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To all MGE lords
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#1
0 Frags +

how do I win Ammomod [MGE]
Edit: without playing like gay

how do I win Ammomod [MGE]
Edit: without playing like gay
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#2
-2 Frags +

shoot em

shoot em
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#3
72 Frags +

aaaaaadddddaaaddddddddddddddaaaaaadddddddaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddddd

aaaaaadddddaaaddddddddddddddaaaaaadddddddaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddddd
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#4
-12 Frags +

I’m not an mge lord but the trick is to never let go of w

I’m not an mge lord but the trick is to never let go of w
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#5
9 Frags +

shoot direct rockets at where their feet will be

shoot direct rockets at where their feet will be
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#6
-3 Frags +

whoevers ping is lower wins ammomod. fact.

whoevers ping is lower wins ammomod. fact.
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#7
-19 Frags +

Hi, MGE lord: 'Charlie' here!
Don't care about winning
Shoot only for directs
Surf all enemy rockets
Never go for SAFE rockets
Don't walk into directs
/hud
hud_saytext_time 0
Play spire or badlands mid ammomod sucks ror when you've got basic mechanics and for realistic practice it sucks because if you're 1v1ing in-game on flat floor u shouldn't

Hi, MGE lord: 'Charlie' here!
Don't care about winning
Shoot only for directs
Surf all enemy rockets
Never go for SAFE rockets
Don't walk into directs
/hud
hud_saytext_time 0
Play spire or badlands mid ammomod sucks ror when you've got basic mechanics and for realistic practice it sucks because if you're 1v1ing in-game on flat floor u shouldn't
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#8
43 Frags +
charlePlay spire or badlands mid ammomod sucks ror when you've got basic mechanics and for realistic practice it sucks because if you're 1v1ing in-game on flat floor u shouldn't

strong disagree, ammomod improves your raw movement a lot more than spire ever will, especially if you stay on the ground and don't surf every single rocket

[quote=charle]
Play spire or badlands mid ammomod sucks ror when you've got basic mechanics and for realistic practice it sucks because if you're 1v1ing in-game on flat floor u shouldn't[/quote]
strong disagree, ammomod improves your raw movement a lot more than spire ever will, especially if you stay on the ground and don't surf every single rocket
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#9
-35 Frags +

Don't surf and don't go for airshots, play safe and focus on movement. When you get that down you can make mge lords mad for not hitting anything but still winning like me.

Don't surf and don't go for airshots, play safe and focus on movement. When you get that down you can make mge lords mad for not hitting anything but still winning like me.
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#10
83 Frags +

how to actually win:

- surf every rocket
- maintain position in the middle
- go for the safest shot every time
- uninstall because you play mge to win you cretin

how to actually win:

- surf every rocket
- maintain position in the middle
- go for the safest shot every time
- uninstall because you play mge to win you cretin
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#11
-30 Frags +
Erichow to actually win:

- surf every rocket
- maintain position in the middle

This is definitely not how you win Ammomod :D

[quote=Eric]how to actually win:

- surf every rocket
- maintain position in the middle
[/quote]
This is definitely not how you win Ammomod :D
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#12
70 Frags +

dont play ammomod its genuinely the most homosexual thing you could do besides actually touching a penis

dont play ammomod its genuinely the most homosexual thing you could do besides actually touching a penis
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#13
18 Frags +
charleDon't care about winning
Shoot only for directs
Surf all enemy rockets
Never go for SAFE rockets

You are no true MGE lord...

[quote=charle]
Don't care about winning
Shoot only for directs
Surf all enemy rockets
Never go for SAFE rockets
[/quote]

You are no true MGE lord...
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#14
75 Frags +

before anything else, i think it's important to lay out the general framework for optimal MGE matches. arena-specific advice can only follow by knowing the matchup & the type of fight in play.

each fight of an MGE set should be strategically categorized in one of three ways:
1) the first fight -- determine the nash equilibrium (which is usually, but not always, the center of the arena based on your spawn relative to your opponent's) and then immediately begin the fight from said position, readjusting view angle & character placement based on your (im)precision & your opponent's (im)precision (i.e. damage dealt/received and, more importantly, expected damage to deal/receive). this ideology is the most straight-forward for scout vs scout, but it holds true for nearly every single matchup save for possibly demo vs any class, as demo usually performs better the farther back he can hold. it can be tricky to determine the nash equilibrium for scout vs soldier as either role, but the best advice i can give is to not underestimate having low ground as a soldier if you have prior knowledge that the scout is clumsy or tends to play imbalanced (usually in the forms of playing extremely widely or double-jumping very naively). on the flip-side, it's important for scouts to constantly attempt to get a view-angle advantage over their opponents unless they have a reactionary &/or predictive advantage over their opponent (the element of surprise).

the other two categories are very match-up & arena -oriented, but the most important mentality to have across both is to think about influencing your opponent in the long-term so you can better predict what he's going to do in future matches. going onward as generally as possible...

