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The 120Hz Monitor Thread
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#391
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MightyIs there any specific way I should go about buying a used 120Hz Monitor? I personally want a 120Hz monitor w/ less than 3 ms, but I can't justify spending over $200 Dollars for 60 extra frames.

once u play on it.....yes u can

[quote=Mighty]Is there any specific way I should go about buying a used 120Hz Monitor? I personally want a 120Hz monitor w/ less than 3 ms, but I can't justify spending over $200 Dollars for 60 extra frames.[/quote]


once u play on it.....yes u can
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#392
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moofMightyIs there any specific way I should go about buying a used 120Hz Monitor? I personally want a 120Hz monitor w/ less than 3 ms, but I can't justify spending over $200 Dollars for 60 extra frames.
once u play on it.....yes u can

Let me clarify.... I don't have $200 to spend on 60 Extra Frames

[quote=moof][quote=Mighty]Is there any specific way I should go about buying a used 120Hz Monitor? I personally want a 120Hz monitor w/ less than 3 ms, but I can't justify spending over $200 Dollars for 60 extra frames.[/quote]


once u play on it.....yes u can[/quote]

Let me clarify.... I don't have $200 to spend on 60 Extra Frames
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#393
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Running a 144hz through HDMI:
I heard an HDMI 2.0 can run 120hz @ 1080p and 4K@60Hz. Does that mean I could run 144hz through an HMDI if I scale my resolution really low. I normally play at 640x480 and my native is 1024x768.

Running a 144hz through HDMI:
I heard an HDMI 2.0 can run 120hz @ 1080p and 4K@60Hz. Does that mean I could run 144hz through an HMDI if I scale my resolution really low. I normally play at 640x480 and my native is 1024x768.
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#394
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https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=12178&seq=1&format=2

$200

https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=12178&seq=1&format=2

$200
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#395
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In theory it could work. It practice it most likely won't. Unless you absolutely have to use HDMI (I'd like to know why that would be the case) you should stick to Dual Link DVI or Display Port or even VGA.

While HDMI has enough bandwidth it doesn't support 120Hz at all until 1.4, much less 144Hz. It's also not mandatory to implement 120Hz, since it wouldn't be of any use on a native 60Hz monitor. There is a decent chance that 120Hz could work, I've seen it before, but 144Hz is highly unlikely.

Is 1024*768 your desktop or monitor resolution? Which monitor? Which GPU?

In theory it could work. It practice it most likely won't. Unless you absolutely have to use HDMI (I'd like to know why that would be the case) you should stick to Dual Link DVI or Display Port or even VGA.

While HDMI has enough bandwidth it doesn't support 120Hz at all until 1.4, much less 144Hz. It's also not mandatory to implement 120Hz, since it wouldn't be of any use on a native 60Hz monitor. There is a decent chance that 120Hz could work, I've seen it before, but 144Hz is highly unlikely.

Is 1024*768 your desktop or monitor resolution? Which monitor? Which GPU?
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#396
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Just bought the one Pharoah linked. Will do a review.
1024 is my desktop res. I play on a craptop with iGPU (Intel 4000). The craptop only has an HDMI port and I'm hesitant to buy a whole new rig but the monitor is within my price range.

Just bought the one Pharoah linked. Will do a review.
1024 is my desktop res. I play on a craptop with iGPU (Intel 4000). The craptop only has an HDMI port and I'm hesitant to buy a whole new rig but the monitor is within my price range.
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#397
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How do you plan on getting enough fps with that craptop to justify a 144Hz monitor?

http://i.imgur.com/pret5yL.jpg
Read the list under "Preset Graphic Modes / Supported Resolutions"
And quoting the description

with the full 144Hz refresh rate supported on both the DVI and DisplayPort inputs.

1. You are not getting enough fps to justify a 144Hz monitor.
2. The monitor doesn't support high refresh rates at low resolutions.
3. The HDMI port doesn't support high refresh rates.

To make this abundantly clear I'll translate it:
1. This setup makes no sense
2. This setup will probably not even work.
3. This setup will definitely not work.

