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#121
23 Frags +

We all read what he did deleting it isn't covering up anything.

We all read what he did deleting it isn't covering up anything.
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#122
UGC
-13 Frags +

It's not a "cover up", it's respecting the privacy of people who wanted all of this to be private.

It's not a "cover up", it's respecting the privacy of people who wanted all of this to be private.
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#123
25 Frags +
GeneralNickIt's not a "cover up", it's respecting the privacy of people who wanted all of this to be private.

not sure how his ban reason being public undermines the privacy of the individual who is being kept private but whatever, behavior like this in fact undermines the individuals privacy, I for one know that if it was just public what alfa did but not to who I would never know who he did it to but instead the persons name is in the public consciousness now, great job guys!

[quote=GeneralNick]It's not a "cover up", it's respecting the privacy of people who wanted all of this to be private.[/quote]
not sure how his ban reason being public undermines the privacy of the individual who is being kept private but whatever, behavior like this in fact undermines the individuals privacy, I for one know that if it was just public what alfa did but not to who I would never know who he did it to but instead the persons name is in the public consciousness now, great job guys!
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#124
62 Frags +

I'm sure RGL would be super surprised if predators were to, say, do the same thing again as most predators do, and future victims (maybe some that are newer to comp tf2) have no idea that they're banned for predatory behavior because their ban reason is so vague. This is kinda why a sex offenders registry exists. So that future victims are aware that someone is a predator and to stay the fuck away from them. Simply banning them and RGL saying "yea just don't worry about it" isn't going to prevent predators from preying on future new players.

I'm sure RGL would be super surprised if predators were to, say, do the same thing again as most predators do, and future victims (maybe some that are newer to comp tf2) have no idea that they're banned for predatory behavior because their ban reason is so vague. This is kinda why a sex offenders registry exists. So that future victims are aware that someone is a predator and to stay the fuck away from them. Simply banning them and RGL saying "yea just don't worry about it" isn't going to prevent predators from preying on future new players.
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#125
16 Frags +

alfa spamming refresh waiting to see if someone posts what he actually did again

alfa spamming refresh waiting to see if someone posts what he actually did again
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#126
23 Frags +
pajaroI'm sure RGL would be super surprised if predators were to, say, do the same thing again as most predators do, and future victims (maybe some that are newer to comp tf2) have no idea that they're banned for predatory behavior because their ban reason is so vague. This is kinda why a sex offenders registry exists. So that future victims are aware that someone is a predator and to stay the fuck away from them. Simply banning them and RGL saying "yea just don't worry about it" isn't going to prevent predators from preying on future new players.

Also we literally have already had someone who was banned for predatory behavior attempting to come back into the community by trying to minimize their actions and claim their ban was unfair, this being a ban which was covered in a detailed article on RGL and about which the accusations were very publicly made. Obviously in this case the information was private and should be kept private, but a short notice stating the nature of the ban on their profile need not include anything about what happened, who was involved, or any other information that would be private or spread gossip. Lack of context about a ban invites misinformation about its justification or fairness that could potentially influence someone who wasn't around when it was made.

[quote=pajaro]I'm sure RGL would be super surprised if predators were to, say, do the same thing again as most predators do, and future victims (maybe some that are newer to comp tf2) have no idea that they're banned for predatory behavior because their ban reason is so vague. This is kinda why a sex offenders registry exists. So that future victims are aware that someone is a predator and to stay the fuck away from them. Simply banning them and RGL saying "yea just don't worry about it" isn't going to prevent predators from preying on future new players.[/quote]

Also we [url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/59217/warning-about-nursey-trying-to-come-back]literally have already had someone who was banned for predatory behavior attempting to come back into the community by trying to minimize their actions and claim their ban was unfair[/url], this being a ban which was covered in a detailed article on RGL and about which the accusations were very publicly made. Obviously in this case the information was private and should be kept private, but a short notice stating the nature of the ban on their profile need not include anything about what happened, who was involved, or any other information that would be private or spread gossip. Lack of context about a ban invites misinformation about its justification or fairness that could potentially influence someone who wasn't around when it was made.
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#127
31 Frags +

NURBEY #BlackLivesMatter
@NURBEYYY
·
Apr 30
I wanna be more depressed and pissed about shit like the "dont say gay" bill but after my ban years ago where people tied my gender identity to pedophilia Im just not shocked. People I grew up with in tf2 didnt have the balls to stand up to blatant horror like that, who will?

