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jediflamaster banned for life on etf2l
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#91
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Jedi is from Poland. The Nazi's invaded Poland to subjugated, enslaved, and exterminated its people. ETF2L Staff and players that support Jedi's ban must be Nazi's. This has been a public service announcement, Thank you.

Jedi is from Poland. The Nazi's invaded Poland to subjugated, enslaved, and exterminated its people. ETF2L Staff and players that support Jedi's ban must be Nazi's. This has been a public service announcement, Thank you.
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#92
refresh.tf
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YeeHawAoshiThis because it was only a small part of the reason why the original player got banned yet it constantly gets depicted as the only thing that he did wrong.so what else did he do wrong, apart from upload the video?

perhaps check the banpost of the original player ?

[quote=YeeHaw][quote=Aoshi]This because it was only a small part of the reason why the [b]original player[/b] got banned yet it constantly gets depicted as the only thing that he did wrong.[/quote]
so what else did he do wrong, apart from upload the video?[/quote]
perhaps check the banpost of the original player ?
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#93
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gay jail

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gay jail
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#94
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"this is only about going against a head admins request"
I guess the Fuhrer is still alive in Europe, glad I don't live there.

"this is only about going against a head admins request"
I guess the Fuhrer is still alive in Europe, glad I don't live there.
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#95
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AoshiOkay, I'll defend myself real quick because Jedi is just going to fully leak the conversation anyway.

Firstly, yes I find dealing with these kind of cases retarded. They're a waste of my limited free time and I'd rather spend my time on actually hosting/managing the tournaments rather then having the deal with petty drama. Its messy and takes a lot of time and effort to properly look into.

This case in particular is stupid because its basically telling a player that knew he would be banned that there are indeed consequences, which in this case is an indefinite blacklisting until the video is gone. I tried to understand his train of though before fully applying it but he seems to not have any remorse or understanding of what he reuploaded even after I gave him the details to the case which will remain private for the rest.

I'll copy-paste a section that I've commented before as to why we include off-site content.Its pretty straight forward really, on-site only includes the forums and comments. No match logs, steam chats, discord and so on and so forth. To be able to take in cases fully it will require us to look at off-site evidence when presented.I'll add onto that, that generally off-site is ignored unless if its directly linked to ETF2L.

This case is a nice example as Jedi is talking about an ETF2L admin case. The platform where this is done has little impact on that. The largest issue with the video in itself at this point is that its spreading misinformation. This because it was only a small part of the reason why the original player got banned yet it constantly gets depicted as the only thing that he did wrong.
JediIf and admin tells me to put a giant cactus up my ass and if I don't put a giant cactus up my ass I can get banned.What?
This is one of weirdest analogies I've ever seen. Yes you can get banned for going against what an admin says. The request of the admin will not be anything ridiculous and if it is then the position of that admin will be questioned instead as we work as a group.
Your super simplistic example is made as ridiculous as possible. You could replace the cactus with any other element and it would still hold true.

"An admin told me that I would get a minor warning if I use 2 pyros during a game. We used 2 pyros during a game and got warning."
"An admin told me I would get a default loss if I abuse a bug. I abused it and now I got a default loss."

Your punishment is an indefinite ban that is just directly linked to your own stubbornness at this point. So there is very little discussion that is still relevant to it.

On a different side note that I do want to address. We have been slacking a bit with some recent admin cases as well as lack of cups. Mainly due to some lack of motivation and communication. We'll be paying extra attention to work on these in the near future. Working with volunteers that do this in their spare time will always make it difficult but we'll always aim to make the league better.

It seems you are drunk with power, Fuhrer

[quote=Aoshi]Okay, I'll defend myself real quick because Jedi is just going to fully leak the conversation anyway.

Firstly, yes I find dealing with these kind of cases retarded. They're a waste of my limited free time and I'd rather spend my time on actually hosting/managing the tournaments rather then having the deal with petty drama. Its messy and takes a lot of time and effort to properly look into.

This case in particular is stupid because its basically telling a player that knew he would be banned that there are indeed consequences, which in this case is an indefinite blacklisting until the video is gone. I tried to understand his train of though before fully applying it but he seems to not have any remorse or understanding of what he reuploaded even after I gave him the details to the case which will remain private for the rest.

I'll copy-paste a section that I've commented before as to why we include off-site content.
[quote]
Its pretty straight forward really, on-site only includes the forums and comments. No match logs, steam chats, discord and so on and so forth. To be able to take in cases fully it will require us to look at off-site evidence when presented.
[/quote]
I'll add onto that, that generally off-site is ignored unless if its directly linked to ETF2L.

This case is a nice example as Jedi is talking about an ETF2L admin case. The platform where this is done has little impact on that. The largest issue with the video in itself at this point is that its spreading misinformation. This because it was only a small part of the reason why the original player got banned yet it constantly gets depicted as the only thing that he did wrong.

[quote=Jedi]If and admin tells me to put a giant cactus up my ass and if I don't put a giant cactus up my ass I can get banned.[/quote]
What?
This is one of weirdest analogies I've ever seen. Yes you can get banned for going against what an admin says. The request of the admin will not be anything ridiculous and if it is then the position of that admin will be questioned instead as we work as a group.
Your super simplistic example is made as ridiculous as possible. You could replace the cactus with any other element and it would still hold true.