No offense intended, I'm just baffled how you could think this was a good idea.
I mean from my perspective this just happened:
You: "Can I run 144Hz through HDMI?"
Me: "144Hz probably not, maybe 120Hz if you're really lucky."
You: "I'm playing on a craptop that won't get good fps."
You: "144Hz won't work on that craptop."
You: "But I can't afford a new pc yet."
You: "So I just bought a 200$ 144Hz monitor anyway because 144Hz is best and 200$ is so cheap for a 144Hz monitor."
You: "This will totally improve my gaming experience and accelerate saving up for a new pc."
Me: head -> table

How do you plan on getting enough fps with that craptop to justify a 144Hz monitor?

http://i.imgur.com/pret5yL.jpg
Read the list under "Preset Graphic Modes / Supported Resolutions"
And quoting the description
[quote]with the full 144Hz refresh rate supported on [b]both the DVI and DisplayPort inputs[/b].[/quote]
1. You are not getting enough fps to justify a 144Hz monitor.
2. The monitor doesn't support high refresh rates at low resolutions.
3. The HDMI port doesn't support high refresh rates.

To make this abundantly clear I'll translate it:
1. This setup makes no sense
2. This setup will probably not even work.
3. This setup will definitely not work.

No offense intended, I'm just baffled how you could think this was a good idea.
I mean from my perspective this just happened:
You: "Can I run 144Hz through HDMI?"
Me: "144Hz probably not, maybe 120Hz if you're really lucky."
You: "I'm playing on a craptop that won't get good fps."
You: "144Hz won't work on that craptop."
You: "But I can't afford a new pc yet."
You: "So I just bought a 200$ 144Hz monitor anyway because 144Hz is best and 200$ is so cheap for a 144Hz monitor."
You: "This will totally improve my gaming experience and accelerate saving up for a new pc."
Me: head -> table
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#398
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1. You are not getting enough fps to justify a 144Hz monitor.
I get 120 constant at mid more at other times (through cfgs and other means)
2. The monitor doesn't support high refresh rates at low resolutions.
I didnt know about the resolutions supported thats why i asked

Procreative Does that mean I could run 144hz through an HMDI if I scale my resolution really low.

3. The HDMI port doesn't support high refresh rates
Thats also what i asked

Your diatribe is irrelevant as you assume that I'm purchasing this monitor in place of a new rig.
I have ulterior motives for purchasing a monitor which I will only use for about 2 months. I plan to give it away at that point for a friend of mine and I will be traveling during which I can only bring a latpop. I didnt ask for your opinion on how I care to spend my money I simply asked the technical possibilities of a product.

1. You are not getting enough fps to justify a 144Hz monitor.
I get 120 constant at mid more at other times (through cfgs and other means)
2. The monitor doesn't support high refresh rates at low resolutions.
I didnt know about the resolutions supported thats why i asked
[quote=Procreative] Does that mean I could run 144hz through an HMDI if I scale my resolution really low.[/quote]
3. The HDMI port doesn't support high refresh rates
Thats also what i asked

Your diatribe is irrelevant as you assume that I'm purchasing this monitor in place of a new rig.
I have ulterior motives for purchasing a monitor which I will only use for about 2 months. I plan to give it away at that point for a friend of mine and I will be traveling during which I can only bring a latpop. I didnt ask for your opinion on how I care to spend my money I simply asked the technical possibilities of a product.
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#399
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1. Won't cut it for TF2.
2./3. Either you bought the monitor without knowing wether or not it would work or you bought it after I told you it won't work. It doesn't make sense. You just wasted 200$.

Either you completely ignored my advice and bought the monitor anyway or you're really salty that after you bought the monitor you found out it won't worked like you planned.

Procreative I didnt ask for your opinion on how I care to spend my money I simply asked the technical possibilities of a product.

That's nice. Actually you didn't ask for anything in #396.
But I don't care. I'm not Tech Support. So if I see stupid shit, I'll call it stupid shit, no sugarcoating.

1. Won't cut it for TF2.
2./3. Either you bought the monitor without knowing wether or not it would work or you bought it after I told you it won't work. It doesn't make sense. You just wasted 200$.

Either you completely ignored my advice and bought the monitor anyway or you're really salty that after you bought the monitor you found out it won't worked like you planned.
[quote=Procreative] I didnt ask for your opinion on how I care to spend my money I simply asked the technical possibilities of a product.[/quote]
That's nice. Actually you didn't ask for anything in #396.
But I don't care. I'm not Tech Support. So if I see stupid shit, I'll call it stupid shit, no sugarcoating.
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#400
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I have 60hz. This will get me 75hz at the least and be a welcome gift I purchased on the cheap for a friend.

