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Harassment in this community: It needs to stop.
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***WARNING::: NERD ESSAY INCOMING***

First, some context to why I'm posting this thread:

As most of you probably don't know and also probably don't care about, I recently took a break from tf2. I probably won't be playing competitive in any format for a while, but I still like to browse tftv to keep up to date on the latest shit that's happening. Anyway, after a few months of not playing, I came back. After playing a couple pubs, getting my configs together (disabling in game voice) and hud reinstalled (and also modifying the chat box element to make it invisible, so I can't see chat), etc., I decided to start up a stream. Typically I have faily small streams, maybe 5 viewers max. This stream was... a different story. During this stream I peaked at somewhere around 15 viewers. Normally this would be great, except that shit like this happened:

https://i.imgur.com/PV81bGw.png

I try to avoid interacting with stuff like that (other than immediately banning them) because I know "its what the bullies want" yadda yadda whatever. For a while after that, things were fine. Then I noticed a certain already banned person was also lurking in my chat. Not long after, I started getting streamsniped. By the same person who was lurking in my chat.

"Cool," I said (it wasn't very cool). I went offline on steam, and requeued. Then it happened again. And again. Over and over, this same player, streamsniping me, taunting, being a jackass. Changing his name, putting [KAT] and other dumb shit in it, to try to piss me off. [KAT], btw, is the name of a hate group in the tf2 community (led by mireal, if I'm remembering correctly?) that "dislikes" trans people, as you can probably guess from their name, "Kill All Trannies". I eventually turned off tf2, and started playing a hat in time, which is a single player game that people can (obviously) not harass you in. My viewer count plummeted, and I turned off the stream after a bit to go hang out with my girlfriend at work instead.

This seems like a pretty stupid and obnoxious thing to do to someone, right, but its not like, the *worst* thing in the world.

Some time later, I opened up Twitter. I'm fairly active on Twitter, and I check my notifications regularly. I see a notification from <@PlayerWhoWasStreamsnipingMeEarlier_1>. Keep in mind, I already had this guy's main account on Twitter blocked, at least if my memory serves me correctly. I opened it. He's liking some of my retweets. Normal behavior, if you aren't an insane person who harasses minorities for fun. Coming from him, it's obvious that he's just stalking my profile. Anyway, I tweet this:

https://i.imgur.com/YBq3NjR.png

and call him out on it.

A bit later, this:

https://i.imgur.com/uYR7p63.png

pops up in my notifications. Cool, random dude #2 who's probably his bud, you think my genitals are funny! Thanks for that. Anyway, I blocked him. Guy #1 (the streamsniping person) then responded (to me) with hate speech. I didn't screenshot it before his account got banned, unfortunately, but it was just gross and vile and slur-ridden and etc. Anyway, this was somewhat upsetting to me, so I reported his tweets and blocked him and logged off for a while.

Fast forward a bit, to today. I get on tf2, to play some pubs with my girlfriend. I played for a bit, nothing much happens. Eventually, though, I run into him in a pub. This time, my name and profile picture are different. He should have no way (other than maybe my hat?) of knowing that it's me. I immediately get hard focused.

Cool.

Love that.

I logged off.

And then I wrote this post, because I'm tired of it. The pub from earlier tonight wasn't really that big of a deal, but it's the straw that broke the camels back for me. I'm done with this guy (and more broadly, this sort of shit) and I'm going to fucking call him and it out.

TLDR:
It's scratchh, and members of KAT.
This scratchh.

This guy has been a total and complete jackass to me since the second I met him. Even ignoring everything I posted above, he's also probably an actual sociopath. The first time I met him, he pretended to be trans, and asked me personal questions that I wouldn't normally answer if I wasn't talking to a trans person. When one of my friends told me that he was laughing at me with his friends in a private discord, I was angry and upset, and I immediately blocked him on all the platforms I could. He's been a complete nuisance ever since, including this bullshit.

I'm so fucking tired of him, and more broadly, the gross incels in this community who hate trans people.

Please don't fucking touch this dude or anyone he associates with with a 20 mile long pole. He's a minority hating incel. So are plenty of his friends. There are better players, there are better people. There are better people who are also better players. Etc.

Evidence that all the shit I've said is true is down below.

Proof of him being banned on Twitter:

https://i.imgur.com/pSkzSZz.png

His suspended account

The tweet I sent

Twitch VOD

Relevant screenshot if you don't feel like watching the vod:

https://i.imgur.com/KPM1Tpy.png

Him being banned from my discord AN ENTIRE YEAR AGO:

https://i.imgur.com/zKIwN1b.png

Also relevant

This isn't the first time him and other people from KAT have been vile and gross to me, and I'm sure others.

Anyway, if you got this far, thanks for reading, I guess. I probably could've made this shorter and/or put it in a response to his LFT, but I feel like this deserved its own post, as it's been happening for literal years now, and it's not just limited to him.

