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Ban Pred and Degu
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#211
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Ooh school's out

Ooh school's out
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#212
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Blancsomeone called me gay cock in game can we ban him in EUROPEAN TEAM FORTRESS 2 LEAGUE please

Someone calling you a 'gay cock' once-off in a game does not compare to harassing/insulting an abuse victim, nor to the continuous harassment some members of this community endure for no reason other than their race, gender, orientation or disability. You utter fool.

[quote=Blanc]someone called me gay cock in game can we ban him in EUROPEAN TEAM FORTRESS 2 LEAGUE please[/quote]

Someone calling you a 'gay cock' once-off in a game does not compare to harassing/insulting an abuse victim, nor to the continuous harassment some members of this community endure for no reason other than their race, gender, orientation or disability. You utter fool.
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#213
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WARHURYEAHGlastryLet's ban pred and degu for bad jokes on sexual harrassment, they reeeeeeeaaally deserve it lmao

https://i.imgur.com/gMwYQsx.png

can you point to me where the punchline is?

this fucking thread is the punchline look at the absolute state of everything in here

[quote=WARHURYEAH][quote=Glastry]Let's ban pred and degu for bad jokes on sexual harrassment, they reeeeeeeaaally deserve it lmao

[/quote]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/gMwYQsx.png[/img]

can you point to me where the punchline is?[/quote]
this fucking thread is the punchline look at the absolute state of everything in here
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#214
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LOCK

LOCK
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#215
-21 Frags +

seriously this is not anything resembling a productive conversation this is just people sniping back and forth at eachother like children, all of you are pathetic.

seriously this is not anything resembling a productive conversation this is just people sniping back and forth at eachother like children, all of you are pathetic.
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#216
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smzi/thread so people can atleast preserve some of their dignity

Too late for that.

I've been on the fence about keeping my various bits and pieces going, and it's just not worth it is it? The unchallenged levels of toxic behaviour make it an embarrassment to admit to being involved in comp TF2 now. This seems as good a moment as any to make that decision.

[quote=smzi]/thread so people can atleast preserve some of their dignity[/quote]
Too late for that.

I've been on the fence about keeping my various bits and pieces going, and it's just not worth it is it? The unchallenged levels of toxic behaviour make it an embarrassment to admit to being involved in comp TF2 now. This seems as good a moment as any to make that decision.
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#217
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I think a lot of people have shown their true colours today, I just hope people learn from what's happened here going forward.

I think a lot of people have shown their true colours today, I just hope people learn from what's happened here going forward.
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#218
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get a grip

get a grip
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#219
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im honestly genuinely disappointed - i thought most of this community would know to not act like idiots and to avoid people that do. the fact that we're even having this discussion boggles my mind.

im honestly genuinely disappointed - i thought most of this community would know to not act like idiots and to avoid people that do. the fact that we're even having this discussion boggles my mind.
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#220
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Is pred or degu coming to LAN?

Is pred or degu coming to LAN?
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#221
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AlfieIs pred or degu coming to LAN?

fuck em up alfie

[quote=Alfie]Is pred or degu coming to LAN?[/quote]
fuck em up alfie
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#222
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AlfieIs pred or degu coming to LAN?

THEYRE DONE FOR GET 'EM BOYS

[quote=Alfie]Is pred or degu coming to LAN?[/quote]
THEYRE DONE FOR GET 'EM BOYS
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#223
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LokkoI think a lot of people have shown their true colours today, I just hope people learn from what's happened here going forward.

I mean this has been already well known for most people who play in eu

[quote=Lokko]I think a lot of people have shown their true colours today, I just hope people learn from what's happened here going forward.[/quote]
I mean this has been already well known for most people who play in eu
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#224
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GentlemanJonsmzi/thread so people can atleast preserve some of their dignityToo late for that.

I've been on the fence about keeping my various bits and pieces going, and it's just not worth it is it? The unchallenged levels of toxic behaviour make it an embarrassment to admit to being involved in comp TF2 now. This seems as good a moment as any to make that decision.

why punish the silent majority of frendly tf2 gamers because of the actions of idiots. tf2 comp teams have brought people from all over the world together and appreciate each other and created lasting friendships.

[quote=GentlemanJon][quote=smzi]/thread so people can atleast preserve some of their dignity[/quote]
Too late for that.

I've been on the fence about keeping my various bits and pieces going, and it's just not worth it is it? The unchallenged levels of toxic behaviour make it an embarrassment to admit to being involved in comp TF2 now. This seems as good a moment as any to make that decision.[/quote]

why punish the silent majority of frendly tf2 gamers because of the actions of idiots. tf2 comp teams have brought people from all over the world together and appreciate each other and created lasting friendships.
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#225
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GentlemanJonsmzi/thread so people can atleast preserve some of their dignityToo late for that.