SetsulBut I don't care. I'm not Tech Support. So if I see stupid shit, I'll call it stupid shit, no sugarcoating.

Personalizing and dissonance
edit: I apologize for personalizing this myself but I felt the ad hominem wasn't justified

I have 60hz. This will get me 75hz at the least and be a welcome gift I purchased on the cheap for a friend.

[quote=Setsul][u]But I don't care[/u]. I'm not Tech Support. [u]So if I see stupid shit, I'll call it stupid shit[/u], no sugarcoating.[/quote]
Personalizing and dissonance
edit: I apologize for personalizing this myself but I felt the ad hominem wasn't justified
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#401
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It's basic consumer's education.

O brave new world, that has such people in't.

It's basic consumer's education.

O brave new world, that has such people in't.
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#402
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So calling out stupid decisions is ad hominem now?
And if I don't care about your feelings because I'm not paid to do so is dissonance?
Oh boy, I suggest you leave the internet now before you get even more offended.

So calling out stupid decisions is ad hominem now?
And if I don't care about your feelings because I'm not paid to do so is dissonance?
Oh boy, I suggest you leave the internet now before you get even more offended.
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#403
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Hello guys, since I will be building a new gaming rig, I would also like to buy a new monitor.
My old all-in-one PC can go up to 1920x1080 @ 90hz and I saw a big difference so I reckon I need a 120hz monitor.
unfortunely, all 120hz in my city is for some reason close to 2 times as much compared with other places and the only reasonablely price 120hz monitor is an Acer gn245hqbmid, is it good?

Hello guys, since I will be building a new gaming rig, I would also like to buy a new monitor.
My old all-in-one PC can go up to 1920x1080 @ 90hz and I saw a big difference so I reckon I need a 120hz monitor.
unfortunely, all 120hz in my city is for some reason close to 2 times as much compared with other places and the only reasonablely price 120hz monitor is an Acer gn245hqbmid, is it good?
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#404
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Hey, this 144hz by Philips is only $200 right now... Anyone have any experience with it or know if it's good?

Hey, this [url=http://www.amazon.com/Philips-242G5DJEB-Extreme-Performance-Professional/dp/B00G6IWEE0/?tag=teamfortresst-20]144hz by Philips[/url] is only $200 right now... Anyone have any experience with it or know if it's good?
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#405
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AlkalineHey, this 144hz by Philips is only $200 right now... Anyone have any experience with it or know if it's good?

My friend own this one. It's pretty good from what I've heard from him. Worth buying, especially with such a discount.

[quote=Alkaline]Hey, this [url=http://www.amazon.com/Philips-242G5DJEB-Extreme-Performance-Professional/dp/B00G6IWEE0/?tag=teamfortresst-20]144hz by Philips[/url] is only $200 right now... Anyone have any experience with it or know if it's good?[/quote]
My friend own this one. It's pretty good from what I've heard from him. Worth buying, especially with such a discount.
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#406
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Can't find any 120 Hz monitors on market in my region at all atm. They are either <120 or 144 Hz (the latter cost more than I'm willing to pay for a monitor plus I think 120 would be enough for me). Is this a local lack of variety or 144 Hz monitors are replacing all the 120 Hz ones?

Can't find any 120 Hz monitors on market in my region at all atm. They are either <120 or 144 Hz (the latter cost more than I'm willing to pay for a monitor plus I think 120 would be enough for me). Is this a local lack of variety or 144 Hz monitors are replacing all the 120 Hz ones?
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#407
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i too have noticed 144hz monitors are more prevalent than 120hz monitors

i too have noticed 144hz monitors are more prevalent than 120hz monitors
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#408
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HOLY SHIT it really is that good

HOLY SHIT it really is that good
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#409
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Hey guys I'm thinking about upgrading my older 120hz (asus vg236he) to either an asus VG248QE or a BenQ XL2411Z. I heard the monitor i have right now has some slight input lag issues which id like to believe is true so i can blame that when my meatshots do 10 damage. Has anybody else here done a similar upgrade and noticed an improvement?

Hey guys I'm thinking about upgrading my older 120hz (asus vg236he) to either an asus VG248QE or a BenQ XL2411Z. I heard the monitor i have right now has some slight input lag issues which id like to believe is true so i can blame that when my meatshots do 10 damage. Has anybody else here done a similar upgrade and noticed an improvement?
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#410
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I've never posted here before but I need help. I'm going off to college this fall, and having a tower wouldn't be the best for me. I've been looking for gaming laptops, and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232404 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314853 have caught my eye. If I get one of these laptops, would it be possible for me to buy a 120/144hz monitor and use it with either of these laptops?