[b]***WARNING::: NERD ESSAY INCOMING***[/b]

First, some context to why I'm posting this thread:


As most of you probably don't know and also probably don't care about, I recently took a break from tf2. I probably won't be playing competitive in any format for a while, but I still like to browse tftv to keep up to date on the latest shit that's happening. Anyway, after a few months of not playing, I came back. After playing a couple pubs, getting my configs together (disabling in game voice) and hud reinstalled (and also modifying the chat box element to make it invisible, so I can't see chat), etc., I decided to start up a stream. Typically I have faily small streams, maybe 5 viewers max. This stream was... a different story. During this stream I peaked at somewhere around 15 viewers. Normally this would be great, except that shit like this happened:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/PV81bGw.png[/img]

I try to avoid interacting with stuff like that (other than immediately banning them) because I know "its what the bullies want" yadda yadda whatever. For a while after that, things were fine. Then I noticed a certain already banned person was also lurking in my chat. Not long after, I started getting streamsniped. By the same person who was lurking in my chat.

"Cool," I said (it wasn't very cool). I went offline on steam, and requeued. Then it happened again. And again. Over and over, this same player, streamsniping me, taunting, being a jackass. Changing his name, putting [KAT] and other dumb shit in it, to try to piss me off. [KAT], btw, is the name of a hate group in the tf2 community (led by mireal, if I'm remembering correctly?) that "dislikes" trans people, as you can probably guess from their name, "Kill All Trannies". I eventually turned off tf2, and started playing a hat in time, which is a single player game that people can (obviously) not harass you in. My viewer count plummeted, and I turned off the stream after a bit to go hang out with my girlfriend at work instead.

This seems like a pretty stupid and obnoxious thing to do to someone, right, but its not like, the *worst* thing in the world.

Some time later, I opened up Twitter. I'm fairly active on Twitter, and I check my notifications regularly. I see a notification from <@PlayerWhoWasStreamsnipingMeEarlier_1>. Keep in mind, I already had this guy's main account on Twitter blocked, at least if my memory serves me correctly. I opened it. He's liking some of my retweets. Normal behavior, if you aren't an insane person who harasses minorities for fun. Coming from him, it's obvious that he's just stalking my profile. Anyway, I tweet this:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/YBq3NjR.png[/img]

and call him out on it.

A bit later, this:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/uYR7p63.png[/img]

pops up in my notifications. Cool, random dude #2 who's probably his bud, you think my genitals are funny! Thanks for that. Anyway, I blocked him. Guy #1 (the streamsniping person) then responded (to me) with hate speech. I didn't screenshot it before his account got banned, unfortunately, but it was just gross and vile and slur-ridden and etc. Anyway, this was somewhat upsetting to me, so I reported his tweets and blocked him and logged off for a while.

Fast forward a bit, to today. I get on tf2, to play some pubs with my girlfriend. I played for a bit, nothing much happens. Eventually, though, I run into him in a pub. This time, my name and profile picture are different. He should have no way (other than maybe my hat?) of knowing that it's me. I immediately get hard focused.

Cool.

Love that.

I logged off.

And then I wrote this post, because I'm tired of it. The pub from earlier tonight wasn't really that big of a deal, but it's the straw that broke the camels back for me. I'm done with this guy (and more broadly, this sort of shit) and I'm going to fucking call him and it out.


TLDR:
It's scratchh, and members of KAT.
[url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/user/scratchh]This scratchh.[/url]





This guy has been a total and complete jackass to me since the second I met him. Even ignoring everything I posted above, he's also probably an actual sociopath. The first time I met him, he pretended to be trans, and asked me personal questions that I wouldn't normally answer if I wasn't talking to a trans person. When one of my friends told me that he was laughing at me with his friends in a private discord, I was angry and upset, and I immediately blocked him on all the platforms I could. He's been a complete nuisance ever since, including this bullshit.

I'm so fucking tired of him, and more broadly, the gross incels in this community who hate trans people.

Please don't fucking touch this dude or anyone he associates with with a 20 mile long pole. He's a minority hating incel. So are plenty of his friends. There are better players, there are better people. There are better people who are also better players. Etc.

Evidence that all the shit I've said is true is down below.


Proof of him being banned on Twitter:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/pSkzSZz.png[/img]

[url=https://twitter.com/scratchhh1]His suspended account[/url]

[url=https://twitter.com/TheSqrtMinus1/status/1113595717841563649]The tweet I sent[/url]

[url=https://www.twitch.tv/videos/403625034]Twitch VOD[/url]


Relevant screenshot if you don't feel like watching the vod:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/KPM1Tpy.png[/img]

Him being banned from my discord AN ENTIRE YEAR AGO:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/zKIwN1b.png[/img]

[url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/45532/these-people-need-to-be-stopped]Also relevant[/url]

This isn't the first time him and other people from KAT have been vile and gross to me, and I'm sure others.