May 4
More RGL bans involving sexual stuff with minors that are labeled with "broke code of conduct" while my ban is "sexually harassing minors" while everyone else I have ever seen has been immensely more severe & I fail to see how they're even in the same place. What a load of shit.

may 15
https://twitter.com/NURBEYYY/status/1525668078637535239?s=20&t=JUvH_vdLhRiwqJf0VC3JSA

NURBEY #BlackLivesMatter
@NURBEYYY
·
Apr 30
I wanna be more depressed and pissed about shit like the "dont say gay" bill but after my ban years ago where people tied my gender identity to pedophilia Im just not shocked. People I grew up with in tf2 didnt have the balls to stand up to blatant horror like that, who will?

May 4
More RGL bans involving sexual stuff with minors that are labeled with "broke code of conduct" while my ban is "sexually harassing minors" while everyone else I have ever seen has been immensely more severe & I fail to see how they're even in the same place. What a load of shit.

may 15
https://twitter.com/NURBEYYY/status/1525668078637535239?s=20&t=JUvH_vdLhRiwqJf0VC3JSA
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#128
-19 Frags +
GeneralNickIt's not a "cover up", it's respecting the privacy of people who wanted all of this to be private.

Can we use this logic to lock the fucking thread please?

[quote=GeneralNick]It's not a "cover up", it's respecting the privacy of people who wanted all of this to be private.[/quote]
Can we use this logic to lock the fucking thread please?
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#129
20 Frags +
sacNURBEY #BlackLivesMatter
People I grew up with in tf2 didnt have the balls to stand up to blatant horror like that, who will?

why does this read as "the only people ive ever talked to are tf2 players"

[quote=sac]NURBEY #BlackLivesMatter
People I grew up with in tf2 didnt have the balls to stand up to blatant horror like that, who will?
[/quote]

why does this read as "the only people ive ever talked to are tf2 players"
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#130
18 Frags +
nurseyI wanna be more pissed about the "dont say gay" bill but after my ban where people tied my gender identity to pedophilia Im just not shocked

the news wont tell you that tf2 players were actually the largest pro-"dont say gay" voting demographic

[quote=nursey]I wanna be more pissed about the "dont say gay" bill but after my ban where people tied my gender identity to pedophilia Im just not shocked[/quote]
the news wont tell you that tf2 players were actually the largest pro-"dont say gay" voting demographic
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#131
11 Frags +

EDIT: (whoops my bad I responded to the wrong thread in my tabs while trying to look up shit about alfa due to the recent thread)

EDIT: (whoops my bad I responded to the wrong thread in my tabs while trying to look up shit about alfa due to the recent thread)
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#132
10 Frags +

Why would anyone have Alfa quotes on their prof and also commenting back and forth with him like

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060142949352099870/Screenshot_2023-01-04-12-29-17-572_com.android.chrome.jpg

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

??
Has he been proved innocent or smth

Why would anyone have Alfa quotes on their prof and also commenting back and forth with him like

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060142949352099870/Screenshot_2023-01-04-12-29-17-572_com.android.chrome.jpg[/img]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

??
Has he been proved innocent or smth
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#133
19 Frags +
waxWhy would anyone have Alfa quotes on their prof and also commenting back and forth with him like

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060142949352099870/Screenshot_2023-01-04-12-29-17-572_com.android.chrome.jpg

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

??
Has he been proved innocent or smth

im also confused because i see him playing pugs and other games with people like he did nothing?

