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Harassment in this community: It needs to stop.
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#31
-35 Frags +
crib_Visyou should not be so sensitive - this is the internet, you cannot expect it to be totally friendly at any given time.Its much harder to ignore constant targeted harassment than a random person on the internet saying a slur. She did block him and call him out, and he kept on doing it for over a year.

From reading both sides of the argument, the harassment seems to not have even been constant. Even if it was, a fairly content person would not get affected by the opinion of others over the internet. I'm by no means defending whatever Scratchh or his friends did, but her life will be unnecessarily harder is she to get affected simply by strangers in a videogame. Barely dealing with this, how would she cope with the situation if it happened in real life? That's why she needs to learn not to be so sensitive, nobody will caress her with a feather

[quote=crib_]
[quote=Vis]you should not be so sensitive - this is the internet, you cannot expect it to be totally friendly at any given time.[/quote]
Its much harder to ignore constant targeted harassment than a random person on the internet saying a slur. She did block him and call him out, and he kept on doing it for over a year.
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From reading both sides of the argument, the harassment seems to not have even been constant. Even if it was, a fairly content person would not get affected by the opinion of others over the internet. I'm by no means defending whatever Scratchh or his friends did, but her life will be unnecessarily harder is she to get affected simply by strangers in a videogame. Barely dealing with this, how would she cope with the situation if it happened in real life? That's why she needs to learn not to be so sensitive, nobody will caress her with a feather
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#32
48 Frags +

"Hey person of a minority group that is constantly under fire in their everyday lives, stop being so sensitive!"

"Hey person of a minority group that is constantly under fire in their everyday lives, stop being so sensitive!"
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#33
-42 Frags +
PJC"Hey person of a minority group that is constantly under fire in their everyday lives, stop being so sensitive!"

How is being stream sniped by getting focused on casual "constantly under fire in their everyday lives". How is a videogame your everyday life, PJC?

[quote=PJC]"Hey person of a minority group that is constantly under fire in their everyday lives, stop being so sensitive!"[/quote]
How is being stream sniped by getting focused on casual "constantly under fire in their everyday lives". How is a videogame your everyday life, PJC?
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#34
41 Frags +

Trans people are constantly under fire in their everyday lives, so yeah I don't think it's reasonable to tell them to "just stop being so sensitive".

Trans people are constantly under fire in their everyday lives, so yeah I don't think it's reasonable to tell them to "just stop being so sensitive".
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#35
26 Frags +
VisPJC"Hey person of a minority group that is constantly under fire in their everyday lives, stop being so sensitive!"How is being stream sniped by getting focused on casual "constantly under fire in their everyday lives". How is a videogame your everyday life, PJC?

cause the motivation behind it is because shes trans. nothing wrong with stream sniping and taunting but the reason why is because of her identity

[quote=Vis][quote=PJC]"Hey person of a minority group that is constantly under fire in their everyday lives, stop being so sensitive!"[/quote]
How is being stream sniped by getting focused on casual "constantly under fire in their everyday lives". How is a videogame your everyday life, PJC?[/quote]

cause the motivation behind it is because shes trans. nothing wrong with stream sniping and taunting but the reason why is because of her identity
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#36
-24 Frags +
PJCTrans people are constantly under fire in their everyday lives, so yeah I don't think it's reasonable to tell them to "just stop being so sensitive".

Where did you even read me telling all the trans people to stop being so sensitive? I told this particular person so, because the reasons over which they got upset are really nothing compared to what other people are subject to, this is the lightest form of harassment she has endured and it already hit her very badly. You said it yourself, they are under fire in their everyday lives, taking everything so personally is literally a death sentence.

funhaver1998cause the motivation behind it is because shes trans. nothing wrong with stream sniping and taunting but the reason why is because of her identity

Where did I ask what the motivation was or did I defend stream sniping or did I ask why she got harassed? I just don't understand what you are trying to counter-argue here

[quote=PJC]Trans people are constantly under fire in their everyday lives, so yeah I don't think it's reasonable to tell them to "just stop being so sensitive".[/quote]
Where did you even read me telling all the trans people to stop being so sensitive? I told this particular person so, because the reasons over which they got upset are really nothing compared to what other people are subject to, this is the lightest form of harassment she has endured and it already hit her very badly. You said it yourself, they are under fire in their everyday lives, taking everything so personally is literally a death sentence.

