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#31
Momentum Mod
17 Frags +

5 team invite hype

5 team invite hype
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#32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7KjQrUVJ10

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7KjQrUVJ10[/youtube]
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#33
3 Frags +

I don't necessarily think its the right approach to boycott playing in invite but it's gonna be the reaction from a lot of high IM teams who were iffy for the same reasons you wanted to make a reimbursement program in the first place.

Even if teams are willing to step up if b4nny continues this next season, i'd imagine it's gonna be stressful for players who don't know what the borderline is for aliasing/throwing. If this is done next season, the guidelines need to be much clearer so a situation like this doesn't happen again. (i.e. defining what a "proper alias" is, explaining where they need to be using a consistent alias, what constitutes throwing etc.).

Overall the program you put in place is actually going to drive players away instead of bring them into invite sheerly because of the ambiguity and strictness of your requirements. (Assuming they are only playing invite with the promise of reimbursement)

I don't necessarily think its the right approach to boycott playing in invite but it's gonna be the reaction from a lot of high IM teams who were iffy for the same reasons you wanted to make a reimbursement program in the first place.

Even if teams are willing to step up if b4nny continues this next season, i'd imagine it's gonna be stressful for players who don't know what the borderline is for aliasing/throwing. If this is done next season, the guidelines need to be [i]much clearer[/i] so a situation like this doesn't happen again. (i.e. defining what a "proper alias" is, explaining where they need to be using a consistent alias, what constitutes throwing etc.).

Overall the program you put in place is actually going to drive players away instead of bring them into invite sheerly because of the ambiguity and strictness of your requirements. (Assuming they are only playing invite with the promise of reimbursement)
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#34
cp_granary_pro
5 Frags +

IM and invite basically cost the same

IM and invite basically cost the same
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#35
5 Frags +

Isn't invite cheaper because you get free premium

Isn't invite cheaper because you get free premium
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#36
30 Frags +
Kev777also b4nny said Happycool was fine we asked beforehand and phlps never changed his alias

@b4nny I really don't understand why or how you're responding to any other comments than this one. If this is true, xd. If kev is making this up or stretching the statement, maybe it should be cleared up :D

[quote=Kev777]also b4nny said Happycool was fine we asked beforehand and phlps never changed his alias[/quote]

@b4nny I really don't understand why or how you're responding to any other comments than this one. If this is true, xd. If kev is making this up or stretching the statement, maybe it should be cleared up :D
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#37
20 Frags +

I remember writing the preseason article for Myanimelist and being told to list "Happycool" to go with / follow the "alias in match" rule. If he hasn't changed his ESEA name all season then he's fine. His name everywhere else is irrelevant. What kind of wack shit is this

I remember writing the preseason article for Myanimelist and being told to list "Happycool" to go with / follow the "alias in match" rule. If he hasn't changed his ESEA name all season then he's fine. His name everywhere else is irrelevant. What kind of wack shit is this
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#38
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If mal truly asked b4nny if it was ok to use the name happycool, which has been his esea name for many seasons now, then there is no reason for him to not pay up. I don't see where twitch/discord enter the mix, because he says nothing about anything outside of esea when he wrote his post. The only rule was for matches.

If mal truly asked b4nny if it was ok to use the name happycool, which has been his esea name for many seasons now, then there is no reason for him to not pay up. I don't see where twitch/discord enter the mix, because he says nothing about anything outside of esea when he wrote his post. The only rule was for matches.
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#39
15 Frags +

I don't particularly like half the people on this team (aZn is my homie though) AND I detest aliasing but still this is some major bullshit. This dude has consistently been Happycool for years or at least it feels like years. This is a dumb technicality to stick to in order to not follow through on your promise. You're acting like the worst insurance company that will try to save every penny by shorting their clients.

https://www.strawpoll.me/15341096

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I don't particularly like half the people on this team (aZn is my homie though) AND I detest aliasing but still this is some major bullshit. This dude has consistently been Happycool for years or at least it feels like years. This is a dumb technicality to stick to in order to not follow through on your promise. You're acting like the worst insurance company that will try to save every penny by shorting their clients.

https://www.strawpoll.me/15341096

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#40
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Found banny https://imgur.com/gallery/uwKKw

Found banny https://imgur.com/gallery/uwKKw
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#41
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https://embed.gyazo.com/beafacc2522db7af9298e834c4583dd3.png

truly the face of a great patron

[img]https://embed.gyazo.com/beafacc2522db7af9298e834c4583dd3.png[/img]

truly the face of a great patron
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#42
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DaggerIM and invite basically cost the same

yeah but u dont make any money from invite unless youre good whereas you can make money from im even if u arent good (source: I made money in IM twice)