"An admin told me that I would get a minor warning if I use 2 pyros during a game. We used 2 pyros during a game and got warning."
"An admin told me I would get a default loss if I abuse a bug. I abused it and now I got a default loss."

Your punishment is an indefinite ban that is just directly linked to your own stubbornness at this point. So there is very little discussion that is still relevant to it.

On a different side note that I do want to address. We have been slacking a bit with some recent admin cases as well as lack of cups. Mainly due to some lack of motivation and communication. We'll be paying extra attention to work on these in the near future. Working with volunteers that do this in their spare time will always make it difficult but we'll always aim to make the league better.[/quote]

It seems you are drunk with power, Fuhrer
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#96
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90% of the people posting in this thread will look back when they're 30 and be like

what the fuck was wrong with me

90% of the people posting in this thread will look back when they're 30 and be like

what the fuck was wrong with me
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#97
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Getawhale90% of the people posting in this thread will look back when they're 30 and be like

what the fuck was wrong with me

especially u
https://youtu.be/cn3hMIJfWTg?t=4

[quote=Getawhale]90% of the people posting in this thread will look back when they're 30 and be like

what the fuck was wrong with me[/quote]
especially u
https://youtu.be/cn3hMIJfWTg?t=4
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#98
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AoshiOkay, I'll defend myself real quick because Jedi is just going to fully leak the conversation anyway.

Maybe u should've told him that if he does that, he'll get removed from ETF2L completely.
That worked p well last time.

[quote=Aoshi]Okay, I'll defend myself real quick because Jedi is just going to fully leak the conversation anyway.
[/quote]

Maybe u should've told him that if he does that, he'll get removed from ETF2L completely.
That worked p well last time.
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#99
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Getawhale90% of the people posting in this thread will look back when they're 30 and be like

what the fuck was wrong with me

90% of the people in this thread think you're an idiot

[quote=Getawhale]90% of the people posting in this thread will look back when they're 30 and be like

what the fuck was wrong with me[/quote]
90% of the people in this thread think you're an idiot
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#100
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i dont like getawhale much, but hes right. yall are really gunna regret the shit uve been spewing one day when ur older and wiser and u will really look back at the past things youve said and really contemplate if what u were doing was really the right thing to do (and most likely u will say what you did was terrible).

i dont like getawhale much, but hes right. yall are really gunna regret the shit uve been spewing one day when ur older and wiser and u will really look back at the past things youve said and really contemplate if what u were doing was really the right thing to do (and most likely u will say what you did was terrible).
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#101
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both tekashi and jediflamaster out here catching life senteces bro....

both tekashi and jediflamaster out here catching life senteces bro....
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#102
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following reasonable requests from authority is just what HITLER expected people to do

following reasonable requests from authority is just what HITLER expected people to do
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#103
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sciriosIt seems you are drunk with power, Fuhrer

I know Americans aren't that great with countryflags, so I will have you know that Aoshi is from Belgium, not Germany ;-)

ballzyThis is just rumour I heard, but wasn't the reason that this blown up at all in the first place because Stinson had a romantic interest in the Bluebunny?
If so, seems kinda shitty for a head admin to take sides in this kind of thing. :/

Just because people are picking this up and take it seriously: it is not true. I do not think I have ever even messaged Bluebunny in my life.

rongoljedimaster does it for the PEOPLE.

Not all heroes wear capes!

jediflamasterHere's a quick summary of what happenned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sMx8Rn2Fk8

Apart from multiple logically flawed arguments you are presenting, the metaphor of the cactus up your arse is straight up not supporting your case. We did not tell you to do anything at all. On the contrary: we told you to simply do nothing. Here is the conversation you and I had, using your metaphor of choice:

Jedi: Hey Stinson, will it hurt if I shove this cactus up my ass?
DCS: Yes, Jedi, it will likely hurt like hell. You probably shouldn't do it!
Jedi: I will take my chances, I am shoving it all the way up there!

Aaaand then he complained that his anus hurts.

Glastry[...] jedi succeeded to trigger ETF2L admins..

I can assure you our entire staff is highly un-triggered. The only thing that we feel from time to time is exhaustion from the fact that we have to deal with individuals, whose only intend seems to be to provoke/create and spread false rumors about / harass players and admins of the league.
We took almost a month to make a decision regarding this Jedi case. We surely were not triggered for 4 weeks straight.
Most of us are simply eating popcorn while reading this or have this thread open, occasionally pressing F5, while watching the latest episode of their favourite anime... :P

[quote=scirios]
It seems you are drunk with power, Fuhrer[/quote]
I know Americans aren't that great with countryflags, so I will have you know that Aoshi is from Belgium, not Germany ;-)

[quote=ballzy]This is just rumour I heard, but wasn't the reason that this blown up at all in the first place because Stinson had a romantic interest in the Bluebunny?
If so, seems kinda shitty for a head admin to take sides in this kind of thing. :/[/quote]
Just because people are picking this up and take it seriously: it is not true. I do not think I have ever even messaged Bluebunny in my life.