[quote=funhaver1998]cause the motivation behind it is because shes trans. nothing wrong with stream sniping and taunting but the reason why is because of her identity[/quote]
Where did I ask what the motivation was or did I defend stream sniping or did I ask why she got harassed? I just don't understand what you are trying to counter-argue here
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#37
46 Frags +

God v!s you are actually so fucking dumb and it’s mind boggling how you lack the basic empathy it takes to understand anyone in this situation. One simple thing you can’t seem to get pass through your thick skull is that you’re not allowed to dictate how someone feels. If something bothers someone you don’t tell them “well it shouldn’t.” That is something even a kindergartener can understand. People like you are why people keep getting away like this in our community. You’d rather everyone keep quiet and hope a force with power will MAGICALLY find out what is going on. Some of these people don’t even get the same right as you do to just browse the internet and have fun. Not only is there this OP but multiple members of the community who have to deal with this shit EVERY DAY. Telling them to stay silent and just “ignore it” is ignorant and anyone who thinks that was truly the only way to prevent any of this are probably the type who also stay in silence and just let it go.

Also another thing a kindergartner would understand is when MULTIPLE people are telling you that you’re wrong and you feel the need to defend yourself down to the most minor of points - you’re probably fucking wrong. Of course as we all know, your ego is too big and too precious to even come close to admit you’re “even remotely wrong” about a situation like this.

God v!s you are actually so fucking dumb and it’s mind boggling how you lack the basic empathy it takes to understand anyone in this situation. One simple thing you can’t seem to get pass through your thick skull is that you’re not allowed to dictate how someone feels. If something bothers someone you don’t tell them “well it shouldn’t.” That is something even a kindergartener can understand. People like you are why people keep getting away like this in our community. You’d rather everyone keep quiet and hope a force with power will MAGICALLY find out what is going on. Some of these people don’t even get the same right as you do to just browse the internet and have fun. Not only is there this OP but multiple members of the community who have to deal with this shit EVERY DAY. Telling them to stay silent and just “ignore it” is ignorant and anyone who thinks that was truly the only way to prevent any of this are probably the type who also stay in silence and just let it go.

Also another thing a kindergartner would understand is when MULTIPLE people are telling you that you’re wrong and you feel the need to defend yourself down to the most minor of points - you’re probably fucking wrong. Of course as we all know, your ego is too big and too precious to even come close to admit you’re “even remotely wrong” about a situation like this.
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#38
9 Frags +
kyaauh i get more harassment than this when i join mge servers every day by scratch and his retrards, but you dont see me making a thread about it, theyre actual children who just wanna see you get mad. if you are falling for their bait then thats more ur fault than theirs

trannys think they're gods or something that cant be made fun of, yall need to grow thicker skin

lmfao how is your take on "there's too much harassment in this community" to just be like "yeah this happens everytime I play mge"
like clearly this type of behaviour isn't fucking normal in well adjusted individuals

[quote=kyaa]uh i get more harassment than this when i join mge servers every day by scratch and his retrards, but you dont see me making a thread about it, theyre actual children who just wanna see you get mad. if you are falling for their bait then thats more ur fault than theirs

trannys think they're gods or something that cant be made fun of, yall need to grow thicker skin[/quote]
lmfao how is your take on "there's too much harassment in this community" to just be like "yeah this happens everytime I play mge"
like clearly this type of behaviour isn't fucking normal in well adjusted individuals
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#39
22 Frags +
ScratchhI said this, I didn’t defend myself. I openly admitted that what I did was wrong and I apologized like 4 times in the post. My post was entirely based on me clearing up misconceptions and false information.

