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I turned 34 back in June. Used to skateboard, snowboard, did a lot between my teens and 20's. I threw out my back this morning trying to move a entertainment center I got from a thrift shop, I feel so messed up. Idk whats up, I'm in decent shape IMO, I kept myself pretty tight each day after I stopped skating, snowboarding, was kinda forced to end that after I moved to Florida, I did small runs each day, watched my weight, etc. Recently I got into dead lifting the last 3 months because I wanted to pursue a job as a body removal technician, that requires a lot. Idk if I'm over doing it, I felt like I was better off before I started focusing on work.

Anyone else dealing with this? I typed this up in bed and I literally cant use the bathroom right now without holding a wall, usually I'm good with heavy work and this is just such a surprise for me. I cant even sleep on my sides without muscle spasms. Usually I do sleep like that, I cant really fall asleep on my back and I'm stuck feeling like I'm gunna go back and forth between rem sleep and waking dreams.

I turned 34 back in June. Used to skateboard, snowboard, did a lot between my teens and 20's. I threw out my back this morning trying to move a entertainment center I got from a thrift shop, I feel so messed up. Idk whats up, I'm in decent shape IMO, I kept myself pretty tight each day after I stopped skating, snowboarding, was kinda forced to end that after I moved to Florida, I did small runs each day, watched my weight, etc. Recently I got into dead lifting the last 3 months because I wanted to pursue a job as a body removal technician, that requires a lot. Idk if I'm over doing it, I felt like I was better off before I started focusing on work.

Anyone else dealing with this? I typed this up in bed and I literally cant use the bathroom right now without holding a wall, usually I'm good with heavy work and this is just such a surprise for me. I cant even sleep on my sides without muscle spasms. Usually I do sleep like that, I cant really fall asleep on my back and I'm stuck feeling like I'm gunna go back and forth between rem sleep and waking dreams.
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Yoga time!

Yoga time!
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go to the doctor

go to the doctor
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cbd

cbd
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Harrisgo to the doctor

going to my chiropractor today, idk if thats going to make a difference or not

BACTERIAcbd

yea that might help now but I I'm tryin to figure out what I gotta do for something long term.

siyoYoga time!

I do stretches each morning, I got a routine setup before working out, its usually been pretty good, I feel like I've lifted way more then what I did this morning, idk if its just built up strain, or I didnt do something right before hauling this thing in, I'm doing everything my trainer told me and just seems so offbeat.

[quote=Harris]go to the doctor[/quote]

going to my chiropractor today, idk if thats going to make a difference or not

[quote=BACTERIA]cbd[/quote]

yea that might help now but I I'm tryin to figure out what I gotta do for something long term.

[quote=siyo]Yoga time![/quote]

I do stretches each morning, I got a routine setup before working out, its usually been pretty good, I feel like I've lifted way more then what I did this morning, idk if its just built up strain, or I didnt do something right before hauling this thing in, I'm doing everything my trainer told me and just seems so offbeat.
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BrockI wanted to pursue a job as a body removal technician.

What a sentence

[quote=Brock]I wanted to pursue a job as a body removal technician.[/quote]

What a sentence
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Chiropractors will usually give you a short term fix (avoid adjustments, though they can give some useful exercises) and not treat the root cause. Also chiropractic adjustments are possibly dangerous, there are stories of them rupturing blood vessels and causing strokes/haemorrhage (go to a doctor).

Chiropractors will usually give you a short term fix (avoid adjustments, though they can give some useful exercises) and not treat the root cause. Also chiropractic adjustments are possibly dangerous, there are stories of them rupturing blood vessels and causing strokes/haemorrhage (go to a doctor).
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LupusBrockI wanted to pursue a job as a body removal technician.
What a sentence

35 an hour on call for 8 hours is pretty good, however yea its a shitty job if you cant handle it emotionally and to be fair, with respect to a critical sense of smell. Florida has a lot of retired elderly and my area alone has people passing away constantly. Its not for the weak of heart, but considering my feelings towards the subject, I think I can handle the grief and its territory. Its a sad subject. A decent family member of mine introduced me to the field, he is a anesthesiologist and during his later years of school was a ambulance driver. Kinda want to see myself as something similar in his shoes, IMO its not even remotely close but its a job.