[quote=rongol]jedimaster does it for the PEOPLE.[/quote]
Not all heroes wear capes!

[quote=jediflamaster]Here's a quick summary of what happenned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sMx8Rn2Fk8[/quote]
Apart from multiple logically flawed arguments you are presenting, the metaphor of the cactus up your arse is straight up not supporting your case. We did not tell you to do anything at all. On the contrary: we told you to simply do nothing. Here is the conversation you and I had, using your metaphor of choice:

Jedi: Hey Stinson, will it hurt if I shove this cactus up my ass?
DCS: Yes, Jedi, it will likely hurt like hell. You probably shouldn't do it!
Jedi: I will take my chances, I am shoving it all the way up there!

Aaaand then he complained that his anus hurts.

[quote=Glastry][...] jedi succeeded to trigger ETF2L admins..[/quote]
I can assure you our entire staff is highly un-triggered. The only thing that we feel from time to time is exhaustion from the fact that we have to deal with individuals, whose only intend seems to be to provoke/create and spread false rumors about / harass players and admins of the league.
We took almost a month to make a decision regarding this Jedi case. We surely were not triggered for 4 weeks straight.
Most of us are simply eating popcorn while reading this or have this thread open, occasionally pressing F5, while watching the latest episode of their favourite anime... :P
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#104
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http://puu.sh/C9QzE/bf16d71f6f.png

http://puu.sh/C9QzE/bf16d71f6f.png
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#105
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JediIf and admin tells me to put a giant cactus up my ass

Been there done that, don't even try it mate trust me on this one.

Stinson_OutsciriosIt seems you are drunk with power, FuhrerI know Americans aren't that great with countryflags, so I will have you know that Aoshi is from Belgium, not Germany ;-)

Haha but Hitler wasn't even from Germany, he was actually born in Belgium!

[quote=Jedi]If and admin tells me to put a giant cactus up my ass[/quote]
Been there done that, don't even try it mate trust me on this one.

[quote=Stinson_Out][quote=scirios]
It seems you are drunk with power, Fuhrer[/quote]
I know Americans aren't that great with countryflags, so I will have you know that Aoshi is from Belgium, not Germany ;-)
[/quote]

Haha but Hitler wasn't even from Germany, he was actually born in Belgium!
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#106
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhrwC2BoAkE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhrwC2BoAkE
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#107
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Stinson_OutApart from multiple logically flawed arguments you are presenting, the metaphor of the cactus up your arse is straight up not supporting your case. We did not tell you to do anything at all. On the contrary: we told you to simply do nothing. Here is the conversation you and I had, using your metaphor of choice:

Jedi: Hey Stinson, will it hurt if I shove this cactus up my ass?
DCS: Yes, Jedi, it will likely hurt like hell. You probably shouldn't do it!
Jedi: I will take my chances, I am shoving it all the way up there!

Aaaand then he complained that his anus hurts.

OK Stinson, let's switch the cactus dynamic around if that helps you get the point. You can tell me not to stick a cactus up my ass all you want, but using your power as an etf2l admin to try to pressure me into pulling the cactus out of my ass when I want it in there is just dumb. Aoshi himself said you got no complaints about the video from BB. "I don't want you to do it" isn't a justification for a ban.

[quote=Stinson_Out]
Apart from multiple logically flawed arguments you are presenting, the metaphor of the cactus up your arse is straight up not supporting your case. We did not tell you to do anything at all. On the contrary: we told you to simply do nothing. Here is the conversation you and I had, using your metaphor of choice:

Jedi: Hey Stinson, will it hurt if I shove this cactus up my ass?
DCS: Yes, Jedi, it will likely hurt like hell. You probably shouldn't do it!
Jedi: I will take my chances, I am shoving it all the way up there!

Aaaand then he complained that his anus hurts.
[/quote]
OK Stinson, let's switch the cactus dynamic around if that helps you get the point. You can tell me not to stick a cactus up my ass all you want, but using your power as an etf2l admin to try to pressure me into pulling the cactus out of my ass when I want it in there is just dumb. Aoshi himself said you got no complaints about the video from BB. "I don't want you to do it" isn't a justification for a ban.
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#108
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Stinson_OutsciriosIt seems you are drunk with power, FuhrerI know Americans aren't that great with countryflags, so I will have you know that Aoshi is from Belgium, not Germany ;-)

I didn't know Europeans thought you could only call Germans autocrats.
You do realize you can compare non Germans to dictators, yes?

[quote=Stinson_Out][quote=scirios]
It seems you are drunk with power, Fuhrer[/quote]
I know Americans aren't that great with countryflags, so I will have you know that Aoshi is from Belgium, not Germany ;-)
[/quote]
I didn't know Europeans thought you could only call Germans autocrats.
You do realize you can compare non Germans to dictators, yes?
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#109
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https://i.imgur.com/5uQrBnh.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/5uQrBnh.png[/img]
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#110
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DCSthe latest episode of their favourite anime... :P

guys i found the problem

[quote=DCS]the latest episode of their favourite anime... :P[/quote]
guys i found the problem
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