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Remove Clearcut, Add Reckoner
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#1
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Title says it all.
Please take the 6's survey on rgl.gg
Clearcut is a bad map, we can agree on this.
Reckoner is an amazing map, we can agree on this.

Put those votes to work! ty :))))

https://rgl.gg/players/my/survey.aspx?s=19
I think that's the correct link

Title says it all.
Please take the 6's survey on rgl.gg
Clearcut is a bad map, we can agree on this.
Reckoner is an amazing map, we can agree on this.

Put those votes to work! ty :))))

https://rgl.gg/players/my/survey.aspx?s=19
I think that's the correct link
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#2
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add villa

add villa
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#3
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Downvote.

Downvote.
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#4
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highfiveDownvote.

i got you

[quote=highfive]Downvote.[/quote]
i got you
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#5
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add villa

add villa
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#6
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clearcut is better than product

clearcut is better than product
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#7
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remove reckoner add clearcut 2021

remove reckoner add clearcut 2021
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#8
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rickrigatoniclearcut is better than product

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1jbxoPX0AEZnRY.jpg

[quote=rickrigatoni]clearcut is better than product[/quote]

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1jbxoPX0AEZnRY.jpg[/img]
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#9
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just bring back coalplant lol

just bring back coalplant lol
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#10
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make yukon_pro day 853

make yukon_pro day 853
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#11
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make rgl elo and division elo cutoffs public

make rgl elo and division elo cutoffs public
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#12
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reakomake rgl elo and division elo cutoffs public

they dont actually have "elo" at one point 2 or 3 of the admins made a chart of every player, then rated them on a scale from 1-10, even though those admins had no fucking clue how good many of the players were, and randomly rated players they had literally never heard of before. Also, one of the admins (he will not be named cuz thatd be mean) rated himself as a 9 (like low invite) while he was doing averagely on a mid adv team, then rated proven invite players lower than that. Maybe there's some other elo system im not aware of, but i dont think any of the admins actually look at the elo ratings for anything since they were decided so arbitrarily.

edit: guess i got pranked :shrug:

[quote=reako]make rgl elo and division elo cutoffs public[/quote]
they dont actually have "elo" at one point 2 or 3 of the admins made a chart of every player, then rated them on a scale from 1-10, even though those admins had no fucking clue how good many of the players were, and randomly rated players they had literally never heard of before. Also, one of the admins (he will not be named cuz thatd be mean) rated himself as a 9 (like low invite) while he was doing averagely on a mid adv team, then rated proven invite players lower than that. Maybe there's some other elo system im not aware of, but i dont think any of the admins actually look at the elo ratings for anything since they were decided so arbitrarily.

edit: guess i got pranked :shrug:
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#13
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if you dont know what actually goes on with the rating system then dont post anything about it

if you dont know what actually goes on with the rating system then dont post anything about it
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#14
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GrapeJuiceIIIif you dont know what actually goes on with the rating system then dont post anything about it

thats why it should be public

[quote=GrapeJuiceIII]if you dont know what actually goes on with the rating system then dont post anything about it[/quote]
thats why it should be public
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#15
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player ratings are used almost exclusively to place teams and for nothing else. by proxy a player's ratings doesn't really mean anything once you are in the upper half of main or above bc we actually know all of the players by that point and can place their teams w/o needing to rely on the backend numbers. if u frequent this forum there is an almost 100% chance that this applies to u and your rating is irrelevant to any admin activities. we havent been placing player restrictions based on their internal ratings but its an idea we have had that would require better utilization of the system.

also @dbk idk who told you that story or when but you 100% got pranked. not a single rgl admin has or ever was rated above like an 8 max we all suck at the game.

player ratings are used almost exclusively to place teams and for nothing else. by proxy a player's ratings doesn't really mean anything once you are in the upper half of main or above bc we actually know all of the players by that point and can place their teams w/o needing to rely on the backend numbers. if u frequent this forum there is an almost 100% chance that this applies to u and your rating is irrelevant to any admin activities. we havent been placing player restrictions based on their internal ratings but its an idea we have had that would require better utilization of the system.

also @dbk idk who told you that story or when but you 100% got pranked. not a single rgl admin has or ever was rated above like an 8 max we all suck at the game.
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doesnt matter if it's public. its the very very very very first thing done when approximating how good a team will be, and which division to place them in. a lot more happens after players' ratings get updated to determine who gets placed where. as an ex admin who has seen peoples ratings i can tell you that they really truly honest to god dont matter as much as some outsiders think they do

anyways back to discussion about maps for nex t season

[spoiler]doesnt matter if it's public. its the very very very very first thing done when [i]approximating[/i] how good a team will be, and which division to place them in. a lot more happens after players' ratings get updated to determine who gets placed where. as an ex admin who has seen peoples ratings i can tell you that they really truly honest to god dont matter as much as some outsiders think they do[/spoiler]

anyways back to discussion about maps for nex t season
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#17
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why reckoner

why reckoner
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#18
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reckoner sucks

reckoner sucks
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#19
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go play mge if you care about elo

reckoner is an amazing map and clearcut is probably the second worst map ive ever played with the first being cardinal
i would rather play propaganda than clearcut and that says a lot considering how bad propaganda is

go play mge if you care about elo



reckoner is an amazing map and clearcut is probably the second worst map ive ever played with the first being cardinal
i would rather play propaganda than clearcut and that says a lot considering how bad propaganda is
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#20
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I played reckoner in a eu mix like a week ago for the first time in a while, forgot how nicely that map flows. I really don’t know why it gets so much hate, it feels like one of the big 3 (4if u include sunshine) as far as comfort in playability
edit: that’s not tru it flows better than gully lol

