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Ban Pred and Degu
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#241
-2 Frags +
MuukiBumFreezeMuukiimagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attention

but hey you took a bunch of pictures and drew a couple of logos, cool
ur the one shaming the community by you and your circlejerk unanimously deciding its ok to bully someone for speaking out about their sexual abuse
when did i ever say it's okay? stop inserting words into my mouth please. social media platforms and twitch chat are just very poor places to start crying about your personal problems, it's not like im promoting this kind of behaviour

Bum told me to tell you that if you chat anymore shit hell be inserting his fist in your mouth too

[quote=Muuki][quote=BumFreeze][quote=Muuki]imagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attention

but hey you took a bunch of pictures and drew a couple of logos, cool[/quote]
ur the one shaming the community by you and your circlejerk unanimously deciding its ok to bully someone for speaking out about their sexual abuse[/quote]
when did i ever say it's okay? stop inserting words into my mouth please. social media platforms and twitch chat are just very poor places to start crying about your personal problems, it's not like im promoting this kind of behaviour[/quote]

Bum told me to tell you that if you chat anymore shit hell be inserting his fist in your mouth too
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#242
47 Frags +

it's really easy to not be racist or cruel

i honestly have no idea why it's such a hard concept to grasp that it's sometimes better to not say anything at all over expecting everyone has the same humor/viewpoint of you, that's like the definition of a bigot

i have always wondered if tf2 just roped in a lot more sociopaths than other games, because i've been a part of so many different gaming communities and it's a bit silly how such a small community can have so many people attack others for their race, sexual orientation, or even gender

it's really easy to not be racist or cruel

i honestly have no idea why it's such a hard concept to grasp that it's sometimes better to not say anything at all over expecting everyone has the same humor/viewpoint of you, that's like the definition of a bigot

i have always wondered if tf2 just roped in a lot more sociopaths than other games, because i've been a part of so many different gaming communities and it's a bit silly how such a small community can have so many people attack others for their race, sexual orientation, or even gender
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#243
-7 Frags +
SenotsBum told me to tell you that if you chat anymore shit hell be inserting his fist in your mouth too

Making a threat of violence publically like this could never go wrong!

[quote=Senots]Bum told me to tell you that if you chat anymore shit hell be inserting his fist in your mouth too[/quote]
Making a threat of violence publically like this could never go wrong!
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#244
31 Frags +

momma was right
i shouldnt talk to people online

momma was right
i shouldnt talk to people online
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#245
-48 Frags +

tbh this is dumb xD stop whiteknighting she’s just overreacting

tbh this is dumb xD stop whiteknighting she’s just overreacting
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#246
6 Frags +

Like someone else said in this thread, people are showing their true colors on harassment. People should use this thread to judge who doesn't deserve respect as a person, in response to their insensitivity or complicity, thinking that harassment is okay or can be ignored.

https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/1026509761808760832

Like someone else said in this thread, people are showing their true colors on harassment. People should use this thread to judge who doesn't deserve respect as a person, in response to their insensitivity or complicity, thinking that harassment is okay or can be ignored.

https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/1026509761808760832
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#247
47 Frags +

I'd like to remind the thread that if at any point you are trivializing a person's traumatic experiences, or justifying another's racist and bigoted reactions, you should reconsider your thought process and whether you are as in the right as you think you are.

I'd like to remind the thread that if at any point you are trivializing a person's traumatic experiences, or justifying another's racist and bigoted reactions, you should reconsider your thought process and whether you are as in the right as you think you are.
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#248
32 Frags +

I like uberchain don't be mean to her.

I like uberchain don't be mean to her.
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#249
22 Frags +
sam11tbh this is dumb xD stop whiteknighting she’s just overreacting

Refer back to posts like this when you wonder why pretending to be a moron still isn’t funny.

