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Coalplant.
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#1
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http://etf2l.org/2018/09/02/announcing-season-31/

http://etf2l.org/2018/09/02/announcing-season-31/
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#2
37 Frags +

haha guys lets ᶜᵒᵃˡᵖˡᵃⁿᵗ

haha guys lets ᶜᵒᵃˡᵖˡᵃⁿᵗ
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#3
-1 Frags +

wtf i wanna play etf2l now

wtf i wanna play etf2l now
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#4
0 Frags +

yES

also prolands b6

love u weebs

yES

also prolands b6

love u weebs
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#5
-1 Frags +

prolands b6 is bless but coalplant is retarded rofl. literally a ugc highlander map

prolands b6 is bless but coalplant is retarded rofl. literally a ugc highlander map
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#6
10 Frags +

hl sniper main subs will be in high demand this season

hl sniper main subs will be in high demand this season
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#7
61 Frags +

You are my sunshine, oh cp_sunshine, you make me happy, when maps are grey.
You never know dear, how much I love you, so please don't take my sunshine away...

You are my sunshine, oh cp_sunshine, you make me happy, when maps are grey.
You never know dear, how much I love you, so please don't take my sunshine away...
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#8
8 Frags +

anything is better than cardinal

anything is better than cardinal
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#9
7 Frags +

Why Coalplant? Why not ᵇᵃᵍᵉˡ

Why Coalplant? Why not ᵇᵃᵍᵉˡ
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#10
42 Frags +

Where the FUCK is my Logjam

Where the FUCK is my Logjam
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#11
4 Frags +

we dont have to play cardinal again so im happy

we dont have to play cardinal again so im happy
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#12
-6 Frags +

cringe

cringe
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#13
25 Frags +

lol @ all the people that complain everytime ANY new map gets added.

lol @ all the people that complain everytime ANY new map gets added.
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#14
51 Frags +

imagine a timeline where our normal mappool consisted of like bagel, kalinka, logjam, cardinal, fastlane and maps like that and some guy came up with the idea of showing the community a new map called "cp_process" and people refused to play it cuz it's "cringe" and "shit"

imagine a timeline where our normal mappool consisted of like bagel, kalinka, logjam, cardinal, fastlane and maps like that and some guy came up with the idea of showing the community a new map called "cp_process" and people refused to play it cuz it's "cringe" and "shit"
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#15
5 Frags +
_KermitWhere the FUCK is my Logjam
[quote=_Kermit]Where the FUCK is my Logjam[/quote]
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#16
26 Frags +

that arguement would work alot better if it was any other map than coalplant which isnt new and has been used in etf2l before only to quickly get discarded again (S17, got replaced by turbine lol) and was bound to return in S23 until enough upset by the players made the admins then change their minds and bring back gran instead

so yeah whining might be annoying but its historically sadly the only way to get through to the etf2l admins, esp when decisions like this are being made completely out of left field without previous testing or anything for a map that hasnt even been relevant to 6v6 since 2014. i wasnt around when the map was played so i dont have much of a strong stance here but imo atleast use one of the new koth maps like bagel or synthetic if you already feel inclined to change the mappool without taking the opinion of the playerbase into consideration

and honestly its pretty entertaining to just go through old threads to see reactions from back then http://etf2l.org/2016/01/22/6v6-season-23-powered-by-tt-esports-final-divisions-reminder/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmH7knkWwAA6kYW.jpg

that arguement would work alot better if it was any other map than coalplant which isnt new and has been used in etf2l before only to quickly get discarded again (S17, got replaced by turbine lol) and was bound to return in S23 until enough upset by the players made the admins then change their minds and bring back gran instead

so yeah whining might be annoying but its historically sadly the only way to get through to the etf2l admins, esp when decisions like this are being made completely out of left field without previous testing or anything for a map that hasnt even been relevant to 6v6 since 2014. i wasnt around when the map was played so i dont have much of a strong stance here but imo atleast use one of the new koth maps like bagel or synthetic if you already feel inclined to change the mappool without taking the opinion of the playerbase into consideration

and honestly its pretty entertaining to just go through old threads to see reactions from back then http://etf2l.org/2016/01/22/6v6-season-23-powered-by-tt-esports-final-divisions-reminder/

