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wait does this mean theres another tf2 youtuber because that would be pretty cool
wait does this mean theres another tf2 youtuber because that would be pretty cool
He likes the tf2 community because this game is so starved for attention that people kiss his ass just for being "famous" and trying out tf2
I have nothing against the guy (I didn't even know he existed before someone posted about him here) and I'm not saying that we're normally the most toxic community on the planet or some shit, but his experience is very very far from the average
I have nothing against the guy (I didn't even know he existed before someone posted about him here) and I'm not saying that we're normally the most toxic community on the planet or some shit, but his experience is very very far from the average
SentinelHe likes the tf2 community because this game is so starved for attention that people kiss his ass just for being "famous" and trying out tf2
I have nothing against the guy (I didn't even know he existed before someone posted about him here) and I'm not saying that we're normally the most toxic community on the planet or some shit, but his experience is very very far from the average
you're pretty much right but I wouldn't go as far as to say people went out of their way to show him a "fake face"... just restraining themselves would be a better way to word it imo
I have nothing against the guy (I didn't even know he existed before someone posted about him here) and I'm not saying that we're normally the most toxic community on the planet or some shit, but his experience is very very far from the average[/quote]
you're pretty much right but I wouldn't go as far as to say people went out of their way to show him a "fake face"... just restraining themselves would be a better way to word it imo
SentinelHe likes the tf2 community because this game is so starved for attention that people kiss his ass just for being "famous" and trying out tf2
I have nothing against the guy (I didn't even know he existed before someone posted about him here) and I'm not saying that we're normally the most toxic community on the planet or some shit, but his experience is very very far from the average
his experience was definitely special but even disregarding that, i think hes right. as far as pubs go its way more relaxed than any other game ive seen of its size. and while comp is more toxic its not a fraction as bad as cs, overwatch, lol, dota, or anything else i can think of.
I have nothing against the guy (I didn't even know he existed before someone posted about him here) and I'm not saying that we're normally the most toxic community on the planet or some shit, but his experience is very very far from the average[/quote]
his experience was definitely special but even disregarding that, i think hes right. as far as pubs go its way more relaxed than any other game ive seen of its size. and while comp is more toxic its not a fraction as bad as cs, overwatch, lol, dota, or anything else i can think of.
he seems like a cool person maybe he'll make good competitive 6s tf2 content similar to his cs:go stuff. hopefully he isn't just here for the easy views like Sentinel said as i doubt competitive tf2 vids would get more views than cs:go.
if he really wants views he should move to Fortnite or smth
if he really wants views he should move to Fortnite or smth
He isn't going to like the community that much when he realizes that 1/3rd of the casual matches are filled with swarms of hacking bots, the majority of community servers are awful x100 cp_orange maps and the average player is statistically speaking a trader main or a trading bot. Plus, we have enough youtubers dicking around in pubs whose exposure may boost the game, but not the competitive scene at all. It's the comp players who, so starved of attention, have been reaching out for him and building up that friendly welcoming attitude.
EDIT: One must also consider his primary reason: views. If he doesn't get views he'll just go and do something else instead. To get views you need content and the content that TF2 provides is shameful in comparison to other games. Remember, this is what we're competing with: https://youtu.be/dWVFBbE_l7U
TF2 does not provide any really outstanding or dramatically original content. Sure you get a new map every now and then, but even the most professional ones that do get included in the Valve map pool aren't anything stunning anymore. The content he has to milk here are saturated, outdated and broken content, such as:
- MvM
- Mannpower (lol)
- Saxton Hale gamemode
- A child infested x100 orange server
- Jump maps
- The hacker-filled casual matchmaking experience
- The dead and pathetic competitive matchmaking experience
- Showing off cosmetics (skins, unusuals, taunts)
- The occasional holiday event
- The TF2 competitive scenes
This list looks very poor to me. The ideal strategy would be to do the proven thing and just copy all the other successful youtubers: pubbing and hoarding cosmetics.
"What about jumping?"