Anyway, if you got this far, thanks for reading, I guess. I probably could've made this shorter and/or put it in a response to his LFT, but I feel like this deserved its own post, as it's been happening for literal years now, and it's not just limited to him.
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Actually fucking disgusting. It’s a real shame that if this was called out in literally any other community this wouldn’t even be up for debate. It’s gonna be embarrassing watching a community I hold so dear argue amongst themselves justifying why any of this is okay.

If you participate in this community fucking speak up and stop people from doing shit like this. It’s not that difficult. If you ever see one of your friends call people trannies or any fucking slur in the book and just sit in silence you’re part of the fucking problem. It’s a real shame that I can personally not do much for proper justice for you but I will make sure this person never plays on pugchamp again (as if they ever got picked anyway).

Actually fucking disgusting. It’s a real shame that if this was called out in literally any other community this wouldn’t even be up for debate. It’s gonna be embarrassing watching a community I hold so dear argue amongst themselves justifying why any of this is okay.

If you participate in this community fucking speak up and stop people from doing shit like this. It’s not that difficult. If you ever see one of your friends call people trannies or any fucking slur in the book and just sit in silence you’re part of the fucking problem. It’s a real shame that I can personally not do much for proper justice for you but I will make sure this person never plays on pugchamp again (as if they ever got picked anyway).
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#3
60 Frags +

i'm not surprised scratchh and his group of autists would also be friends and do the same shit with mireal and his group of autists

i'm not surprised scratchh and his group of autists would also be friends and do the same shit with mireal and his group of autists
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ok I don’t think anyons gonna say this isn’t ok. any normal functioning human being wouldn’t do any of these things this mans just a degenerate

ok I don’t think anyons gonna say this isn’t ok. any normal functioning human being wouldn’t do any of these things this mans just a degenerate
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Honestly this is as much your fault as is his for letting it get to you. Obviously Scratchh has never been prominent for extraordinary brain activity that exceeds a double-digit IQ level, so you will never get him, or people alike, to realise how pathetic he is. Russians have a pretty famous saying regarding this - You can never prove an idiot that he is an idiot.

And yet, him killing you on casual and taunting you shouldn't really trigger any reaction from you, let alone going offline on 'all platforms' and keep changing servers. He probably isn't even a good player to begin with, so it's not like something you couldn't handle.

Regarding twitter, honestly, just ignore/block him. I'm not saying you should not call out such behaviour, I'm saying that you should not be so sensitive about a drawing somebody sent you in a PM over twitter. Collect all the evidence you need and drop it off here, trigger a chain reaction from different leagues to speak up about this, but in the essence of it, you should not be so sensitive - this is the internet, you cannot expect it to be totally friendly at any given time.

Honestly this is as much your fault as is his for letting it get to you. Obviously Scratchh has never been prominent for extraordinary brain activity that exceeds a double-digit IQ level, so you will never get him, or people alike, to realise how pathetic he is. Russians have a pretty famous saying regarding this - You can never prove an idiot that he is an idiot.

And yet, him killing you on casual and taunting you shouldn't really trigger any reaction from you, let alone going offline on 'all platforms' and keep changing servers. He probably isn't even a good player to begin with, so it's not like something you couldn't handle.

Regarding twitter, honestly, just ignore/block him. I'm not saying you should not call out such behaviour, I'm saying that you should not be so sensitive about a drawing somebody sent you in a PM over twitter. Collect all the evidence you need and drop it off here, trigger a chain reaction from different leagues to speak up about this, but in the essence of it, you should not be so sensitive - this is the internet, you cannot expect it to be totally friendly at any given time.
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stephhe's also probably an actual sociopath... He's a minority hating incel. So are plenty of his friends.

damn i had no idea

[quote=steph]he's also probably an actual sociopath... He's a minority hating incel. So are plenty of his friends. [/quote]
damn i had no idea
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#7
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Nursay It’s gonna be embarrassing watching a community I hold so dear argue amongst themselves justifying why any of this is okay. wtzok I don’t think anyons gonna say this isn’t ok. any normal functioning human being wouldn’t do any of these things this mans just a degenerateVisHonestly this is as much your fault as is his for letting it get to you.

Took three fucking posts lmao.

[quote=Nursay] It’s gonna be embarrassing watching a community I hold so dear argue amongst themselves justifying why any of this is okay. [/quote]

[quote=wtz]ok I don’t think anyons gonna say this isn’t ok. any normal functioning human being wouldn’t do any of these things this mans just a degenerate[/quote]

[quote=Vis]Honestly this is as much your fault as is his for letting it get to you.[/quote]

Took three fucking posts lmao.
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-24 Frags +

vis was being completely reasonable

vis was being completely reasonable
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One of your nicknames on steam is "hat kid kills transphones irl" while having hat kid on your profile picture lol.