I don't think this was the intention but when I read it, it comes off a bit as "I apologize for it, but it didn't happen, or it wasn't a big deal, or it wasn't me, or it was your fault it happened." A lot of it can easily be taken as a defense, so I can't blame anyone for taking it as you defending yourself.

e: in retrospect this was giving way too much benefit of the doubt, now that the thread's been locked and scratch doubled down hard, I'd like to make it clear that his "apology" shouldn't fly

VisWhere did you even read me telling all the trans people to stop being so sensitive? I told this particular person so, because the reasons over which they got upset are really nothing compared to what other people are subject to, this is the lightest form of harassment she has endured and it already hit her very badly. You said it yourself, they are under fire in their everyday lives, taking everything so personally is literally a death sentence.

Why is this met with "ok harassment sucks but the real problem here is how much she dislikes being harassed, I think she should be harassed more before she gets upset" and not "why the fuck is there harassment in our small community?"

However much harassment you think someone should be able to take is completely moot because we should strive to not have harassment in the first place.

[quote=Scratchh]I said this, I didn’t defend myself. I openly admitted that what I did was wrong and I apologized like 4 times in the post. My post was entirely based on me clearing up misconceptions and false information.[/quote]
I don't think this was the intention but when I read it, it comes off a bit as "I apologize for it, but it didn't happen, or it wasn't a big deal, or it wasn't me, or it was your fault it happened." A lot of it can easily be taken as a defense, so I can't blame anyone for taking it as you defending yourself.

e: in retrospect this was giving way too much benefit of the doubt, now that the thread's been locked and scratch doubled down hard, I'd like to make it clear that his "apology" shouldn't fly

[quote=Vis]Where did you even read me telling all the trans people to stop being so sensitive? I told this particular person so, because the reasons over which they got upset are really nothing compared to what other people are subject to, this is the lightest form of harassment she has endured and it already hit her very badly. You said it yourself, they are under fire in their everyday lives, taking everything so personally is literally a death sentence.[/quote]
Why is this met with "ok harassment sucks but the real problem here is how much she dislikes being harassed, I think she should be harassed more before she gets upset" and not "why the fuck is there harassment in our small community?"

However much harassment you think someone should be able to take is completely moot because we should strive to not have harassment in the first place.
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#40
29 Frags +
VisWhere did you even read me telling all the trans people to stop being so sensitive? I told this particular person so, because the reasons over which they got upset are really nothing compared to what other people are subject to, this is the lightest form of harassment she has endured and it already hit her very badly. You said it yourself, they are under fire in their everyday lives, taking everything so personally is literally a death sentence.

Dude, you told a trans person who is being harassed for being trans to stop being so sensitive. I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand why that's a really stupid thing to say.

[quote=Vis]
Where did you even read me telling all the trans people to stop being so sensitive? I told this particular person so, because the reasons over which they got upset are really nothing compared to what other people are subject to, this is the lightest form of harassment she has endured and it already hit her very badly. You said it yourself, they are under fire in their everyday lives, taking everything so personally is literally a death sentence.[/quote]

Dude, you told a trans person who is being harassed for being trans to stop being so sensitive. I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand why that's a really stupid thing to say.
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#41
20 Frags +

wlecome to page 5

wlecome to page 5
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#42
36 Frags +

Ban Vis

Ban Vis
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#43
3 Frags +

that wasn't a counter argument i was just explaining what was so wrong with the stream sniping or taunting its because of the motivation thats it -_-

that wasn't a counter argument i was just explaining what was so wrong with the stream sniping or taunting its because of the motivation thats it -_-
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#44
-47 Frags +
NursayGod v!s you are actually so fucking dumb and it’s mind boggling how you lack the basic empathy it takes to understand anyone in this situation. One simple thing you can’t seem to get pass through your thick skull is that you’re not allowed to dictate how someone feels. If something bothers someone you don’t tell them “well it shouldn’t.” That is something even a kindergartener can understand. People like you are why people keep getting away like this in our community.

