At least on a logistical level from my perspective - it would be difficult.

I edited Logjam specifically to make the clips "pop" - I knew where people would be, what the focus would be, etc. - so it was easy to detail around, etc..

I imagine something similar was true for the other maps. When you add the logistic of people needing good FPS and people using all of the playable space, it becomes much less realistic to actually achieve.

Certainly a gorgeous video though.

w00t w00t let's GO

You're too kind. I think all of Phi's maps are objectively better detailed than anything I've done.

<3

A week or two ago Tyjle approached me about doing a video on cp_logjam. He posted it today, and his production was fantastic. Surprised he didn't post it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8FVbq_yNJI

It's a long video, but it's got the whole history of cp_logjam - it chronicles a lot of the good things and bad things through the years about the map, and should feel familiar to players of old from ETF2L and to those currently in ozfortress.

Again - huge thanks to Tyjle for putting this together!

Oh cool!

wait wut

Seriously though, sounds like a cool deal. Thanks for giving newer maps a shot guys!

logchamp

Thanks again for the feedback and helping me continue to improve the map, all! Glad you chose to run it again. Cheers!

For the huge, six-post-in-a-row-by-the-same-guy moment - here's RC12F.

No screens, mostly minor clipping pass, hole in displacment fixes, adding Rick May's statue outside the playable area, and a few visual upgrades.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sL3_1caHNLxc2utHIwM5u7btTEKy4qLR/view?usp=sharing

It's come to my attention that in my lack of diligence (or, rust for not mapping in a year ish) I fixed and then un-fixed the hole in the cliff you can shoot rockets through.

I will be posting a fixed version prior to whatever season people decide to run this map in. Until then, I will let it sit so people can find any other flaws if they exist.

cp_logjam_rc12

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sgauLaeUPczDoQvxbdNDen5yBxYivmIm/view?usp=sharing

Also available on Steam Workshop!

Changes from rc12pre2:

Changes from rc11:

Screens:

https://i.imgur.com/gWpwZQg.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RazSUsP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sSF7Z57.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xQUE2uA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6ZuPCng.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QitYVGT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JGzWPfK.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5L3am1M.jpg

After some off forum feedback, I present cp_logjam_rc12pre2. It features the yukon style cave/choke combo. This is a playable version with clipping and everything; please test it out and let me know.

If there are no glaring problems or gameplay issues - this will be the real rc12.
(though I do want to up the lighting in red choke, it is still darker than blue side even after I added the lights.)

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19f_j6qXYatDxdMvYnnYuTJrHI1sEeTf3/view?usp=sharing

Changes from RC11:
- Removed cave's connection to mid; made it connect at choke instead
- Increased the size of batts on 2nd considerably to limit vision at the main exit from lobby onto 2nd and help defending at disadvantage
-Slightly decreased the size of the main 2nd lobby exit to limit a sniper sightline

Pictures:

https://i.imgur.com/7leT7gP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PDake7n.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/O4TZYmf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZYeSShG.jpg

OK folks. I have a test version I would like those interested to look at.

It features two different reworked caves (in a VERY rough draft state). I'd like people's opinions on which they think is better. Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ohHzMZFc6k_QU6XSgQRayFD6i6yI-PlU/view?usp=sharing

NOTE: There is no player clipping in this version.

The first is a removal of the section to mid and having cave just wrap back to choke like Yukon almost (blue side):

As well, this side has a larger batts on 2nd, which I think will do regardless.

https://i.imgur.com/w4ZHa5s.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/oouDXlC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4TgHNWs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fbcRpMk.jpg

The second is a "punch through" and widening of the bridge path (red side)

https://i.imgur.com/ibgRweP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dL3mmAY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Jdsfipq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/liIc6Mc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6nFJ32y.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IGWsZST.jpg

heard that there was an RGL map event that logjam was in?

If anyone has anything to say, now's the time. I will put out a new version sometime in the next week or so.

this is where I do my stereotypical "cough logjam cough"

that said, I really do agree - 2 koth or no koth at all. just having the one doesn't make much sense IMO.

This strokes both my TF2 and train itch!

Except he called D&RGW Durango and Rio Grande Western... sigh.

It's Denver. Close enough.

I own them so I will speak to their quality! They are excellent, especially for the price. Used them for OH's on the following demo:

https://soundcloud.com/user-390866905/jbm-demo-heavy-chevy-9-20-2020

Here's a more vintage sounding kit for reference:

https://soundcloud.com/user-390866905/5-10-2019-jimmys-coming-again-just-for-marty?in=user-390866905/sets/tait-start-making-lyrics