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmH7knkWwAA6kYW.jpg[/img]
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#17
20 Frags +

Got a global whitelist, cant get a global map pool

Got a global whitelist, cant get a global map pool
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#18
19 Frags +

Wish we'd get Logjam in for a season again. Hyce still wants to work on the map. Having an active map maker who can take the feedback from a season of playtime should get priority here imo.

I get why they chose koth over 5cp, but coalplant's not going anywhere. Logjam can improve a lot more. I'd rather see logjam improve now so it can replace one of the old 5cp maps, and after that ETF2L can look into replacing some 5cp with koth as well.
If koth is slowly going to push out some 5cp maps that'll mean one of the more popular 5cp maps will have to be replaced with Logjam if it is ever tested for a season. That won't happen because people won't want to lose snake/process/gully and we'd lose the opportunity to see Logjam improve

EDIT: Also I don't actually mind them adding coalplant. I actually welcome it. Just wish they'd give active map makers a chance first.
Sunshine was hated for a long time, feedback was given, the map was improved. now people actually like it and want it back. Reckoner, Cardinal and Logjam (and Bagel if whoever made that is still active) have that same potential still so it's actually a shame Cardinal was removed imo.
Would rather see Badlands or Granary go for at least 1 season in favor of a koth map

Wish we'd get Logjam in for a season again. Hyce still wants to work on the map. Having an active map maker who can take the feedback from a season of playtime should get priority here imo.

I get why they chose koth over 5cp, but coalplant's not going anywhere. Logjam can improve a lot more. I'd rather see logjam improve now so it can replace one of the old 5cp maps, and after that ETF2L can look into replacing some 5cp with koth as well.
If koth is slowly going to push out some 5cp maps that'll mean one of the more popular 5cp maps will have to be replaced with Logjam if it is ever tested for a season. That won't happen because people won't want to lose snake/process/gully and we'd lose the opportunity to see Logjam improve

EDIT: Also I don't actually mind them adding coalplant. I actually welcome it. Just wish they'd give active map makers a chance first.
Sunshine was hated for a long time, feedback was given, the map was improved. now people actually like it and want it back. Reckoner, Cardinal and Logjam (and Bagel if whoever made that is still active) have that same potential still so it's actually a shame Cardinal was removed imo.
Would rather see Badlands or Granary go for at least 1 season in favor of a koth map
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#19
23 Frags +

Member of England national team "ISLA" has been working on a new koth map called "koth_deeznuts" it has been playtested by multiple high level EU players. I hope the admins reach out to "ISLA" and ask him about the readiness of this map for the season as it seems far more suitable than "koth_coalplant" for the 6v6 gamemode.

Member of England national team "ISLA" has been working on a new koth map called "koth_deeznuts" it has been playtested by multiple high level EU players. I hope the admins reach out to "ISLA" and ask him about the readiness of this map for the season as it seems far more suitable than "koth_coalplant" for the 6v6 gamemode.
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#20
-3 Frags +
EemesYou are my sunshine, oh cp_sunshine, you make me happy, when maps are grey.
You never know dear, how much I love you, so please don't take my sunshine away...

Sunshine!
Folks get down in cp_sunshine!

[quote=Eemes]You are my sunshine, oh cp_sunshine, you make me happy, when maps are grey.
You never know dear, how much I love you, so please don't take my sunshine away...[/quote]
Sunshine!
Folks get down in cp_sunshine!
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#21
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Coalplant is so much shittier for Sniper than Viaduct. You can literally just jump a Soldier over the roof and land on his face unless he is shutter, in which case, he can only watch the other shutter, and you can jump a Soldier onto bats and juggle him.