[quote=sam11]tbh this is dumb xD stop whiteknighting she’s just overreacting[/quote]
Refer back to posts like this when you wonder why pretending to be a moron still isn’t funny.
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#250
4 Frags +

lol if this is what "kills" tf2 it deserves to die. the fact is that this type of toxic environment has been festering for so long, and if trying to change it destroys the community, maybe this community isn't worth it.

lol if this is what "kills" tf2 it deserves to die. the fact is that this type of toxic environment has been festering for so long, and if trying to change it destroys the community, maybe this community isn't worth it.
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#251
-19 Frags +

Uberchain deserved nothing that happened to her, no woman or girl deserves any form of sexual misconduct direct towards them. But Pred and Degu haven't done anything wrong, if we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. I am by no means defending these two players, but if these players are banned, what would be the reason?

Think about it, ETF2L has nothing to do with twitter and these players are not under contract, if they get banned from ETF2L then there is a more authoritarian stance behind it. These players did an awful thing, no one is denying that, but that doesn't give the community the right to "lynch mob" and get these players removed from the community.

Uberchain deserved nothing that happened to her, no woman or girl deserves any form of sexual misconduct direct towards them. But Pred and Degu haven't done anything wrong, if we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. I am by no means defending these two players, but if these players are banned, what would be the reason?

Think about it, ETF2L has nothing to do with twitter and these players are not under contract, if they get banned from ETF2L then there is a more authoritarian stance behind it. These players did an awful thing, no one is denying that, but that doesn't give the community the right to "lynch mob" and get these players removed from the community.
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#252
23 Frags +

remember when pred played that one official that was being streamed with #racerealism in his nickname? or, you know, multiple occasions of people in twitch chat joking around with racial slurs and whatnot

Ombrackwhy are people discovering today that some part of this community is aids ? this baffles me

havent yet read the whole thread but i srs hope at one point a pugchamp ban has been discussed for the lads in question

remember when pred played that one official that was being streamed with #racerealism in his nickname? or, you know, multiple occasions of people in twitch chat joking around with racial slurs and whatnot

[quote=Ombrack]why are people discovering today that some part of this community is aids ? this baffles me[/quote]

havent yet read the whole thread but i srs hope at one point a pugchamp ban has been discussed for the lads in question
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#253
-8 Frags +

What about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them??

what they said was fucked im not denying that but EVERYONE gets fucked with and now cause a girl gets fucked with we wanna ban everyone???

Habib was literally calling froot a tranny on stream out of anger did anyone jump to her defense?

What about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them??

what they said was fucked im not denying that but EVERYONE gets fucked with and now cause a girl gets fucked with we wanna ban everyone???

Habib was literally calling froot a tranny on stream out of anger did anyone jump to her defense?
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#254
17 Frags +
wruremember when pred played that one official that was being streamed with #racerealism in his nickname? or, you know, multiple occasions of people in twitch chat joking around with racial slurs and whatnot

Remember when Degu tagged up as bin.NGR during a cast official? People usually take note of it like once then forget about it because they don't think it's that big a deal until someone starts posting charts and citing sources on why one skin color is inferior to everything else.

[quote=wru]remember when pred played that one official that was being streamed with #racerealism in his nickname? or, you know, multiple occasions of people in twitch chat joking around with racial slurs and whatnot
[/quote]
Remember when Degu tagged up as bin.NGR during a cast official? People usually take note of it like once then forget about it because they don't think it's that big a deal until someone starts posting charts and citing sources on why one skin color is inferior to everything else.
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#255
62 Frags +

Not surprised to learn a good portion of the nunya guys are as shitty as they first seemed.

Not surprised to learn a good portion of the nunya guys are as shitty as they first seemed.
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#256
17 Frags +

Theres no place for racists in this community, its for everyone.

Theres no place for racists in this community, its for everyone.
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#257
1 Frags +
DesonatorTheres no place for racists in this community, its for everyone.

you guys have no morals whatsoever!!

[quote=Desonator]Theres no place for racists in this community, its for everyone.[/quote]
you guys have no morals whatsoever!!
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#258
30 Frags +
mad_dog
Habib was literally calling froot a tranny on stream out of anger did anyone jump to her defense?