I've been on the fence about keeping my various bits and pieces going, and it's just not worth it is it? The unchallenged levels of toxic behaviour make it an embarrassment to admit to being involved in comp TF2 now. This seems as good a moment as any to make that decision.

Im sorry u feel this way :(
I feel like the majority of the community are nice but the bad eggs are very vocal and stick out

Imo the tf2 community took a huge blow when a lot of the older players left for ow and now it just reeks of teen angst

[quote=GentlemanJon][quote=smzi]/thread so people can atleast preserve some of their dignity[/quote]
Too late for that.

I've been on the fence about keeping my various bits and pieces going, and it's just not worth it is it? The unchallenged levels of toxic behaviour make it an embarrassment to admit to being involved in comp TF2 now. This seems as good a moment as any to make that decision.[/quote]
Im sorry u feel this way :(
I feel like the majority of the community are nice but the bad eggs are very vocal and stick out

Imo the tf2 community took a huge blow when a lot of the older players left for ow and now it just reeks of teen angst
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#226
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sacGentlemanJonsmzi/thread so people can atleast preserve some of their dignityToo late for that.

I've been on the fence about keeping my various bits and pieces going, and it's just not worth it is it? The unchallenged levels of toxic behaviour make it an embarrassment to admit to being involved in comp TF2 now. This seems as good a moment as any to make that decision.

why punish the silent majority of frendly tf2 gamers because of the actions of idiots. tf2 comp teams have brought people from all over the world together and appreciate each other and created lasting friendships.

Because the game is more or less dead as it is anyways. There is ZERO reason or net gain from participating in a situation like this because the stream numbers are shit, the player numbers are shit, the top level of the game is absolutely shit for competition and it seems that more then a few players are ok with being pieces of shit as well.
Nothing is gained and reputation can only be lost, anyone big not leaving at this point is more then questionable.

[quote=sac][quote=GentlemanJon][quote=smzi]/thread so people can atleast preserve some of their dignity[/quote]
Too late for that.

I've been on the fence about keeping my various bits and pieces going, and it's just not worth it is it? The unchallenged levels of toxic behaviour make it an embarrassment to admit to being involved in comp TF2 now. This seems as good a moment as any to make that decision.[/quote]

why punish the silent majority of frendly tf2 gamers because of the actions of idiots. tf2 comp teams have brought people from all over the world together and appreciate each other and created lasting friendships.[/quote]
Because the game is more or less dead as it is anyways. There is ZERO reason or net gain from participating in a situation like this because the stream numbers are shit, the player numbers are shit, the top level of the game is absolutely shit for competition and it seems that more then a few players are ok with being pieces of shit as well.
Nothing is gained and reputation can only be lost, anyone big not leaving at this point is more then questionable.
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#227
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Well games always been dead if u exclude when the stream tab was first added to tf2 and everybody got +100 viewers for a while

Well games always been dead if u exclude when the stream tab was first added to tf2 and everybody got +100 viewers for a while
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#228
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sacwhy punish the silent majority of frendly tf2 gamers because of the actions of idiots. tf2 comp teams have brought people from all over the world together and appreciate each other and created lasting friendships.

The silent majority of tf2 gamers just letting the obvious growth of toxicity within the community happen to the point that most pug services are unplayable to people outside of the circle jerk that dominates it. Perhaps if more people actually spoke out about, if pug/league admins actually did shit about it could improve, but before this point it seemed like nobody actually gave a fuck.

[quote=sac]why punish the silent majority of frendly tf2 gamers because of the actions of idiots. tf2 comp teams have brought people from all over the world together and appreciate each other and created lasting friendships.[/quote]
The silent majority of tf2 gamers just letting the obvious growth of toxicity within the community happen to the point that most pug services are unplayable to people outside of the circle jerk that dominates it. Perhaps if more people actually spoke out about, if pug/league admins actually did shit about it could improve, but before this point it seemed like nobody actually gave a fuck.
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#229
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Pred and degu single handedly finally kill TF2

Pred and degu single handedly finally kill TF2
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#230
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HiipFiresacwhy punish the silent majority of frendly tf2 gamers because of the actions of idiots. tf2 comp teams have brought people from all over the world together and appreciate each other and created lasting friendships.The silent majority of tf2 gamers just letting the obvious growth of toxicity within the community happen to the point that most pug services are unplayable to people outside of the circle jerk that dominates it. Perhaps if more people actually spoke out about, if pug/league admins actually did shit about it could improve, but before this point it seemed like nobody actually gave a fuck.

