That it would've affected communication with the stage, the host microphone audio and the crowd microphone audio were split into two lines so that we wouldn't feed crowd audio back to the stage PA system, it's possible that they decided to use that secondary line to send our comms back to the stage but I'd be very surprised since most of the communication the stage used was wireless, but if it is true then it's very disappointing that they didn't take communication into account since we made such a big deal about it after Copenhagen had pretty decent links between the TF2 production area and the CSGO stage production area. Hopefully we'll get a chance to go over these things and maybe we'll get answers then but it's a shame that crowd audio is still being overlooked by the stage crew like it was at i61.
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#49
-21 Frags +
Dr_FezTanniebring back the rewind 2 ascent squad???
paddie bo4r marmaloo sigh bdonski nursey, they did made se7en got 3rd place.
u mean bring back food poisoning

we beat them before the food poisoning though :(

edited out the round robin bit realized it made zero sense

[quote=Dr_Fez][quote=Tannie]bring back the rewind 2 ascent squad???
paddie bo4r marmaloo sigh bdonski nursey, they did made se7en got 3rd place.[/quote]
u mean bring back food poisoning[/quote]

we beat them before the food poisoning though :(

edited out the round robin bit realized it made zero sense
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#50
0 Frags +
ArchRhythmThat it would've affected communication with the stage, the host microphone audio and the crowd microphone audio were split into two lines so that we wouldn't feed crowd audio back to the stage PA system, it's possible that they decided to use that secondary line to send our comms back to the stage but I'd be very surprised since most of the communication the stage used was wireless, but if it is true then it's very disappointing that they didn't take communication into account since we made such a big deal about it after Copenhagen had pretty decent links between the TF2 production area and the CSGO stage production area. Hopefully we'll get a chance to go over these things and maybe we'll get answers then but it's a shame that crowd audio is still being overlooked by the stage crew like it was at i61.

I'm just spitballing from event experience but if the crowd mic audio line is just an XLR run then it'd be the wrong way round to send any audio back to the stage.

[quote=ArchRhythm]That it would've affected communication with the stage, the host microphone audio and the crowd microphone audio were split into two lines so that we wouldn't feed crowd audio back to the stage PA system, it's possible that they decided to use that secondary line to send our comms back to the stage but I'd be very surprised since most of the communication the stage used was wireless, but if it is true then it's very disappointing that they didn't take communication into account since we made such a big deal about it after Copenhagen had pretty decent links between the TF2 production area and the CSGO stage production area. Hopefully we'll get a chance to go over these things and maybe we'll get answers then but it's a shame that crowd audio is still being overlooked by the stage crew like it was at i61.[/quote]

I'm just spitballing from event experience but if the crowd mic audio line is just an XLR run then it'd be the wrong way round to send any audio back to the stage.
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