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ETF2L S37 plugins
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#1
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344141887457722370/754784596322943126/unknown.png

edit:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344141887457722370/754787622991298735/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344141887457722370/754787783385546783/unknown.png

and before anyone completely freaks out, read the part where it says this isn't finalized!!

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344141887457722370/754784596322943126/unknown.png[/img]
edit:
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344141887457722370/754787622991298735/unknown.png[/img]
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344141887457722370/754787783385546783/unknown.png[/img]

and before anyone completely freaks out, read the part where it says this isn't finalized!!
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#2
payload.tf
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imagine not running at scout speed as medic anymore...

imagine not running at scout speed as medic anymore...
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#3
-68 Frags +

Yeah, let's just ban crossbow, make it so scouts can't walk meds out and force medic players to uninstall in the name of making the game more like the glory days when soldier was good :)

Yeah, let's just ban crossbow, make it so scouts can't walk meds out and force medic players to uninstall in the name of making the game more like the glory days when soldier was good :)
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#4
13 Frags +

FAT

FAT
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#5
21 Frags +

wait this is beast

wait this is beast
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#6
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FactsMachineYeah, let's just ban crossbow, make it so scouts can't walk meds out and force medic players to uninstall in the name of making the game more like the glory days when soldier was good :)

don't be so upset! your class just became a whole lot more challenging and interactive!!

[quote=FactsMachine]Yeah, let's just ban crossbow, make it so scouts can't walk meds out and force medic players to uninstall in the name of making the game more like the glory days when soldier was good :)[/quote]
don't be so upset! your class just became a whole lot more challenging and interactive!!
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#7
22 Frags +

OK RGL YOUR TURN

OK RGL YOUR TURN
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#8
5 Frags +

good.

good.
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#9
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FactsMachineYeah, let's just ban crossbow, make it so scouts can't walk meds out and force medic players to uninstall in the name of making the game more like the glory days when soldier was good :)

if ur uninstalling cuz u lost ur get out of jail free card u probably shouldnt be playing medic to begin with

[quote=FactsMachine]Yeah, let's just ban crossbow, make it so scouts can't walk meds out and force medic players to uninstall in the name of making the game more like the glory days when soldier was good :)[/quote]
if ur uninstalling cuz u lost ur get out of jail free card u probably shouldnt be playing medic to begin with
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#10
5 Frags +

good changes maybe scouts in the league will actually end up getting better having to readjust their gameplay to the changes

good changes maybe scouts in the league will actually end up getting better having to readjust their gameplay to the changes
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#11
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i dont get the winger plugin since when could scouts use bonus jump without winger out

i dont get the winger plugin since when could scouts use bonus jump without winger out
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#12
8 Frags +

nice

FactsMachineYeah, let's just ban crossbow, make it so scouts can't walk meds out and force medic players to uninstall in the name of making the game more like the glory days when soldier was good :)

its not banned doe lol

nice
[quote=FactsMachine]Yeah, let's just ban crossbow, make it so scouts can't walk meds out and force medic players to uninstall in the name of making the game more like the glory days when soldier was good :)[/quote]
its not banned doe lol
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#13
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SasukeUchiha_TRADETFi dont get the winger plugin since when could scouts use bonus jump without winger out

since the script allowed you to jump/double jump while switching between scattergun and winger, the winger only being out for fractions of a second

[quote=SasukeUchiha_TRADETF]i dont get the winger plugin since when could scouts use bonus jump without winger out[/quote]

since the script allowed you to jump/double jump while switching between scattergun and winger, the winger only being out for fractions of a second
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#14
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FactsMachineYeah, let's just ban crossbow, make it so scouts can't walk meds out and force medic players to uninstall in the name of making the game more like the glory days when soldier was good :)

cry some more lol

[quote=FactsMachine]Yeah, let's just ban crossbow, make it so scouts can't walk meds out and force medic players to uninstall in the name of making the game more like the glory days when soldier was good :)[/quote]
cry some more lol
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#15
8 Frags +

To say im elated about this would be an understatement

To say im elated about this would be an understatement
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#16
Process/Gullywash Refresh
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Mattheshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344141887457722370/754787783385546783/unknown.png

Gullywash refresh is in the making

Will make a thread a bit before the first version gets released

Currently 40 hours in

;-)

[quote=Matthes]
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344141887457722370/754787783385546783/unknown.png[/img][/quote]

Gullywash refresh is in the making

Will make a thread a bit before the first version gets released

Currently 40 hours in

;-)
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#17
11 Frags +

@collaide please dont ruin every stickytrap on the map like someone did on badlands remake ty

@collaide please dont ruin every stickytrap on the map like someone did on badlands remake ty
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#18
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so etf2l linked these results under prem feedback

https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png

Where the options seem to be whether or not to *test* the plugin, so the test is yeah just throw it on for a season?
Regardless of your actual opinion of the changes, that seems really odd to me, although i may have just missed something.