I see people from all over the tf2 community getting picked in pugs, people i would never speak to in any other circumstance. So to say that we are all a part of a circlejerk is pretty ludicrous. Unless being good at the game is a circlejerk. I do agree that some people could get cooldowns from playing if they are toxic and whatnot.
And maybe most people are silent because they dont care? This thread has turned into the same 20 people posting over and over..

I also like how people are insta-downvoting anything that isnt clearly in favour of their opinion

[quote=HiipFire][quote=sac]why punish the silent majority of frendly tf2 gamers because of the actions of idiots. tf2 comp teams have brought people from all over the world together and appreciate each other and created lasting friendships.[/quote]
The silent majority of tf2 gamers just letting the obvious growth of toxicity within the community happen to the point that most pug services are unplayable to people outside of the circle jerk that dominates it. Perhaps if more people actually spoke out about, if pug/league admins actually did shit about it could improve, but before this point it seemed like nobody actually gave a fuck.[/quote]

I see people from all over the tf2 community getting picked in pugs, people i would never speak to in any other circumstance. So to say that we are all a part of a circlejerk is pretty ludicrous. Unless being good at the game is a circlejerk. I do agree that some people could get cooldowns from playing if they are toxic and whatnot.
And maybe most people are silent because they dont care? This thread has turned into the same 20 people posting over and over..

I also like how people are insta-downvoting anything that isnt clearly in favour of their opinion
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#231
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Pugs are 100% circlejerk most of the time dont kid urself jynxii

Pugs are 100% circlejerk most of the time dont kid urself jynxii
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#232
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From talking to an ETF2L admin it is unlikely they will ban Degu or Pred as they never have got involved when someone competing in ETF2L has got involved on a different website making personal attacks, it isn't their job to Police anything but ETF2L. Ultimately decision remains in the hands of the Head admin Aoshi, he can make the decision to ban them on his own.

Got to remember this website is not the whole of the community same way UGC isn't whole of the community, or ETF2L isn't or ESEA isn't.

Weithoofd said he will try to ban these people from any casting platform he is involved with.

Admins of this site can also act on it if they are obliged too.

Admins of any other platform are able to act also of they are obliged too.

Down to them now isn't it. What Pred said was wrong in my mind and stupid but when you down the road of banning people for what is said on other platforms it is a dangerous precedent to set. Hence why to date, such incidents have not, unless I am mistaken, never been enforced.

With that all said if ETF2L don't reach the desired outcome for people, you are welcome I.am sure to boycott the league in protest, it may have an effect. I doubt many people here actually will, especially if there is prize money on offer.

From talking to an ETF2L admin it is unlikely they will ban Degu or Pred as they never have got involved when someone competing in ETF2L has got involved on a different website making personal attacks, it isn't their job to Police anything but ETF2L. Ultimately decision remains in the hands of the Head admin Aoshi, he can make the decision to ban them on his own.

Got to remember this website is not the whole of the community same way UGC isn't whole of the community, or ETF2L isn't or ESEA isn't.

Weithoofd said he will try to ban these people from any casting platform he is involved with.

Admins of this site can also act on it if they are obliged too.

Admins of any other platform are able to act also of they are obliged too.

Down to them now isn't it. What Pred said was wrong in my mind and stupid but when you down the road of banning people for what is said on other platforms it is a dangerous precedent to set. Hence why to date, such incidents have not, unless I am mistaken, never been enforced.

With that all said if ETF2L don't reach the desired outcome for people, you are welcome I.am sure to boycott the league in protest, it may have an effect. I doubt many people here actually will, especially if there is prize money on offer.
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#233
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Tino_Because the game is more or less dead as it is anyways. There is ZERO reason or net gain from participating in a situation like this because the stream numbers are shit, the player numbers are shit, the top level of the game is absolutely shit for competition and it seems that more then a few players are ok with being pieces of shit as well.
Nothing is gained and reputation can only be lost, anyone big not leaving at this point is more then questionable.

Ive been hearing tf2 is dead since fucking i46. if people can get gathers for natural selection today why is there always this impending doom sign over tf2 even though i meet fresh blood with lots of potential when i play hlpugs and thats the dead gamemode of tf2 apparantly. People who bought into the fake e-sports meme that tf2 would eventually become and put a lot of time in it, may reach to their conclusions over this long time, and i'm ok with being a piece of shit, playing with cool people in my favourite game with no fucking drama whatsoever like hobbits in the shire. I know its just a fraction still playing of the glory days, but lots of games have dedicated communities

