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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7WsKby6TIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9bnikqCLkc
https://streamable.com/x3lpvk
he has 10000 hours!
i've seen slemnish do that!
purely coincidence that he has a cheating ban!
purely coincidence hes played with multiple confirmed cheaters!
don't post evidence on a public forum even though evidence has been submitted 2 months ago and playoffs are next week omg!!!
plenty of "non-conclusive" evidence not documented because if i made a compilation of everytime he didn't over/under correct when aiming at soldiers the video would be several hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7WsKby6TIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9bnikqCLkc
https://streamable.com/x3lpvk
he has 10000 hours!
i've seen slemnish do that!
purely coincidence that he has a cheating ban!
purely coincidence hes played with multiple confirmed cheaters!
don't post evidence on a public forum even though evidence has been submitted 2 months ago and playoffs are next week omg!!!
plenty of "non-conclusive" evidence not documented because if i made a compilation of everytime he didn't over/under correct when aiming at soldiers the video would be several hours.
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#2
44 Frags +

I don't see the problem this is just what happens when you study 8 hours a day at The Feno Aim Academy®

I don't see the problem this is just what happens when you study 8 hours a day at The Feno Aim Academy®
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#3
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someone should do a side by side comparison of feno and elijah since im like 99% sure theyre using the same cheat engines.

granted feno is incredibly stupid and didnt even bother to try to hide the cheats

someone should do a side by side comparison of feno and elijah since im like 99% sure theyre using the same cheat engines.

granted feno is incredibly stupid and didnt even bother to try to hide the cheats
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#4
42 Frags +

just indefinitely ban elijah and anyone who plays with him at this point, even though the rgl admins won't do that

just indefinitely ban elijah and anyone who plays with him at this point, even though the rgl admins won't do that
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#5
25 Frags +

very normal non-conclusive stuff, definitely a weird coincidence that you'd find with any good player if you combed thru their demos.

the fucked up thing about it all is this person has actually convinced his friends he's legit. straight up manipulating people he calls his friends into believing the whole "I never cheated in the first place" bit.
I wasn't actively playing when the first ban happened, and I obviously have a bias now competing against him, but after talking with a teammate of his (and friend of mine), it's actually sad how he's manipulated these people that ride for him.
I've TRIED to watch these clips without the predetermined idea that he's cheating (maybe he's reading the soldiers flicking to jump to preaim, maybe he's just young with cracked reaction time, etc), bcus apart of me is rooting for the guy who was nameless a couple years ago to be the next branslam type scout. but MOSTLY because I've talked to people who I'd trust to be unbiased tell me he's legit, and at this point the only way you could believe that (without being in on it, which I genuinely don't think some of these people are) is straight up manipulation. just sad

[url=https://youtu.be/h7WsKby6TIc?t=157]very normal non-conclusive stuff[/url], definitely a weird coincidence that you'd find with any good player if you combed thru their demos.

the fucked up thing about it all is this person has actually convinced his friends he's legit. straight up manipulating people he calls his friends into believing the whole "I never cheated in the first place" bit.
I wasn't actively playing when the first ban happened, and I obviously have a bias now competing against him, but after talking with a teammate of his (and friend of mine), it's actually sad how he's manipulated these people that ride for him.
I've TRIED to watch these clips without the predetermined idea that he's cheating (maybe he's reading the soldiers flicking to jump to preaim, maybe he's just young with cracked reaction time, etc), bcus apart of me is rooting for the guy who was nameless a couple years ago to be the next branslam type scout. but MOSTLY because I've talked to people who I'd trust to be unbiased tell me he's legit, and at this point the only way you could believe that (without being in on it, which I genuinely don't think some of these people are) is straight up manipulation. just sad
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The only difference between Elijah during his ban and Elijah now is he's not doing it on alts ringing for Dylan's pugscrims

The only difference between Elijah during his ban and Elijah now is he's not doing it on alts ringing for Dylan's pugscrims
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#7
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if u think about it all humans are just imperfect aimbots

if u think about it all humans are just imperfect aimbots
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#8
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I understand I come from a position of bias here being the guys teammate, but I will explain my reasoning for why I genuinely don't think Eli is cheating.