Edit: for the record, that rate is for night shift hours, 45 hours a week. I'm pretty much making a transition out of comp because its a solid career for me long term. Its the reason I've slowed down the last two months and picked up handling ultiduo as a UGC admin. Its been a hard transition for me, It kinda just in the end falls into the title of this thread.

[quote=Lupus][quote=Brock]I wanted to pursue a job as a body removal technician.[/quote]

What a sentence[/quote]

35 an hour on call for 8 hours is pretty good, however yea its a shitty job if you cant handle it emotionally and to be fair, with respect to a critical sense of smell. Florida has a lot of retired elderly and my area alone has people passing away constantly. Its not for the weak of heart, but considering my feelings towards the subject, I think I can handle the grief and its territory. Its a sad subject. A decent family member of mine introduced me to the field, he is a anesthesiologist and during his later years of school was a ambulance driver. Kinda want to see myself as something similar in his shoes, IMO its not even remotely close but its a job.

Edit: for the record, that rate is for night shift hours, 45 hours a week. I'm pretty much making a transition out of comp because its a solid career for me long term. Its the reason I've slowed down the last two months and picked up handling ultiduo as a UGC admin. Its been a hard transition for me, It kinda just in the end falls into the title of this thread.
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Small advice from a 45 year old. Be slower and more deliberate with your activities, especially strength type. I was like you in my 20's, fit, active, strong, and did everything fast. Just about everything you mention is strength based so make it a point to go slower and stop thinking you are 20 years old! Its hard, I still think and do things I did a million times until I hurt myself. :)

That aside, if you are struggling to piss and sleep, you need to get to the doctors office ASAP. That is probably not a "getting old" thing. Hopefully you just have temporary muscle issues but get a medical examination to rule other shit out.

Small advice from a 45 year old. Be slower and more deliberate with your activities, especially strength type. I was like you in my 20's, fit, active, strong, and did everything fast. Just about everything you mention is strength based so make it a point to go slower and stop thinking you are 20 years old! Its hard, I still think and do things I did a million times until I hurt myself. :)

That aside, if you are struggling to piss and sleep, you need to get to the doctors office ASAP. That is probably not a "getting old" thing. Hopefully you just have temporary muscle issues but get a medical examination to rule other shit out.
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SpaceCadetSmall advice from a 45 year old. Be slower and more deliberate with your activities, especially strength type. I was like you in my 20's, fit, active, strong, and did everything fast. Just about everything you mention is strength based so make it a point to go slower and stop thinking you are 20 years old! Its hard, I still think and do things I did a million times until I hurt myself. :)

That aside, if you are struggling to piss and sleep, you need to get to the doctors office ASAP. That is probably not a "getting old" thing. Hopefully you just have temporary muscle issues but get a medical examination to rule other shit out.

It feels like its just muscle spasms, I do plan on getting checked out asap from a clinic. I do agree I gotta slow down, just thought maybe considering how much I invested in my fitness over the years, things would had been better. The only thing that seemed off the last few years was my hands, but considering my previous background in art and of course gaming that came across normal.

[quote=SpaceCadet]Small advice from a 45 year old. Be slower and more deliberate with your activities, especially strength type. I was like you in my 20's, fit, active, strong, and did everything fast. Just about everything you mention is strength based so make it a point to go slower and stop thinking you are 20 years old! Its hard, I still think and do things I did a million times until I hurt myself. :)

That aside, if you are struggling to piss and sleep, you need to get to the doctors office ASAP. That is probably not a "getting old" thing. Hopefully you just have temporary muscle issues but get a medical examination to rule other shit out.[/quote]

It feels like its just muscle spasms, I do plan on getting checked out asap from a clinic. I do agree I gotta slow down, just thought maybe considering how much I invested in my fitness over the years, things would had been better. The only thing that seemed off the last few years was my hands, but considering my previous background in art and of course gaming that came across normal.
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Sounds like u fucked up ur back doing deadlifts? Don't want to assume but do u have experience with weightlifting