It’s harder to rotate from left to right on Coalplant than it is to rotate between China and cliff in Viaduct. You also have much better sight lines on the middle of the point and it’s easier to rotate to the middle of the point when people get aggressive on you.

Bring back Coalplant ESEA!

Coalplant is so much shittier for Sniper than Viaduct. You can literally just jump a Soldier over the roof and land on his face unless he is shutter, in which case, he can only watch the other shutter, and you can jump a Soldier onto bats and juggle him.

It’s harder to rotate from left to right on Coalplant than it is to rotate between China and cliff in Viaduct. You also have much better sight lines on the middle of the point and it’s easier to rotate to the middle of the point when people get aggressive on you.

Bring back Coalplant ESEA!
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#22
26 Frags +

sunshine is better than coalplant and cardinal

sunshine is better than coalplant and cardinal
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#23
16 Frags +
_KermitWhere the FUCK is my Logjam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-crgQGdpZR0

Menachem_KermitWhere the FUCK is my Logjam

ily bb <3

TobWish we'd get Logjam in for a season again. Hyce still wants to work on the map.
Give it another season. Having an active map maker who can take the feedback from a season of playtime should get priority here imo.
I get why they chose koth over 5cp, but coalplant's not going anywhere. Logjam can improve a lot more. I'd rather see logjam improve now so it can replace one of the old 5cp maps, and after that ETF2L can look into replacing some 5cp with koth as well.
If koth is slowly going to push out 5cp that'll mean one of the more popular 5cp maps will have to be replaced with Logjam which won't happen and we'd lose the opportunity to see Logjam improve

Also this. Although I think this was the original reason for Logjam getting a second chance... whatever. If I win the award for "longest developed map that maybe ended up being not an entirely 'steaming pile of balls'" (thanks Kaidus) I'd be happy.

[quote=_Kermit]Where the FUCK is my Logjam[/quote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-crgQGdpZR0

[quote=Menachem][quote=_Kermit]Where the FUCK is my Logjam[/quote][/quote]

ily bb <3

[quote=Tob]Wish we'd get Logjam in for a season again. Hyce still wants to work on the map.
Give it another season. Having an active map maker who can take the feedback from a season of playtime should get priority here imo.
I get why they chose koth over 5cp, but coalplant's not going anywhere. Logjam can improve a lot more. I'd rather see logjam improve now so it can replace one of the old 5cp maps, and after that ETF2L can look into replacing some 5cp with koth as well.
If koth is slowly going to push out 5cp that'll mean one of the more popular 5cp maps will have to be replaced with Logjam which won't happen and we'd lose the opportunity to see Logjam improve[/quote]

Also this. Although I think this was the original reason for Logjam getting a second chance... whatever. If I win the award for "longest developed map that maybe ended up being not an entirely 'steaming pile of balls'" (thanks Kaidus) I'd be happy.
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#24
2 Frags +

Miss metalworks.

Miss metalworks.
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#25
5 Frags +

finally 2 koth maps

finally 2 koth maps
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#26
3 Frags +

This message shows my support to ETF2L admins for finally introducing a second koth map in the rotation. The purpose of a good map pool is to have maps that play differently from each other and this is a step in the good direction!!

This message shows my support to ETF2L admins for finally introducing a second koth map in the rotation. The purpose of a good map pool is to have maps that play differently from each other and this is a step in the good direction!!
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#27
15 Frags +

really doesn't make sense to add a map that isn't being worked on anymore vs maps that could still benefit from feedback in competitive play

really doesn't make sense to add a map that isn't being worked on anymore vs maps that could still benefit from feedback in competitive play
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#28
38 Frags +

how many sunshine deciders do we need to lose to NA before ETF2L realises this map should be a staple

how many sunshine deciders do we need to lose to NA before ETF2L realises this map should be a staple
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#29
5 Frags +

KOTH KOTH KOTH

KOTH KOTH KOTH
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#30
28 Frags +

I wish we could have some kind of voting for maps. It would make way more sense

I wish we could have some kind of voting for maps. It would make way more sense
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