For starters, Eli has been cooperating with the anti cheat team since before his ban was even over, he streams all matches, has streamed with both monitor cam and hand cam in the past, and provides his all of his pov demos publicly and to the admins (https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1nKp4M6EH-xtf-cSVWu3GfZmhfkAi63N5). Additionally, he streams himself launching tf2 with his task manager open, and streams his executed programs at the end of each stream. Technically I think its still possible to hide cheats with this, but things like the hand cam, streaming every match, and publicly providing all pov demos are things that are not necessary to do and make it significantly harder to hide cheats.

Also, I think that some of the clips posted by Dippidy are weird, but not necessarily damning at all. Especially considering Eli streams at 30 fps, so frame by frame analysis is not very strong. I think if you took any good or even decent player and analyzed a 30fps replay of a stream vod you would find clips like this. I would encourage you to look at his pov demos (that he provided) of each of those instances and see if they aren't at least mitigated by the extra data. There are even points within the clips that Dippidy shows where he says that "oh that last part looks normal" or "yeah guess thats not as bad as what happens next" (paraphrasing). Given these factors I don't think that there is strong enough evidence that he cheats.

Another thing that has sorta shattered any doubt in my mind is that Eli has told me his intentions to play at the upcoming Philly LAN, and has stated that he will use someone else's config/usb and be playing on a rental. Obviously LAN hasn't happened yet and he could go there and beef and not prove anything, but I think that if someone was cheating, they wouldn't be as eager as he was to play and compete on LAN.

Eli was also grinding pugs/dm during the duration of his ban, so when people say "woah he hasn't played in so long/since his ban and now hes goated!!" sarcastically, it doesn't really hold up.

I just wanna end off by saying that before I was picked up for his team I was skeptical and I looked at a lot of the hackusations being sent out and I genuinely was not convinced of them, and I genuinely looked at the ones Dippidy posted here trying to throw away any bias and could not conclusively say that any of the clips were damning. If someone sends a clip that is stronger/more convincing i will leave the team instantly and disassociate myself from him, but I just haven't been convinced yet.

I understand I come from a position of bias here being the guys teammate, but I will explain my reasoning for why I genuinely don't think Eli is cheating.

For starters, Eli has been cooperating with the anti cheat team since before his ban was even over, he streams all matches, has streamed with both monitor cam and hand cam in the past, and provides his all of his pov demos publicly and to the admins (https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1nKp4M6EH-xtf-cSVWu3GfZmhfkAi63N5). Additionally, he streams himself launching tf2 with his task manager open, and streams his executed programs at the end of each stream. Technically I think its still possible to hide cheats with this, but things like the hand cam, streaming every match, and publicly providing all pov demos are things that are not necessary to do and make it [i]significantly harder[/i] to hide cheats.

Also, I think that some of the clips posted by Dippidy are [i]weird[/i], but not necessarily damning at all. Especially considering Eli streams at 30 fps, so frame by frame analysis is not very strong. I think if you took any good or even decent player and analyzed a 30fps replay of a stream vod you would find clips like this. I would encourage you to look at his pov demos (that he provided) of each of those instances and see if they aren't at least mitigated by the extra data. There are even points within the clips that Dippidy shows where he says that "oh that last part looks normal" or "yeah guess thats not as bad as what happens next" (paraphrasing). Given these factors I don't think that there is strong enough evidence that he cheats.

Another thing that has sorta shattered any doubt in my mind is that Eli has told me his intentions to play at the upcoming Philly LAN, and has stated that he will use someone else's config/usb and be playing on a rental. Obviously LAN hasn't happened yet and he could go there and beef and not prove anything, but I think that if someone was cheating, they wouldn't be as eager as he was to play and compete on LAN.

Eli was also grinding pugs/dm during the duration of his ban, so when people say "woah he hasn't played in so long/since his ban and now hes goated!!" sarcastically, it doesn't really hold up.

I just wanna end off by saying that before I was picked up for his team I was skeptical and I looked at a lot of the hackusations being sent out and I genuinely was not convinced of them, and I genuinely looked at the ones Dippidy posted here trying to throw away any bias and could not conclusively say that any of the clips were damning. If someone sends a clip that is stronger/more convincing i will leave the team instantly and disassociate myself from him, but I just haven't been convinced yet.
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#9
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ReeroEspecially considering Eli streams at 30 fps, so frame by frame analysis is not very strong. I think if you took any good or even decent player and analyzed a 30fps replay of a stream vod you would find clips like this.

did u miss the part where i compare with other 30fps clips

ReeroI would encourage you to look at his pov demos (that he provided) of each of those instances and see if they aren't at least mitigated by the extra data.