2) won the last fight -- establish and maintain momentum by identifying view-angle discrepancies between spawns (e.g. you're playing scout and the soldier spawns perpendicular to you looking at the center of the arena whereas you're looking right at him). utilize your first-shot speed advantage (but be wary of having less ammo than your opponent on respawn if you used a hitscan weapon to kill your opponent in the last match) and plan to close distance.

3) lost the last fight -- utilize your greater ammo count if you have a hitscan weapon &/or re-angle your opponent as uncomfortably as possible to break momentum. this is the most physical of all the fights, but prediction is still a major factor. for instance, if you're playing scout & your opponent tends to have a passive-range of movement, approach it like a spy & jump/double-jump behind him to flip the view-angle discrepancy in your favor. at the same time, if your opponent overly predicts hyper-angular play, punish with a tight-aggressive playstyle by moving slightly diagonally into said opponent. always play around with depth-perception: move backwards to amplify angular discrepancies and then follow-up by squeezing in between shots to maximize damage dealt & minimize (but not necessarily negate) damage received. mobility is extremely important to factor when reestablishing momentum; sloppy movement can exhaust you & waste your efforts in otherwise close fights. most importantly, realize that it's completely normal to lose multiple fights in a row in MGE. momentum can be very hard to overcome, with ammomod arguably being the hardest arena when said momentum is against you.

playing into view-angle discrepancies & deceiving your opponent, you don't necessarily have to stare at your opponent while you fight him. the whole romanticism of "tracking" your opponent is naive at best: most weapons don't fire a continuous stream of bullets or projectiles, nor are the ones that do necessarily accurate past the first shot. as long as you know where your opponent is, you can minimize the effects of interpolation wrt splash damage by looking in a seemingly passive (or, if your opponent overly predicts you as a passive player, a hyper-aggressive) direction & committing to running towards it, turning & shooting only when you know your opponent believes you're doing something different from what you're intending. as such, it's very important to constantly practice predicting your opponent given a limited set of visual information. an exercise i regularly do is to plant my crosshair in one position (either on the map or constantly relative to my opponent) & attempt to make my opponent go where i want.

taking this a step further to a possibly unpopular opinion, i believe most higher level players in any game don't actually physically "track" their opponents regardless of what they articulate. as long as your modeling strategy is accurate, the closeness of your crosshair placement directly correlates with the precision of the resultant predictions. it's simply not physically possible to truly track your opponent in the long-term; physical tracking is essentially equivalent to tunnel-visioning, and you need to do it as absolutely minimally as possible.

a lot of this may become more intuitive when you optimize your physical setup to reduce aberrations and discomforts in edge-case arm/wrist positions. monitor refresh rate & mouse/keyboard actuation force aside, this requires a serious look at your posture & your setup's ergonomics. determine how much of your mousepad you actually use, and then further determine if those bounds are caused by physical/mechanical problems or from habit. determine if expanding your usable space would allow you to hit wider, previously uncomfortable shots. in total, make these analyses from your opponent's perspective: determine possible physical positions that you could take (wrt mouse placement and in-game camera angle) that would most likely be extremely uncomfortable for your opponent, and then make said positions as comfortable as possible for you.

more advice than that would honestly require me to watch you fight, but i think as long as you shift away from pattern & rule-based thought processes into a probabilistic mindset, you'll eventually consistently outplay your opponents. don't fall into intrusive thought feedback loops about "thinking too much" or "overthinking the situation": try to explicitly articulate what you believe your opponent is intending on doing wrt the type of fight & your relative spawn position, and make clear statements about what you're going to do when fighting your opponent. always approach your 1v1's with self-awareness. with enough cognitive practice, you'll be able to increase your mental & physical stamina. it helps to approach MGE with the end-goal of lessening your physical burden in more extreme applications (e.g. handing multiple opponents at once in 6's).

