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update is released
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#601
-15 Frags +
oblaerynnuberchainSpeaking of which does anybody have a typed out version plznthnx
https://pastebin.com/bexwYuqP courtesy of http://www.free-ocr.com/

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andemana launcnrng ortnerr target). and so tnerr damageamemrar can greatly exceed tnat oltne otner
classes that also use tnrs weapon Rather tnan take a nezvrennandea approacn to solve tnrs, we‘ve rnstead
decrded to remove arrnrast as a source tor mrnr7crr|S

Incredible, thanks

There's a reason why it's called "free"

[quote=obla][quote=erynn][quote=uberchain]Speaking of which does anybody have a typed out version plznthnx[/quote]

https://pastebin.com/bexwYuqP courtesy of http://www.free-ocr.com/[/quote]


7 Pyras are too easrly able to take advantage ot tnrs weapons prrmary tealure vra arrnlast tr e nmperrarty‘
andemana launcnrng ortnerr target). and so tnerr damageamemrar can greatly exceed tnat oltne otner
classes that also use tnrs weapon Rather tnan take a nezvrennandea approacn to solve tnrs, we‘ve rnstead
decrded to remove arrnrast as a source tor mrnr7crr|S

Incredible, thanks[/quote]
There's a reason why it's called "free"
602
#602
37 Frags +
Mitch_There's a reason why it's called "free"

https://i.imgur.com/rTCuFyD.png

some free things are aight

[quote=Mitch_]There's a reason why it's called "free"[/quote]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/rTCuFyD.png[/img]some free things are aight
603
#603
22 Frags +
uberchainMitch_There's a reason why it's called "free"https://i.imgur.com/rTCuFyD.pngsome free things are aight

idk that game kinda blows

[quote=uberchain][quote=Mitch_]There's a reason why it's called "free"[/quote]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/rTCuFyD.png[/img]some free things are aight[/quote]

idk that game kinda blows
604
#604
12 Frags +

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147

basically what they had in june +/- a couple stats and like 3-5 more useless unlocks wow what a competent dev team what a use of 15 months for a pitiful number of balance changes + maps and skins they cant even be bothered to make themselves
ah well could be worse at least they dont do csgo level unbalancing (anymore)

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147

basically what they had in june +/- a couple stats and like 3-5 more useless unlocks wow what a competent dev team what a use of 15 months for a pitiful number of balance changes + maps and skins they cant even be bothered to make themselves
ah well could be worse at least they dont do csgo level unbalancing (anymore)
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#605
-41 Frags +

Holy shit this community will never be pleased

Holy shit this community will never be pleased
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#606
64 Frags +

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#607
44 Frags +
boxcarHoly shit this community will never be pleased

it's like we waited over 400 days for about 150 days worth of work or something

[quote=boxcar]Holy shit this community will never be pleased[/quote]
it's like we waited over 400 days for about 150 days worth of work or something
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#608
12 Frags +
viperboxcarHoly shit this community will never be pleasedit's like we waited over 400 days for about 150 days worth of work or something

and they couldn't release it on time cuz this 1gb (at the very most) update is just too massive

[quote=viper][quote=boxcar]Holy shit this community will never be pleased[/quote]
it's like we waited over 400 days for about 150 days worth of work or something[/quote]
and they couldn't release it on time cuz this 1gb (at the very most) update is just too massive
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#609
7 Frags +

I really hope they'll pull some surprises for next day.
Otherwise this update, although decent, will be pretty underwhelming

I really hope they'll pull some surprises for next day.
Otherwise this update, although decent, will be pretty underwhelming
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#610
34 Frags +
boxcarHoly shit this community will never be pleased

Hard to be excited for an update that took over 400 days and promised a core feature already present in two of Valve's other games and presented a list of balance changes nearly identical to the one given three months ago.

[quote=boxcar]Holy shit this community will never be pleased[/quote]

Hard to be excited for an update that took over 400 days and promised a core feature already present in two of Valve's other games and presented a list of balance changes nearly identical to the one given three months ago.
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#611
42 Frags +

Mammoth, get it? Cause tf2 will seize to exist!

Mammoth, get it? Cause tf2 will seize to exist!
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#612
4 Frags +

What the actual fuck, this is not the updated I was hoping to wake up too :/
I was hoping for an update to competitive matchmaking and contracts that bring new people to said matchmaking...

What the actual fuck, this is not the updated I was hoping to wake up too :/
I was hoping for an update to competitive matchmaking and contracts that bring new people to said matchmaking...
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#613
30 Frags +
boxcarHoly shit this community will never be pleased

I don't think people are mad with what's been delivered.
They're just mad at what's not being delivered.

[quote=boxcar]Holy shit this community will never be pleased[/quote]

I don't think people are mad with what's been delivered.
They're just mad at what's not being delivered.
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#614
13 Frags +
syphMammoth, get it? Cause tf2 will seize to exist!