Look at the disaster that was Jump Academy: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0lIJMfXEmKB1Svbn6OjJNQ
They made a couple popular videos and everything else struggled to hit the thousand viewer mark.
Same thing for Jump of the Week: https://www.youtube.com/user/TF2RJweekly
Search "TF2" in youtube and one of the top videos is a video about "competitive spy" uploaded 1 week ago where (assuming by the thumbnail) some obnoxious weeb retard is going around being useless to his team as a spy main in Meat-your-Match. It got 400'000 views. 400k. In one week.
Meanwhile a masterpiece like this uploaded 8 months ago has 53k views: https://youtu.be/vqlOTEtGhQk
With numbers like these you can't expect him not to degenerate into the polar opposite of what we want.
Don't be too nice. Reel him into the competitive scene specifically and don't let go. The greatest challenge is making the competitive scene interesting enough to guarantee him views.
EDIT: One must also consider his primary reason: [b]views[/b]. If he doesn't get views he'll just go and do something else instead. To get views you need content and the content that TF2 provides is shameful in comparison to other games. Remember, [i]this[/i] is what we're competing with: https://youtu.be/dWVFBbE_l7U
TF2 does not provide any really outstanding or dramatically original content. Sure you get a new map every now and then, but even the most professional ones that do get included in the Valve map pool aren't anything stunning anymore. The content he has to milk here are saturated, outdated and broken content, such as:
[list]
[*] MvM
[*] Mannpower (lol)
[*] Saxton Hale gamemode
[*] A child infested x100 orange server
[*] Jump maps
[*] The hacker-filled casual matchmaking experience
[*] The dead and pathetic competitive matchmaking experience
[*] Showing off cosmetics (skins, unusuals, taunts)
[*] The occasional holiday event
[*] The TF2 competitive scenes
[/list]
This list looks very poor to me. The ideal strategy would be to do the proven thing and just copy all the other successful youtubers: pubbing and hoarding cosmetics.
[i]"What about jumping?"[/i]
Look at the disaster that was Jump Academy: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0lIJMfXEmKB1Svbn6OjJNQ
They made a couple popular videos and everything else struggled to hit the thousand viewer mark.
Same thing for Jump of the Week: https://www.youtube.com/user/TF2RJweekly
Search "TF2" in youtube and one of the top videos is a video about "competitive spy" uploaded 1 week ago where (assuming by the thumbnail) some obnoxious weeb retard is going around being useless to his team as a spy main in Meat-your-Match. It got 400'000 views. 400k. In one week.
Meanwhile a masterpiece like this uploaded 8 months ago has 53k views: https://youtu.be/vqlOTEtGhQk
With numbers like these you can't expect him not to degenerate into the polar opposite of what we want.
Don't be [i]too nice[/i]. Reel him into the competitive scene specifically and don't let go. The greatest challenge is making the competitive scene interesting enough to guarantee him views.
Just let the guy make videos about whatever he wants and be happy he's enjoying tf2 if he does
I guess you could just be happy with the comp scene remaining a niche mediocrity, nothing wrong with not having exposure, but I don't see the point in getting hyped over his comments then.