I've never posted here before but I need help. I'm going off to college this fall, and having a tower wouldn't be the best for me. I've been looking for gaming laptops, and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232404 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314853 have caught my eye. If I get one of these laptops, would it be possible for me to buy a 120/144hz monitor and use it with either of these laptops?
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#411
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KhoumI've never posted here before but I need help. I'm going off to college this fall, and having a tower wouldn't be the best for me. I've been looking for gaming laptops, and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232404 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314853 have caught my eye. If I get one of these laptops, would it be possible for me to buy a 120/144hz monitor and use it with either of these laptops?

Get a chromebook or something light for classes. $600 could get you an Asus zenbook which is super light. And build a cheap tower for games. A $600 build with an i5 and r9 270 will do great in TF2 and CSGO.

The benefits of a dual setup:

1) More performance for similar (if not cheaper) total price.
2) Laptop will be lighter and have more battery life.
3) No access to games outside of your dorm room: makes it much easier to focus on academics when you need to, and then game comfortably when you have the time.

[quote=Khoum]I've never posted here before but I need help. I'm going off to college this fall, and having a tower wouldn't be the best for me. I've been looking for gaming laptops, and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232404 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314853 have caught my eye. If I get one of these laptops, would it be possible for me to buy a 120/144hz monitor and use it with either of these laptops?[/quote]

Get a chromebook or something light for classes. $600 could get you an Asus zenbook which is super light. And build a cheap tower for games. A $600 build with an i5 and r9 270 will do great in TF2 and CSGO.

The benefits of a dual setup:

1) More performance for similar (if not cheaper) total price.
2) Laptop will be lighter and have more battery life.
3) No access to games outside of your dorm room: makes it much easier to focus on academics when you need to, and then game comfortably when you have the time.
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#412
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I just got my 144Hz. monitor in today and everything is all setup to my knowledge.

- Changed refresh rate to 144Hz. in Windows and NVIDIA settings.
- Changed my colors, contrast, etc. (ASUS 144Hz. has ass colors out of the box.)
- Installed the Light boost thing for zero motion blur.

Am I forgetting anything?

I just got my 144Hz. monitor in today and everything is all setup to my knowledge.

- Changed refresh rate to 144Hz. in Windows and NVIDIA settings.
- Changed my colors, contrast, etc. (ASUS 144Hz. has ass colors out of the box.)
- Installed the Light boost thing for zero motion blur.

Am I forgetting anything?
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#413
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I went back to the drawing board and used an HDMI cable instead of a VGA Cable, in an attempt to get 75Hz without scaling issues. It worked. 60Hz (Stock) 67Hz (VGA w/out scaling issues) 74.5Hz (Maximum w/ HDMI)

I can feel a pretty huge difference in smoothness just by going up 7.5Hz, I wonder how it'll feel to use a legit 120/144Hz...

I heard that 75Hz is usually considered acceptable among 120Hz users. Can anyone confirm this?

I went back to the drawing board and used an HDMI cable instead of a VGA Cable, in an attempt to get 75Hz without scaling issues. It worked. 60Hz (Stock) [b]→[/b] 67Hz (VGA w/out scaling issues) [b]→[/b] 74.5Hz (Maximum w/ HDMI)

I can feel a pretty huge difference in smoothness just by going up 7.5Hz, I wonder how it'll feel to use a legit 120/144Hz...

I heard that 75Hz is usually considered acceptable among 120Hz users. Can anyone confirm this?
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#414
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Can we have a uptade on this please? ^^

Can we have a uptade on this please? ^^
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#415
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Can anybody recommend a site to buy ASUS VG248QE or BenQ XL2411Z from in Canada? Everywhere I look is insane shipping costs or insane base price. I'd like to spend no more than $300 shipped, is this even possible?

Can anybody recommend a site to buy ASUS VG248QE or BenQ XL2411Z from in Canada? Everywhere I look is insane shipping costs or insane base price. I'd like to spend no more than $300 shipped, is this even possible?
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#416
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deetrCan anybody recommend a site to buy ASUS VG248QE or BenQ XL2411Z from in Canada? Everywhere I look is insane shipping costs or insane base price. I'd like to spend no more than $300 shipped, is this even possible?

prob might need to look for them in a store if you have no luck

[quote=deetr]Can anybody recommend a site to buy ASUS VG248QE or BenQ XL2411Z from in Canada? Everywhere I look is insane shipping costs or insane base price. I'd like to spend no more than $300 shipped, is this even possible?[/quote]
prob might need to look for them in a store if you have no luck
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#417
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I'm looking for a 120/144Hz monitor to take to college since driving my 65lb. CRT 300 miles isn't quite feasible.