the best class-nonspecific ammomod-specific advice i can recommend is to play very aggressively since keeping momentum is much easier than acquiring it. nosplash is also a great precursor map to ammomod (although in ammomod it can be optimal to not direct your opponent's feet since splashing down at the ground is easier than directing your opponent in the air). if you're a soldier, swapping between your rocket & shotgun can stifle your opponent greatly (although i don't think it's necessarily good practice unless you have no confidence in your hitscan). you should also practice juggling your opponent with singular rockets: knock them up in the air, predict where they're going to land, shoot once they touch the ground, rinse & repeat.

before anything else, i think it's important to lay out the general framework for optimal MGE matches. arena-specific advice can only follow by knowing the matchup & the type of fight in play.

each fight of an MGE set should be strategically categorized in one of three ways:
1) the first fight -- determine the nash equilibrium (which is usually, but not always, the center of the arena based on your spawn relative to your opponent's) and then immediately begin the fight from said position, readjusting view angle & character placement based on your (im)precision & your opponent's (im)precision (i.e. damage dealt/received and, more importantly, expected damage to deal/receive). this ideology is the most straight-forward for scout vs scout, but it holds true for nearly every single matchup save for possibly demo vs any class, as demo usually performs better the farther back he can hold. it can be tricky to determine the nash equilibrium for scout vs soldier as either role, but the best advice i can give is to not underestimate having low ground as a soldier if you have prior knowledge that the scout is clumsy or tends to play imbalanced (usually in the forms of playing extremely widely or double-jumping very naively). on the flip-side, it's important for scouts to constantly attempt to get a view-angle advantage over their opponents unless they have a reactionary &/or predictive advantage over their opponent (the element of surprise).

the other two categories are very match-up & arena -oriented, but the most important mentality to have across both is to think about influencing your opponent in the long-term so you can better predict what he's going to do in future matches. going onward as generally as possible...

2) won the last fight -- establish and maintain momentum by identifying view-angle discrepancies between spawns (e.g. you're playing scout and the soldier spawns perpendicular to you looking at the center of the arena whereas you're looking right at him). utilize your first-shot speed advantage (but be wary of having less ammo than your opponent on respawn if you used a hitscan weapon to kill your opponent in the last match) and plan to close distance.

3) lost the last fight -- utilize your greater ammo count if you have a hitscan weapon &/or re-angle your opponent as uncomfortably as possible to break momentum. this is the most physical of all the fights, but prediction is still a major factor. for instance, if you're playing scout & your opponent tends to have a passive-range of movement, approach it like a spy & jump/double-jump behind him to flip the view-angle discrepancy in your favor. at the same time, if your opponent overly predicts hyper-angular play, punish with a tight-aggressive playstyle by moving slightly diagonally into said opponent. always play around with depth-perception: move backwards to amplify angular discrepancies and then follow-up by squeezing in between shots to maximize damage dealt & minimize (but not necessarily negate) damage received. mobility is extremely important to factor when reestablishing momentum; sloppy movement can exhaust you & waste your efforts in otherwise close fights. most importantly, realize that it's completely normal to lose multiple fights in a row in MGE. momentum can be very hard to overcome, with ammomod arguably being the hardest arena when said momentum is against you.

playing into view-angle discrepancies & deceiving your opponent, you don't necessarily have to stare at your opponent while you fight him. the whole romanticism of "tracking" your opponent is naive at best: most weapons don't fire a continuous stream of bullets or projectiles, nor are the ones that do necessarily accurate past the first shot. as long as you know where your opponent is, you can minimize the effects of interpolation wrt splash damage by looking in a seemingly passive (or, if your opponent overly predicts you as a passive player, a hyper-aggressive) direction & committing to running towards it, turning & shooting only when you know your opponent believes you're doing something different from what you're intending. as such, it's very important to constantly practice predicting your opponent given a limited set of visual information. an exercise i regularly do is to plant my crosshair in one position (either on the map or constantly relative to my opponent) & attempt to make my opponent go where i want.

taking this a step further to a possibly unpopular opinion, i believe most higher level players in any game don't actually physically "track" their opponents regardless of what they articulate. as long as your modeling strategy is accurate, the closeness of your crosshair placement directly correlates with the precision of the resultant predictions. it's simply not physically possible to truly track your opponent in the long-term; physical tracking is essentially equivalent to tunnel-visioning, and you need to do it as absolutely minimally as possible.