Fuxxbig boy essay
Constructive criticism:
- if ur encountering swarms of hackers constantly u must be playing 24/7 2fort
- any type of tf2 content is entertainging to an audience that has no experience with the game (his)
- jumping is not a marketable viewer experience why would anyone make videos on it when no one but jumper mains would watch it
- almost like clickbait content appealing to casual audience appeals to the main tf2 audience, hence more views
- just because he wants views doesn’t make him not good for the community
- compare the 1-2 people each pub that are mean to the occassional whole team in CS and were doin pretty alright in that area, even if he isnt receiving special treatment
this concludes the constructive criticism also
Edit: fucked up the second quote but letto is right
Constructive criticism:
- if ur encountering swarms of hackers constantly u must be playing 24/7 2fort
- any type of tf2 content is entertainging to an audience that has no experience with the game (his)
- jumping is not a marketable viewer experience why would anyone make videos on it when no one but jumper mains would watch it
- almost like clickbait content appealing to casual audience appeals to the main tf2 audience, hence more views
- just because he wants views doesn’t make him not good for the community
- compare the 1-2 people each pub that are mean to the occassional whole team in CS and were doin pretty alright in that area, even if he isnt receiving special treatment
this concludes the constructive criticism also
Edit: fucked up the second quote but letto is right
daybraek- compare the 1-2 people each pub that are mean to the occassional whole team in CS and were doin pretty alright in that area, even if he isnt receiving special treatment
cs has less furries, bronies, people with autism/obvious mental handicap, etc
it may come down to personal preference but id rather be shit talked over being in the same server as degenerates any day
this is also a big reason people playing tf2 have a poor opinion on it; its a game that has a self-fulfilling reputation of having many social rejects and weirdos in pubs; thus unto itself
- compare the 1-2 people each pub that are mean to the occassional whole team in CS and were doin pretty alright in that area, even if he isnt receiving special treatment
[/quote]
cs has less furries, bronies, people with autism/obvious mental handicap, etc
it may come down to personal preference but id rather be shit talked over being in the same server as degenerates any day
this is also a big reason people playing tf2 have a poor opinion on it; its a game that has a self-fulfilling reputation of having many social rejects and weirdos in pubs; thus unto itself
eddie_calderondaybraek- compare the 1-2 people each pub that are mean to the occassional whole team in CS and were doin pretty alright in that area, even if he isnt receiving special treatmentcs has less furries, bronies, people with autism/obvious mental handicap, etc
it may come down to personal preference but id rather be shit talked over being in the same server as degenerates any day
this is also a big reason people playing tf2 have a poor opinion on it; its a game that has a self-fulfilling reputation of having many social rejects and weirdos in pubs; thus unto itself
Idk if you're memeing or just a massive tool
- compare the 1-2 people each pub that are mean to the occassional whole team in CS and were doin pretty alright in that area, even if he isnt receiving special treatment
[/quote]
cs has less furries, bronies, people with autism/obvious mental handicap, etc
it may come down to personal preference but id rather be shit talked over being in the same server as degenerates any day
this is also a big reason people playing tf2 have a poor opinion on it; its a game that has a self-fulfilling reputation of having many social rejects and weirdos in pubs; thus unto itself[/quote]
Idk if you're memeing or just a massive tool
eddie_calderonpeople with autism/obvious mental handicap, etc
:thonking:
:thonking:
eddie_calderoncs has less furries, bronies, people with autism/obvious mental handicap, etc
https://i.imgur.com/N48fKdf.png
what the yikes
cs has less furries, bronies, people with autism/obvious mental handicap, etc[/quote]
https://i.imgur.com/N48fKdf.png
what the yikes
this game definitely does have a higher than normal population of undesirables, even if it does have less "mean" people
eddie_calderondaybraek- compare the 1-2 people each pub that are mean to the occassional whole team in CS and were doin pretty alright in that area, even if he isnt receiving special treatmentcs has less furries, bronies, people with autism/obvious mental handicap, etc
it may come down to personal preference but id rather be shit talked over being in the same server as degenerates any day
this is also a big reason people playing tf2 have a poor opinion on it; its a game that has a self-fulfilling reputation of having many social rejects and weirdos in pubs; thus unto itself
this is the second time you've called furries social rejects/mentally handicapped in the last 3 weeks. i really don't see a reason to consistently attack groups of people who've almost certainly done nothing wrong to you. live and let live.
- compare the 1-2 people each pub that are mean to the occassional whole team in CS and were doin pretty alright in that area, even if he isnt receiving special treatment
[/quote]
cs has less furries, bronies, people with autism/obvious mental handicap, etc
it may come down to personal preference but id rather be shit talked over being in the same server as degenerates any day
this is also a big reason people playing tf2 have a poor opinion on it; its a game that has a self-fulfilling reputation of having many social rejects and weirdos in pubs; thus unto itself[/quote]
this is the second time you've called furries social rejects/mentally handicapped in the last 3 weeks. i really don't see a reason to consistently attack groups of people who've almost certainly done nothing wrong to you. live and let live.
bLapeople who've almost certainly done nothing wrong to you.
