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Phoenix Red announces GGtoor Locked (down) & Loaded
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Wiethoofd
January 3, 2021

What better way to start of the new year than with some Team Fortress 2? Phoenix Red, the organizers behind Copenhagen Games and Lockdown Throwdown, are partnering up with GGtoor for the GGtoor Locked (down) & Loaded, taking place on January 30th and 31st.

Following the same format as the most recent cups organized in Europe, the tournament will feature 8 slots for invite teams and the chance for teams from the Open Groups to meet them in the Round of 16 for a shot at the $600 total prize pool. Teams that didn't make their way out of the groups have the ability to sign up for a B-tournament on the Sunday while Invite completes their single elimination playoffs.

Since it is a European cup, the tournament will also be using the most recent ETF2L Season 37 ruleset, plugin settings and whitelist, except for a slight change to the maps, replacing the KotH map Product with Reckoner to end up with 7 5CP maps in the pool. The cup may change plugin use based on future ETF2L decisions.

Players can sign up and find the full info and rules on the Toornament page. They can also hop in the GGtoor Discord to ask any questions. Coverage of all the action will be provided by KritzKast.

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pog

pog
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#2
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put scout speed in please

put scout speed in please
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#3
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600 shadow credits

600 shadow credits
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6000 shadow credits

6000 shadow credits
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whitelist.tf
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charleput scout speed in please

We are still waiting for a reply from ETF2L what their plans are for Season 38 with regards to medic/scout speed and will match their decision, or if the majority of players think that the current setting to disable medic moving at scout speed is unwanted.

[quote=charle]put scout speed in please[/quote]
We are still waiting for a reply from ETF2L what their plans are for Season 38 with regards to medic/scout speed and will match their decision, or if the majority of players think that the current setting to disable medic moving at scout speed is unwanted.
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Wiethoofdcharleput scout speed in pleaseWe are still waiting for a reply from ETF2L what their plans are for Season 38 with regards to medic/scout speed and will match their decision, or if the majority of players think that the current setting to disable medic moving at scout speed is unwanted.

We've already reverted the plugin on pugchamp with the knowledge that the overwhelming majority of players prefer having meds run at scout speed

[quote=Wiethoofd][quote=charle]put scout speed in please[/quote]
We are still waiting for a reply from ETF2L what their plans are for Season 38 with regards to medic/scout speed and will match their decision, or if the majority of players think that the current setting to disable medic moving at scout speed is unwanted.[/quote]

We've already reverted the plugin on pugchamp with the knowledge that the overwhelming majority of players prefer having meds run at scout speed
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lft pocket lol

lft pocket lol
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lft demo>solly

lft demo>solly
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newbie.tf
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can i use my shdwpuppets to buy this crop top

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0364/6678/6363/files/belly_2048x.jpg?v=1605807115

can i use my shdwpuppets to buy this crop top

[img]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0364/6678/6363/files/belly_2048x.jpg?v=1605807115[/img]
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EssentialsTF
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KevinIsPwncan i use my shdwpuppets to buy this crop top

Not as bad as what lives here: https://eshadowgaming.com/branded-merchandise

[quote=KevinIsPwn]can i use my shdwpuppets to buy this crop top[/quote]

Not as bad as what lives here: https://eshadowgaming.com/branded-merchandise
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newbie.tf
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BlackOutJonKevinIsPwncan i use my shdwpuppets to buy this crop top
Not as bad as what lives here: https://eshadowgaming.com/branded-merchandise

sexualized merch is what has been missing from comp tf2 this whole time. we esports babyyyyyyy

[quote=BlackOutJon][quote=KevinIsPwn]can i use my shdwpuppets to buy this crop top[/quote]

Not as bad as what lives here: https://eshadowgaming.com/branded-merchandise[/quote]
sexualized merch is what has been missing from comp tf2 this whole time. we esports babyyyyyyy
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newbie.tf
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Heads up to anyone using this website to redeem your gamer bucks

Passwords seem to be stored as plain text, so have your browser generate a random one & change your other PWs if you already signed up with a re-used one (also don't do that lol)

Heads up to anyone using this website to redeem your gamer bucks

[h][b]Passwords seem to be stored as plain text[/b][/h], so have your browser generate a random one & change your other PWs if you already signed up with a re-used one (also don't do that lol)
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https://i.imgur.com/mZpclhe.png

hit me up if u want more sexy tf2 merch design for ur team. i can make you huge in the scene.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/mZpclhe.png[/img]
hit me up if u want more sexy tf2 merch design for ur team. i can make you huge in the scene.
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Can't wait to buy a Ford with my shadow credits

Can't wait to buy a Ford with my shadow credits
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I've done the math: 1st place team can pool their points together and buy 4 pairs of socks or 1 padded sports bra between everyone.