Anyways, when is the ETF2L ban coming???

One of your nicknames on steam is "hat kid kills transphones irl" while having hat kid on your profile picture lol.

Anyways, when is the ETF2L ban coming???
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Very interesting read. Coming from the villain here, let me explain myself a little bit more in detail.

I KNOW WHAT I DID WAS WRONG. I COMPLETELY OWN UP TO IT, BUT THIS POST EXAGGERATES A LOT.

This post is very much against me and not anybody else, and im certain thats because you hate me the most, and want more people to garner hate against me. That's fine, but let me point out some inconsistencies in your post.

stephNormally this would be great, except that shit like this happened:

https://i.imgur.com/PV81bGw.png

this isnt me. I was accompanied by other people at the time. I was not the one that made this account. There are many accounts out there with shocking names just like this. and almost all of them are made by friends or random people who I wont be naming. example - "rottingspikbrains". I don't know if you just wanted to point that out, or if you geniunely thought it was me, but I thought I'd clear that up.

steph [KAT], btw, is the name of a hate group in the tf2 community (led by mireal, if I'm remembering correctly?) that "dislikes" trans people, as you can probably guess from their name, "Kill All Trannies"

This isnt wrong, I did add KAT to my name, and that is wrong.
However, I've NEVER been apart of that group. Didn't even know about its existance until recently. As said previously, I was talking to people apart of that group, and they thought it'd be funny to do, since it was mainly me and another person stream sniping you. (also, KAT isnt a real thing, its just some stupid joke to begin with, designed specifically to mess with you. )

I really never expected someone just stream-sniping a streamer to be an act of hate, or so you portray it as. It's just some basic form of trolling, that almost everyone does to everyone on twitch. But I'm sorry I was, as it was obviously still meant to troll you and upset you.

stephComing from him, it's obvious that he's just stalking my profile. Anyway, I tweet this: (twitter photo of her calling me a gremlin)

I don't know what you expected from this, I made a new twitter after not having one for probably around a year or longer now,(I NEVER harrased you on any other twitter account.) and I was following TF2 players, saw a post, and liked it. This triggered you enough to make an entire post calling me out by name, and calling me a gremlin. Okay. I don't see how you literally brought that upon yourself. So yeah, I took your very obvious bait, and responded with images of you meant to be embarassing. NONE of what I said was "SLUR RIDDEN" or even "VILE" it was basic stuff, designed to troll you. You decided to continue to respond. instead of blocking me. You brought that upon yourself, like you constantly do everytime something like this happens to you. Like, yeah I completely admit what i've done is pretty messed up and I'm sorry about everything. but you almost always find some way to instigate it to push it further. you feed the trolls as some would say.

steph Fast forward a bit, to today. I get on tf2, to play some pubs with my girlfriend. I played for a bit, nothing much happens. Eventually, though, I run into him in a pub. This time, my name and profile picture are different. He should have no way (other than maybe my hat?) of knowing that it's me. I immediately get hard focused.

I did not hard focus you. This is purely idiotic. You queued into my casual, and I noticed you. Thats literally it. I killed you and taunted. Just like literally any other person would, if they queued with someone they didnt like. I dont understand this part of the post, or why this of all things made you want to post this. You actively switched classes to try and get me too, it was the quite opposite. You were hard focusing me. You had the whole time to leave and play another, but you chose not too. This is a very bad point to make.

steph he's also probably an actual sociopath.

breaking news: being an internet troll, or saying mean things to people makes you a sociopath. Sorry 90% of TFTV, you're a sociopath

steph The first time I met him, he pretended to be trans, and asked me personal questions that I wouldn't normally answer if I wasn't talking to a trans person. When one of my friends told me that he was laughing at me with his friends in a private discord, I was angry and upset, and I immediately blocked him on all the platforms I could. He's been a complete nuisance ever since, including this bullshit.

Interesting, I definitely don't remember pretending to be trans, I added you and asked you questions about being transgender and transitioning, as I was genuinely curious at the time, this was over a year ago. I guess someone mustve told you I was toxic and trying to troll you or something and you got super upset over it. you shit talked me and before i could even type back you just removed and blocked me, and when I joined your discord you insta banned me. I guess if thats what you remember then so be it. but that's definitely not what happened.

steph as it's been happening for literal years now, and it's not just limited to him.

No it hasn't. Maybe 1 year and 3 months max.
The harrassment from me, has barely ever happened. maybe a few times throughout 2018, and just now. You make it out like me and the other people we're going out of our way to harass you, or even stalk you. Which simply isnt true. I never tried to outwardly contact you after what happened, and I never cared to. If i ran into you in a pub or a pug or something, I would taunt you, and maybe call you bad at the game. (I do remember stream sniping you in the past though, and you insta banned me from some community hightower server.)