Sounds like u fucked up ur back doing deadlifts? Don't want to assume but do u have experience with weightlifting
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craySounds like u fucked up ur back doing deadlifts? Don't want to assume but do u have experience with weightlifting

I started with a trainer that I'm paying for, its been a very slow start. I'm literally easing into it. I havent dont anything I wasnt comfortable with and I've been very honest about when I felt like I was overdoing it. With that in mind, this stupid ass entertainment center wasn't much, I used to haul heavier stuff back when I worked at this same exact place when I was working in their warehouse. At this point idk if its just bad luck for me or tension being built up over time, but perhaps I am overdoing it with the deadlifting, it just seems so odd that this thing got me so messed up.

[quote=cray]Sounds like u fucked up ur back doing deadlifts? Don't want to assume but do u have experience with weightlifting[/quote]

I started with a trainer that I'm paying for, its been a very slow start. I'm literally easing into it. I havent dont anything I wasnt comfortable with and I've been very honest about when I felt like I was overdoing it. With that in mind, this stupid ass entertainment center wasn't much, I used to haul heavier stuff back when I worked at this same exact place when I was working in their warehouse. At this point idk if its just bad luck for me or tension being built up over time, but perhaps I am overdoing it with the deadlifting, it just seems so odd that this thing got me so messed up.
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cray but do u have experience with weightlifting

How can you even ask this question to someone named brock? :)

[quote=cray] but do u have experience with weightlifting[/quote]

How can you even ask this question to someone named brock? :)
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BrocksiyoYoga time!
I do stretches each morning, I got a routine setup before working out, its usually been pretty good, I feel like I've lifted way more then what I did this morning, idk if its just built up strain, or I didnt do something right before hauling this thing in, I'm doing everything my trainer told me and just seems so offbeat.

Ah I was gonna say. I try to do yoga a ton and some days of working out instead of focusing on strength I focus on core. I was reading the nba subreddit one day and incorporated some of the workouts from this Wembanyama video and it helped a ton since then

Way more great to focus on quality of reps rather than how many i can do quickly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgpQb7EbhLc

[quote=Brock]
[quote=siyo]Yoga time![/quote]

I do stretches each morning, I got a routine setup before working out, its usually been pretty good, I feel like I've lifted way more then what I did this morning, idk if its just built up strain, or I didnt do something right before hauling this thing in, I'm doing everything my trainer told me and just seems so offbeat.[/quote]

Ah I was gonna say. I try to do yoga a ton and some days of working out instead of focusing on strength I focus on core. I was reading the nba subreddit one day and incorporated some of the workouts from this Wembanyama video and it helped a ton since then

Way more great to focus on quality of reps rather than how many i can do quickly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgpQb7EbhLc
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47 here. (fuck, I had held out hope all along I was at least younger than SpaceCadet)
Getting older has consequences
I just finished doing a 6-month rehab of a frozen shoulder that seems to have been caused by bad posture working from home during the pandemic, for example.
Little things like sleeping incorrectly can mess up my neck for a couple of days.

For reasons mentioned above, I would stay away from chiropractors. Spine issues can become extremely serious, but also minor things can mess them up for long periods. There are good exercise routines to help, but you might not want to do them until you heal up. You put a lot of stress on your spine and back muscles doing things all day, it's very hard to stop aggravating a minor injury, especially as you age and your recovery periods get longer.

I highly, highly recommend finding an orthopedic practice if you have persistent or chronic issues with your joints at all.

47 here. (fuck, I had held out hope all along I was at least younger than SpaceCadet)
Getting older has consequences
I just finished doing a 6-month rehab of a frozen shoulder that seems to have been caused by bad posture working from home during the pandemic, for example.
Little things like sleeping incorrectly can mess up my neck for a couple of days.

For reasons mentioned above, I would stay away from chiropractors. Spine issues can become extremely serious, but also minor things can mess them up for long periods. There are good exercise routines to help, but you might not want to do them until you heal up. You put a lot of stress on your spine and back muscles doing things all day, it's very hard to stop aggravating a minor injury, especially as you age and your recovery periods get longer.