>seize

[quote=syph]Mammoth, get it? Cause tf2 will seize to exist![/quote]

>seize
615
#615
28 Frags +

While it is extremely disappointing that the MM content isn't included in the update, I am not too upset about it.

I'm going to play devil's advocate here for Valve.

Yes, the MM changes weren't included with the update, but that doesn't mean that they weren't and aren't still being worked on during the time we've had to wait. I would imagine that the reason this update took so incredibly long is because they had to alternate between sorting out their spaghetti code to fix pyro's flames AND work on MM at the same time.

Just because the changes they've been working on for MM aren't present in the update doesn't mean that they don't exist, (if we're to believe Jill), because they do. We just don't have access to them at the given moment.

TLDR;

They actually did work their asses off, but unfortunately all the work they put into MM just isn't ready yet because its a MASSIVE undertaking to make it not blow dick. You guys are acting like they haven't even begun to start working on it and that they focused the entirety of the year working on only what they're giving us now, but that's not correct, and there's more coming.

While it is extremely disappointing that the MM content isn't included in the update, I am not too upset about it.

I'm going to play devil's advocate here for Valve.

Yes, the MM changes weren't included with the update, but that doesn't mean that they weren't and aren't still being worked on during the time we've had to wait. I would imagine that the reason this update took so incredibly long is because they had to alternate between sorting out their spaghetti code to fix pyro's flames AND work on MM at the same time.

Just because the changes they've been working on for MM aren't present in the update doesn't mean that they don't exist, (if we're to believe Jill), because they do. We just don't have access to them at the given moment.


TLDR;

They actually did work their asses off, but unfortunately all the work they put into MM just isn't ready yet because its a MASSIVE undertaking to make it not blow dick. You guys are acting like they haven't even begun to start working on it and that they focused the entirety of the year working on only what they're giving us now, but that's not correct, and there's more coming.
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#616
32 Frags +

you guys would have been more disappointed if they released mm changes but they were unfinished, just wait.

you guys would have been more disappointed if they released mm changes but they were unfinished, just wait.
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#617
-5 Frags +

you know what I wouldn't have been disappointed with? if they hadnt wasted time on stupid contracts or fucking fart taunts until matchmaking was fixed

you know what I wouldn't have been disappointed with? if they hadnt wasted time on stupid contracts or fucking fart taunts until matchmaking was fixed
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#618
12 Frags +

it makes perfect sense that this wasn't a huge update, honestly. you have to realize that most of these devs are likely not the original ones, and they're almost definitely trying to work against really bad code from other people

if you know anything abt programming, you know that it sucks really hard to try and even read old, badly-commented code you made from years ago, much less old code from others. imagine that, but with 10 years' worth of other people constantly adding code without ever improving it. imagine being the person who chose, willingly, in this dumb-ass video game company where nobody takes responsibility for their own bugs, to try and fix it. the fact that the few people involved managed to actually fix a few really important things at all is a fuckin miracle

it makes perfect sense that this wasn't a huge update, honestly. you have to realize that most of these devs are likely not the original ones, and they're almost definitely trying to work against really bad code from other people

if you know anything abt programming, you know that it sucks really hard to try and even read old, badly-commented code you made from years ago, much less old code from others. imagine that, but with 10 years' worth of other people constantly adding code without ever improving it. imagine being the person who chose, willingly, in this dumb-ass video game company where nobody takes responsibility for their own bugs, to try and fix it. the fact that the few people involved managed to actually fix a few really important things at all is a fuckin miracle
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#619
23 Frags +

I'm glad that valve haven't made the mistake of releasing a version of matchmaking that isn't ready again. (Like when it came out of beta and was dogshit) and I think all the changes in this update are in the right direction.

Having said that, the rate that work is getting done really shows the lack of resources they're putting into this game. Please hire more people.

I'm glad that valve haven't made the mistake of releasing a version of matchmaking that isn't ready again. (Like when it came out of beta and was dogshit) and I think all the changes in this update are in the right direction.

Having said that, the rate that work is getting done really shows the lack of resources they're putting into this game. Please hire more people.
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#620
8 Frags +
ZestyPlease hire more people.

Yep. Either hire more people or make sure the time you are using for working is used efficiently.

[quote=Zesty]Please hire more people.[/quote]
Yep. Either hire more people or make sure the time you are using for working is used efficiently.
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#621
-1 Frags +
zanayou guys would have been more disappointed if they released mm changes but they were unfinished, just wait.

I hope this is a joke because you can use that argument for literally anything to excuse never seeing it come to the light of day, with the added benefit that when it does come and it turns out it sucks you can just say "it was rushed". Time isn't the only factor involved in making a product good and Valve does not deserve to be shielded from the very obvious criticism that they need to hear yet never act upon.