Your reading skills are actually COMPLETELY lacking, holy fucking shit. The empathy that I might express will not help her as much as a SOLID piece of advice that she should try to adopt. Where did you even READ that I said she MUST feel one way or another? When I tell her that she SHOULD be less sensitive, this means that she SHOULD set it as a milestone to achieve in the future. If something bothers someone and it shouldn't bother them, you DO tell them "it shouldn't bother you", because it literally shouldn't.

NursayYou’d rather everyone keep quiet and hope a force with power will MAGICALLY find out what is going on. Some of these people don’t even get the same right as you do to just browse the internet and have fun. Not only is there this OP but multiple members of the community who have to deal with this shit EVERY DAY. Telling them to stay silent and just “ignore it” is ignorant and anyone who thinks that was truly the only way to prevent any of this are probably the type who also stay in silence and just let it go. VisI'm not saying you should not call out such behaviour... Collect all the evidence you need and drop it off here, trigger a chain reaction from different leagues to speak up about this...

I swear to god you have brain damage of some kind, like I call you out for not being able to read and you keep arguing without understanding anything you read. Dr. V!s advises you to look through your empty bookshelves and take an important notice.

NursayAlso another thing a kindergartner would understand is when MULTIPLE people are telling you that you’re wrong and you feel the need to defend yourself down to the most minor of points - you’re probably fucking wrong. Of course as we all know, your ego is too big and too precious to even come close to admit you’re “even remotely wrong” about a situation like this.

Your thinking capacity is indeed restricted to such of a kindergartener when you fail to realise that none of the points stated from other people manage to present any solid arguments against my point, but instead either say something true but off-topic, or they simply don't even understand what I've said - much like yourself. I don't fucking care if you are part of LGBT+ Nursey, when your personality is absolutely trash as you have already proven multiple times, I will not show any kind of respect towards you.

[quote=Nursay]God v!s you are actually so fucking dumb and it’s mind boggling how you lack the basic empathy it takes to understand anyone in this situation. One simple thing you can’t seem to get pass through your thick skull is that you’re not allowed to dictate how someone feels. If something bothers someone you don’t tell them “well it shouldn’t.” That is something even a kindergartener can understand. People like you are why people keep getting away like this in our community.[/quote]
Your reading skills are actually [b]COMPLETELY[/b] lacking, holy fucking shit. The empathy that I might express will not help her as much as a SOLID piece of advice that she should try to adopt. Where did you even READ that I said she MUST feel one way or another? When I tell her that she SHOULD be less sensitive, this means that she SHOULD set it as a milestone to achieve in the future. If something bothers someone and it shouldn't bother them, you DO tell them "it shouldn't bother you", because it literally shouldn't.

[quote=Nursay]You’d rather everyone keep quiet and hope a force with power will MAGICALLY find out what is going on. Some of these people don’t even get the same right as you do to just browse the internet and have fun. Not only is there this OP but multiple members of the community who have to deal with this shit EVERY DAY. Telling them to stay silent and just “ignore it” is ignorant and anyone who thinks that was truly the only way to prevent any of this are probably the type who also stay in silence and just let it go. [/quote]

[quote=Vis]I'm not saying you should not call out such behaviour... Collect all the evidence you need and drop it off here, trigger a chain reaction from different leagues to speak up about this...[/quote]

I swear to god you have brain damage of some kind, like I call you out for not being able to read and you keep arguing without understanding anything you read. Dr. V!s advises you to look through your empty bookshelves and take an important notice.

[quote=Nursay]
Also another thing a kindergartner would understand is when MULTIPLE people are telling you that you’re wrong and you feel the need to defend yourself down to the most minor of points - you’re probably fucking wrong. Of course as we all know, your ego is too big and too precious to even come close to admit you’re “even remotely wrong” about a situation like this.[/quote]
Your thinking capacity is indeed restricted to such of a kindergartener when you fail to realise that none of the points stated from other people manage to present any solid arguments against my point, but instead either say something true but off-topic, or they simply don't even understand what I've said - much like yourself. I don't fucking care if you are part of LGBT+ Nursey, when your personality is absolutely trash as you have already proven multiple times, I will not show any kind of respect towards you.
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#45
-29 Frags +
PJCDude, you told a trans person who is being harassed for being trans to stop being so sensitive. I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand why that's a really stupid thing to say.

