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what league are y'all gonna play in
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just wondering how everyone feels about the recent proposals of TFCL, RGL and whatever other league tries to fill the gap ESEA left

just wondering how everyone feels about the recent proposals of TFCL, RGL and whatever other league tries to fill the gap ESEA left
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RGL probably unless ESL comes in with a LAN

TFCL and UGC are both literal jokes that I don't think are even in contention with ESL and RGL

RGL probably unless ESL comes in with a LAN

TFCL and UGC are both literal jokes that I don't think are even in contention with ESL and RGL
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jetzzzzzRGL probably unless ESL comes in with a LAN

TFCL and UGC are both literal jokes that I don't think are even in contention with ESL and RGL

What if RGL comes in with a lan? Do you think it'll be a competition or nah

[quote=jetzzzzz]RGL probably unless ESL comes in with a LAN

TFCL and UGC are both literal jokes that I don't think are even in contention with ESL and RGL[/quote]
What if RGL comes in with a lan? Do you think it'll be a competition or nah
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#4
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jetzzzzzunless ESL comes in with a LAN

how and why would ESL have a TF2 LAN

[quote=jetzzzzz]unless ESL comes in with a LAN[/quote]

how and why would ESL have a TF2 LAN
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#5
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wherever the invite teams go

wherever the invite teams go
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#6
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wherever tftv is allowed to cast i guess

wherever tftv is allowed to cast i guess
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#7
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bleghfarecjetzzzzzunless ESL comes in with a LAN
how and why would ESL have a TF2 LAN

cause according to some unknown myth we have infinite money in our bank accounts.

[quote=bleghfarec][quote=jetzzzzz]unless ESL comes in with a LAN[/quote]

how and why would ESL have a TF2 LAN[/quote]
cause according to some unknown myth we have infinite money in our bank accounts.
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#8
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bleghfarecjetzzzzzunless ESL comes in with a LAN
how and why would ESL have a TF2 LAN

idk man just listing why id choose ESL over RGL.

if neither had a LAN id definitely go with RGL since honestly I've had enough of playing tf2 on big platforms like FACEiT and ESEA. they dont give a shit about the game and the servers are ass. RGL is a community run league that has the interests of the community in mind while the companies just want $$

[quote=bleghfarec][quote=jetzzzzz]unless ESL comes in with a LAN[/quote]

how and why would ESL have a TF2 LAN[/quote]

idk man just listing why id choose ESL over RGL.

if neither had a LAN id definitely go with RGL since honestly I've had enough of playing tf2 on big platforms like FACEiT and ESEA. they dont give a shit about the game and the servers are ass. RGL is a community run league that has the interests of the community in mind while the companies just want $$
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cp_granary_pro
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the one that allows cow mangler

the one that allows cow mangler
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#10
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To me its far too early to decide, too many unknowns. In my ideal world IMO RGL and the Twiikuu project collaborate, because I trust the twiikuu team, and RGL can offer the prize pool. The twiikuu group I believe also has the best relationship with ETF2L and ozfortress which would mean we have the best chance at finally having a unified format across every league, even if it results in changing ETF2L/OZF current format. Not that that isnt still a possibility under RGL on whole, but I just think the likelihood increases.

With what we know so far though, RGL sounds like the winner.

To me its far too early to decide, too many unknowns. In my ideal world IMO RGL and the Twiikuu project collaborate, because I trust the twiikuu team, and RGL can offer the prize pool. The twiikuu group I believe also has the best relationship with ETF2L and ozfortress which would mean we have the best chance at finally having a unified format across every league, even if it results in changing ETF2L/OZF current format. Not that that isnt still a possibility under RGL on whole, but I just think the likelihood increases.

With what we know so far though, RGL sounds like the winner.
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#11
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Mitch_bleghfarecjetzzzzzunless ESL comes in with a LAN
how and why would ESL have a TF2 LAN
cause according to some unknown myth we have infinite money in our bank accounts.

You're a pathological liar who hyped up something that didn't exist, like you usually do with everything in esports and tf2. People here might be surprised but it's what people behind the scenes have come to expect from you.

As someone who has dealt with this kid for years. Do not trust a word mitch says.

[quote=Mitch_][quote=bleghfarec][quote=jetzzzzz]unless ESL comes in with a LAN[/quote]

how and why would ESL have a TF2 LAN[/quote]
cause according to some unknown myth we have infinite money in our bank accounts.[/quote]

You're a pathological liar who hyped up something that didn't exist, like you usually do with everything in esports and tf2. People here might be surprised but it's what people behind the scenes have come to expect from you.

