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Valve announces details for matchmaking beta expansion
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#61
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ShpeeismeThe mobile authenticator thing is really just outrageous. So I need to buy myself an android phone (or download an android emulator). And then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?

I'm probably just wrong. There's no way any company would do something this stupid.

You don't need internet to get the code from the mobile Steam app

[quote=Shpeeisme]The mobile authenticator thing is really just outrageous. So I need to buy myself an android phone (or download an android emulator). And then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?

I'm probably just wrong. There's no way any company would do something this stupid.[/quote]

You don't need internet to get the code from the mobile Steam app
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#62
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AntaresShpeeismeThe mobile authenticator thing is really just outrageous. So I need to buy myself an android phone (or download an android emulator). And then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?

I'm probably just wrong. There's no way any company would do something this stupid.

pretty sure people who don't own a smart phone of some caliber these days are in the minority.. too fucking bad

comp community is in the minority

[quote=Antares][quote=Shpeeisme]The mobile authenticator thing is really just outrageous. So I need to buy myself an android phone (or download an android emulator). And then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?

I'm probably just wrong. There's no way any company would do something this stupid.[/quote]

pretty sure people who don't own a smart phone of some caliber these days are in the minority.. too fucking bad[/quote]

comp community is in the minority
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#63
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ShpeeismeAnd then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?

If you check "Remember Me" when logging in, you don't have to do the mobile guard code thing again til you change accounts or deliberately sign out of the steam client.

[quote=Shpeeisme]And then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?[/quote]

If you check "Remember Me" when logging in, you don't have to do the mobile guard code thing again til you change accounts or deliberately sign out of the steam client.
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#64
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Vegan_Meathttp://i.imgur.com/BnvKX0T.pngpanda106http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.pngdeetrhttp://puu.sh/nd62q/6dc623e2f3.pngIntellectualhttp://puu.sh/ndfig.png

anyone who thinks matchmaking will work with this kind of people playing it are kidding themselves...

[quote=Vegan_Meat]http://i.imgur.com/BnvKX0T.png[/quote]

[quote=panda106][img]http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.png[/img][/quote]

[quote=deetr][img]http://puu.sh/nd62q/6dc623e2f3.png[/img][/quote]

[quote=Intellectual][img]http://puu.sh/ndfig.png[/img][/quote]

anyone who thinks matchmaking will work with this kind of people playing it are kidding themselves...
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#65
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coIeVegan_Meathttp://i.imgur.com/BnvKX0T.pngpanda106http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.pngdeetrhttp://puu.sh/nd62q/6dc623e2f3.pngIntellectualhttp://puu.sh/ndfig.png
anyone who thinks matchmaking will work with this kind of people playing it are kidding themselves...

csgo has silvers for a reason, tf2 won't be any different

[quote=coIe][quote=Vegan_Meat]http://i.imgur.com/BnvKX0T.png[/quote]

[quote=panda106][img]http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.png[/img][/quote]

[quote=deetr][img]http://puu.sh/nd62q/6dc623e2f3.png[/img][/quote]

[quote=Intellectual][img]http://puu.sh/ndfig.png[/img][/quote]

anyone who thinks matchmaking will work with this kind of people playing it are kidding themselves...[/quote]

csgo has silvers for a reason, tf2 won't be any different
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#66
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SelenticcoIeVegan_Meathttp://i.imgur.com/BnvKX0T.pngpanda106http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.pngdeetrhttp://puu.sh/nd62q/6dc623e2f3.pngIntellectualhttp://puu.sh/ndfig.png
anyone who thinks matchmaking will work with this kind of people playing it are kidding themselves...

csgo has silvers for a reason, tf2 won't be any different

actually it will because if you have a bad player on a cs team its still doable, if you have a dumbass playing med on your team, youre basically fucked

[quote=Selentic][quote=coIe][quote=Vegan_Meat]http://i.imgur.com/BnvKX0T.png[/quote]

[quote=panda106][img]http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.png[/img][/quote]

[quote=deetr][img]http://puu.sh/nd62q/6dc623e2f3.png[/img][/quote]

[quote=Intellectual][img]http://puu.sh/ndfig.png[/img][/quote]

anyone who thinks matchmaking will work with this kind of people playing it are kidding themselves...[/quote]

csgo has silvers for a reason, tf2 won't be any different[/quote]

actually it will because if you have a bad player on a cs team its still doable, if you have a dumbass playing med on your team, youre basically fucked
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#67
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mousiopeactually it will because if you have a bad player on a cs team its still doable, if you have a dumbass playing med on your team, youre basically fucked

That's why there is an elo system, if you aren't in the same level as the "silver" guys, you won't play with them.

