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The 120Hz Monitor Thread
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definitelynotshrikeI'm looking for a 1080p 144hz monitor with minimal input lag.
What's good now? Are the recomended monitors still the ones Comanglia listed?
Where do people buy from in Australia? I couldn't find any Australian retailers for the BenQs in his list.

https://www.mwave.com.au/

[quote=definitelynotshrike]I'm looking for a 1080p 144hz monitor with minimal input lag.
What's good now? Are the recomended monitors still the ones Comanglia listed?
Where do people buy from in Australia? I couldn't find any Australian retailers for the BenQs in his list.[/quote]
https://www.mwave.com.au/
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#452
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Any suggestions for a monitor that meets or comes close to the following criteria?

120hz+
Around 24 inch
Not terrible colors (semi optional)
Preferably with vesa mounting options
Around a 250$ budget

Looking for a second monitor but need high hz due to issues listed in this thread. So it doesn't need to be super high performance but something decent so I have a solid backup incase my primary monitor fails or I can lend to people would be nice.

Any suggestions for a monitor that meets or comes close to the following criteria?

120hz+
Around 24 inch
Not terrible colors (semi optional)
Preferably with vesa mounting options
Around a 250$ budget

Looking for a second monitor but need high hz due to issues listed in [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/41379/dual-monitor-issue#7]this[/url] thread. So it doesn't need to be super high performance but something decent so I have a solid backup incase my primary monitor fails or I can lend to people would be nice.
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#453
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For the ASUS VG248QE

What settings do you guys use for Sharpness and Trace Free?

For the ASUS VG248QE

What settings do you guys use for Sharpness and Trace Free?
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#454
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I have a dual monitor setup and sometimes when i move the mouse to the left fast while playing, i lose focus from the game since i guess the mouse technically moves to the left screen
how can i stop this from happening?

I have a dual monitor setup and sometimes when i move the mouse to the left fast while playing, i lose focus from the game since i guess the mouse technically moves to the left screen
how can i stop this from happening?
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#455
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yo im planning on picking up a 120/144hz monitor. im looking at this 1 specifically
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014575&ignorebbr=1
anyone else own it and have any gripes with it etc?

yo im planning on picking up a 120/144hz monitor. im looking at this 1 specifically
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014575&ignorebbr=1
anyone else own it and have any gripes with it etc?
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#456
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I don't know if this is dead, since the last comments answering stuff are from too long ago, but maybe I can get some answers from Setsul (or anyone else who knows more than me):

- I'm thinking about getting a new monitor soon. What are the recommended ones nowadays? I personally don't care too much about color fidelity since I'm colorblind and I already have a monitor which will probably be better than most 144hzs at it. I'm looking at the 250€ range (could maybe go a little higher if it's worth it).

- I don't mind having to configure the monitor myself (I've heard the xl2411z is pretty popular even though you have to install drivers and set it up). However, I'd prefer it if I could do the same thing in both Windows and Linux (Debian in particular).

- Is the FreeSync/G-Sync situation still the same? I already have a 1060 and I'm not planning to get rid of it anytime soon, so FreeSync is worthless. Should I look into G-Sync monitors or is it still not worth it?

- Anything else I should know that has changed/is about to come out/etc?

I don't know if this is dead, since the last comments answering stuff are from too long ago, but maybe I can get some answers from Setsul (or anyone else who knows more than me):

- I'm thinking about getting a new monitor soon. What are the recommended ones nowadays? I personally don't care too much about color fidelity since I'm colorblind and I already have a monitor which will probably be better than most 144hzs at it. I'm looking at the 250€ range (could maybe go a little higher if it's worth it).

- I don't mind having to configure the monitor myself (I've heard the xl2411z is pretty popular even though you have to install drivers and set it up). However, I'd prefer it if I could do the same thing in both Windows and Linux (Debian in particular).

- Is the FreeSync/G-Sync situation still the same? I already have a 1060 and I'm not planning to get rid of it anytime soon, so FreeSync is worthless. Should I look into G-Sync monitors or is it still not worth it?