Just imagine the impact of "tf2 is dead" being repeated and the demoralizing effect it had on dedicated people who gave up investing their time in it because people kept telling them what they are doing is pointless, why do you think you get exponentially fewer and fewer captains over time. (not saying its the sole reason obviously) but I remember i was so emberassed, so burned out at the scene after being my keenest and seeing the americans beat the crap out of the euros who were so smug and so drunk the night before. So off to a new game with less soul crushing experiences right? Yea, except that i went into dota 2. after a dozen or so "comp" captain mode games where i basically had to play clockwerk each fucking time, i decided i only want to play games with friends, to have fun. and lot of us are that way. So what if b4nnny will never win a 100 million dollar pricepool, we're the super smash melee of fps'es; smelly dirty gamers who enjoy each other making sick fucking plays. Go get a job if you want money LMAO.

pugchamp's design to be exclusive turns out it makes the site exclusive. would love the friend system for medic added in from tf2pickup tbh to avoid shit like spending two hours waiting, going captain to have someone kill the pug for the one that is about to finish so others get to captain and then picks two friends and i get fatkidded for a guy who played one season in open who needed to be subbed later aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[quote=Tino_]
Because the game is more or less dead as it is anyways. There is ZERO reason or net gain from participating in a situation like this because the stream numbers are shit, the player numbers are shit, the top level of the game is absolutely shit for competition and it seems that more then a few players are ok with being pieces of shit as well.
Nothing is gained and reputation can only be lost, anyone big not leaving at this point is more then questionable.[/quote]
Ive been hearing tf2 is dead since fucking i46. if people can get gathers for natural selection today why is there always this impending doom sign over tf2 even though i meet fresh blood with lots of potential when i play hlpugs and thats the dead gamemode of tf2 apparantly. People who bought into the fake e-sports meme that tf2 would eventually become and put a lot of time in it, may reach to their conclusions over this long time, and i'm ok with being a piece of shit, playing with cool people in my favourite game with no fucking drama whatsoever like hobbits in the shire. I know its just a fraction still playing of the glory days, but lots of games have dedicated communities

Just imagine the impact of "tf2 is dead" being repeated and the demoralizing effect it had on dedicated people who gave up investing their time in it because people kept telling them what they are doing is pointless, why do you think you get exponentially fewer and fewer captains over time. (not saying its the sole reason obviously) but I remember i was so emberassed, so burned out at the scene after being my keenest and seeing the americans beat the crap out of the euros who were so smug and so drunk the night before. So off to a new game with less soul crushing experiences right? Yea, except that i went into dota 2. after a dozen or so "comp" captain mode games where i basically had to play clockwerk each fucking time, i decided i only want to play games with friends, to have fun. and lot of us are that way. So what if b4nnny will never win a 100 million dollar pricepool, we're the super smash melee of fps'es; smelly dirty gamers who enjoy each other making sick fucking plays. Go get a job if you want money LMAO.

pugchamp's design to be exclusive turns out it makes the site exclusive. would love the friend system for medic added in from tf2pickup tbh to avoid shit like spending two hours waiting, going captain to have someone kill the pug for the one that is about to finish so others get to captain and then picks two friends and i get fatkidded for a guy who played one season in open who needed to be subbed later aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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#234
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AlfiePred and degu single handedly finally kill TF2

double handed

[quote=Alfie]Pred and degu single handedly finally kill TF2[/quote]
double handed
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#235
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funhaver1998he didnt call me one it was a guy with anime cat profile pic saying 'master.. i love you..'

i'll buy him off you for two goats

[quote=funhaver1998]he didnt call me one it was a guy with anime cat profile pic saying 'master.. i love you..'[/quote]
i'll buy him off you for two goats
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#236
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wat u mean off me? o_0

wat u mean off me? o_0
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#237
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funhaver1998wat u mean off me? o_0

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buy%20off
to free (as from military service) by payment

[quote=funhaver1998]wat u mean off me? o_0[/quote]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buy%20off
to free (as from military service) by payment
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#238
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i dont need it.

anyways lets not let these people distract from the purpose of the god damn thread...

i dont need it.

anyways lets not let these people distract from the purpose of the god damn thread...
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#239
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Also it's worth saying to anyone who says uberchain is just an "attention whore" that these kind of situations, especially ones regarding physical abuse, definitely warrant attention in the first place.

Also it's worth saying to anyone who says uberchain is just an "attention whore" that these kind of situations, especially ones regarding physical abuse, definitely warrant attention in the first place.
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#240
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ReeroAlso it's worth saying to anyone who says uberchain is just an "attention whore" that these kind of situations, especially ones regarding physical abuse, definitely warrant attention in the first place.

What is the twittosphere to do about it anyway? Offer condoleances? It's not gonna change much for her unfortunately

[quote=Reero]Also it's worth saying to anyone who says uberchain is just an "attention whore" that these kind of situations, especially ones regarding physical abuse, definitely warrant attention in the first place.[/quote]
What is the twittosphere to do about it anyway? Offer condoleances? It's not gonna change much for her unfortunately
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