[quote=Dagger]IM and invite basically cost the same[/quote]

yeah but u dont make any money from invite unless youre good whereas you can make money from im even if u arent good (source: I made money in IM twice)
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#43
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After I made my offer, MAL asked me if Happycool was an acceptable alias. I immediately told them no, seeing as he's known as phlps, no one calls/knows him as Happycool, nor does he use the name Happycool anywhere else, pointing to examples such as his Twitch/TFTV/Discord usernames (again, he literally posted this thread under the name Seniorsoda and listed his own name as phlps, no ties to Happycool anywhere). I told them that he should simply switch his ESEA name to phlps to be eligible or FULLY COMMIT to the name Happycool across the board so that it reflects his "proper" alias. This would likely entail changing aliases on other platforms to Happycool and insisting on people calling him by Happycool to be convincing. For that day only he used the name Happycool on Twitch, asked TFTV to switch his name in the article, etc., so it seemed he was on board with making it consistent. At this point it seemed they would be eligible. Shortly after, however, he disregarded all of that and continued to use other names and never insisted to be referred to as Happycool. This is where they lost eligibility.

I don't know how naive you'd have to be not see that it's just a clear attempt to manipulate me and take advantage of the guidelines without actually following them, all the while displaying a blatant disregard for the professionalism the guidelines stood for in the first place. You may think the guidelines were unfair, but they were not unclear. Instead of simply changing your ESEA name (which would have been completely free and taken you 10 seconds of your time, by the way) you went through the steps of adopting a facade of compliance, proceeded to violate the alias rule across the board, then finally found yourself here wasting even more energy with this tantrum blaming me for your own mistakes. Beg for pity and mobilize your circlejerks all you want. Construct your ultimatums and guilt trips all you want. I'm not falling for it. Anything else you or anyone else decides to do in response to someone breaking those guidelines and losing eligibility is not my responsibility. Own up to your own choices. You cost your teammates here, not me.

For those that have followed the guidelines and will continue to do so in these final days of your season, I applaud you and appreciate your commitment to professionalism at the highest levels of competitive TF2. I will be in touch with you about fulfilling my end of the offer soon.

After I made my offer, MAL asked me if Happycool was an acceptable alias. I immediately told them no, seeing as he's known as phlps, no one calls/knows him as Happycool, nor does he use the name Happycool anywhere else, pointing to examples such as his Twitch/TFTV/Discord usernames (again, he literally posted this thread under the name Seniorsoda and listed his own name as phlps, no ties to Happycool anywhere). I told them that he should simply switch his ESEA name to phlps to be eligible or FULLY COMMIT to the name Happycool across the board so that it reflects his "proper" alias. This would likely entail changing aliases on other platforms to Happycool and insisting on people calling him by Happycool to be convincing. For that day only he used the name Happycool on Twitch, asked TFTV to switch his name in the article, etc., so it seemed he was on board with making it consistent. At this point it seemed they would be eligible. Shortly after, however, he disregarded all of that and continued to use other names and never insisted to be referred to as Happycool. This is where they lost eligibility.

I don't know how naive you'd have to be not see that it's just a clear attempt to manipulate me and take advantage of the guidelines without actually following them, all the while displaying a blatant disregard for the professionalism the guidelines stood for in the first place. You may think the guidelines were unfair, but they were not unclear. Instead of simply changing your ESEA name (which would have been completely free and taken you 10 seconds of your time, by the way) you went through the steps of adopting a facade of compliance, proceeded to violate the alias rule across the board, then finally found yourself here wasting even more energy with this tantrum blaming me for your own mistakes. Beg for pity and mobilize your circlejerks all you want. Construct your ultimatums and guilt trips all you want. I'm not falling for it. Anything else you or anyone else decides to do in response to someone breaking those guidelines and losing eligibility is not my responsibility. Own up to your own choices. You cost your teammates here, not me.

For those that have followed the guidelines and will continue to do so in these final days of your season, I applaud you and appreciate your commitment to professionalism at the highest levels of competitive TF2. I will be in touch with you about fulfilling my end of the offer soon.
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#44
21 Frags +

imagine caring that much about other people's alias

imagine caring that much about other people's alias
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#45
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nazaraimagine caring that much about other people's alias

Imagine caring that much about using an idiotic ESEA alias that you cost your team a free $240.