99% of the harassment you receive is because you do dumb things. It is not because you're trans. I certainly dont care, and most others don't. (I dont speak for their opinions though.)

Also, final statement on my side, I literally never knew any of the trolls behind your harassment until about 2 months ago. I was not apart of, or responsible, for any harassment in the past by any people sporting a [KAT] tag.

I'm sorry for what I did to you. I know what I did was wrong. If you can find it in your heart to forgive me, that would be nice. From here on out. I will attempt to not bother you ever again.

Very interesting read. Coming from the villain here, let me explain myself a little bit more in detail.

[h][b]I KNOW WHAT I DID WAS WRONG. I COMPLETELY OWN UP TO IT, BUT THIS POST EXAGGERATES A LOT. [/b][/h]

This post is very much against me and not anybody else, and im certain thats because you hate me the most, and want more people to garner hate against me. That's fine, but let me point out some inconsistencies in your post.

[quote=steph]Normally this would be great, except that shit like this happened:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/PV81bGw.png[/img]
[/quote]
this isnt me. I was accompanied by other people at the time. I was not the one that made this account. There are many accounts out there with shocking names just like this. and almost all of them are made by friends or random people who I wont be naming. example - "rottingspikbrains". I don't know if you just wanted to point that out, or if you geniunely thought it was me, but I thought I'd clear that up.

[quote=steph] [KAT], btw, is the name of a hate group in the tf2 community (led by mireal, if I'm remembering correctly?) that "dislikes" trans people, as you can probably guess from their name, "Kill All Trannies"
[/quote]
This isnt wrong, I did add KAT to my name, and that is wrong.
However, I've NEVER been apart of that group. Didn't even know about its existance until recently. As said previously, I was talking to people apart of that group, and they thought it'd be funny to do, since it was mainly me and another person stream sniping you. (also, KAT isnt a real thing, its just some stupid joke to begin with, designed specifically to mess with you. )

I really never expected someone just stream-sniping a streamer to be an act of hate, or so you portray it as. It's just some basic form of trolling, that almost everyone does to everyone on twitch. But I'm sorry I was, as it was obviously still meant to troll you and upset you.

[quote=steph]Coming from him, it's obvious that he's just stalking my profile. Anyway, I tweet this: (twitter photo of her calling me a gremlin) [/quote]
I don't know what you expected from this, I made a new twitter after not having one for probably around a year or longer now,(I NEVER harrased you on any other twitter account.) and I was following TF2 players, saw a post, and liked it. This triggered you enough to make an entire post calling me out by name, and calling me a gremlin. Okay. I don't see how you literally brought that upon yourself. So yeah, I took your very obvious bait, and responded with images of you meant to be embarassing. NONE of what I said was "SLUR RIDDEN" or even "VILE" it was basic stuff, designed to troll you. You decided to continue to respond. instead of blocking me. You brought that upon yourself, like you constantly do everytime something like this happens to you. Like, yeah I completely admit what i've done is pretty messed up and I'm sorry about everything. but you almost always find some way to instigate it to push it further. you feed the trolls as some would say.

[quote=steph] Fast forward a bit, to today. I get on tf2, to play some pubs with my girlfriend. I played for a bit, nothing much happens. Eventually, though, I run into him in a pub. This time, my name and profile picture are different. He should have no way (other than maybe my hat?) of knowing that it's me. I immediately get hard focused.
[/quote]
I did not hard focus you. This is purely idiotic. You queued into my casual, and I noticed you. Thats literally it. I killed you and taunted. Just like literally any other person would, if they queued with someone they didnt like. I dont understand this part of the post, or why this of all things made you want to post this. You actively switched classes to try and get me too, it was the quite opposite. You were hard focusing me. You had the whole time to leave and play another, but you chose not too. This is a very bad point to make.

[quote=steph] he's also probably an actual sociopath. [/quote]

breaking news: being an internet troll, or saying mean things to people makes you a sociopath. Sorry 90% of TFTV, you're a sociopath

[quote=steph] The first time I met him, he pretended to be trans, and asked me personal questions that I wouldn't normally answer if I wasn't talking to a trans person. When one of my friends told me that he was laughing at me with his friends in a private discord, I was angry and upset, and I immediately blocked him on all the platforms I could. He's been a complete nuisance ever since, including this bullshit. [/quote]

Interesting, I definitely don't remember pretending to be trans, I added you and asked you questions about being transgender and transitioning, as I was genuinely curious at the time, this was over a year ago. I guess someone mustve told you I was toxic and trying to troll you or something and you got super upset over it. you shit talked me and before i could even type back you just removed and blocked me, and when I joined your discord you insta banned me. I guess if thats what you remember then so be it. but that's definitely not what happened.