As someone who has dealt with this kid for years. Do not trust a word mitch says.
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#12
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dashnerMitch_bleghfarecjetzzzzzunless ESL comes in with a LAN
how and why would ESL have a TF2 LAN
cause according to some unknown myth we have infinite money in our bank accounts.

You're a pathological liar who hyped up something that didn't exist, like you usually do with everything in esports and tf2. People here might be surprised but it's what people behind the scenes have come to expect from you.

As someone who has dealt with this kid for years. Do not trust a word mitch says.

Alex, what are you trying to do here? I really just don’t get it. You’ve been super uninvolved with me and the majority of the TF2 scene for ages and now you come back on a TFTV post and try to call me out on shit you don’t understand or have insight into.

Ever since I came into the TF2 scene and got involved with TFTV you’ve had this massive hate boner for me, more so than anyone else I’ve ever met. Since 2016 you’ve been trying to get me kicked out of anything to do with TFTV, even just recently in April when you tried publicly in the TFTV discord to get me banned, yet, once again you failed, because like I said, you’re the only one in the TF2 scene who has this deep hatred for me.

I just don’t get it. It’s been 3 years and you still chase me around trying to bat me with a floppy newspaper because you don’t like me. You even went as far to tweet @ me accusing me of blackmailing you, which was utterly ridiculous (maybe that’s why you deleted said tweet?). Just leave me alone dude, I understand I’ve done wrong in the past in production, but I’m trying to do better here, hence working with my contacts in ESL to promote TF2, yet you still try to drag me down.

It’s just getting sad at this point, end your solo hate crusade against me for god's sake cause this is child's play.

[quote=dashner][quote=Mitch_][quote=bleghfarec][quote=jetzzzzz]unless ESL comes in with a LAN[/quote]

how and why would ESL have a TF2 LAN[/quote]
cause according to some unknown myth we have infinite money in our bank accounts.[/quote]

You're a pathological liar who hyped up something that didn't exist, like you usually do with everything in esports and tf2. People here might be surprised but it's what people behind the scenes have come to expect from you.

As someone who has dealt with this kid for years. Do not trust a word mitch says.[/quote]
Alex, what are you trying to do here? I really just don’t get it. You’ve been super uninvolved with me and the majority of the TF2 scene for ages and now you come back on a TFTV post and try to call me out on shit you don’t understand or have insight into.

Ever since I came into the TF2 scene and got involved with TFTV you’ve had this massive hate boner for me, more so than anyone else I’ve ever met. Since 2016 you’ve been trying to get me kicked out of anything to do with TFTV, even just recently in April when you tried publicly in the TFTV discord to get me banned, yet, once again you failed, because like I said, you’re the only one in the TF2 scene who has this deep hatred for me.

I just don’t get it. It’s been 3 years and you still chase me around trying to bat me with a floppy newspaper because you don’t like me. You even went as far to tweet @ me accusing me of blackmailing you, which was utterly ridiculous (maybe that’s why you deleted said tweet?). Just leave me alone dude, I understand I’ve done wrong in the past in production, but I’m trying to do better here, hence working with my contacts in ESL to promote TF2, yet you still try to drag me down.

It’s just getting sad at this point, end your solo hate crusade against me for god's sake cause this is child's play.
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#13
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I knew these leagues would unite us

I knew these leagues would unite us
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#14
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can we please keep pete banned if we play rgl (or any other league)

can we please keep pete banned if we play rgl (or any other league)
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#15
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Ask anyone to do with Ozfortress and you'll get this isn't a solo crusade. There are plenty of people behind the scenes who are done with you Mitch.

Ask anyone to do with Ozfortress and you'll get this isn't a solo crusade. There are plenty of people behind the scenes who are done with you Mitch.
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tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport

tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
tf2 will never be an eSport
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dashnerAsk anyone to do with Ozfortress and you'll get this isn't a solo crusade. There are plenty of people behind the scenes who are done with you Mitch.

ozfortress is a different case and I'm more than happy to have a conversation in private with them when they wish. But please stop this shitfighting instead of talking behind each other's backs like fucking children.

It's so irrelevant to this thread as well.

[quote=dashner]Ask anyone to do with Ozfortress and you'll get this isn't a solo crusade. There are plenty of people behind the scenes who are done with you Mitch.[/quote]
ozfortress is a different case and I'm more than happy to have a conversation in private with them when they wish. But please stop this shitfighting instead of talking behind each other's backs like fucking children.