- Anything else I should know that has changed/is about to come out/etc?
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#457
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Now that's a valid reason to not care about colours if I've ever seen one.

G-Sync/ULMB should work on Linux, the BenQ Motion Blur Reduction Utility won't, iirc.

Yes, nVidia is still blocking adaptive Sync / FreeSync.

Fps < refresh rate -> G-Sync is nice.
Fps > refresh rate -> G-Sync does nothing.

Now that's a valid reason to not care about colours if I've ever seen one.

G-Sync/ULMB should work on Linux, the BenQ Motion Blur Reduction Utility won't, iirc.

Yes, nVidia is still blocking adaptive Sync / FreeSync.

Fps < refresh rate -> G-Sync is nice.
Fps > refresh rate -> G-Sync does nothing.
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#458
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CapuI don't know if this is dead, since the last comments answering stuff are from too long ago, but maybe I can get some answers from Setsul (or anyone else who knows more than me):

- I'm thinking about getting a new monitor soon. What are the recommended ones nowadays? I personally don't care too much about color fidelity since I'm colorblind and I already have a monitor which will probably be better than most 144hzs at it. I'm looking at the 250€ range (could maybe go a little higher if it's worth it).

- I don't mind having to configure the monitor myself (I've heard the xl2411z is pretty popular even though you have to install drivers and set it up). However, I'd prefer it if I could do the same thing in both Windows and Linux (Debian in particular).

- Is the FreeSync/G-Sync situation still the same? I already have a 1060 and I'm not planning to get rid of it anytime soon, so FreeSync is worthless. Should I look into G-Sync monitors or is it still not worth it?

- Anything else I should know that has changed/is about to come out/etc?

About the only things that are about to come-out that are worth talking about from a gaming perspective are some Ultrawides, the 27in 240Hz panels rather than the 24.5in ones, and HDR panels most if not all of which are going to be outside your price range.

Gsync still costs a bit extra and if it's worth it is down to how much do you want it. Do you play games that are regularly below the max refresh rate while also being above the minimum refresh rate (I believe typical is 144Hz to 48Hz)? How important to you that those games are butter smooth?

As for recommendations, depends on what you're going for.

Samsung CFG70 (24in) their's also a 27in model. 144Hz; 1ms; VA Panel. Has a slight curve good color, and an amazing contrast ratio. VA panels tend to have inconsistent GTG times though but if you're playing mostly for smooth gameplay and having a great contrast ratio I'm not sure if their's a better option.

BenQ XL%%%% basically any of the benq 1ms 144Hz TN panels. Good features, decent customer service, 24in and 27in models. 1080p or 1440p, some have Freesync some have GSync, some neither. You'll probably find something that fits your requirements from 1 of their gaming monitors.

Asus VG, MG and PG line ups more or less the same thing as benq, but with a few more options like some IPS models. Personally I think they have some issues with QC with their flagship monitors. PG278Q has roughly 20% 1 star/egg rating on Newegg and Amazon (BenQ equivalent XL2730Z was around 10% 1 star rating) PG279Q is a similar story.

AOC and Acer also have several models but tbh I never paid much attention to them due to either ASUS or BenQ offering a similar product with a higher quality or a lower price with similar quality for the time I was looking.

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Read reviews. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/ has a wealth of information and several comparisons you can make.

[quote=Capu]I don't know if this is dead, since the last comments answering stuff are from too long ago, but maybe I can get some answers from Setsul (or anyone else who knows more than me):

- I'm thinking about getting a new monitor soon. What are the recommended ones nowadays? I personally don't care too much about color fidelity since I'm colorblind and I already have a monitor which will probably be better than most 144hzs at it. I'm looking at the 250€ range (could maybe go a little higher if it's worth it).

- I don't mind having to configure the monitor myself (I've heard the xl2411z is pretty popular even though you have to install drivers and set it up). However, I'd prefer it if I could do the same thing in both Windows and Linux (Debian in particular).