I can't see anything you can buy for just 1100 points.

I've done the math: 1st place team can pool their points together and buy 4 pairs of socks or 1 padded sports bra between everyone.

I can't see anything you can buy for just 1100 points.
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EssentialsTF
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TurboTabsI've done the math: 1st place team can pool their points together and buy 4 pairs of socks or 1 padded sports bra between everyone.

I can't see anything you can buy for just 1100 points.

The bikini used to be $42, whats the points math mr Turbo?

[quote=TurboTabs]I've done the math: 1st place team can pool their points together and buy 4 pairs of socks or 1 padded sports bra between everyone.

I can't see anything you can buy for just 1100 points.[/quote]

The [url=https://eshadowgaming.com/branded-merchandise]bikini[/url] [url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201029221500/https://shadow-gaming-inc.myshopify.com/collections/all]used[/url] to be $42, whats the points math mr Turbo?
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BlackOutJonTurboTabsI've done the math: 1st place team can pool their points together and buy 4 pairs of socks or 1 padded sports bra between everyone.

I can't see anything you can buy for just 1100 points.

The bikini used to be $42, whats the points math mr Turbo?

100 credits = 1 dollar
6000 = 60 dollar

[quote=BlackOutJon][quote=TurboTabs]I've done the math: 1st place team can pool their points together and buy 4 pairs of socks or 1 padded sports bra between everyone.

I can't see anything you can buy for just 1100 points.[/quote]

The [url=https://eshadowgaming.com/branded-merchandise]bikini[/url] [url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201029221500/https://shadow-gaming-inc.myshopify.com/collections/all]used[/url] to be $42, whats the points math mr Turbo?[/quote]

100 credits = 1 dollar
6000 = 60 dollar
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KritzKast
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KevinIsPwn Passwords seem to be stored as plain text

Have been talking to the site rep. They are keen to point out that passwords are not stored in plain text.

KevinIsPwn have your browser generate a random one & change your other PWs if you already signed up with a re-used one (also don't do that lol)

Sage advice. I use LastPass.

TurboTabs I can't see anything you can buy for just 1100 points.

The points are somewhat irrelevant. This is a site that's willing to sponsor a free-to-enter tournament for a 13 year old game. Not only that but they're giving actual money and the prizepool is higher than most of the other tournaments they've sponsored in 2020.

[quote=KevinIsPwn] [b]Passwords seem to be stored as plain text[/b][/quote]
Have been talking to the site rep. They are keen to point out that passwords are [b]not[/b] stored in plain text.
[quote=KevinIsPwn] have your browser generate a random one & change your other PWs if you already signed up with a re-used one (also don't do that lol)[/quote]
Sage advice. I use LastPass.
[quote=TurboTabs] I can't see anything you can buy for just 1100 points.[/quote]
The points are somewhat irrelevant. This is a site that's willing to sponsor a free-to-enter tournament for a 13 year old game. Not only that but they're giving actual money and the prizepool is higher than most of the other tournaments they've sponsored in 2020.
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newbie.tf
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AgroKevinIsPwn Passwords seem to be stored as plain textHave been talking to the site rep. They are keen to point out that passwords are not stored in plain text.

idk how/why they're serving me my password if it isn't stored in plain text or functionally stored as plain text

https://i.imgur.com/jR8DA6Y.png

the fact that they don't know they're doing something fundamentally wrong here is even more alarming

[quote=Agro][quote=KevinIsPwn] [b]Passwords seem to be stored as plain text[/b][/quote]
Have been talking to the site rep. They are keen to point out that passwords are [b]not[/b] stored in plain text. [/quote]

idk how/why they're serving me my password if it isn't stored in plain text or functionally stored as plain text