[quote=nazara]imagine caring that much about other people's alias[/quote]
Imagine caring that much about using an idiotic ESEA alias that you cost your team a free $240.
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#46
27 Frags +
b4nny

Ignore the fact that I used the name Happycool in pugchamp (btw big fan of how you can't change your name on faceit unless you pay), had it changed in the write-up about our team, and used it during the previous two essentials tournaments.

Anyways, it's obvious that you're not going to admit that you made a mistake, so we'll enjoy our season of IM and we'll see you in future invite seasons once we've made our money back :D

[quote=b4nny][/quote]

Ignore the fact that I used the name Happycool in pugchamp (btw big fan of how you can't change your name on faceit unless you pay), had it changed in the write-up about our team, and used it during the previous two essentials tournaments.

Anyways, it's obvious that you're not going to admit that you made a mistake, so we'll enjoy our season of IM and we'll see you in future invite seasons once we've made our money back :D
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#47
Momentum Mod
19 Frags +

MOBILIZE THE CIRCLEJERKS

MOBILIZE THE CIRCLEJERKS
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#48
13 Frags +

Is this what kills invite?
Why not just pay 5/6 players on MAL.

Is this what kills invite?
Why not just pay 5/6 players on MAL.
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#49
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https://i.imgur.com/GzNugXJ.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/GzNugXJ.png[/img]
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#50
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This is complete and utter bs you don't specify "Proper Alias," and because of that, we do not get welfare. What does it matter his alias is not Happy cool on Twitch if he doesn't even stream tf2. This is ridiculous we follow every other guideline 100%. We try our hardest every scrim/match and even when our season is over we play well and don't throw. Does phlps have to be Happy cool on every platform that exists? Also, Safrix didn't get to be kaimo this season because of his guidelines, and now we are all PunOko. I remember convincing b4nny to accept Happycool, and he said phlps need to commit to that in matches and pugchamp.

This is complete and utter bs you don't specify "Proper Alias," and because of that, we do not get welfare. What does it matter his alias is not Happy cool on Twitch if he doesn't even stream tf2. This is ridiculous we follow every other guideline 100%. We try our hardest every scrim/match and even when our season is over we play well and don't throw. Does phlps have to be Happy cool on every platform that exists? Also, Safrix didn't get to be kaimo this season because of his guidelines, and now we are all PunOko. I remember convincing b4nny to accept Happycool, and he said phlps need to commit to that in matches and pugchamp.
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#51
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If you care so much about encouraging a positive attitude in Invite, then prove it by not being such a little bitch over minute details so you can weave yourself out of a promise you made.

If you care so much about encouraging a positive attitude in Invite, then prove it by not being such a little bitch over minute details so you can weave yourself out of a promise you made.
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#52
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PunOko

PunOko
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#53
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First he kills PugChamp (objectively better pug site btw) then he scams a team out of money by pretending he didnt say things that he did

This man has No Limits.

First he kills PugChamp (objectively better pug site btw) then he scams a team out of money by pretending he didnt say things that he did

This man has No Limits.
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#54
22 Frags +

its b4nny's money and i understand that hes trying to invest in tf2, but perhaps b4nny can only refund the other 5 player's fees as they followed through with the deal? i don't like how people feel b4nny owes anyone money, i don't think he out here trying to scam any teams, he benefits from growing the scene like this, he just wants to be consistent.

its b4nny's money and i understand that hes trying to invest in tf2, but perhaps b4nny can only refund the other 5 player's fees as they followed through with the deal? i don't like how people feel b4nny owes anyone money, i don't think he out here trying to scam any teams, he benefits from growing the scene like this, he just wants to be consistent.
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#55
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Us vs B4nny https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/planetoftheapes/images/a/a7/Luca%2C_Grey%2C_Rocket%2C_Koba%2C_Caesar%2C_Maurice%2C_Stone%2C_Ash_%26_Blue_Eyes_on_horseback.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150103192403

Us vs B4nny https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/planetoftheapes/images/a/a7/Luca%2C_Grey%2C_Rocket%2C_Koba%2C_Caesar%2C_Maurice%2C_Stone%2C_Ash_%26_Blue_Eyes_on_horseback.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150103192403
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#56
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All or nothing was part of the deal, also clearly stated from the beginning.