so etf2l linked these results under prem feedback
[img]https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png[/img]
Where the options seem to be whether or not to *test* the plugin, so the test is yeah just throw it on for a season?
Regardless of your actual opinion of the changes, that seems really odd to me, although i may have just missed something.
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#19
44 Frags +

rahmedigun must learn the ways of old

rahmedigun must learn the ways of old
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#20
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ireso etf2l linked these results under prem feedback
https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png
Where the options seem to be whether or not to *test* the plugin, so the test is yeah just throw it on for a season?
Regardless of your actual opinion of the changes, that seems really odd to me, although i may have just missed something.

So going by this graph, how was the medic attach speed removal approved?

[quote=ire]so etf2l linked these results under prem feedback
[img]https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png[/img]
Where the options seem to be whether or not to *test* the plugin, so the test is yeah just throw it on for a season?
Regardless of your actual opinion of the changes, that seems really odd to me, although i may have just missed something.[/quote]

So going by this graph, how was the medic attach speed removal approved?
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#21
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Gazireso etf2l linked these results under prem feedback
https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png
Where the options seem to be whether or not to *test* the plugin, so the test is yeah just throw it on for a season?
Regardless of your actual opinion of the changes, that seems really odd to me, although i may have just missed something.

So going by this graph, how was the medic attach speed removal approved?

I didn't say it was, I'm pointing out the problem with the graph

[quote=Gaz][quote=ire]so etf2l linked these results under prem feedback
[img]https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png[/img]
Where the options seem to be whether or not to *test* the plugin, so the test is yeah just throw it on for a season?
Regardless of your actual opinion of the changes, that seems really odd to me, although i may have just missed something.[/quote]

So going by this graph, how was the medic attach speed removal approved?[/quote]
I didn't say it was, I'm pointing out the problem with the graph
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#22
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ireso etf2l linked these results under prem feedback
https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png
Where the options seem to be whether or not to *test* the plugin, so the test is yeah just throw it on for a season?
Regardless of your actual opinion of the changes, that seems really odd to me, although i may have just missed something.

Correct because a full season is going to provide the proper playing grounds for this. Our pre season double mixes were only a starting point but not everyone had access to it and it was too late to convince etf2l to change the rules for it. So if every tier can now use said plugins to experiment with something new, the feedback will be greater and can allow for twiku /other people who are cfg savvy to help us continue to experiment with the game.

[quote=ire]so etf2l linked these results under prem feedback
[img]https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png[/img]
Where the options seem to be whether or not to *test* the plugin, so the test is yeah just throw it on for a season?
Regardless of your actual opinion of the changes, that seems really odd to me, although i may have just missed something.[/quote]

Correct because a full season is going to provide the proper playing grounds for this. Our pre season double mixes were only a starting point but not everyone had access to it and it was too late to convince etf2l to change the rules for it. So if every tier can now use said plugins to experiment with something new, the feedback will be greater and can allow for twiku /other people who are cfg savvy to help us continue to experiment with the game.
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#23
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https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png

What's the point of having a vote if you're not going to abide by its outcome? Can someone from ETF2L even explain the logic behind the decision to implement the scout speed change based on this poll, which shows a majority of votes against the plugin?

https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png

What's the point of having a vote if you're not going to abide by its outcome? Can someone from ETF2L even explain the logic behind the decision to implement the scout speed change based on this poll, which shows a majority of votes [i]against[/i] the plugin?
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#24
-5 Frags +

prem players disagree, we gonna do it anyway.

prem players disagree, we gonna do it anyway.
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#25
24 Frags +
Eemeshttps://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png

What's the point of having a vote if you're not going to abide by its outcome? Can someone from ETF2L even explain the logic behind the decision to implement the scout speed change based on this poll, which shows a majority of votes against the plugin?

I'm assuming because the result isn't absolute enough to convince the admins that players would see it as a bad idea.

bluee_prem players disagree, we gonna do it anyway.

From the graph it seems like there are only two or three more prem players against the change than players for the change. It's not as absolute as you make it sound to be.

I myself don't really care as I'm not playing anymore, but it's important to read polls properly.

[quote=Eemes]https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png

What's the point of having a vote if you're not going to abide by its outcome? Can someone from ETF2L even explain the logic behind the decision to implement the scout speed change based on this poll, which shows a majority of votes [i]against[/i] the plugin?[/quote]

I'm assuming because the result isn't absolute enough to convince the admins that players would see it as a bad idea.


[quote=bluee_]prem players disagree, we gonna do it anyway.[/quote]

From the graph it seems like there are only two or three more prem players against the change than players for the change. It's not as absolute as you make it sound to be.

