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I was just in b4nny's stream and something was off. He seemed in a different mood to usual, kind of distracted. Someone in his chat mentioned the metalworks fridge and he looked visibly upset when he read about it. People then started spamming his chat to "Acknowledge the Fridge" which he kept ignoring. After a few minutes of this, he ended his stream early without saying anything. Anybody know what's going on?

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so true it must have been tough playing by candlelight

this post is super funny because the old player hero worship and “kids these days” attitude makes you sound old enough to remember it. but there is no way you could write that with a straight face if you did

thats cap your honor

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I don’t think this is a fair comparison, given that
1. you are relying on your medic to ensure the info is accurate
2. the medic is manually pressing buttons to communicate the info
2.a. the one receiving the info cannot control when it is sent
3. the info is not exact

I don’t think it’s unprecedented to have specific rules detailing what is and isn’t allowed on ETF2L. Many of the rules pages go into excruciating detail as to what exactly you can and can’t do with game exploits. It’s a fair concern, but I’m pretty confident there’s nothing else in specifically “showpanel specgui” that can be abused. Any other showpanel or related command ffound in the future could be easily banned (and, as you said, detected).

I think the admins have done a good job of explaining why it’s not allowed right now, especially considering how many people seem to be against their consensus. Even though it’s possible to use this command on default HUD with no game modifications, you would want a hud that cleans up the specGUI or you’d be missing a decent chunk of your screen for a tiny number. Arguing based on contradictions in the rules feels to me like missing the point - at the very least, it’s understandable to ban it right before LAN out of caution. The QOL vs EasyMode debate will be familiar to literally anyone who has played OSRS/WoW Classic and it’s not a simple one.

Devil’s advocate: it does reduce the reliance on comms in some specific situations. It is not completely worthless in high level games. How big is the difference? Not as obvious as it seems unless people start trying hard to abuse it on teams. It would take purposely omitting all % calls until uber is almost ready, and actively using the comms space for calls - is this ever enough of a gain to make a difference? I could potentially see it happening with very talkative teams - shouldn’t they be punished instead?
Would having it improve the game? Does teams being more effortlessly cohesive benefit fast play more than stalemating?

While researching I found this thread from 2 years ago - pretty interesting read regarding peoples’ opinions on Match HUD.

Unrelated: I’ve been updating the hud in the OP (not uploaded yet) with an emphasis on glance value and subconscious information that a lot of huds neglect. More on that soon.

Just out of curiosity, do you know anything about the ubercharge panel in HudMatchStatus?

Other than your own post asking about it many years ago, all I could find about it was the original post from swissolo's match hud thread when it first released:

Given that leagues are against it on the basis of how it is accessed, it seems that the only way to show this info "legally" would be by pursuing this lead.
I don't know enough about the actual mechanisms of the tf2 hud to try to bruteforce any information out of it, but the panel at least exists.
I have had people anecdotally tell me that they have had huds with this enabled, but I seriously doubt this was cracked without being big news.

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I think it was the pauses that massively reduced the quality of the lan

People keep linking me to this old thread in which it’s described as an exploit, but of course the context is that this was found before the match hud was released - it was an enormous advantage then. Your teammates’ health and spawn timer was not available information at the time.

Regardless, when making this edit I wanted to use it as a quality of life tool. It was useful for pugs and mixes where my medic is emo because he got randomly picked or whatever. I didn’t actually think people would consider it a meaningful advantage in organised games. I do hope it’s eventually reconsidered so that I don’t have to be a Cheater to use it in a pug

this is ancient lan tech: the more mousepads you stack, the less of the bumpy old table you can feel through it