What I did was tell her that the slurs and offenses she receives over a videogame should be ignored by her, and that she SHOULD NOT be so sensitive. I did not say "Stop being so sensitive". English is your first language I'm genuinely amazed that you do not see the difference.

I don't know what kind of worlds you live in, but here nobody is going to take special care of your feelings later in life. Obviously changing how much you get affected by something is not done overnight - it takes times, and that is what the person in particular should aim for. Because one day it might happen to her in real life, and if she barely manages to cope with it in a videogame, the effects from bumping into it first hand would be devastating.

[quote=PJC]Dude, you told a trans person who is being harassed for being trans to stop being so sensitive. I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand why that's a really stupid thing to say.[/quote]
What I did was tell her that the slurs and offenses she receives over a videogame should be ignored by her, and that she SHOULD NOT be so sensitive. I did not say "Stop being so sensitive". English is your first language I'm genuinely amazed that you do not see the difference.

I don't know what kind of worlds you live in, but here nobody is going to take special care of your feelings later in life. Obviously changing how much you get affected by something is not done overnight - it takes times, and that is what the person in particular should aim for. Because one day it might happen to her in real life, and if she barely manages to cope with it in a videogame, the effects from bumping into it first hand would be devastating.
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#46
29 Frags +

V!s brotha,

On some real shit can you not see how u have somehow diverted the entire attention to yourself when some serious shits going on? At this point can u just not leave it be like this is Stephanie's problem and not urs so really your opinion does not even mean anything? We don't need ya walls.

Cheers, Funhaver

V!s brotha,

On some real shit can you not see how u have somehow diverted the entire attention to yourself when some serious shits going on? At this point can u just not leave it be like this is Stephanie's problem and not urs so really your opinion does not even mean anything? We don't need ya walls.

Cheers, Funhaver
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#47
-18 Frags +

In an ideal world both of them would be dumped into a small room, forcefed a bunch of mdma while ambient works 85-92 is playing, and let out after they hatefucked each other to exhaustion and made up.

In an ideal world both of them would be dumped into a small room, forcefed a bunch of mdma while ambient works 85-92 is playing, and let out after they hatefucked each other to exhaustion and made up.
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#48
33 Frags +

You can't really tell someone who is being harassed what they should or shouldn't be feeling when you're not them and you can't relate to their circumstances, you're victim blaming.

You can't really tell someone who is being harassed what they should or shouldn't be feeling when you're not them and you can't relate to their circumstances, you're victim blaming.
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#49
6 Frags +

sadly, these people will keep doing this stuff and it won’t change their attitudes at all.

sadly, these people will keep doing this stuff and it won’t change their attitudes at all.
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#50
16 Frags +

Why does it seem to be that goddamn hard to simply be nice to each other in a videogame?

Why does it seem to be that goddamn hard to simply be nice to each other in a videogame?
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#51
32 Frags +

welcome to comp tf2, the community where it's all just a competition to see who can be the funniest person saying/doing the most fucked up things and have everyone jerk off each other in mumble/discord/etc over what that said person just did, it's been like that as long as i remember

your best bet would be to find a group of people that don't do these sort of things and stick with them without caring about the rest, sadly there's really nothing that can be done to prevent these people from keeping on doing what they just did to you since as you saw above there'll be people willing to justify their actions or blame it on you for being "weak" instead of realizing how fucked up it is to harass someone over the internet just because of something as insignificant as gender/race/nationality/etc

welcome to comp tf2, the community where it's all just a competition to see who can be the funniest person saying/doing the most fucked up things and have everyone jerk off each other in mumble/discord/etc over what that said person just did, it's been like that as long as i remember