I played reckoner in a eu mix like a week ago for the first time in a while, forgot how nicely that map flows. I really don’t know why it gets so much hate, it feels like one of the big 3 (4if u include sunshine) as far as comfort in playability
edit: that’s not tru it flows better than gully lol
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#21
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Badlands

Badlands
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#22
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Reckoner is really good. Big fan of that map. Always enjoyed it on eu.pugchamp

Reckoner is really good. Big fan of that map. Always enjoyed it on eu.pugchamp
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#23
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rickrigatoniclearcut is better than product

It doesn't allow full time sniper. That automatically makes it better. That isn't saying much though. KOTH just inherently blows because it makes the already too powerful and stupid easy scout class even more powerful and easy.

I would be fine with KOTH if RGL implemented a plugin that removed the scout speed medic buff.

[quote=rickrigatoni]clearcut is better than product[/quote]
It doesn't allow full time sniper. That automatically makes it better. That isn't saying much though. KOTH just inherently blows because it makes the already too powerful and stupid easy scout class even more powerful and easy.

I would be fine with KOTH if RGL implemented a plugin that removed the scout speed medic buff.
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#24
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KOTH is good because of constant fighting and makes it so if you don’t have the point you need to push, unlike 5CP maps. I think clearcut is an underrated map and you can do some pretty crazy things on it. That being said it is a flawed map, but so are many other sixes maps. The addition of a second koth map to the pool was a good idea because if you were bad at koth before you could use one ban on it in the invite div and hope to not play a good team that week in any other div. With two koth maps u have to waste two of ur bans in invite and you can’t slide by product week in other divs. Either keep clearcut or get rid of both of the koth maps no other options.

KOTH is good because of constant fighting and makes it so if you don’t have the point you need to push, unlike 5CP maps. I think clearcut is an underrated map and you can do some pretty crazy things on it. That being said it is a flawed map, but so are many other sixes maps. The addition of a second koth map to the pool was a good idea because if you were bad at koth before you could use one ban on it in the invite div and hope to not play a good team that week in any other div. With two koth maps u have to waste two of ur bans in invite and you can’t slide by product week in other divs. Either keep clearcut or get rid of both of the koth maps no other options.
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#25
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-granary
+reckoner

anyone?

-granary
+reckoner

anyone?
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#26
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-Granary
+Villa

-Granary
+Villa
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#27
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the newest version of reckoner (rc6) has opened up a lot of the doors so moving through the map is a lot nicer and it is a lot better than rc4 after fixing the sniper sightlines, the map also flows a lot better with the new b4nny corridor. i hope its in the next etf2l season at least

the newest version of reckoner (rc6) has opened up a lot of the doors so moving through the map is a lot nicer and it is a lot better than rc4 after fixing the sniper sightlines, the map also flows a lot better with the new b4nny corridor. i hope its in the next etf2l season at least
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#28
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lolguys take goes #LGBeasTmode, agree w all those points

still like reckoner doe

lolguys take goes #LGBeasTmode, agree w all those points

still like reckoner doe
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#29
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Agreed with most of the points on here but I will say that just because both via and clearcut are koth maps doesn't mean they are really that similar, via you can get by with a full time sniper and everyone sort of knows the map, whereas clearcut sniper doesn't really work at all. I'd be open to trying reckoner, I actually didn't mind the flow of it playing in sweden (although we sucked at it lol) and pugging in eu on it is fine. Clearcut currently just functions as that one sort of chaos map that most teams haven't practiced, and even more prone to upsets as it's koth.

Also, not sure if this really makes sense (given 8 maps is probably needed for other divs to do weekly maps) but maybe it would be possible to try going back to 9 maps for invite. It made playoffs bans make more sense, currently one team gets an extra ban from the other and is just in a better position. If there were another map it would be equal, only choice is if you are confident in a map to choose first or you want to see how the other team picks and then go from there.

Also I'm assuming this will end up happening already but if it's not planned, RGL should definitely do a survey of team leaders or something to see what the consensus is (also with regards to what maps to add and such)

Agreed with most of the points on here but I will say that just because both via and clearcut are koth maps doesn't mean they are really that similar, via you can get by with a full time sniper and everyone sort of knows the map, whereas clearcut sniper doesn't really work at all. I'd be open to trying reckoner, I actually didn't mind the flow of it playing in sweden (although we sucked at it lol) and pugging in eu on it is fine. Clearcut currently just functions as that one sort of chaos map that most teams haven't practiced, and even more prone to upsets as it's koth.

Also, not sure if this really makes sense (given 8 maps is probably needed for other divs to do weekly maps) but maybe it would be possible to try going back to 9 maps for invite. It made playoffs bans make more sense, currently one team gets an extra ban from the other and is just in a better position. If there were another map it would be equal, only choice is if you are confident in a map to choose first or you want to see how the other team picks and then go from there.

Also I'm assuming this will end up happening already but if it's not planned, RGL should definitely do a survey of team leaders or something to see what the consensus is (also with regards to what maps to add and such)
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#30
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this is where I do my stereotypical "cough logjam cough"

that said, I really do agree - 2 koth or no koth at all. just having the one doesn't make much sense IMO.

this is where I do my stereotypical "cough logjam cough"

that said, I really do agree - 2 koth or no koth at all. just having the one doesn't make much sense IMO.
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