- Is the FreeSync/G-Sync situation still the same? I already have a 1060 and I'm not planning to get rid of it anytime soon, so FreeSync is worthless. Should I look into G-Sync monitors or is it still not worth it?

- Anything else I should know that has changed/is about to come out/etc?[/quote]

About the only things that are about to come-out that are worth talking about from a gaming perspective are some Ultrawides, the 27in 240Hz panels rather than the 24.5in ones, and HDR panels most if not all of which are going to be outside your price range.

Gsync still costs a bit extra and if it's worth it is down to how much do you want it. Do you play games that are regularly below the max refresh rate while also being above the minimum refresh rate (I believe typical is 144Hz to 48Hz)? How important to you that those games are butter smooth?

As for recommendations, depends on what you're going for.

Samsung CFG70 (24in) their's also a 27in model. 144Hz; 1ms; VA Panel. Has a slight curve good color, and an amazing contrast ratio. VA panels tend to have inconsistent GTG times though but if you're playing mostly for smooth gameplay and having a great contrast ratio I'm not sure if their's a better option.

BenQ XL%%%% basically any of the benq 1ms 144Hz TN panels. Good features, decent customer service, 24in and 27in models. 1080p or 1440p, some have Freesync some have GSync, some neither. You'll probably find something that fits your requirements from 1 of their gaming monitors.

Asus VG, MG and PG line ups more or less the same thing as benq, but with a few more options like some IPS models. Personally I think they have some issues with QC with their flagship monitors. PG278Q has roughly 20% 1 star/egg rating on Newegg and Amazon (BenQ equivalent XL2730Z was around 10% 1 star rating) PG279Q is a similar story.

AOC and Acer also have several models but tbh I never paid much attention to them due to either ASUS or BenQ offering a similar product with a higher quality or a lower price with similar quality for the time I was looking.

-edit-
Read reviews. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/ has a wealth of information and several comparisons you can make.
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#459
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Thanks for the answers. I'm not really looking for anything bigger than a 24" and this monitor is mostly for playing games. I've taken a look at everything and I'm probably going to get either the XL2411 or the VG248QE, since they're the ones in my price range and are still very much recommended everywhere even when they're so old. Also no G-Sync since it's way too expensive. I will probably play some games below 144hz, but I'll probably just cap the FPS and call it a day. After all, I mostly only play TF2 and Rocket League.

I've had a BenQ for a very long time and I'm pretty happy with it, the only problem it's given me is that the DVI EDID chip got corrupted somehow after several years, but it doesn't seem to be BenQ's fault. Plus I read concerns about the Asus' backlighting and how it gives headaches to some people when enabling blur reduction, so I'm probably going to choose the BenQ. We'll see, thanks for the help.

Thanks for the answers. I'm not really looking for anything bigger than a 24" and this monitor is mostly for playing games. I've taken a look at everything and I'm probably going to get either the XL2411 or the VG248QE, since they're the ones in my price range and are still very much recommended everywhere even when they're so old. Also no G-Sync since it's way too expensive. I will probably play some games below 144hz, but I'll probably just cap the FPS and call it a day. After all, I mostly only play TF2 and Rocket League.

I've had a BenQ for a very long time and I'm pretty happy with it, the only problem it's given me is that the DVI EDID chip got corrupted somehow after several years, but it doesn't seem to be BenQ's fault. Plus I read concerns about the Asus' backlighting and how it gives headaches to some people when enabling blur reduction, so I'm probably going to choose the BenQ. We'll see, thanks for the help.
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#460
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XL2411Z >>> VG248QE. Can't be bothered to look for the link to my essay on that.

XL2411Z >>> VG248QE. Can't be bothered to look for the link to my essay on that.
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#461
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SetsulXL2411Z >>> VG248QE. Can't be bothered to look for the link to my essay on that.

Maybe this? http://www.teamfortress.tv/20038/asus-vg248qe-vs-benq-xl2411z#20.