I highly, highly recommend finding an orthopedic practice if you have persistent or chronic issues with your joints at all.
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Hey Brock. I am also old and in my 30s. I've had my back go from random things, as well as deadlifting.

I can understand that getting healthcare can be scary for a lot of reasons but first and foremost, if you can without it being at great toll on you, visit your doctor, nipping these things in the bud before they go into something bigger is best for everyone, you and insurers included.

However here is some simply things you can do;

1. Heat = recover quicker. Place a hold water bottle on the affected area whenever sitting or lying down.
2. Little movement is good. Exercising your back best you can is good for recovery, it is the backbone of rehab for injuries. Start off at 10% usual weight then work.up from there
3. Relax best you can. Lay about in bed and binge watch Netflix, take ibuprofen and paracetamol for the pain and sleep as much as you can, sleep is gonna be difficult I know because it's surprisingly back intensive but grabbing any quality is good
4. Stop doing deadlifts. Getting a better deadlift is only good at helping you get a better deadlift. There's better and safer way to work your back and legs. Unless you like the powerlifting aspect, no body swear by deadlifts anymore in bodybuilding or in fitness
5. You'll feel like this will be it forever. It won't be, this too shall pass, chin up. Take in little victories. If it doesn't show any improvement (not completely gone, just improvement)after 4 weeks, see a physical therapist or doctor
6. chiropractor are quacks. Physiotherapists or doctors are better

This may seem obvious to all but I thought I'd mention just incase

Hey Brock. I am also old and in my 30s. I've had my back go from random things, as well as deadlifting.

I can understand that getting healthcare can be scary for a lot of reasons but first and foremost, if you can without it being at great toll on you, visit your doctor, nipping these things in the bud before they go into something bigger is best for everyone, you and insurers included.

However here is some simply things you can do;

1. Heat = recover quicker. Place a hold water bottle on the affected area whenever sitting or lying down.
2. Little movement is good. Exercising your back best you can is good for recovery, it is the backbone of rehab for injuries. Start off at 10% usual weight then work.up from there
3. Relax best you can. Lay about in bed and binge watch Netflix, take ibuprofen and paracetamol for the pain and sleep as much as you can, sleep is gonna be difficult I know because it's surprisingly back intensive but grabbing any quality is good
4. Stop doing deadlifts. Getting a better deadlift is only good at helping you get a better deadlift. There's better and safer way to work your back and legs. Unless you like the powerlifting aspect, no body swear by deadlifts anymore in bodybuilding or in fitness
5. You'll feel like this will be it forever. It won't be, this too shall pass, chin up. Take in little victories. If it doesn't show any improvement (not completely gone, just improvement)after 4 weeks, see a physical therapist or doctor
6. chiropractor are quacks. Physiotherapists or doctors are better

This may seem obvious to all but I thought I'd mention just incase
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plinko47 here. (fuck, I had held out hope all along I was at least younger than SpaceCadet)

ROFL, i feel a lot better now. Let me know when you get that first AARP letter in the mail

[quote=plinko]47 here. (fuck, I had held out hope all along I was at least younger than SpaceCadet)
[/quote]

ROFL, i feel a lot better now. Let me know when you get that first AARP letter in the mail
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"Stop doing deadlifts" is the worst possible advice, I guarantee the guy telling you that is a skinnyfat redditor. There is greater risk of injury from NOT doing compound barbell exercises than from properly doing any one of them. Deadlifts are even recommended for seniors and injury rehab.

bodybuilding is a pharmaceutical contest and completely irrelevant to any discussion of physical fitness

It's actually just dangerous listening to non-lifters like turbotabs pretend to be experts. You hurt your back from twisting while moving the entertainment center thing, not from deadlifts.

"Stop doing deadlifts" is the worst possible advice, I guarantee the guy telling you that is a skinnyfat redditor. There is greater risk of injury from NOT doing compound barbell exercises than from properly doing any one of them. Deadlifts are even recommended for seniors and injury rehab.

bodybuilding is a pharmaceutical contest and completely irrelevant to any discussion of physical fitness

It's actually just dangerous listening to non-lifters like turbotabs pretend to be experts. You hurt your back from twisting while moving the entertainment center thing, not from deadlifts.
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loot"stop doing deadlifts" is the worst possible advice

bodybuilding is a pharmaceutical contest and completely irrelevant to any discussion of physical fitness

This is only at extreme levels. Saying any sort of physical activity is completely irrelevant to fitness is naive.