It's so irrelevant to this thread as well.
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#18
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good thing all the leagues are coming together to help the scene by making the transition period that could potentially splinter the playerbase be very bad for the future of na tf2 easier

https://i.imgur.com/GMXZ6KB.png

good thing all the leagues are coming together to help the scene by making the transition period that could potentially splinter the playerbase be very bad for the future of na tf2 easier [img]https://i.imgur.com/GMXZ6KB.png[/img]
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#19
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Mitch_dashnerAsk anyone to do with Ozfortress and you'll get this isn't a solo crusade. There are plenty of people behind the scenes who are done with you Mitch.ozfortress is a different case and I'm more than happy to have a conversation in private with them when they wish. But please stop this shitfighting instead of talking behind each other's backs like fucking children.

It's so irrelevant to this thread as well.

stop dude

[quote=Mitch_][quote=dashner]Ask anyone to do with Ozfortress and you'll get this isn't a solo crusade. There are plenty of people behind the scenes who are done with you Mitch.[/quote]
ozfortress is a different case and I'm more than happy to have a conversation in private with them when they wish. But please stop this shitfighting instead of talking behind each other's backs like fucking children.

It's so irrelevant to this thread as well.[/quote]


stop dude
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#20
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nazaragood thing all the leagues are coming together to help the scene by making the transition period that could potentially splinter the playerbase be very bad for the future of na tf2 easier https://i.imgur.com/GMXZ6KB.png

I know this shit's demoralizing to read but sometimes it's gotta come out, you know.
I promise you it's not representative of everything that's happening, and even though I'd consider myself very cynical, I'm hopeful as to what the near future will offer us.

[quote=nazara]good thing all the leagues are coming together to help the scene by making the transition period that could potentially splinter the playerbase be very bad for the future of na tf2 easier [img]https://i.imgur.com/GMXZ6KB.png[/img][/quote]
I know this shit's demoralizing to read but sometimes it's gotta come out, you know.
I promise you it's not representative of everything that's happening, and even though I'd consider myself very cynical, I'm hopeful as to what the near future will offer us.[url=#10]​[/url]
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Wait Why Don't You Guys Trust Mitch ? He Works For ESL . He's Getting Us A LAN .

Wait Why Don't You Guys Trust Mitch ? He Works For ESL . He's Getting Us A LAN .
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DO YOU GUYS NOT SEE HIS OFFICIAL ESL PLAY BADGE? broooooooooooooooo like hes gotta be 30 years old and the CEO of the comany ....

DO YOU GUYS NOT SEE HIS OFFICIAL ESL PLAY BADGE? broooooooooooooooo like hes gotta be 30 years old and the CEO of the comany ....
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hating on mitch because of the idea you have of him instead of his actions is an old meme. dudes doing a lot of good things

hating on mitch because of the idea you have of him instead of his actions is an old meme. dudes doing a lot of good things
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fingerinthebum_hating on mitch because of the idea you have of him instead of his actions is an old meme. dudes doing a lot of good things

what has he done again? i seem to have forgotten please jog my memory

[quote=fingerinthebum_]hating on mitch because of the idea you have of him instead of his actions is an old meme. dudes doing a lot of good things[/quote]
what has he done again? i seem to have forgotten please jog my memory
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#25
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kyaafingerinthebum_hating on mitch because of the idea you have of him instead of his actions is an old meme. dudes doing a lot of good thingswhat has he done again? i seem to have forgotten please jog my memory

misread what was said, also lol at non australians trying to figure out what mitch does when they’re not affected by most of what he does

[quote=kyaa][quote=fingerinthebum_]hating on mitch because of the idea you have of him instead of his actions is an old meme. dudes doing a lot of good things[/quote]
what has he done again? i seem to have forgotten please jog my memory[/quote]

misread what was said, also lol at non australians trying to figure out what mitch does when they’re not affected by most of what he does
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#26
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kyaafingerinthebum_hating on mitch because of the idea you have of him instead of his actions is an old meme. dudes doing a lot of good thingswhat has he done again? i seem to have forgotten please jog my memory

Brought a second casting org to Australia because TFLIVE didn't do all that much for the last few seasons

Organised an AU TF2 LAN, and is in the process of organising another, with plans to make one next year as well, while getting redbull and others as sponsors

Gotten ESL to actually take a look at TF2, bringing another org in that nobody else had managed to get

Given TF2 casters and producers a chance to further their career in other games

Exposed TF2 to other communities such as CS by casting 1000+ viewer games on the same twitch as the one he produces TF2 matches

Dedicated time to AsiaFortress who don't have their own casting org

Plus he does all this TF2 shit out of courtesy. He has no need to do anything with TF2 anymore, if he wanted to he could ditch and just do CS:GO shit all day, but he made his start here and wants to give back through getting ESL involved and organising LANs and producing matches that otherwise wouldn't get coverage. He's not making any money, he's literally wasting his time on trying to give back to this fucking disgustingly ungrateful scene.