I assume that the VG248QE/XL2411Z is still standard, but I was wondering if this one had any merit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0JC-004S-00001

The reviews are overwhelmingly positive and therefore look overwhelmingly fake but the specs seem good for the price.

And while we're at it, what about the Korean 1440p monitors which supposedly OC to 110/120Hz?

I'm looking for a 120/144Hz monitor to take to college since driving my 65lb. CRT 300 miles isn't quite feasible.

I assume that the VG248QE/XL2411Z is still standard, but I was wondering if this one had any merit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0JC-004S-00001

The reviews are overwhelmingly positive and therefore look overwhelmingly fake but the specs seem good for the price.

And while we're at it, what about the Korean 1440p monitors which supposedly OC to 110/120Hz?
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#418
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WaldoI'm looking for a 120/144Hz monitor to take to college since driving my 65lb. CRT 300 miles isn't quite feasible.

I assume that the VG248QE/XL2411Z is still standard, but I was wondering if this one had any merit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0JC-004S-00001

The reviews are overwhelmingly positive and therefore look overwhelmingly fake but the specs seem good for the price.

And while we're at it, what about the Korean 1440p monitors which supposedly OC to 110/120Hz?

If you want a cheap 144Hz

go for 1 of these korean models
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-X-star-DP2414LED-Full-HD-Gaming-Monitor-24-144Hz-Multi-Port-/221822303311

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-QNIX-QX2414-Real-144Hz-24-LED-1920x1080-Full-HD-FPS-PC-Monitor-/121696946784

Make sure if you get 1 of those you get the perfect pixel guarantee otherwise expect a shit ton of dead/stuck pixels. Also both can be overclocked but that really fucks with the colors.

Though the 2411z and VG248QE are going to be much better overall than those (both have OSD menus to start with or at least a better one, better default colors, better pixel overdrive which means less "ghosting", I believe both can do lightboost or some form of blur reduction, both have significantly better customer support). The QNIX doesn't have an OSD menu, and both of those monitor have about ~2ms of input lag which still makes them better than most 144Hz and cheaper. Also as I mention with customer support good luck getting customer support from people who may/may not know English that well in a different country with no US or Euro branches.

The 1440p korean monitors don't always overclock well past about 96Hz, some of which need you to buy a higher amperage power brick in order to get them to work right.

[quote=Waldo]I'm looking for a 120/144Hz monitor to take to college since driving my 65lb. CRT 300 miles isn't quite feasible.

I assume that the VG248QE/XL2411Z is still standard, but I was wondering if this one had any merit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0JC-004S-00001

The reviews are overwhelmingly positive and therefore look overwhelmingly fake but the specs seem good for the price.

And while we're at it, what about the Korean 1440p monitors which supposedly OC to 110/120Hz?[/quote]

If you want a cheap 144Hz

go for 1 of these korean models
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-X-star-DP2414LED-Full-HD-Gaming-Monitor-24-144Hz-Multi-Port-/221822303311

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-QNIX-QX2414-Real-144Hz-24-LED-1920x1080-Full-HD-FPS-PC-Monitor-/121696946784

Make sure if you get 1 of those you get the perfect pixel guarantee otherwise expect a shit ton of dead/stuck pixels. Also both can be overclocked but that really fucks with the colors.

Though the 2411z and VG248QE are going to be much better overall than those (both have OSD menus to start with or at least a better one, better default colors, better pixel overdrive which means less "ghosting", I believe both can do lightboost or some form of blur reduction, both have significantly better customer support). The QNIX doesn't have an OSD menu, and both of those monitor have about ~2ms of input lag which still makes them better than most 144Hz and cheaper. Also as I mention with customer support good luck getting customer support from people who may/may not know English that well in a different country with no US or Euro branches.

The 1440p korean monitors don't always overclock well past about 96Hz, some of which need you to buy a higher amperage power brick in order to get them to work right.
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#419
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Plug Type: Korean C Type

Plug Type: Korean C Type
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