I hadn't seen it, I looked around forums and people seemed to think they were basically the same and some even said that they prefer the colors on the Asus, but those are valid points. I honestly have no idea about what a monitor with PWM looks like, but why risk it if it doesn't have any upsides.

[quote=Setsul]XL2411Z >>> VG248QE. Can't be bothered to look for the link to my essay on that.[/quote]

Maybe this? http://www.teamfortress.tv/20038/asus-vg248qe-vs-benq-xl2411z#20.

I hadn't seen it, I looked around forums and people seemed to think they were basically the same and some even said that they prefer the colors on the Asus, but those are valid points. I honestly have no idea about what a monitor with PWM looks like, but why risk it if it doesn't have any upsides.
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#462
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are 27 inch either 1080 or 1440 monitors worth it for fpses? my graphics card is a 1070.

are 27 inch either 1080 or 1440 monitors worth it for fpses? my graphics card is a 1070.
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#463
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AOC G2460FQ 24" 144Hz has an amazing price atm - just 155€
https://www.newegg.com/global/es/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160313&ignorebbr=1

[b]AOC G2460FQ[/b] 24" 144Hz has an amazing price atm - just 155€
https://www.newegg.com/global/es/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160313&ignorebbr=1
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#464
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sageAOC G2460FQ 24" 144Hz has an amazing price atm - just 155€
https://www.newegg.com/global/es/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160313&ignorebbr=1

i strongly advise to not get this, both the one i got and the replacement they sent me were having the issue where it would just display 60hz despite being set at 144hz, it might have been just a bad batch but it's not worth the risk
luckily i've been blessed and at the second try they sent me a different model for free w/ freesync and it's all good now

[quote=sage][b]AOC G2460FQ[/b] 24" 144Hz has an amazing price atm - just 155€
https://www.newegg.com/global/es/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160313&ignorebbr=1[/quote]
i strongly advise to not get this, both the one i got and the replacement they sent me were having the issue where it would just display 60hz despite being set at 144hz, it might have been just a bad batch but it's not worth the risk
luckily i've been blessed and at the second try they sent me a different model for free w/ freesync and it's all good now
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#465
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breloomare 27 inch either 1080 or 1440 monitors worth it for fpses? my graphics card is a 1070.

tourny size monitors are 24" so i usually stick to that. if you have the extra money, a 27" would be nice, but not nicer than a 144hz

[quote=breloom]are 27 inch either 1080 or 1440 monitors worth it for fpses? my graphics card is a 1070.[/quote]
tourny size monitors are 24" so i usually stick to that. if you have the extra money, a 27" would be nice, but not nicer than a 144hz
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#466
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Just seen this on amazon, cop or nah?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-24-5-inch-FreeSync-ZeroFrame-adjustable/dp/B073VR2GZM/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Just seen this on amazon, cop or nah?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-24-5-inch-FreeSync-ZeroFrame-adjustable/dp/B073VR2GZM/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
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#467
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AOC g2460Fq thoughts?
Seems pretty cheap and i don't quiet understand what's wrong

AOC g2460Fq thoughts?
Seems pretty cheap and i don't quiet understand what's wrong
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#468
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i have an acer XFA240 which has basically no info about it online. It works well and comes with a built in xhair (they call it "aim point") 144hz

i have an acer XFA240 which has basically no info about it online. It works well and comes with a built in xhair (they call it "aim point") 144hz
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#469
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does anyone have asus vg248qz, i've heard a lot of people say its fake 144hz with frameskipping?

does anyone have asus vg248qz, i've heard a lot of people say its fake 144hz with frameskipping?
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#470
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sorry for bump, but its important
Don't buy the asus vg248qz, it says its 144hz but it feels worse than 60hz because of the frameskipping. Learn from my mistakes :(

sorry for bump, but its important
Don't buy the asus vg248qz, it says its 144hz but it feels worse than 60hz because of the frameskipping. Learn from my mistakes :(
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#471
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while this is bumped i want to post this