a lot of this may become more intuitive when you optimize your physical setup to reduce aberrations and discomforts in edge-case arm/wrist positions. monitor refresh rate & mouse/keyboard actuation force aside, this requires a serious look at your posture & your setup's ergonomics. determine how much of your mousepad you actually use, and then further determine if those bounds are caused by physical/mechanical problems or from habit. determine if expanding your usable space would allow you to hit wider, previously uncomfortable shots. in total, make these analyses from your opponent's perspective: determine possible physical positions that you could take (wrt mouse placement and in-game camera angle) that would most likely be extremely uncomfortable for your opponent, and then make said positions as comfortable as possible for you.

more advice than that would honestly require me to watch you fight, but i think as long as you shift away from pattern & rule-based thought processes into a probabilistic mindset, you'll eventually consistently outplay your opponents. don't fall into intrusive thought feedback loops about "thinking too much" or "overthinking the situation": try to explicitly articulate what you believe your opponent is intending on doing wrt the type of fight & your relative spawn position, and make clear statements about what you're going to do when fighting your opponent. always approach your 1v1's with self-awareness. with enough cognitive practice, you'll be able to increase your mental & physical stamina. it helps to approach MGE with the end-goal of lessening your physical burden in more extreme applications (e.g. handing multiple opponents at once in 6's).

the best class-nonspecific ammomod-specific advice i can recommend is to play very aggressively since keeping momentum is much easier than acquiring it. nosplash is also a great precursor map to ammomod (although in ammomod it can be optimal to not direct your opponent's feet since splashing down at the ground is easier than directing your opponent in the air). if you're a soldier, swapping between your rocket & shotgun can stifle your opponent greatly (although i don't think it's necessarily good practice unless you have no confidence in your hitscan). you should also practice juggling your opponent with singular rockets: knock them up in the air, predict where they're going to land, shoot once they touch the ground, rinse & repeat.
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#15
27 Frags +
VisDon't surf and don't go for airshots, play safe and focus on movement. When you get that down you can make mge lords mad for not hitting anything but still winning like me.

LMAFO

[quote=Vis]Don't surf and don't go for airshots, play safe and focus on movement. When you get that down you can make mge lords mad for not hitting anything but still winning like me.[/quote]


LMAFO
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#16
7 Frags +

Hit all splash rockets and shotty em the fuck down

Hit all splash rockets and shotty em the fuck down
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#17
-3 Frags +

u just gotta aim to kill them with the least ammount of ammo as u possibly can. its not like other maps where there are strats and places to hide. the only strat is just to do things that are unnatural such as spawning and only doing long strafes at the fence because its unusual and doesn't really make any sense, which confuses the other guy into moving in a way that isn't effecient like pressing w into someone who is holding their ground and not varying their position, but aaaadddd-ing and if you arent a potato that usually results in a free 100 damage rocket and then its just a case of juggling.

but once ur doing that shit its just not fun and u arent really doing anything but trying to win and make a map that has a lot of potential to be fun into a really boring spam fest. in a lot of ways ammomod even as soldier v soldier is very similar to scout v scout

wats also intresting about this map is that it plays completley differently depending on where you are playing. surfing in america pretty much never happens and it doesnt really have to because the hardest people to beat, instead of doing what most high elo euro do which is what i previously mentioned, americans walk into you, so you are pretty much always at 100 damage direct range whereas in europe ur always at like 40 damage range so u gotta play accordingly. instead of walking into the free directs that euros will make u play into, u pretty much have to surf and if u do it right then it doesn't matter but in NA where i guess u are its just a matter of dealong witb being juggled which u get used to over time like i find i hit more headshot rockets in NA even tho i have 150 ping just cause i got used to it and as well as their playstyles allow for things like that

u just gotta aim to kill them with the least ammount of ammo as u possibly can. its not like other maps where there are strats and places to hide. the only strat is just to do things that are unnatural such as spawning and only doing long strafes at the fence because its unusual and doesn't really make any sense, which confuses the other guy into moving in a way that isn't effecient like pressing w into someone who is holding their ground and not varying their position, but aaaadddd-ing and if you arent a potato that usually results in a free 100 damage rocket and then its just a case of juggling.