[img]https://i.imgur.com/jR8DA6Y.png[/img]

the fact that they don't know they're doing something fundamentally wrong here is even more alarming
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KevinIsPwnAgroKevinIsPwn Passwords seem to be stored as plain textHave been talking to the site rep. They are keen to point out that passwords are not stored in plain text.
idk how/why they're serving me my password if it isn't stored in plain text or functionally stored as plain text

Thanks again. Passwords are currently encrypted but as you say, it isn't best practise to display them in plain text here. They've been pretty grateful for the feedback so far and they're pushing their dev for resolution within 24 hours. If I get word it's been completed before then I'll let you know.

Incidentally I'd be weary about posting your any part of your IP address. IP Geolocation is a thing you should be mindful of.

[quote=KevinIsPwn][quote=Agro][quote=KevinIsPwn] [b]Passwords seem to be stored as plain text[/b][/quote]
Have been talking to the site rep. They are keen to point out that passwords are [b]not[/b] stored in plain text. [/quote]

idk how/why they're serving me my password if it isn't stored in plain text or functionally stored as plain text
[/quote]
Thanks again. Passwords are currently encrypted but as you say, it isn't best practise to display them in plain text here. They've been pretty grateful for the feedback so far and they're pushing their dev for resolution within 24 hours. If I get word it's been completed before then I'll let you know.

Incidentally I'd be weary about posting your any part of your IP address. IP Geolocation is a thing you should be mindful of.
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newbie.tf
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AgroKevinIsPwnAgroKevinIsPwn Passwords seem to be stored as plain textHave been talking to the site rep. They are keen to point out that passwords are not stored in plain text.
idk how/why they're serving me my password if it isn't stored in plain text or functionally stored as plain text
Thanks again. Passwords are currently encrypted but as you say, it isn't best practise to display them in plain text here. They've been pretty grateful for the feedback so far and they're pushing their dev for resolution within 24 hours. If I get word it's been completed before then I'll let you know.

Incidentally I'd be weary about posting your any part of your IP address. IP Geolocation is a thing you should be mindful of.

A) if they are at all able to know what my password is, they aren't storing it as an encrypted hash in any meaningful way. i hope their definition of resolving this is redoing their entire password system rather than just not making it clear to the user their pw's are stored this way. it'd actually be better to leave it as is than just removing the display
B) vpn, dw about ip

[quote=Agro][quote=KevinIsPwn][quote=Agro][quote=KevinIsPwn] [b]Passwords seem to be stored as plain text[/b][/quote]
Have been talking to the site rep. They are keen to point out that passwords are [b]not[/b] stored in plain text. [/quote]

idk how/why they're serving me my password if it isn't stored in plain text or functionally stored as plain text
[/quote]
Thanks again. Passwords are currently encrypted but as you say, it isn't best practise to display them in plain text here. They've been pretty grateful for the feedback so far and they're pushing their dev for resolution within 24 hours. If I get word it's been completed before then I'll let you know.

Incidentally I'd be weary about posting your any part of your IP address. IP Geolocation is a thing you should be mindful of.[/quote]
A) if they are at all able to know what my password is, they aren't storing it as an encrypted hash in any meaningful way. i hope their definition of resolving this is redoing their entire password system rather than just not making it clear to the user their pw's are stored this way. it'd actually be better to leave it as is than [i]just[/i] removing the display
B) vpn, dw about ip
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Put simply, if the website logic can show you the password in plaintext, so can any attacker after compromising the system

Put simply, if the website logic can show you the password in plaintext, so can any attacker after compromising the system
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payload.tf
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AgroThanks again. Passwords are currently encrypted

Not if you can display them. Notice how every other website does not show your password but rather just a change password field.

No, passwords can only be encrypted on the backend, and if ever done on the frontend, is a huge security flaw.

[quote=Agro]
Thanks again. Passwords are currently encrypted [/quote]
Not if you can display them. Notice how every other website does not show your password but rather just a change password field.