Oh no ...

[quote=mad_dog]

Habib was literally calling froot a tranny on stream out of anger did anyone jump to her defense?[/quote]
Oh no ...
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#259
-25 Frags +
DesonatorTheres no place for racists in this community, its for everyone.

Are racists not people too?

[quote=Desonator]Theres no place for racists in this community, its for everyone.[/quote]

Are racists not people too?
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#260
31 Frags +
Makyif we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. mad_dogWhat about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them??

thank you both for these excellent suggestions. yes. ban hammer

[quote=Maky]if we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. [/quote]

[quote=mad_dog]What about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them?? [/quote]

thank you both for these excellent suggestions. yes. ban hammer
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#261
0 Frags +
MakyDesonatorTheres no place for racists in this community, its for everyone.
Are racists not people too?

They're not. There you go.

You know damn well what's implied here man. Don't nitpick about this shit.

[quote=Maky][quote=Desonator]Theres no place for racists in this community, its for everyone.[/quote]

Are racists not people too?[/quote]

They're not. There you go.

You know damn well what's implied here man. Don't nitpick about this shit.
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#262
13 Frags +
mad_dogWhat about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them??

Warnings at the very least. Bans more than welcome imo but we'll leave that to the admins to decide.

mad_dogwhat they said was fucked im not denying that but EVERYONE gets fucked with and now cause a girl gets fucked with we wanna ban everyone???

Sure dude everyone gets sexually abused all the time and then harassed for it that's completely normal haha. You've not been following what's been happening clearly so I'll just forget I ever read this.

mad_dogHabib was literally calling froot a tranny on stream out of anger did anyone jump to her defense?

I hope so.

[quote=mad_dog]What about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them??[/quote]
Warnings at the very least. Bans more than welcome imo but we'll leave that to the admins to decide.

[quote=mad_dog]what they said was fucked im not denying that but EVERYONE gets fucked with and now cause a girl gets fucked with we wanna ban everyone???[/quote]
Sure dude everyone gets sexually abused all the time and then harassed for it that's completely normal haha. You've not been following what's been happening clearly so I'll just forget I ever read this.

[quote=mad_dog]Habib was literally calling froot a tranny on stream out of anger did anyone jump to her defense?[/quote]
I hope so.
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#263
64 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/Zl6PWDo.png
https://i.imgur.com/WieaPPG.png
what does se7en think of using these kinds of racist players like credu in their games ????

https://i.imgur.com/Zl6PWDo.png
https://i.imgur.com/WieaPPG.png
what does se7en think of using these kinds of racist players like credu in their games ????
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#264
-3 Frags +
Azazel-Makyif we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. mad_dogWhat about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them??
thank you both for these excellent suggestions. yes. ban hammer

The narrative that we can just ban people because they think differently, needs to stop. Just because I have a differing opinion then you doesn't mean you have the right to ban me or anyone else.

[quote=Azazel-][quote=Maky]if we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. [/quote]

[quote=mad_dog]What about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them?? [/quote]

thank you both for these excellent suggestions. yes. ban hammer[/quote]

The narrative that we can just ban people because they think differently, needs to stop. Just because I have a differing opinion then you doesn't mean you have the right to ban me or anyone else.
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#265
21 Frags +

honestly some people in the tf2 community need to be eradicated, like where the fuck has their basic human decency gone?

honestly some people in the tf2 community need to be eradicated, like where the fuck has their basic human decency gone?
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#266
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puistokemistihttps://i.imgur.com/Zl6PWDo.png
https://i.imgur.com/WieaPPG.png
what does se7en think of using these kinds of racist players like credu in their games ????

aren't you part of that finnish circlejerk who calls people the n-word in scrims

[quote=puistokemisti]https://i.imgur.com/Zl6PWDo.png
https://i.imgur.com/WieaPPG.png
what does se7en think of using these kinds of racist players like credu in their games ????[/quote]
aren't you part of that finnish circlejerk who calls people the n-word in scrims
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#267
27 Frags +
MakyAzazel-Makyif we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. mad_dogWhat about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them??
thank you both for these excellent suggestions. yes. ban hammer

The narrative that we can just ban people because they think differently, needs to stop. Just because I have a differing opinion then you doesn't mean you have the right to ban me or anyone else.