your best bet would be to find a group of people that don't do these sort of things and stick with them without caring about the rest, sadly there's really nothing that can be done to prevent these people from keeping on doing what they just did to you since as you saw above there'll be people willing to justify their actions or blame it on you for being "weak" instead of realizing how fucked up it is to harass someone over the internet just because of something as insignificant as gender/race/nationality/etc
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#52
45 Frags +

vis u seem bothered by Nursey calling you dumb
u should be less sensitive :) don't let it bother you

vis u seem bothered by Nursey calling you dumb
u should be less sensitive :) don't let it bother you
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#53
20 Frags +
ninjax

https://i.imgur.com/wphn2O9.jpg

sorry for not taking you seriously

[quote=ninjax][/quote]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/wphn2O9.jpg[/img]
sorry for not taking you seriously
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#54
8 Frags +

U can disrespect Ninjax on the forums but u can't do that in the MGE server

Sorry Stephanie for the derailment of ur thread but I'm not gonna allow Vladimir here to make fun of Ninjax, 200 ping legend.

U can disrespect Ninjax on the forums but u can't do that in the MGE server

Sorry Stephanie for the derailment of ur thread but I'm not gonna allow Vladimir here to make fun of Ninjax, 200 ping legend.
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#55
18 Frags +

Vis, you are engaging in victim blaming. Although I can partially empathize with your logic and see where you're coming from, I don't agree with it.

The problem is the people who are being disrespectful to another human being in the first place, not the people who respond to it by being upset.

The best solution to this problem is to treat it at the source, not to deny people their feelings or experiences.

Vis, you are engaging in victim blaming. Although I can partially empathize with your logic and see where you're coming from, I don't agree with it.

The problem is the people who are being disrespectful to another human being in the first place, not the people who respond to it by being upset.

The best solution to this problem is to treat it at the source, not to deny people their feelings or experiences.
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#56
-29 Frags +

"Harassment in this community"
What's the community got to do with the individual actions of a couple edgelords?

>Getting mad about taunts
rly m8

>Engaging people you dislike instead of blocking them
It's like you want to fight and if the guy's post in first page is true then it seems like it

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/273/406/076.png

The only thing worth reading here is the potential harassment and potential death threats, both of which should be reported (and I doubt that's even the case). I really don't see this being much more than a couple of dicks memeing. I don't see why this has to come to the attention of the whole community. What's your aim here? Is there some infective toxic virus in the community that has be addressed and dealt with or are you just using us as leverage for some dumb squabble? I doubt the former and believe the latter.

Christ, I'm not even telling you to grow a thicker skin and neither am I saying that such things aren't hurtful, but there's more mature ways to handle this than farming online virtue signalling points. You don't need us to deal with it on your behalf, do it yourself and move on.

"Harassment in this community"
What's the community got to do with the individual actions of a couple edgelords?

>Getting mad about taunts
rly m8

>Engaging people you dislike instead of blocking them
It's like you want to fight and if the guy's post in first page is true then it seems like it

[img]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/273/406/076.png[/img]

The only thing worth reading here is the [i]potential[/i] harassment and [i]potential[/i] death threats, both of which should be reported (and I doubt that's even the case). I really don't see this being much more than a couple of dicks memeing. I don't see why this has to come to the attention of the whole community. What's your aim here? Is there some infective toxic virus in the community that has be addressed and dealt with or are you just using us as leverage for some dumb squabble? I doubt the former and believe the latter.

Christ, I'm not even telling you to grow a thicker skin and neither am I saying that such things aren't hurtful, but there's more mature ways to handle this than farming online virtue signalling points. You don't need us to deal with it on your behalf, do it yourself and move on.
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#57
25 Frags +

Lmfao that apology. "you've harassed me for years" well akschually it's only been like 1 year (tops). Man says he's sorry for what he's done but hasn't thought about quitting this bs for, let me think, oh yeah, for a year. Like idk if this is legit accidentally the most poorly worded apology of all time OR if this is just trying to save face now that after a year(s?) he's been called out for it publicly. I do wonder.