No, passwords can only be encrypted on the backend, and if ever done on the frontend, is a huge security flaw.
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eXtelevision
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eXcellent

eXcellent
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Agroit isn't best practise to display them in plain text here. They've been pretty grateful for the feedback so far and they're pushing their dev for resolution within 24 hours. If I get word it's been completed before then I'll let you know.

mate if they're even able to show you your own password then their security is fucked, and whoever set it up likely doesn't know what he's doing. I don't mean to sound like a dick but I seriously hope nobody gives their personal info to this website for a pair of socks, because it's a security breach waiting to happen. Unless you don't care about your address being in some database leak listed next to your steamID.

[quote=Agro]it isn't best practise to display them in plain text here. They've been pretty grateful for the feedback so far and they're pushing their dev for resolution within 24 hours. If I get word it's been completed before then I'll let you know.[/quote]
mate if they're even able to show you your own password then their security is fucked, and whoever set it up likely doesn't know what he's doing. I don't mean to sound like a dick but I seriously hope nobody gives their personal info to this website for a pair of socks, because it's a security breach waiting to happen. Unless you don't care about your address being in some database leak listed next to your steamID.
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Is your data worth 600 shadow credits?

Is your data worth 600 shadow credits?
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tf2pickup.org
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KevinIsPwnHeads up to anyone using this website to redeem your gamer bucks

Passwords seem to be stored as plain text, so have your browser generate a random one & change your other PWs if you already signed up with a re-used one (also don't do that lol)

lol imagine not doing it on ANY site

[quote=KevinIsPwn]Heads up to anyone using this website to redeem your gamer bucks

[h][b]Passwords seem to be stored as plain text[/b][/h], so have your browser generate a random one & change your other PWs if you already signed up with a re-used one (also don't do that lol)[/quote]
lol imagine not doing it on ANY site
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AgroThanks again. Passwords are currently encrypted

Passwords should not be two-way encrypted. Two-way encryption means there is a way to get from the encrypted password to the unencrypted password using a secret key. I would bet my house on these keys being stored on same database as the passwords meaning that anyone who has access to the database has access to the passwords easily. Passwords should be hashed which is a one-way function meaning there is no way to get from the hash to the password.

In addition, the passwords aren't even encrypted before being sent https://prnt.sc/wgpzhw so an eavesdrop attack gives instant access to your password without even needing to decrypt it.

If you have signed up with a password you use on any other site then change it now.

[quote=Agro]
Thanks again. Passwords are currently encrypted
[/quote]

Passwords should not be two-way encrypted. Two-way encryption means there is a way to get from the encrypted password to the unencrypted password using a secret key. I would bet my house on these keys being stored on same database as the passwords meaning that anyone who has access to the database has access to the passwords easily. Passwords should be hashed which is a one-way function meaning there is no way to get from the hash to the password.

In addition, the passwords aren't even encrypted before being sent https://prnt.sc/wgpzhw so an eavesdrop attack gives instant access to your password without even needing to decrypt it.

If you have signed up with a password you use on any other site then change it now.
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Further Digging Makes Me Think This Whole Thing Is Fishy...

Further Digging Makes Me Think This Whole Thing Is Fishy...
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newbie.tf
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supraKevinIsPwnHeads up to anyone using this website to redeem your gamer bucks

Passwords seem to be stored as plain text, so have your browser generate a random one & change your other PWs if you already signed up with a re-used one (also don't do that lol)
lol imagine not doing it on ANY site

Yeah, it's definitely wild that people still don't have this set up yet. That said, it's important to point out specific instances, so that people are encouraged to get it sorted!!

The website is a security mess at the moment, for more reasons than the plaintext pw. I would advise against signing up until they confirm and prove these issues have all been resolved in a post.

[quote=supra][quote=KevinIsPwn]Heads up to anyone using this website to redeem your gamer bucks

[h][b]Passwords seem to be stored as plain text[/b][/h], so have your browser generate a random one & change your other PWs if you already signed up with a re-used one (also don't do that lol)[/quote]
lol imagine not doing it on ANY site[/quote]
Yeah, it's definitely wild that people still don't have this set up yet. That said, it's important to point out specific instances, so that people are encouraged to get it sorted!!

The website is a security mess at the moment, for more reasons than the plaintext pw. I would advise against signing up until they confirm and prove these issues have all been resolved in a post.
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