[quote=mousiope]actually it will because if you have a bad player on a cs team its still doable, if you have a dumbass playing med on your team, youre basically fucked[/quote]
That's why there is an elo system, if you aren't in the same level as the "silver" guys, you won't play with them.
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#68
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you cant compare the cs matchmaking to tf2, you can get carried by 1 player in lower elo matches, that doesnt happen/exist in tf2 its all im saying

you cant compare the cs matchmaking to tf2, you can get carried by 1 player in lower elo matches, that doesnt happen/exist in tf2 its all im saying
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#69
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mousiopeactually it will because if you have a bad player on a cs team its still doable, if you have a dumbass playing med on your team, youre basically fucked

then you play med instead, theres no class limits

[quote=mousiope]
actually it will because if you have a bad player on a cs team its still doable, if you have a dumbass playing med on your team, youre basically fucked[/quote]
then you play med instead, theres no class limits
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#70
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i'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well

i'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well
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#71
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Turini'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well

when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...

[quote=Turin]i'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well[/quote]

when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...
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#72
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P sure lower level teams have been carried by 1 person before lol
For example, several of the teams TicTack was on

P sure lower level teams have been carried by 1 person before lol
For example, several of the teams TicTack was on
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#73
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this argument is retarded if you don't think you can roll pubbers you are shit

this argument is retarded if you don't think you can roll pubbers you are shit
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#74
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mousiopeyou cant compare the cs matchmaking to tf2, you can get carried by 1 player in lower elo matches, that doesnt happen/exist in tf2 its all im saying

getting carried by better players happens ALL The time in tf2
its a DM game how can u say u cant

[quote=mousiope]you cant compare the cs matchmaking to tf2, you can get carried by 1 player in lower elo matches, that doesnt happen/exist in tf2 its all im saying[/quote]

getting carried by better players happens ALL The time in tf2
its a DM game how can u say u cant
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#75
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mousiopeTurini'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well
when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...

well if we are talking about actual tf2 thats not full of retards, why is your hypothetical medic a retard?

[quote=mousiope][quote=Turin]i'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well[/quote]

when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...[/quote]
well if we are talking about actual tf2 thats not full of retards, why is your hypothetical medic a retard?
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#76
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mousiopeyou cant compare the cs matchmaking to tf2, you can get carried by 1 player in lower elo matches, that doesnt happen/exist in tf2 its all im sayingmousiopeTurini'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well
when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...

to name a few
ranga:
https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=4945453
https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=4826907
delpo: https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=6122717
slemnish: https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=4709859
omar: https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=5330535

[quote=mousiope]you cant compare the cs matchmaking to tf2, you can get carried by 1 player in lower elo matches, that doesnt happen/exist in tf2 its all im saying[/quote]

[quote=mousiope][quote=Turin]i'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well[/quote]

when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...[/quote]
to name a few
ranga:
[url=https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=4945453]https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=4945453[/url]
[url=https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=4826907]https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=4826907[/url]
delpo: [url=https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=6122717]https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=6122717[/url]
slemnish: [url=https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=4709859]https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=4709859[/url]
omar: [url=https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=5330535]https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=5330535[/url]
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#77
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botmodeFor example, several of the teams TicTack was on

50% healspread, 8 second ubers, 5 ping and the ability to single handedly dominate any non top 10 team

[quote=botmode]
For example, several of the teams TicTack was on[/quote]

50% healspread, 8 second ubers, 5 ping and the ability to single handedly dominate any non top 10 team
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#78
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mbotmodeFor example, several of the teams TicTack was on
50% healspread, 8 second ubers, 5 ping and the ability to single handedly dominate any non top 10 team

pretty sure there was a log from a little while ago where he got 67% heals from saam

[quote=m][quote=botmode]
For example, several of the teams TicTack was on[/quote]

50% healspread, 8 second ubers, 5 ping and the ability to single handedly dominate any non top 10 team[/quote]
pretty sure there was a log from a little while ago where he got 67% heals from saam
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#79
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BumFreezemousiopeTurini'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well
when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...
well if we are talking about actual tf2 thats not full of retards, why is your hypothetical medic a retard?

you can be prem/invite but if you decide to play/act like a retard you can ruin the game for everyone else
example: full time snipers or if the dude you got randomly matched with playing med decides hes a fragging class cause hes having a bad day ..