[quote=steph] as it's been happening for literal years now, and it's not just limited to him. [/quote]
No it hasn't. Maybe 1 year and 3 months max.
The harrassment from me, has barely ever happened. maybe a few times throughout 2018, and just now. You make it out like me and the other people we're going out of our way to harass you, or even stalk you. Which simply isnt true. I never tried to outwardly contact you after what happened, and I never cared to. If i ran into you in a pub or a pug or something, I would taunt you, and maybe call you bad at the game. (I do remember stream sniping you in the past though, and you insta banned me from some community hightower server.)

99% of the harassment you receive is because you do dumb things. It is not because you're trans. I certainly dont care, and most others don't. (I dont speak for their opinions though.)

Also, final statement on my side, I literally never knew any of the trolls behind your harassment until about 2 months ago. I was not apart of, or responsible, for any harassment in the past by any people sporting a [KAT] tag.

[h][b]I'm sorry for what I did to you. I know what I did was wrong. If you can find it in your heart to forgive me, that would be nice. From here on out. I will attempt to not bother you ever again.[/b][/h]
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#11
-56 Frags +
NursayNursay It’s gonna be embarrassing watching a community I hold so dear argue amongst themselves justifying why any of this is okay. wtzok I don’t think anyons gonna say this isn’t ok. any normal functioning human being wouldn’t do any of these things this mans just a degenerateVisHonestly this is as much your fault as is his for letting it get to you.
Took three fucking posts lmao.

Once again proving you have zero reading comprehension skills

[quote=Nursay][quote=Nursay] It’s gonna be embarrassing watching a community I hold so dear argue amongst themselves justifying why any of this is okay. [/quote]

[quote=wtz]ok I don’t think anyons gonna say this isn’t ok. any normal functioning human being wouldn’t do any of these things this mans just a degenerate[/quote]

[quote=Vis]Honestly this is as much your fault as is his for letting it get to you.[/quote]

Took three fucking posts lmao.[/quote]
Once again proving you have zero reading comprehension skills
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#12
-1 Frags +

ok I read your post again vis and it wasn’t that bad in retrospect just get rid of the last half of your last sentence

ok I read your post again vis and it wasn’t that bad in retrospect just get rid of the last half of your last sentence
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#13
-11 Frags +
Scratchhbreaking news: being an internet troll, or saying mean things to people makes you a sociopath. Sorry 90% of TFTV, you're a sociopath

ok i read your entire post and i'm 99% certain you're a fucking sociopath

[quote=Scratchh]breaking news: being an internet troll, or saying mean things to people makes you a sociopath. Sorry 90% of TFTV, you're a sociopath
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ok i read your entire post and i'm 99% certain you're a fucking sociopath
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#14
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ImmatureLlamaok i read your entire post and i'm 99% certain you're a fucking sociopath

bad shitpost

[quote=ImmatureLlama]ok i read your entire post and i'm 99% certain you're a fucking sociopath[/quote]
bad shitpost
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#15
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you're a loser dog, cannot believe you have to write a post like this defending yourself when you could just be a grown up and just aplogize and genuinely learn from it but (like a sociopath would) you are trying to justify your behavior and give reasons why this person whos done nothing to you deserves to get Epicly Trolled Lole. you're a fucking bum

you're a loser dog, cannot believe you have to write a post like this defending yourself when you could just be a grown up and just aplogize and genuinely learn from it but (like a sociopath would) you are trying to justify your behavior and give reasons why this person whos done nothing to you deserves to get Epicly Trolled Lole. you're a fucking bum
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#16
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Seinfeldyou're a loser dog, cannot believe you have to write a post like this defending yourself when you could just be a grown up and just aplogize and genuinely learn from it but (like a sociopath would) you are trying to justify your behavior and give reasons why this person whos done nothing to you deserves to get Epicly Trolled Lole. you're a fucking bum

shut up

[quote=Seinfeld]you're a loser dog, cannot believe you have to write a post like this defending yourself when you could just be a grown up and just aplogize and genuinely learn from it but (like a sociopath would) you are trying to justify your behavior and give reasons why this person whos done nothing to you deserves to get Epicly Trolled Lole. you're a fucking bum[/quote]
shut up
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#17
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Seinfeldyou're a loser dog, cannot believe you have to write a post like this defending yourself when you could just be a grown up and just aplogize and genuinely learn from it but (like a sociopath would) you are trying to justify your behavior and give reasons why this person whos done nothing to you deserves to get Epicly Trolled Lole. you're a fucking bum

Yeah, clearing misconceptions up sure is sociopathic. I should’ve apologized. My bad.