The furries are Far from innocent. Have you forgotten so quickly?
The furries are Far from innocent. Have you forgotten so quickly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTQqBjVr2F4
bLathis is the second time you've called furries social rejects/mentally handicapped in the last 3 weeks. i really don't see a reason to consistently attack groups of people who've almost certainly done nothing wrong to you. live and let live.
being a furry and/or brony is not something you should be in advocacy of. "live and let live" - what is this, a john green book club?
being a furry and/or brony is not something you should be in advocacy of. "live and let live" - what is this, a john green book club?
bLathis is the second time you've called furries social rejects/mentally handicapped in the last 3 weeks. i really don't see a reason to consistently attack groups of people who've almost certainly done nothing wrong to you. live and let live.
I'd consider wanting to have sex with anthropomorphic animals enough reason to group someone in with the "social reject/mentally handicapped" category.
this is the second time you've called furries social rejects/mentally handicapped in the last 3 weeks. i really don't see a reason to consistently attack groups of people who've almost certainly done nothing wrong to you. live and let live.[/quote]
I'd consider wanting to have sex with anthropomorphic animals enough reason to group someone in with the "social reject/mentally handicapped" category.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEO7OtmE1x8
I think it's great that the WarOwl is branching out to us, but I just hope he doesn't get too overwhelmed, not by us necessarily, but by the general tf2 community which has a history of doing so.
And don't expect anything so incredible to come from this, just take the slice of cake and enjoy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEO7OtmE1x8 [/spoiler]
I think it's great that the WarOwl is branching out to us, but I just hope he doesn't get too overwhelmed, not by us necessarily, but by the general tf2 community which has a history of doing so.
And don't expect anything so incredible to come from this, just take the slice of cake and enjoy it.
morwannegbLathis is the second time you've called furries social rejects/mentally handicapped in the last 3 weeks. i really don't see a reason to consistently attack groups of people who've almost certainly done nothing wrong to you. live and let live.wanting to have sex with anthropomorphic animals
that's not what furry means, at least among furry's
this is the second time you've called furries social rejects/mentally handicapped in the last 3 weeks. i really don't see a reason to consistently attack groups of people who've almost certainly done nothing wrong to you. live and let live.[/quote]
wanting to have sex with anthropomorphic animals[/quote]
that's not what furry means, at least among furry's
rotidderbLathis is the second time you've called furries social rejects/mentally handicapped in the last 3 weeks. i really don't see a reason to consistently attack groups of people who've almost certainly done nothing wrong to you. live and let live.being a furry and/or brony is not something you should be in advocacy of. "live and let live" - what is this, a john green book club?
i'm not in advocacy of being a furry. i'm just saying, leave someone alone if they like what you don't like. it's the easiest thing in the world.
morwannegI'd consider wanting to have sex with anthropomorphic animals enough reason to group someone in with the "social reject/mentally handicapped" category.
furry is more of a fandom than a fetish
being a furry and/or brony is not something you should be in advocacy of. "live and let live" - what is this, a john green book club?[/quote]
i'm not in advocacy of being a furry. i'm just saying, leave someone alone if they like what you don't like. it's the easiest thing in the world.
[quote=morwanneg]
I'd consider wanting to have sex with anthropomorphic animals enough reason to group someone in with the "social reject/mentally handicapped" category.[/quote]
furry is more of a fandom than a fetish
how did this become a discussion about furrys?
Warowl is cool. Used to watch him back when i was into csgo for a while. Would be neat with some more exposure if he wants to do anything with facit but seeing as there's the learning curve I doubt he'll enjoy it at first.
Warowl is cool. Used to watch him back when i was into csgo for a while. Would be neat with some more exposure if he wants to do anything with facit but seeing as there's the learning curve I doubt he'll enjoy it at first.