Like fuck me the kid, at like <A YOUNG AGE> or some crazy shit started his own casting org and built it up to what it is today, ESL partnered, casting 7+ different games, getting Redbull and other huge companies interested in TF2, and yet people like you, dashnerr and others keep fucking shitting on the guy and holding him back because he made fuckups at the age of <BEING A YOUNG AGE>

[quote=kyaa][quote=fingerinthebum_]hating on mitch because of the idea you have of him instead of his actions is an old meme. dudes doing a lot of good things[/quote]
what has he done again? i seem to have forgotten please jog my memory[/quote]

Brought a second casting org to Australia because TFLIVE didn't do all that much for the last few seasons

Organised an AU TF2 LAN, and is in the process of organising another, with plans to make one next year as well, while getting redbull and others as sponsors

Gotten ESL to actually take a look at TF2, bringing another org in that nobody else had managed to get

Given TF2 casters and producers a chance to further their career in other games

Exposed TF2 to other communities such as CS by casting 1000+ viewer games on the same twitch as the one he produces TF2 matches

Dedicated time to AsiaFortress who don't have their own casting org

Plus he does all this TF2 shit out of courtesy. He has no need to do anything with TF2 anymore, if he wanted to he could ditch and just do CS:GO shit all day, but he made his start here and wants to give back through getting ESL involved and organising LANs and producing matches that otherwise wouldn't get coverage. He's not making any money, he's literally wasting his time on trying to give back to this fucking disgustingly ungrateful scene.

Like fuck me the kid, at like <A YOUNG AGE> or some crazy shit started his own casting org and built it up to what it is today, ESL partnered, casting 7+ different games, getting Redbull and other huge companies interested in TF2, and yet people like you, dashnerr and others keep fucking shitting on the guy and holding him back because he made fuckups at the age of <BEING A YOUNG AGE>
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#27
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ETF2L :)

ETF2L :)
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#28
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I personaly really wish that players realize they could give a chance to ESL, it is a really sad thing that people just try one time, then complain and never try again. That what happened to ESL cup #1, but also Razer cup and so on...

Mitch, be sure you have support from people who wants to grow too, you do have my support and can ask me anything if that helps you.

Olgha, from EU scene, who tried to be admin on ETF2L thrice despite hating its point of view about the game.

I personaly really wish that players realize they could give a chance to ESL, it is a really sad thing that people just try one time, then complain and never try again. That what happened to ESL cup #1, but also Razer cup and so on...

Mitch, be sure you have support from people who wants to grow too, you do have my support and can ask me anything if that helps you.

Olgha, from EU scene, who tried to be admin on ETF2L thrice despite hating its point of view about the game.
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#29
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nazaragood thing all the leagues are coming together to help the scene by making the transition period that could potentially splinter the playerbase be very bad for the future of na tf2 easier https://i.imgur.com/GMXZ6KB.png

ikr, was worth it to have a 3 hour meeting with all the leagues

[quote=nazara]good thing all the leagues are coming together to help the scene by making the transition period that could potentially splinter the playerbase be very bad for the future of na tf2 easier [img]https://i.imgur.com/GMXZ6KB.png[/img][/quote]
ikr, was worth it to have a 3 hour meeting with all the leagues
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#30
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I'm a bit confused, can someone explain

dashner You're a pathological liar who hyped up something that didn't existdashnerlike you usually do with everything in esports and tf2.dashnerPeople here might be surprised but it's what people behind the scenes have come to expect from you.
I'm a bit confused, can someone explain

[quote=dashner] You're a pathological liar who [b]hyped up something[/b] that [b]didn't exist[/b][/quote]
[quote=dashner]like you [b]usually do[/b] with everything in [b]esports and tf2[/b].[/quote]
[quote=dashner]People here might be surprised but it's what [b]people behind the scenes[/b] have come to [b]expect from you[/b].[/quote]
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