If your goal is just fitness and health then I would go as far as to recommend them even less

I'll edit a clarification in my previous post but let me say it again. Deadlifts aren't NEEDED, so in a post about your back health and goals; is there better alternatives? Yes but keep doing deadlifts if you find them fun and can take the bad with the good i.e. the risk of further injury

[quote=loot]"stop doing deadlifts" is the worst possible advice

bodybuilding is a pharmaceutical contest and completely irrelevant to any discussion of physical fitness[/quote]

This is only at extreme levels. Saying any sort of physical activity is completely irrelevant to fitness is naive.

If your goal is just fitness and health then I would go as far as to recommend them [b]even less[/b]

I'll edit a clarification in my previous post but let me say it again. Deadlifts aren't NEEDED, so in a post about your back health and goals; is there better alternatives? Yes but keep doing deadlifts if you find them fun and can take the bad with the good i.e. the risk of further injury
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you have to know your body and its limitations. as you get older you will hurt random parts of your body in the stupidest ways. the other day i sprained a tendon in my hand from squeezing a bottle of ketchup. its just part of getting old and yes it sucks.

i also threw out my back landscaping when i was 21 and never been quite the same but you grow to manage it and avoid triggering it like being careful when bending pver and picking up stuff. never underestimate the power of R&R to recover. i took two weeks off cause i was bedridden and felt almost good as new

you have to know your body and its limitations. as you get older you will hurt random parts of your body in the stupidest ways. the other day i sprained a tendon in my hand from squeezing a bottle of ketchup. its just part of getting old and yes it sucks.

i also threw out my back landscaping when i was 21 and never been quite the same but you grow to manage it and avoid triggering it like being careful when bending pver and picking up stuff. never underestimate the power of R&R to recover. i took two weeks off cause i was bedridden and felt almost good as new
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Keep moving

Keep moving
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BrockI threw out my back this morning trying to move a entertainment center I got from a thrift shop, I feel so messed up.

A couple years back I had an injury at the gym while doing RDLs, original details are a bit shaky but either going up or coming down on the movement my lower back essentially gave out and curved. This resulted in a pretty audible pop I could feel, resulting in me having immense pain down the middle of my lower back which made it painful to walk, sit and sometimes lay down.

I wound up taking an entire year off of the gym because of this injury, speaking with my family at the time who work in healthcare they essentially chalked it up to a muscle sprain / strain and that I should just relax on the gym and be more careful in general. It's been something like 2.5 years since this original injury and I have returned to the gym and got back to mostly relative strength as I was prior to the injury, granted I still have occasional bouts of pain in exercises that pressure my lower back, notably squats.

With that being said, TurboTabs has provided some pretty sage advice that I will mostly just repeat with my own spin.

  1. Go to a doctor (not a chiropractor) as soon as possible and try to get into PT. I naively put off going to the doctor for over a year, once I finally did the doctor basically blew off any concern I had, having literally only done an X-ray image as diagnostics, he didn't even recommend PT which shocked me. If you can afford it I sincerely implore you to do so.
  2. Take at minimum 1 week off of any stressful activity impacting your back, if possible.
  3. RICE, rest, ice, compression, elevation
  4. Once you feel comfortable, aim to start doing light bodyweight stretches and movements that activate your back where the injury occurred. One of the biggest problems associated with any injury is that after you injure yourself you tend to become super careful about the injured areas movement and activation that you end up weakening the muscle way more than the injury did, resulting in a higher likelihood of reinjury. Which is why doing PT is important.
  5. Once you've rested enough and feel safe enough to return to the gym or other activities, be humble with yourself and do not immediately try to workout with the same intensity you would prior. Start from scratch (the bar) and work yourself back up, be slow and deliberate with form.
BrockI'm good with heavy work and this is just such a surprise for me.

