I noticed some conflicting information going around. And some people had also reached out to me because of this, hoping I'd be able to give more info since I was there. I have reached out personally to Roti and Nicky to ask them about things. I've spent my weekend talking to them separately for multiple hours.

I stand by my words I wrote in the first post. I have since learnt more details, and have been able to weed out some of the false rumours and conflicting stories. Do not misinterpret this as muddying the waters: The victim felt uncomfortable and at times unsafe. None of the misinformation originates from them. This entire thing ruined their LAN experience. They are unlikely to go to a LAN again and our community is worse off because of it.

I now disagree with the claim that Nicky and Roti were properly informed they were making someone uncomfortable. The responsibility of this was not on the victim. It was on theirs and the victim's mutual friends. Plenty knew about the situation, yet the biggest effort to communicate was made on day 3 by someone who had partial information and had never talked to them before this. That person is not to blame either. They tried to help, but lacked resources.

In their own eyes they were just trying to navigate a LAN when they lacked a more familiar friend group to hang out with. Had they been communicated to properly, much of this could've been prevented.

The one thing I'd like to correct of my post is where it says "fully preventable".
I no longer think Nicky and Roti were given that possibility.
By failing to communicate with Nicky and Roti, everyone ultimately failed the victim.
Perhaps I'm to blame too

northernlion VODs

The "I'm autistic" excuse doesn't apply when you're at an event where more than half of people attending are also on the spectrum (low estimate). A lot of people interacted w her at LAN. She's very social. Nobody else followed her around to the point of her feeling unsafe.

You guys have a temporary ban (which uberfest isn't even applying lol lmao)
She's never going to another LAN because she no longer feels safe to be around our community.
Notice the asymmetry considering this was fully preventable from your ends and she was not given any agency of how you interacted with her.

Learning to properly interact with others is a skill. One that people can struggle with. I do too.
But when others (often women) feel uncomfortable, unsafe, etc for the sake of some random guys' personal growths, then you fucked up.
You might learn your lesson, but the damage is done and there is no way to reverse it.

You'll survive.

https://www.twitch.tv/firesidecasts/clip/SucculentJollyCiderPogChamp-JJ_tbgMjtMI-SK6y

https://www.twitch.tv/gotaaaki/clip/BraveBumblingCheeseFloof-a1xA7c02Tpp0VH53

Deathy hasn't been active on TFTV in a bit, but he's eternus VI atm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0qNtLuoqE0

The sites themselves aren't the problem (generally)
Public pugs simply attract miserable people. The crowd nobody wants in their dmix servers

Some don't care. They'll feed 24/7
Some care too much. They'll whine whenever things go wrong
Combine the 2 on one team and you get a miserable experience for everyone in the mumble.

So half the team doesn't re-add after the game and pugs are dead for the day.
Eventually you stop altogether because you know who'll also add up and it's not worth it.

The proper solution is to permaban based on vibes if you want it to be public.
The practical solution is to make a private dmix server. It also dies, but you tried I guess.

thank you Roasted Duck on Hot Iron Plate from the Chinese place down the road
I love my friends and videogames
cu@ next

Yea, AI looks bad. And gen AI is shitty for society as a whole.
I can see AMS' theory of it being a shitpost though.
I'd agree with AMS not to take it too seriously.
But I'd definitely disagree on it being better than the previous one

Banning AI pics isn't worth the effort of enforcing.
It looks bad, it's lifeless and it's like wearing a dunce cap.
I'd expect a Streisand Effect if a rule like it were implemented.
I think naming and shaming is a good approach though

Bit of a rant which derails from the OP:

https://i.imgur.com/CTbnItN.png

a hot take perhaps, but TFTV isn't the right place

Imo the right move for TFTV regulars is to drag abusers through the mud until their behavior is all that remains. Nursey, coyo, broking, dashner. Plenty more. Whatever they contributed at some point no longer matters. Now their name only reminds people of one thing

They can change their alias, change communities, but it will follow them whenever someone connects the dots

Taking things seriously inevitably results in people walking on egg shells discussing the situation. Silence is what helps them outrun the consequences. Protect the victims, ridicule the nonces

I've talked about being a victim before in some TFTV thread (it happened before I played TF2). Mostly on a whim. Behind the scenes I was approached by people showing me support. Some were TFTV regulars I'd not talked to prior. It was appreciated, but in reality I already had a social safety net with my close online friends to help me process things. Not all victims have this privilege ofcourse, but TFTV isn't the place to find or create one

I'm struggling to find an old video that was broadcasted during TF2 cast downtime for some time
It was dubbed by Bren and explained the basics of 5cp, uber and player advantages, etc for the newer comp audience

The visuals felt like a shounic video? not much gameplay, but it used the TF2 color palette and simple graphics to explain things

coaching fresh meat

Couple years ago our medic was low as we were pushing out of gully last.
I got spammed, took the river hp. The spam then killed our medic running for the hp himself
I lied and said I got juggled into it. sorry trum