[quote=Seinfeld]you're a loser dog, cannot believe you have to write a post like this defending yourself when you could just be a grown up and just aplogize and genuinely learn from it but (like a sociopath would) you are trying to justify your behavior and give reasons why this person whos done nothing to you deserves to get Epicly Trolled Lole. you're a fucking bum[/quote]
Yeah, clearing misconceptions up sure is sociopathic. I should’ve apologized. My bad.
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also i like how you go out of the way to protect the identities of your self-described friends who are also participating in the harrassment of this user. why?

also i like how you go out of the way to protect the identities of your self-described friends who are also participating in the harrassment of this user. why?
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#19
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Seinfeldyou're a loser dog, cannot believe you have to write a post like this defending yourself when you could just be a grown up and just aplogize and genuinely learn from it but (like a sociopath would) you are trying to justify your behavior and give reasons why this person whos done nothing to you deserves to get Epicly Trolled Lole. you're a fucking bum

Holy shit get off your fucking high horse you mongoloid

[quote=Seinfeld]you're a loser dog, cannot believe you have to write a post like this defending yourself when you could just be a grown up and just aplogize and genuinely learn from it but (like a sociopath would) you are trying to justify your behavior and give reasons why this person whos done nothing to you deserves to get Epicly Trolled Lole. you're a fucking bum[/quote]
Holy shit get off your fucking high horse you mongoloid
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Seinfeldalso i like how you go out of the way to protect the identities of your self-described friends who are also participating in the harrassment of this user. why?

Because people who are involved already know who they are, why would I be required to name drop? If Stephanie wants, she can post all the peoples names herself. It’s not like they’d care anyway.

[quote=Seinfeld]also i like how you go out of the way to protect the identities of your self-described friends who are also participating in the harrassment of this user. why?[/quote]
Because people who are involved already know who they are, why would I be required to name drop? If Stephanie wants, she can post all the peoples names herself. It’s not like they’d care anyway.
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ScratchhSeinfeldalso i like how you go out of the way to protect the identities of your self-described friends who are also participating in the harrassment of this user. why?Because people who are involved already know who they are, why would I be required to name drop? If Stephanie wants, she can post all the peoples names herself. It’s not like they’d care anyway.

she clearly doesn't know who it is if she thought it was you, so she cant just post them herself and I'm sure she would have if she could. "they know who they are" is a weak excuse to justify leaving your friends out of something they are complacent in

[quote=Scratchh][quote=Seinfeld]also i like how you go out of the way to protect the identities of your self-described friends who are also participating in the harrassment of this user. why?[/quote]
Because people who are involved already know who they are, why would I be required to name drop? If Stephanie wants, she can post all the peoples names herself. It’s not like they’d care anyway.[/quote]
she clearly doesn't know who it is if she thought it was you, so she cant just post them herself and I'm sure she would have if she could. "they know who they are" is a weak excuse to justify leaving your friends out of something they are complacent in
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#22
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paging cuckoshi do ban him from etf2l

paging cuckoshi do ban him from etf2l
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#23
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SeinfeldScratchhSeinfeldalso i like how you go out of the way to protect the identities of your self-described friends who are also participating in the harrassment of this user. why?Because people who are involved already know who they are, why would I be required to name drop? If Stephanie wants, she can post all the peoples names herself. It’s not like they’d care anyway.she clearly doesn't know who it is if she thought it was you, so she cant just post them herself and I'm sure she would have if she could. "they know who they are" is a weak excuse to justify leaving your friends out of something they are complacent in

You did not read Stephanie’s post

Shut up

[quote=Seinfeld][quote=Scratchh][quote=Seinfeld]also i like how you go out of the way to protect the identities of your self-described friends who are also participating in the harrassment of this user. why?[/quote]
Because people who are involved already know who they are, why would I be required to name drop? If Stephanie wants, she can post all the peoples names herself. It’s not like they’d care anyway.[/quote]
she clearly doesn't know who it is if she thought it was you, so she cant just post them herself and I'm sure she would have if she could. "they know who they are" is a weak excuse to justify leaving your friends out of something they are complacent in[/quote]
You did not read Stephanie’s post