I felt the same way following my injury, was only doing 1pl8 RDLs, a weight I was very comfortable with. Keep your head up high and focus on recovery and treatment and you should come out of this very close to how you were pre-injury.

[quote=Brock]I threw out my back this morning trying to move a entertainment center I got from a thrift shop, I feel so messed up.[/quote]
A couple years back I had an injury at the gym while doing RDLs, original details are a bit shaky but either going up or coming down on the movement my lower back essentially gave out and curved. This resulted in a pretty audible pop I could feel, resulting in me having immense pain down the middle of my lower back which made it painful to walk, sit and sometimes lay down.

I wound up taking an entire year off of the gym because of this injury, speaking with my family at the time who work in healthcare they essentially chalked it up to a muscle sprain / strain and that I should just relax on the gym and be more careful in general. It's been something like 2.5 years since this original injury and I have returned to the gym and got back to mostly relative strength as I was prior to the injury, granted I still have occasional bouts of pain in exercises that pressure my lower back, notably squats.

With that being said, TurboTabs has provided some pretty sage advice that I will mostly just repeat with my own spin.

[olist]
[*] Go to a doctor (not a chiropractor) as soon as possible and try to get into PT. I naively put off going to the doctor for over a year, once I finally did the doctor basically blew off any concern I had, having literally only done an X-ray image as diagnostics, he didn't even recommend PT which shocked me. If you can afford it I sincerely implore you to do so.
[*] Take at minimum 1 week off of any stressful activity impacting your back, if possible.
[*] RICE, rest, ice, compression, elevation
[*] Once you feel comfortable, aim to start doing light bodyweight stretches and movements that activate your back where the injury occurred. One of the biggest problems associated with any injury is that after you injure yourself you tend to become super careful about the injured areas movement and activation that you end up weakening the muscle way more than the injury did, resulting in a higher likelihood of reinjury. Which is why doing PT is important.
[*] Once you've rested enough and feel safe enough to return to the gym or other activities, be humble with yourself and do not immediately try to workout with the same intensity you would prior. Start from scratch (the bar) and work yourself back up, be slow and deliberate with form.
[/olist]

[quote=Brock]I'm good with heavy work and this is just such a surprise for me.[/quote]
I felt the same way following my injury, was only doing 1pl8 RDLs, a weight I was very comfortable with. Keep your head up high and focus on recovery and treatment and you should come out of this very close to how you were pre-injury.
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Just an update, icing my back, got a pack on my neck. Thanks for the feedback. For the record, this really hasn't been an issue most of my life, I've been hurt a lot skating and snowboarding but I always walked away and just was able to deal with it. I guess maybe things are adding up and I gotta pursue actual treatments. My boss told me to see and doctor and get on muscle relaxers, but fuck that shit. Id prefer to do what I can and avoid that garbage, pain killers, etc. its just not a solution. I don't wanna be crippled by compensation from meds, its just temporary relief at that point.

Just an update, icing my back, got a pack on my neck. Thanks for the feedback. For the record, this really hasn't been an issue most of my life, I've been hurt a lot skating and snowboarding but I always walked away and just was able to deal with it. I guess maybe things are adding up and I gotta pursue actual treatments. My boss told me to see and doctor and get on muscle relaxers, but fuck that shit. Id prefer to do what I can and avoid that garbage, pain killers, etc. its just not a solution. I don't wanna be crippled by compensation from meds, its just temporary relief at that point.
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Very glad to hear you're taking it seriously. But, just fyi, muscle relaxers and painkillers are extremely different things. If you're worried about some of the scarier parts of prescription painkillers, (and it's good to be wary, though they are extremely useful for many people used correctly!), that really has no bearing on most of what they might prescribe as a muscle relaxant. At least be forward and clear with the Doc/PA about your concerns and I hope they can help find things that work for you.

Very glad to hear you're taking it seriously. But, just fyi, muscle relaxers and painkillers are extremely different things. If you're worried about some of the scarier parts of prescription painkillers, (and it's good to be wary, though they are extremely useful for many people used correctly!), that really has no bearing on most of what they might prescribe as a muscle relaxant. At least be forward and clear with the Doc/PA about your concerns and I hope they can help find things that work for you.
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