[quote=wax]Why would anyone have Alfa quotes on their prof and also commenting back and forth with him like

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060142949352099870/Screenshot_2023-01-04-12-29-17-572_com.android.chrome.jpg[/img]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

??
Has he been proved innocent or smth[/quote]

im also confused because i see him playing pugs and other games with people like he did nothing?
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#134
12 Frags +
asshleywaxWhy would anyone have Alfa quotes on their prof and also commenting back and forth with him like

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060142949352099870/Screenshot_2023-01-04-12-29-17-572_com.android.chrome.jpg

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

??
Has he been proved innocent or smth

im also confused because i see him playing pugs and other games with people like he did nothing?

Bro what the fuck my thoughts exactly? I saw him playing EU scrims and I was like
You're really sitting in mumble with Alfa????

https://logs.tf/3261058
https://logs.tf/3261126
https://logs.tf/3291641

[quote=asshley][quote=wax]Why would anyone have Alfa quotes on their prof and also commenting back and forth with him like

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060142949352099870/Screenshot_2023-01-04-12-29-17-572_com.android.chrome.jpg[/img]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

??
Has he been proved innocent or smth[/quote]

im also confused because i see him playing pugs and other games with people like he did nothing?[/quote]

Bro what the fuck my thoughts exactly? I saw him playing EU scrims and I was like
You're really sitting in mumble with Alfa????

https://logs.tf/3261058
https://logs.tf/3261126
https://logs.tf/3291641
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#135
84 Frags +

I know he’s done some fucked up stuff before, but highlander medic?

I know he’s done some fucked up stuff before, but highlander medic?
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#136
3 Frags +
waxWhy would anyone have Alfa quotes on their prof and also commenting back and forth with him like

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060142949352099870/Screenshot_2023-01-04-12-29-17-572_com.android.chrome.jpg

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

??
Has he been proved innocent or smth

surprise surprise
https://imgur.com/t8HQCuV

[quote=wax]Why would anyone have Alfa quotes on their prof and also commenting back and forth with him like

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060142949352099870/Screenshot_2023-01-04-12-29-17-572_com.android.chrome.jpg[/img]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

??
Has he been proved innocent or smth[/quote]
surprise surprise
https://imgur.com/t8HQCuV
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#137
36 Frags +

It's kind of ridiculous to me that people are still friends and scrimming with this guy and nobody says anything. I'm trying to imagine what it would be like if people were pugscrimming with or ringing nursey. There's no point in permabanning a player if he can still actively participate and do everything except play matches. The people who scrim with alfa need to be banned.

This isn't novel either, it's right there in RGL's rules and they aren't enforcing it for some reason

[1002.4.2] - Permanently banned players in a scrimmage
Permanently banned players with bans for one of the following are not allowed in any scrim or pickup game scrim consisting of at least one RGL team:
Breaking RGL's player code of conduct
The leader(s), active RGL player(s), and/or scrim organizer(s) responsible for that player's participation are subject to a possible league ban, in addition to a minor team warning.

Is this rule not being enforced because the people breaking it are top invite players? Did the admins get together and decide to give them an exception because they're good at the game? And do these people really have no backbone that they won't refuse to play with him? It isn't like they don't know what they did. This is a disgrace.

"Purge the evil person from among you." (1 Corinthians 5:13)

It's kind of ridiculous to me that people are still friends and scrimming with this guy and nobody says anything. I'm trying to imagine what it would be like if people were pugscrimming with or ringing nursey. There's no point in permabanning a player if he can still actively participate and do everything except play matches. The people who scrim with alfa need to be banned.