don't have access since im not AC just a concerned citizen of the swamp, feel free to post them publically! e: didn't read that portion my bad :~3

ReeroObviously LAN hasn't happened yet and he could go there and beef and not prove anything, but I think that if someone was cheating, they wouldn't be as eager as he was to play and compete on LAN.

he's said this before so gl with that

[quote=Reero]
Especially considering Eli streams at 30 fps, so frame by frame analysis is not very strong. I think if you took any good or even decent player and analyzed a 30fps replay of a stream vod you would find clips like this.
[/quote]
did u miss the part where i compare with other 30fps clips
[quote=Reero]
I would encourage you to look at his pov demos (that he provided) of each of those instances and see if they aren't at least mitigated by the extra data.
[/quote]
don't have access since im not AC just a concerned citizen of the swamp, feel free to post them publically! e: didn't read that portion my bad :~3
[quote=Reero]
Obviously LAN hasn't happened yet and he could go there and beef and not prove anything, but I think that if someone was cheating, they wouldn't be as eager as he was to play and compete on LAN.
[/quote]
he's said this before so gl with that
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#10
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dippidydon't have access since im not AC just a concerned citizen of the swamp, feel free to post them publically!

He posts the demos publicly in his twitch description (and I linked the drive in my post)

[quote=dippidy]
don't have access since im not AC just a concerned citizen of the swamp, feel free to post them publically!
[/quote]
He posts the demos publicly in his twitch description (and I linked the drive in my post)
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#11
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I never said I was going to lan publicly, I wanted to go to the 2022 philly one but they said that I wouldn't be allowed with an rgl ban ( https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326010492567158785/1128186138297909338/2023-07-11_00_48_35-b4nny_-_Discord.png )

I've also had my pov demos publicly available since I've been playing again, I'd like to do any exculpatory thing to prove i'm not cheating, whatever that may be i'm open to suggestions.

I never said I was going to lan publicly, I wanted to go to the 2022 philly one but they said that I wouldn't be allowed with an rgl ban ( https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326010492567158785/1128186138297909338/2023-07-11_00_48_35-b4nny_-_Discord.png )

I've also had my pov demos publicly available since I've been playing again, I'd like to do any exculpatory thing to prove i'm not cheating, whatever that may be i'm open to suggestions.
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#12
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Reerodippidy

https://streamable.com/x3lpvk

[quote=Reero][quote=dippidy]
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https://streamable.com/x3lpvk
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#13
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next can we do sinkarma
ban pls and ty

next can we do sinkarma
ban pls and ty
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#14
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dickers

^ 100% real account and real image fact checked by American patriots: true

[quote=dickers][/quote]
^ 100% real account and real image fact checked by American patriots: true
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#15
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how many of u guys are in a discord channel refreshing this thread together

how many of u guys are in a discord channel refreshing this thread together
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#16
RGL.gg
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wishing I could post on this thread

wishing I could post on this thread
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#17
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didn't he just get unbanned recently too? *nvm 2nd offense cheating bans are permanent on rgl

didn't he just get unbanned recently too? *nvm 2nd offense cheating bans are permanent on rgl
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#18
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dippidyReerodippidyhttps://streamable.com/x3lpvk

jesus fucking christ

[quote=dippidy][quote=Reero][quote=dippidy]
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https://streamable.com/x3lpvk[/quote]
jesus fucking christ
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#19
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lmfao

lmfao
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#20
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He should have never been unbanned. If you are caught cheating in RGL matches you should be banned perma, especially considering how hard it is to get someone banned for cheating in the first place

He should have never been unbanned. If you are caught cheating in RGL matches you should be banned perma, especially considering how hard it is to get someone banned for cheating in the first place
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shootaI never said I was going to lan publicly, I wanted to go to the 2022 philly one but they said that I wouldn't be allowed with an rgl ban ( https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326010492567158785/1128186138297909338/2023-07-11_00_48_35-b4nny_-_Discord.png )

I've also had my pov demos publicly available since I've been playing again, I'd like to do any exculpatory thing to prove i'm not cheating, whatever that may be i'm open to suggestions.

Like going to a LAN and not cheating on a Rental computer would be such a fucking test.

You got caught, not once but a multitude of times. You're a cheater, just put a sign on your refrigerator for your parents to see.