but once ur doing that shit its just not fun and u arent really doing anything but trying to win and make a map that has a lot of potential to be fun into a really boring spam fest. in a lot of ways ammomod even as soldier v soldier is very similar to scout v scout

wats also intresting about this map is that it plays completley differently depending on where you are playing. surfing in america pretty much never happens and it doesnt really have to because the hardest people to beat, instead of doing what most high elo euro do which is what i previously mentioned, americans walk into you, so you are pretty much always at 100 damage direct range whereas in europe ur always at like 40 damage range so u gotta play accordingly. instead of walking into the free directs that euros will make u play into, u pretty much have to surf and if u do it right then it doesn't matter but in NA where i guess u are its just a matter of dealong witb being juggled which u get used to over time like i find i hit more headshot rockets in NA even tho i have 150 ping just cause i got used to it and as well as their playstyles allow for things like that
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#18
17 Frags +
joshuawnsnip

This is why I come to this website

[quote=joshuawn]snip[/quote]
This is why I come to this website
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#19
38 Frags +

Yall downvoting vis cause his statement is unpopular but he's right. Op didnt ask how to have the most fun, he asked how to win.

Yall downvoting vis cause his statement is unpopular but he's right. Op didnt ask how to have the most fun, he asked how to win.
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#20
36 Frags +

qsd

qsd
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#21
3 Frags +

DO NOT JUMP

DO NOT JUMP
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#22
2 Frags +
joshuawnnerd essay

part 2 of mge essay when?

[quote=joshuawn]nerd essay[/quote]
part 2 of mge essay when?
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#23
25 Frags +
joshuawnepic mge essay

stream more pls

[quote=joshuawn]epic mge essay[/quote]

stream more pls
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#24
3 Frags +

Shoot and move better than the enemy.

Shoot and move better than the enemy.
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#25
9 Frags +
RobbeeVis could 20-0 everyone who downfragged him

he's being downfragged cause he thinks he's not an mge lord when he's a MASSIVE mge lord

save this cfg as ammomod.cfg:

m_pitch 0
unbind w
unbind s
unbind space
unbind shift
unbind ctrl
say "!add mge"
[quote=Robbee]Vis could 20-0 everyone who downfragged him[/quote]

he's being downfragged cause he thinks he's not an mge lord when he's a MASSIVE mge lord

save this cfg as ammomod.cfg:

[code]m_pitch 0
unbind w
unbind s
unbind space
unbind shift
unbind ctrl
say "!add mge"
[/code]
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#26
-13 Frags +
gemmRobbeeVis could 20-0 everyone who downfragged him
he's being downfragged cause he thinks he's not an mge lord when he's a MASSIVE mge lord

Is MGE lord one that plays a lot of mge or one that wins most of his games? Because I do neither.

[quote=gemm][quote=Robbee]Vis could 20-0 everyone who downfragged him[/quote]

he's being downfragged cause he thinks he's not an mge lord when he's a MASSIVE mge lord
[/quote]
Is MGE lord one that plays a lot of mge or one that wins most of his games? Because I do neither.
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#27
0 Frags +

i love these mge essays that i will never read

VisIs MGE lord one that plays a lot of mge or one that wins most of his games? Because I do neither.

mge lord is basically a term that applies to anyone as long as they win against you. feel free to call everyone a mge lord if you lose.

i love these mge essays that i will never read
[quote=Vis]Is MGE lord one that plays a lot of mge or one that wins most of his games? Because I do neither.[/quote]

mge lord is basically a term that applies to anyone as long as they win against you. feel free to call everyone a mge lord if you lose.
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#28
-4 Frags +

you gotta believe in urself bro...thats all there is to it...

you gotta believe in urself bro...thats all there is to it...
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#29
-8 Frags +

-
Y'all dum

EDIT: WHOOOOOOPS I LINKED WRONG VID https://youtu.be/W8LsgzJguFg

-
Y'all dum


EDIT: WHOOOOOOPS I LINKED WRONG VID https://youtu.be/W8LsgzJguFg
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#30
refresh.tf
0 Frags +
charlehttps://youtu.be/jrimC9JDHG8
Y'all dum

His opponent doesn't know how to play though

[quote=charle]https://youtu.be/jrimC9JDHG8
Y'all dum[/quote]
His opponent doesn't know how to play though
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