This isn't novel either, it's right there in RGL's rules and they aren't enforcing it for some reason
[quote][1002.4.2] - Permanently banned players in a scrimmage
Permanently banned players with bans for one of the following are not allowed in any scrim or pickup game scrim consisting of at least one RGL team:
Breaking RGL's player code of conduct
The leader(s), active RGL player(s), and/or scrim organizer(s) responsible for that player's participation are subject to a possible league ban, in addition to a minor team warning.
[/quote]

Is this rule not being enforced because the people breaking it are top invite players? Did the admins get together and decide to give them an exception because they're good at the game? And do these people really have no backbone that they won't refuse to play with him? It isn't like they don't know what they did. This is a disgrace.

"Purge the evil person from among you." (1 Corinthians 5:13)
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#138
13 Frags +
Jw"Purge the evil person from among you." (1 Corinthians 5:13)

“Very well,” he said, “I will let you bake your bread over cow dung instead of human excrement.” (Ezekiel 4:15)

[quote=Jw]"Purge the evil person from among you." (1 Corinthians 5:13)[/quote]

“Very well,” he said, “I will let you bake your bread over cow dung instead of human excrement.” (Ezekiel 4:15)
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#139
83 Frags +
coyo_geezerthe silence from alfa do kinda be deafening...

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[quote=coyo_geezer]the silence from alfa do kinda be deafening...[/quote]
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#140
8 Frags +

Afaik you need to report these to rgl. Otherwise nothing gets done, ringing or pug scriming perma banned players of suck nature should lead to bans 100%.

Afaik you need to report these to rgl. Otherwise nothing gets done, ringing or pug scriming perma banned players of suck nature should lead to bans 100%.
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#141
20 Frags +
JohhnyFromCaliAfaik you need to report these to rgl. Otherwise nothing gets done, ringing or pug scriming perma banned players of suck nature should lead to bans 100%.

I reported logs with Alfa to rgl to no avail. They seem to not care

[quote=JohhnyFromCali]Afaik you need to report these to rgl. Otherwise nothing gets done, ringing or pug scriming perma banned players of suck nature should lead to bans 100%.[/quote]
I reported logs with Alfa to rgl to no avail. They seem to not care
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#142
8 Frags +

new rgl leadership do something!

new rgl leadership do something!
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#143
55 Frags +

Alfa pugscrims with MAL (or other top invite players) in the off-season, when technically some teams doesn't exist yet. Then, according to the rules, as long as neither team in the scrim is officially rostered, RGL's hands are tied. MAL KNOWINGLY does this, as I've seen this explanation be a command in tripbwai's chat. They just love bending the rules in their favor I guess.

Maybe the people in MAL can give an explanation as to why alfa is so innocent that he's still a mainstay in their mumble.

Alfa pugscrims with MAL (or other top invite players) in the off-season, when technically some teams doesn't exist yet. Then, according to the rules, as long as neither team in the scrim is officially rostered, RGL's hands are tied. MAL KNOWINGLY does this, as I've seen this explanation be a command in tripbwai's chat. They just love bending the rules in their favor I guess.

Maybe the people in MAL can give an explanation as to why alfa is so innocent that he's still a mainstay in their mumble.
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#144
40 Frags +
hannahI reported logs with Alfa to rgl to no avail. They seem to not care

Not that I disagree that something should be done, but there is some limit to what they can do. They had to draw a clear line somewhere, but sometimes that just gives people the ability to get as close to the line as they can without crossing it. I mean, they did already perma-ban him and he's not allowed to participate in anything RGL related, so they did do something.

Realistically what needs to be done is people need to collectively hold people like alfa (rapist) accountable for the shit they do (like rape) and stop enabling them. People already did it with nursey, why can't it be done with alfa?

Same with the people currently enabling it. Like, b4nny, bro, you really can't find 6 other random morons to pug scrim you for stream content so you just say fuck it and play with the rapist? Just my 2 cents here, but maybe the "face of the community" can at the very least not help establish a status-quo that if enough people like you, you can rape someone and still get asked to +1 for a pug scrim lol

[quote=hannah]I reported logs with Alfa to rgl to no avail. They seem to not care[/quote]

Not that I disagree that something should be done, but there is some limit to what they can do. They had to draw a clear line somewhere, but sometimes that just gives people the ability to get as close to the line as they can without crossing it. I mean, they did already perma-ban him and he's not allowed to participate in anything RGL related, so they did do something.