Well actually everything done in TF2 is a private service, so yeah, we kinda can just ban anyone for any reason.

[quote=Maky][quote=Azazel-][quote=Maky]if we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. [/quote]

[quote=mad_dog]What about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them?? [/quote]

thank you both for these excellent suggestions. yes. ban hammer[/quote]

The narrative that we can just ban people because they think differently, needs to stop. Just because I have a differing opinion then you doesn't mean you have the right to ban me or anyone else.[/quote]


Well actually everything done in TF2 is a private service, so yeah, we kinda can just ban anyone for any reason.
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#268
3 Frags +
MakyAzazel-Makyif we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. mad_dogWhat about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them??
thank you both for these excellent suggestions. yes. ban hammer

The narrative that we can just ban people because they think differently, needs to stop. Just because I have a differing opinion then you doesn't mean you have the right to ban me or anyone else.

There's a massive difference between people having a different opinion on matters regarding anything ranging from gender, race and sexuality and people flat-out doing their best to harass and ostricize people of certain races, genders and sexualities from the community.

[quote=Maky][quote=Azazel-][quote=Maky]if we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. [/quote]

[quote=mad_dog]What about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them?? [/quote]

thank you both for these excellent suggestions. yes. ban hammer[/quote]

The narrative that we can just ban people because they think differently, needs to stop. Just because I have a differing opinion then you doesn't mean you have the right to ban me or anyone else.[/quote]

There's a massive difference between people having a different opinion on matters regarding anything ranging from gender, race and sexuality and people flat-out doing their best to harass and ostricize people of certain races, genders and sexualities from the community.
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#269
20 Frags +
HiipFirepuistokemistihttps://i.imgur.com/Zl6PWDo.png
https://i.imgur.com/WieaPPG.png
what does se7en think of using these kinds of racist players like credu in their games ????
aren't you part of that finnish circlejerk who calls people the n-word in scrims

Its irrelevant what he thinks, address his argument not his character please.

[quote=HiipFire][quote=puistokemisti]https://i.imgur.com/Zl6PWDo.png
https://i.imgur.com/WieaPPG.png
what does se7en think of using these kinds of racist players like credu in their games ????[/quote]
aren't you part of that finnish circlejerk who calls people the n-word in scrims[/quote]
Its irrelevant what he thinks, address his argument not his character please.
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#270
4 Frags +
MakyAzazel-Makyif we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. mad_dogWhat about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them??
thank you both for these excellent suggestions. yes. ban hammer

The narrative that we can just ban people because they think differently, needs to stop. Just because I have a differing opinion then you doesn't mean you have the right to ban me or anyone else.

Disregarding the whole context, if you act in a way an admin of a league youre in sees an unacceptable he can very well ban you, yes.
Its basically the foundation of everything, theres rules that the people who run the league make and just because you think differently about a rule you cant ignore it and expect to not be excluded from the league.
Now ofc thinking differently doesnt get you banned, but acting does.

[quote=Maky][quote=Azazel-][quote=Maky]if we start banning players who said dumb and sexist things, then many members of the community, including myself, would be banned. [/quote]

[quote=mad_dog]What about all the people saying the N word? should we ban them?? [/quote]

thank you both for these excellent suggestions. yes. ban hammer[/quote]

The narrative that we can just ban people because they think differently, needs to stop. Just because I have a differing opinion then you doesn't mean you have the right to ban me or anyone else.[/quote]
Disregarding the whole context, if you act in a way an admin of a league youre in sees an unacceptable he can very well ban you, yes.
Its basically the foundation of everything, theres rules that the people who run the league make and just because you think differently about a rule you cant ignore it and expect to not be excluded from the league.
Now ofc thinking differently doesnt get you banned, but acting does.
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