I just got this and its a very nice actual 144hz monitor, the curve is very subtle and i'm honestly a big fan

while this is bumped i want to post [url=https://www.amazon.com/d/Monitors/Viotek-GN24CB-Speakers-Bezel-Less-FreeSync/B07HGK5S9Z?th=1&tag=teamfortresst-20]this[/url]

I just got this and its a very nice actual 144hz monitor, the curve is very subtle and i'm honestly a big fan
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#472
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if you're European and want to get a 240hz monitor for less than 290 euros check if your country has the KG251QD, don't mistake it for the 75hz or the 144hz version though, brits had it on sale for like £229 recently
https://pricespy.co.uk/computers-accessories/monitors/acer-kg251qd-bmiipx--p4707466?q=kg251qd
(I personally fucking love it)

if you're European and want to get a 240hz monitor for less than 290 euros check if your country has the KG251QD, don't mistake it for the 75hz or the 144hz version though, brits had it on sale for like £229 recently
https://pricespy.co.uk/computers-accessories/monitors/acer-kg251qd-bmiipx--p4707466?q=kg251qd
(I personally fucking love it)
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#473
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Acer XF270HA has frameskipping at 240Hz but runs perfectly at 200Hz and below.

Acer XF270HA has frameskipping at 240Hz but runs perfectly at 200Hz and below.
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#474
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the 240hz frameskipping monitors work at lower hz but the vg248qz doesnt work on anything past 60hz, maybe 75hz can be achieved with cru

the 240hz frameskipping monitors work at lower hz but the vg248qz doesnt work on anything past 60hz, maybe 75hz can be achieved with cru
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#475
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It's a firmware bug, it'll probably be fixed some day, but if you want to use 144 Hz now and not just in a few months I wouldn't recommend buying it.

Then again the VG248QE had PWM and worse colours than pretty much all other monitors, was severely out of date and overpriced and people still bought it. So the VG248QZ with no 3D support and no actual 144 Hz at an even higher price carries on the tradition of offering a monitor that's worse than even the cheapest budget 144 Hz monitors at a higher price.

Somehow I doubt that this will stop people from buying it.

It's a firmware bug, it'll probably be fixed some day, but if you want to use 144 Hz now and not just in a few months I wouldn't recommend buying it.

Then again the VG248QE had PWM and worse colours than pretty much all other monitors, was severely out of date and overpriced and people still bought it. So the VG248QZ with no 3D support and no actual 144 Hz at an even higher price carries on the tradition of offering a monitor that's worse than even the cheapest budget 144 Hz monitors at a higher price.

Somehow I doubt that this will stop people from buying it.
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#476
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well in my country the vg248qz is cheaper than anything else by 50$
https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1038260/

well in my country the vg248qz is cheaper than anything else by 50$
https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1038260/
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#477
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Honestly if anything that's an argument against buying from a Croatian shop rather than an argument for the VG248QZ. Glorious EU free trade area.

Good luck dealing with ASUS support in Eastern Europe. I stand by my prediction of a few months.

Honestly if anything that's an argument against buying from a Croatian shop rather than an argument for the VG248QZ. Glorious EU free trade area.

Good luck dealing with ASUS support in Eastern Europe. I stand by my prediction of a few months.
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#478
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http://prntscr.com/m0qbbc

http://prntscr.com/m0qbbc
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#479
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American friends the 240hz monitor I have is currently on sale for $229, it's extremely nice so if you're considering upgrading monitor you're in luck
https://www.microcenter.com/product/510224/KG251Q_245%22_Full_HD_240Hz_HDMI_DP_FreeSync_Gaming_LED_Monitor

American friends the 240hz monitor I have is currently on sale for $229, it's extremely nice so if you're considering upgrading monitor you're in luck
https://www.microcenter.com/product/510224/KG251Q_245%22_Full_HD_240Hz_HDMI_DP_FreeSync_Gaming_LED_Monitor
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