Realistically what needs to be done is people need to collectively hold people like alfa (rapist) accountable for the shit they do (like rape) and stop enabling them. People already did it with nursey, why can't it be done with alfa?

Same with the people currently enabling it. Like, b4nny, bro, you really can't find 6 other random morons to pug scrim you for stream content so you just say fuck it and play with the rapist? Just my 2 cents here, but maybe the "face of the community" can at the very least not help establish a status-quo that if enough people like you, you can rape someone and still get asked to +1 for a pug scrim lol
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#145
53 Frags +
dave2Just my 2 cents here, but maybe the "face of the community" can at the very least not help establish a status-quo that if enough people like you, you can rape someone and still get asked to +1 for a pug scrim lol

You’re expecting a lot from a guy who still has Nursey added on steam

[quote=dave2]
Just my 2 cents here, but maybe the "face of the community" can at the very least not help establish a status-quo that if enough people like you, you can rape someone and still get asked to +1 for a pug scrim lol[/quote]

You’re expecting a lot from a guy who still has Nursey added on steam
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#146
11 Frags +
dave2Realistically what needs to be done is people need to collectively hold people like alfa (rapist) accountable for the shit they do (like rape) and stop enabling them. People already did it with nursey, why can't it be done with alfa?

bc this is whats said behind the scenes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060289353617768489/angie-10.png

this is the kind of disgusting commentary and dont forget loads of ppl are incels so its fairly to convince them alfa is a victim lmao

its this subhuman saying it btw https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

also ive heard before that "if alfa is a rapist then how come na invite still plays with him!" so ppl rly do think he did nothing instead of realizing you can be inV1t3 and very socially crippled/chronically online

[quote=dave2]Realistically what needs to be done is people need to collectively hold people like alfa (rapist) accountable for the shit they do (like rape) and stop enabling them. People already did it with nursey, why can't it be done with alfa?[/quote]

bc this is whats said behind the scenes
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060289353617768489/angie-10.png[/img]
this is the kind of disgusting commentary and dont forget loads of ppl are incels so its fairly to convince them alfa is a victim lmao

its this subhuman saying it btw https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

also ive heard before that "if alfa is a rapist then how come na invite still plays with him!" so ppl rly do think he did nothing instead of realizing you can be inV1t3 and very socially crippled/chronically online
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#147
-10 Frags +
waxbc this is whats said behind the scenes
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060289353617768489/angie-10.png
this is the kind of disgusting commentary and dont forget loads of ppl are incels so its fairly to convince them alfa is a victim lmao

its this subhuman saying it btw https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

where did you get that screenshot?

[quote=wax]
bc this is whats said behind the scenes
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060289353617768489/angie-10.png[/img]
this is the kind of disgusting commentary and dont forget loads of ppl are incels so its fairly to convince them alfa is a victim lmao

its this subhuman saying it btw https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709
[/quote]

where did you get that screenshot?
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#148
18 Frags +
waxits this subhuman saying it btw https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

That's the rgl staff member who got banned for leaking the docs. They are just so fuckin retarded man

https://i.ibb.co/nC3036x/image.png

[quote=wax]
its this subhuman saying it btw https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709
[/quote]
That's the rgl staff member who got banned for leaking the docs. They are just so fuckin [h][u][b]retarded[/b][/u][/h] man
[img]https://i.ibb.co/nC3036x/image.png[/img]
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#149
20 Frags +
simba
where did you get that screenshot?

Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too

[quote=simba]

where did you get that screenshot?[/quote]
Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too
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#150
-22 Frags +
tiram_simba
where did you get that screenshot?
Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too

where did you got it from?

[quote=tiram_][quote=simba]

where did you get that screenshot?[/quote]
Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too[/quote]

where did you got it from?
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