[quote=zana]you guys would have been more disappointed if they released mm changes but they were unfinished, just wait.[/quote]
I hope this is a joke because you can use that argument for literally anything to excuse never seeing it come to the light of day, with the added benefit that when it does come and it turns out it sucks you can just say "it was rushed". Time isn't the only factor involved in making a product good and Valve does not deserve to be shielded from the very obvious criticism that they need to hear yet never act upon.
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#622
7 Frags +

nice all the pyro items sound like valve went full retard once again thanks gaben

Really happy to read about another stun ability in tf2

nice all the pyro items sound like valve went full retard once again thanks gaben

Really happy to read about another stun ability in tf2
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#623
2 Frags +

This is a huge BibleThump if I ever saw one :(

This is a huge BibleThump if I ever saw one :(
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#624
37 Frags +

Let's look at everything Valve made in this update. No community stuff.

-SFM
-2 taunts
-1 map
-Half of the War Paints
-5 weapons, 2 of which recycle features from existing weapons
-Contracts
-Non-gameplay bug fixes
-Casual mode improvements
-Pyro flame and airblast fixes
-New menus
-Changed the stats of 25 weapons, most of which will not affect the competitive community in any discernible way. There are around 130 weapons in TF2.

I think that's everything.

This update took 430 days.

Let's look at everything Valve made in this update. No community stuff.

-SFM
-2 taunts
-1 map
-Half of the War Paints
-5 weapons, 2 of which recycle features from existing weapons
-Contracts
-Non-gameplay bug fixes
-Casual mode improvements
-Pyro flame and airblast fixes
-New menus
-Changed the stats of 25 weapons, most of which will not affect the competitive community in any discernible way. There are around 130 weapons in TF2.

I think that's everything.

This update took 430 days.
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#625
9 Frags +

20 months later still no ELO ?
pathethic
wish we got the comp MM thing before valve went nuts over side-projects like VR, they might have actually put effort in it

20 months later still no ELO ?
pathethic
wish we got the comp MM thing before valve went nuts over side-projects like VR, they might have actually put effort in it
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#626
19 Frags +

'afterburn now reduces direct healing by 20%'

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'afterburn now reduces direct healing by 20%'

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#627
-2 Frags +

lol u guys are hella ungrateful

be happy u even got a fuckign update.. haha seriously devs read the shit u post. If I was a tf2 dev I would be more inclined to go work on something else than rigorously produce updates for u fucks to throw it back in their face n say it's shit

lol u guys are hella ungrateful

be happy u even got a fuckign update.. haha seriously devs read the shit u post. If I was a tf2 dev I would be more inclined to go work on something else than rigorously produce updates for u fucks to throw it back in their face n say it's shit
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#628
20 Frags +

I agree with roach, if I was a developer and I'd put all this work in and all you get is flamed for it, you lose motivation. I know they didnt give you the update you wanted but like (idk if this is true) it's not easy to just fix everything, they are probably a small team and like someone said the code that has been used is probably fucked. Like the game might have 10 years old code in it, and fixing someone elses code is not very easy. Yeah they used a lot of time on different things, but they have to in order to keep it fresh and new. Have the casual kids do something else, do you really think they are only going to give the competitive side updates?

Also, (not sure if this is true either) the people who are working on the taunts and cosmetic and stuff probably dont know how to code they are just designers. I'm guessing they have different people for coding. So maybe yeah they should hire more people but it is valve after all.

What I'm saying is you are going to get these taunts and cosmetic shit either way, theres other people doing that. So no they cant just not do that and put all their time into fixing shit, because thats not what everyone there does.

I agree with roach, if I was a developer and I'd put all this work in and all you get is flamed for it, you lose motivation. I know they didnt give you the update you wanted but like (idk if this is true) it's not easy to just fix everything, they are probably a small team and like someone said the code that has been used is probably fucked. Like the game might have 10 years old code in it, and fixing someone elses code is not very easy. Yeah they used a lot of time on different things, but they have to in order to keep it fresh and new. Have the casual kids do something else, do you really think they are only going to give the competitive side updates?

Also, (not sure if this is true either) the people who are working on the taunts and cosmetic and stuff probably dont know how to code they are just designers. I'm guessing they have different people for coding. So maybe yeah they should hire more people but it is valve after all.

What I'm saying is you are going to get these taunts and cosmetic shit either way, theres other people doing that. So no they cant just not do that and put all their time into fixing shit, because thats not what everyone there does.
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#629
-2 Frags +

hahaha yea let me sit a home n spam f5 on the update page until its released then fuckn bitch n moan if its not good enough fuck u guys

hahaha yea let me sit a home n spam f5 on the update page until its released then fuckn bitch n moan if its not good enough fuck u guys
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#630
6 Frags +

As a Medic main, Im interested if vita saw will be viable and will be allowed

As a Medic main, Im interested if vita saw will be viable and will be allowed
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