At this point, the players who play on his teams should be ashamed of themselves for being his teammate and the people who scrim/play against him and his team are fucking morons for even playing against a cheater.

[quote=shoota]I never said I was going to lan publicly, I wanted to go to the 2022 philly one but they said that I wouldn't be allowed with an rgl ban ( https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326010492567158785/1128186138297909338/2023-07-11_00_48_35-b4nny_-_Discord.png )

I've also had my pov demos publicly available since I've been playing again, I'd like to do any exculpatory thing to prove i'm not cheating, whatever that may be i'm open to suggestions.[/quote]

Like going to a LAN and not cheating on a Rental computer would be such a fucking test.

You got caught, not once but a multitude of times. You're a cheater, just put a sign on your refrigerator for your parents to see.

At this point, the players who play on his teams should be ashamed of themselves for being his teammate and the people who scrim/play against him and his team are fucking morons for even playing against a cheater.
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#22
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i was kind of on the fence until this clip. getting a kill with the tomislav is just too damning

i was kind of on the fence until [url=https://youtu.be/h7WsKby6TIc?t=153]this clip[/url]. getting a kill with the tomislav is just too damning
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#23
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I have no idea why any amount of cheating is tolerated in comp TF2 or why the consequence for getting caught cheating isn't a permanent ban regardless of what cheats were being used. I genuinely do not understand how that doesn't completely undermine the competitive integrity of the game and I also don't understand the mental gymnastics some people do to defend people who have been caught blatantly cheating before.

I have no idea why any amount of cheating is tolerated in comp TF2 or why the consequence for getting caught cheating isn't a permanent ban regardless of what cheats were being used. I genuinely do not understand how that doesn't completely undermine the competitive integrity of the game and I also don't understand the mental gymnastics some people do to defend people who have been caught blatantly cheating before.
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#24
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crazy how dippidy spent an evening doing more AC work than RGL has in the time since they had to expend all those calories lifting a finger to ban freakshow

crazy how dippidy spent an evening doing more AC work than RGL has in the time since they had to expend all those calories lifting a finger to ban freakshow
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#25
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SpaceCadetthe people who scrim/play against him and his team are fucking morons for even playing against a cheater.

I don't really know what option my team has to not scrimming him. We can just say fuck him he's a cheater, but then we'd just lose cuz no way ac team does anything this season. Coping won't really make rgl act faster or review their rules more, so it's just learning to play against a team where the combo scouts gets 40+ kills every map and just try not to think about if he's legit or not.

[quote=SpaceCadet]
the people who scrim/play against him and his team are fucking morons for even playing against a cheater.[/quote]

I don't really know what option my team has to not scrimming him. We can just say fuck him he's a cheater, but then we'd just lose cuz no way ac team does anything this season. Coping won't really make rgl act faster or review their rules more, so it's just learning to play against a team where the combo scouts gets 40+ kills every map and just try not to think about if he's legit or not.
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#26
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that heavy clip is hilarious its like there's a rubber band connecting the scout and his crosshair

that heavy clip is hilarious its like there's a rubber band connecting the scout and his crosshair
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#27
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Brimstonecrazy how dippidy spent an evening doing more AC work than RGL has in the time since they had to expend all those calories lifting a finger to ban freakshow

pretty sure the AC "team" is just one dude and he focuses on highlander mostly (i could be wrong, thats just from what ive heard)

[quote=Brimstone]crazy how dippidy spent an evening doing more AC work than RGL has in the time since they had to expend all those calories lifting a finger to ban freakshow[/quote]
pretty sure the AC "team" is just one dude and he focuses on highlander mostly (i could be wrong, thats just from what ive heard)
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#28
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he just deleted his vods from >2 months ago within the past few hours

he just deleted his vods from >2 months ago within the past few hours
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#29
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Calling urself a competitive league and then unbanning cheaters lmfao

Calling urself a competitive league and then unbanning cheaters lmfao
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#30
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det-he just deleted his vods from >2 months ago within the past few hours

This is just not true, I haven't deleted any vods. they auto expire. and I believe of the ones that have expired I have most of them on my YT, because I saw this exact issue happening.

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[quote=det-]he just deleted his vods from >2 months ago within the past few hours[/quote]

This is just not true, I haven't deleted any vods. they auto expire. and I believe of the ones that have expired I have most of them on my YT, because I saw this exact issue happening.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326010492567158785/1128213514826301441/5.png

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