All or nothing was part of the deal, also clearly stated from the beginning.
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#57
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myanimelist BLACK

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/336/829/d28.png

myanimelist BLACK[img]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/336/829/d28.png[/img]
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#58
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when you force safrix not to alias for a whole season then you dont pay him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17-az4wK1Z4

when you force safrix not to alias for a whole season then you dont pay him [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17-az4wK1Z4[/youtube]
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#59
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Why the fuck does having a different name on twitch or fucking tftv mean anything. Banny you are actually fucking retarded my dude.

Why the fuck does having a different name on twitch or fucking tftv mean anything. Banny you are actually fucking retarded my dude.
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#60
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b4nny I told them that he should simply switch his ESEA name to phlps to be eligible or FULLY COMMIT to the name Happycool across the board so that it reflects his "proper" alias. This would likely entail changing aliases on other platforms to Happycool and insisting on people calling him by Happycool to be convincing. For that day only he used the name Happycool on Twitch, asked TFTV to switch his name in the article, etc., so it seemed he was on board with making it consistent. At this point it seemed they would be eligible. Shortly after, however, he disregarded all of that and continued to use other names and never insisted to be referred to as Happycool. This is where they lost eligibility.

He had his name changed on pugchamp to happycool, used it in the faceit cups, and had the tftv article use it as well. Nowhere in the your ambiguous rules does it say anything whatsoever about needing to match with discord, twitch and tftv. You claim he 'disregarded all of that' by continuing to use other names but it's clear that he made a conscious effort to be consistent across the board where it matters: i.e., in esea, faceit tourneys, tftv articles, even pugchamp. What does your discord alias have anything to do with esea league fee reimbursement? The same goes for posting on the tftv forums, and twitch, they are in no way official. Even if they were relevant, do you seriously expect them to be able to read your mind and know that esea/pugchamp/tftv official articles isn't sufficient for a 'proper alias'?

I changed my alias on esea from kkktookmybabyaway even though I've used that alias for literally 4 years, but even still my alias is not the same across the board (tftv forum name is bearodactyl, pugchamp is bear, tftv article just says bear, etc.). There's plenty of other cases where people don't have matching aliases between esea and tftv as well, triplemint for example is tripbwai on esea, trippa on the forums, and trippahaha on pugchamp.

You also say "he never insisted to be referred to as Happycool" despite these efforts he made, do you really expect him to correct every single person in pugs who calls him phlps? My teammate, Pete changed his name from knuckles across the board and plenty of people still call him knuck, is this somehow his fault if he doesn't care to correct it every time? It definitely seems like you are just drawing arbitrary lines to try and get out of paying them.

[quote=b4nny] I told them that he should simply switch his ESEA name to phlps to be eligible or FULLY COMMIT to the name Happycool across the board so that it reflects his "proper" alias. This would likely entail changing aliases on other platforms to Happycool and insisting on people calling him by Happycool to be convincing. For that day only he used the name Happycool on Twitch, asked TFTV to switch his name in the article, etc., so it seemed he was on board with making it consistent. At this point it seemed they would be eligible. [b]Shortly after, however, he disregarded all of that and continued to use other names and never insisted to be referred to as Happycool. This is where they lost eligibility.[/b]
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He had his name changed on pugchamp to happycool, used it in the faceit cups, and had the tftv article use it as well. Nowhere in the your ambiguous rules does it say anything whatsoever about needing to match with discord, twitch and tftv. You claim he 'disregarded all of that' by continuing to use other names but it's clear that he made a conscious effort to be consistent across the board where it matters: i.e., in esea, faceit tourneys, tftv articles, even pugchamp. What does your discord alias have anything to do with esea league fee reimbursement? The same goes for posting on the tftv forums, and twitch, they are in no way official. Even if they were relevant, do you seriously expect them to be able to read your mind and know that esea/pugchamp/tftv official articles isn't sufficient for a 'proper alias'?

I changed my alias on esea from kkktookmybabyaway even though I've used that alias for literally 4 years, but even still my alias is not the same across the board (tftv forum name is bearodactyl, pugchamp is bear, [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/45759/velocity-esports-picks-up-showstopper]tftv article[/url] just says bear, etc.). There's plenty of other cases where people don't have matching aliases between esea and tftv as well, triplemint for example is tripbwai on esea, trippa on the forums, and trippahaha on pugchamp.

You also say "he never insisted to be referred to as Happycool" despite these efforts he made, do you really expect him to correct every single person in pugs who calls him phlps? My teammate, Pete changed his name from knuckles across the board and plenty of people still call him knuck, is this somehow his fault if he doesn't care to correct it every time? It definitely seems like you are just drawing arbitrary lines to try and get out of paying them.
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