Shut up
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NursayActually fucking disgusting. It’s a real shame that if this was called out in literally any other community this wouldn’t even be up for debate. It’s gonna be embarrassing watching a community I hold so dear argue amongst themselves justifying why any of this is okay.
[quote=Nursay]Actually fucking disgusting. It’s a real shame that if this was called out in literally any other community this wouldn’t even be up for debate. It’s gonna be embarrassing watching a community I hold so dear argue amongst themselves justifying why any of this is okay.[/quote]
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something something page 2

edit: posts got deleted and now I look like a fool

something something page 2

edit: posts got deleted and now I look like a fool
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SeinfeldNursayActually fucking disgusting. It’s a real shame that if this was called out in literally any other community this wouldn’t even be up for debate. It’s gonna be embarrassing watching a community I hold so dear argue amongst themselves justifying why any of this is okay.VisOnce again proving you have zero reading comprehension skills
[quote=Seinfeld][quote=Nursay]Actually fucking disgusting. It’s a real shame that if this was called out in literally any other community this wouldn’t even be up for debate. It’s gonna be embarrassing watching a community I hold so dear argue amongst themselves justifying why any of this is okay.[/quote][/quote]
[quote=Vis]
Once again proving you have zero reading comprehension skills[/quote]
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https://twitter.com/AlexMcL_18/status/1113166470106804224

https://twitter.com/AlexMcL_18/status/1113166470106804224
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This is honestly just sad at this point.

Visyou should not be so sensitive - this is the internet, you cannot expect it to be totally friendly at any given time.

Its much harder to ignore constant targeted harassment than a random person on the internet saying a slur. She did block him and call him out, and he kept on doing it for over a year.

Vistrigger a chain reaction from different leagues to speak up about this

How many times before people get it? I’ve seen a variation of this thread like 4 times and nothing ever changes.

ScratchhKAT isnt a real thing, its just some stupid joke to begin with, designed specifically to mess with you.

Is that honestly your defence? You don’t need to believe in it to be transphobic, it’s about the impact not the intent.

I was about to go through a point-by-point rebuttal but stopped midway cause I know people will just laugh and post memes here, and nothing will change. I’m just tired. Honestly just do what countries did with SA during apartheid to force them to change. It's a tiny community, it's pretty simple to do.

This is honestly just sad at this point.

[quote=Vis]you should not be so sensitive - this is the internet, you cannot expect it to be totally friendly at any given time.[/quote]
Its much harder to ignore constant targeted harassment than a random person on the internet saying a slur. She did block him and call him out, and he kept on doing it for over a year.

[quote=Vis]trigger a chain reaction from different leagues to speak up about this[/quote]

How many times before people get it? I’ve seen a variation of this thread like 4 times and nothing ever changes.

[quote=Scratchh]KAT isnt a real thing, its just some stupid joke to begin with, designed specifically to mess with you.[/quote]

Is that honestly your defence? You don’t need to believe in it to be transphobic, it’s about the impact not the intent.

I was about to go through a point-by-point rebuttal but stopped midway cause I know people will just laugh and post memes here, and nothing will change. I’m just tired. Honestly just do what countries did with SA during apartheid to force them to change. It's a tiny community, it's pretty simple to do.
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#29
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Is taunting a form of cyber bullying?

Is taunting a form of cyber bullying?
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crib_This is honestly just sad at this point.
Visyou should not be so sensitive - this is the internet, you cannot expect it to be totally friendly at any given time.Its much harder to ignore constant targeted harassment than a random person on the internet saying a slur. She did block him and call him out, and he kept on doing it for over a year.
Vistrigger a chain reaction from different leagues to speak up about this
How many times before people get it? I’ve seen a variation of this thread like 4 times and nothing ever changes.
ScratchhKAT isnt a real thing, its just some stupid joke to begin with, designed specifically to mess with you.
Is that honestly your defence? You don’t need to believe in it to be transphobic, it’s about the impact not the intent.

I was about to go through a point-by-point rebuttal but stopped midway cause I know people will just laugh and post memes here, and nothing will change. I’m just tired. Honestly just do what countries did with SA during apartheid to force them to change. It's a tiny community, it's pretty simple to do.

I said this, I didn’t defend myself. I openly admitted that what I did was wrong and I apologized like 4 times in the post. My post was entirely based on me clearing up misconceptions and false information.

[quote=crib_]This is honestly just sad at this point.

[quote=Vis]you should not be so sensitive - this is the internet, you cannot expect it to be totally friendly at any given time.[/quote]
Its much harder to ignore constant targeted harassment than a random person on the internet saying a slur. She did block him and call him out, and he kept on doing it for over a year.

[quote=Vis]trigger a chain reaction from different leagues to speak up about this[/quote]

How many times before people get it? I’ve seen a variation of this thread like 4 times and nothing ever changes.

[quote=Scratchh]KAT isnt a real thing, its just some stupid joke to begin with, designed specifically to mess with you.[/quote]

Is that honestly your defence? You don’t need to believe in it to be transphobic, it’s about the impact not the intent.

I was about to go through a point-by-point rebuttal but stopped midway cause I know people will just laugh and post memes here, and nothing will change. I’m just tired. Honestly just do what countries did with SA during apartheid to force them to change. It's a tiny community, it's pretty simple to do.[/quote]
I said this, I didn’t defend myself. I openly admitted that what I did was wrong and I apologized like 4 times in the post. My post was entirely based on me clearing up misconceptions and false information.
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