I myself don't really care as I'm not playing anymore, but it's important to read polls properly.
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#26
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OmbrackEemeshttps://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png

What's the point of having a vote if you're not going to abide by its outcome? Can someone from ETF2L even explain the logic behind the decision to implement the scout speed change based on this poll, which shows a majority of votes against the plugin?

I'm assuming because the result isn't absolute enough to convince the admins that players would see it as a bad idea.
bluee_prem players disagree, we gonna do it anyway.
From the graph it seems like there are only two or three more prem players against the change than players for the change. It's not as absolute as you make it sound to be.

I myself don't really care as I'm not playing anymore, but it's important to read polls properly.

Presumably, there was a reason both why ETF2L held the poll and then published the results. What's not clear from the post is by what criteria the decision to implement the plugin was made. Was the poll merely advisory? Did the vote not meet a required threshold for "No" votes to not be implemented? Did the vote matter at all? We don't know.

[quote=Ombrack][quote=Eemes]https://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-13-20_23_18-Window.png

What's the point of having a vote if you're not going to abide by its outcome? Can someone from ETF2L even explain the logic behind the decision to implement the scout speed change based on this poll, which shows a majority of votes [i]against[/i] the plugin?[/quote]

I'm assuming because the result isn't absolute enough to convince the admins that players would see it as a bad idea.


[quote=bluee_]prem players disagree, we gonna do it anyway.[/quote]

From the graph it seems like there are only two or three more prem players against the change than players for the change. It's not as absolute as you make it sound to be.

I myself don't really care as I'm not playing anymore, but it's important to read polls properly.[/quote]

Presumably, there was a reason both why ETF2L held the poll and then published the results. What's not clear from the post is by what criteria the decision to implement the plugin was made. Was the poll merely advisory? Did the vote not meet a required threshold for "No" votes to not be implemented? Did the vote matter at all? We don't know.
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#27
5 Frags +

so, 2 months ago or whatever etf2l said they wanted to do a bunch of test cups with all of these changes. everyone (rightly) asked for a season so the plugin tests got moved into the season instead of cups. im still not convinced by some lines of reasoning theyre using for some of the changes, but if the idea is to test stuff you probably want an overwhelming majority of people saying no.

ive no doubt into the new year there will be more polls about this season that will have their results adhered to.

this is what makes sense in my head but idk anything more than anyone else

so, 2 months ago or whatever etf2l said they wanted to do a bunch of test cups with all of these changes. everyone (rightly) asked for a season so the plugin tests got moved into the season instead of cups. im still not convinced by some lines of reasoning theyre using for some of the changes, but if the idea is to test stuff you probably want an overwhelming majority of people saying no.

ive no doubt into the new year there will be more polls about this season that will have their results adhered to.

this is what makes sense in my head but idk anything more than anyone else
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#28
-4 Frags +

I understand why people want to add some of these, but why do people want to allow projectiles passing through players and have gunboats always apply? Haven't they both been in the game since the beginning?

I understand why people want to add some of these, but why do people want to allow projectiles passing through players and have gunboats always apply? Haven't they both been in the game since the beginning?
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#29
3 Frags +
WackyfireballI understand why people want to add some of these, but why do people want to allow projectiles passing through players and have gunboats always apply? Haven't they both been in the game since the beginning?

Projectiles collide with teammates which can be super annoying
Gunboats don't apply damage reduction on self damage while damaging an enemy
- plugins fix both

Overall I don't mind it being a whole season, but think maybe the medic speed buff should get a weekend cup of it's own, given the mixed opinions on the idea and how much it could affect the gameplay/meta

[quote=Wackyfireball]I understand why people want to add some of these, but why do people want to allow projectiles passing through players and have gunboats always apply? Haven't they both been in the game since the beginning?[/quote]
Projectiles collide with teammates which can be super annoying
Gunboats don't apply damage reduction on self damage while damaging an enemy
- plugins fix both


Overall I don't mind it being a whole season, but think maybe the medic speed buff should get a weekend cup of it's own, given the mixed opinions on the idea and how much it could affect the gameplay/meta
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#30
-6 Frags +
WhipProjectiles collide with teammates which can be super annoying
Gunboats don't apply damage reduction on self damage while damaging an enemy
- plugins fix both

As far as I'm aware and according to the wiki, gunboats aren't suppose to apply when you hit an enemy, why would this be changed if its a not a bug. And doesn't letting projectiles go through allies reduce part of positioning and communication.

[quote=Whip]
Projectiles collide with teammates which can be super annoying
Gunboats don't apply damage reduction on self damage while damaging an enemy
- plugins fix both
[/quote]
As far as I'm aware and according to the wiki, gunboats aren't suppose to apply when you hit an enemy, why would this be changed if its a not a bug. And doesn't letting projectiles go through allies reduce part of positioning and communication.
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