Lmfao that apology. "you've harassed me for years" well akschually it's only been like 1 year (tops). Man says he's sorry for what he's done but hasn't thought about quitting this bs for, let me think, oh yeah, for a year. Like idk if this is legit accidentally the most poorly worded apology of all time OR if this is just trying to save face now that after a year(s?) he's been called out for it publicly. I do wonder.
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#58
21 Frags +

y'all acting like this specific case is separate from every other case of harassment we've been through before. sure, it might not be the same people involved and for different reason. harassment isn't restricted to only trans people. or when the tagg drama (and every other black racism drama) happened, it's not only restricted to black people. or it's not just jews, when the ban pred & degu thread came up. i might not have been there for most of them and that thought scares me.
there are a lot of forms of harassment, there are a lot of possible demographics that can be harassed for many different reasons. and none of them are acceptable. it's crazy that there are some people who would unironically (even ironically is bad) defend harassment.
you can't judge the victim unless you've been in their situation. being under constant fire means you get better at recognizing different forms of harassment and recognizing specific people who take great pleasure in doing it. these people get more and more creative with each passing day, until you reach the point where their simple presence is putting a great mental strain on the victim. it doesn't have to be black and white insults for it to be unacceptable. there's no "acceptable degree of harassment".

y'all acting like this specific case is separate from every other case of harassment we've been through before. sure, it might not be the same people involved and for different reason. harassment isn't restricted to only trans people. or when the tagg drama (and every other black racism drama) happened, it's not only restricted to black people. or it's not just jews, when the ban pred & degu thread came up. i might not have been there for most of them and that thought scares me.
there are a lot of forms of harassment, there are a lot of possible demographics that can be harassed for many different reasons. and none of them are acceptable. it's crazy that there are some people who would unironically (even ironically is bad) defend harassment.
you can't judge the victim unless you've been in their situation. being under constant fire means you get better at recognizing different forms of harassment and recognizing specific people who take great pleasure in doing it. these people get more and more creative with each passing day, until you reach the point where their simple presence is putting a great mental strain on the victim. [u]it doesn't have to be black and white insults for it to be unacceptable[/u]. there's no "acceptable degree of harassment".
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#59
-19 Frags +

i was just snooping as usual on tftv, and this thread really blew up. honestly surprising to see how many people posted

i was just snooping as usual on tftv, and this thread really blew up. honestly surprising to see how many people posted
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#60
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Its very easy to say "lol its the internet its not real lmaoooo" when you're not part of a minority group that some people literally would enjoy nothing more than to beat you senseless and kill you irl (and I can think of a few instances in just the past few weeks of targeted violence against trans youth just in the UK), then to only go onto the internet and see that exact same rhetoric again.
Tell the 41% of trans people that will attempt suicide within their lifetime that words can't hurt you and they're not real. When your entire identity is constantly under attack wherever you go, it is real. It's obviously impossible to police the entire fucking internet, but there's like 10 people in this community. You can actually do something.

edit: On a personal level, since this community is so comparatively microcosmic and insular to other games, an individual who contributes to targeted harassment implicitly or explicitly has quantifiable impact if they become more empathetic to the struggles of other people

Its very easy to say "lol its the internet its not real lmaoooo" when you're not part of a minority group that some people literally would enjoy nothing more than to beat you senseless and kill you irl (and I can think of a few instances in just the past few weeks of targeted violence against trans youth just in the UK), then to only go onto the internet and see that exact same rhetoric again.
Tell the 41% of trans people that will attempt suicide within their lifetime that words can't hurt you and they're not real. When your entire identity is constantly under attack wherever you go, it is real. It's obviously impossible to police the entire fucking internet, but there's like 10 people in this community. You can actually do something.

edit: On a personal level, since this community is so comparatively microcosmic and insular to other games, an individual who contributes to targeted harassment implicitly or explicitly has quantifiable impact if they become more empathetic to the struggles of other people
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