[quote=BumFreeze][quote=mousiope][quote=Turin]i'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well[/quote]

when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...[/quote]
well if we are talking about actual tf2 thats not full of retards, why is your hypothetical medic a retard?[/quote]


you can be prem/invite but if you decide to play/act like a retard you can ruin the game for everyone else
example: full time snipers or if the dude you got randomly matched with playing med decides hes a fragging class cause hes having a bad day ..
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#80
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mousiopeBumFreezemousiopeTurini'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well
when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...
well if we are talking about actual tf2 thats not full of retards, why is your hypothetical medic a retard?

you can be prem/invite but if you decide to play/act like a retard you can ruin the game for everyone else
example: full time snipers or if the dude you got randomly matched with playing med decides hes a fragging class cause hes having a bad day ..

How is this different from any other game? You can do much worse things in a game like Dota 2.

[quote=mousiope][quote=BumFreeze][quote=mousiope][quote=Turin]i'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well[/quote]

when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...[/quote]
well if we are talking about actual tf2 thats not full of retards, why is your hypothetical medic a retard?[/quote]


you can be prem/invite but if you decide to play/act like a retard you can ruin the game for everyone else
example: full time snipers or if the dude you got randomly matched with playing med decides hes a fragging class cause hes having a bad day ..[/quote]

How is this different from any other game? You can do much worse things in a game like Dota 2.
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#81
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So when they will give out the beta passes dx9 will be optimized right?

So when they will give out the beta passes dx9 will be optimized right?
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#82
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Another way to keep smurfs from "wasting" beta slots is to use a better heuristic for smurfs. People can have multiple phones, easily. But they wouldn't spend hundreds of dollars on multiple accounts. If they also prioritized people who have a lot of value in their steam account, it would still work. In fact, that's probably what they would have thought of if they didn't have two factor authentication.

Another way to keep smurfs from "wasting" beta slots is to use a better heuristic for smurfs. People can have multiple phones, easily. But they wouldn't spend hundreds of dollars on multiple accounts. If they also prioritized people who have a lot of value in their steam account, it would still work. In fact, that's probably what they would have thought of if they didn't have two factor authentication.
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#83
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wareyaAnother way to keep smurfs from "wasting" beta slots is to use a better heuristic for smurfs. People can have multiple phones, easily. But they wouldn't spend hundreds of dollars on multiple accounts. If they also prioritized people who have a lot of value in their steam account, it would still work. In fact, that's probably what they would have thought of if they didn't have two factor authentication.

Prioritizing people based on their economic status.... this is very american I like this.

[quote=wareya]Another way to keep smurfs from "wasting" beta slots is to use a better heuristic for smurfs. People can have multiple phones, easily. But they wouldn't spend hundreds of dollars on multiple accounts. If they also prioritized people who have a lot of value in their steam account, it would still work. In fact, that's probably what they would have thought of if they didn't have two factor authentication.[/quote]

Prioritizing people based on their economic status.... this is very american I like this.
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#84
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Prioritizing people with smartphones is also prioritizing people with economic status, if not doing it worse, because again, well-off people can easily have multiple phones.

Prioritizing people with smartphones is also prioritizing people with economic status, if not doing it worse, because again, well-off people can easily have multiple phones.
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#85
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mousiopeBumFreezemousiopeTurini'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well
when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...
well if we are talking about actual tf2 thats not full of retards, why is your hypothetical medic a retard?

you can be prem/invite but if you decide to play/act like a retard you can ruin the game for everyone else
example: full time snipers or if the dude you got randomly matched with playing med decides hes a fragging class cause hes having a bad day ..

I agree with you that a single player can definitely anchor a team super hard, but that's not to say that the rest of the team can't step up their game and carry said player.
Trust me I've had quite a bit of experience with this (see: NeonCharmander, CondescendingCandlestick, spello playing on a netbook)

[quote=mousiope][quote=BumFreeze][quote=mousiope][quote=Turin]i'm pretty sure carrying lower caliber teammates is possible in tf2 as well[/quote]

when i say tf2 im talking about actual tf2 not tf2centers, div6 or open ...[/quote]
well if we are talking about actual tf2 thats not full of retards, why is your hypothetical medic a retard?[/quote]


you can be prem/invite but if you decide to play/act like a retard you can ruin the game for everyone else
example: full time snipers or if the dude you got randomly matched with playing med decides hes a fragging class cause hes having a bad day ..[/quote]
I agree with you that a single player can definitely anchor a team super hard, but that's not to say that the rest of the team can't step up their game and carry said player.
Trust me I've had quite a bit of experience with this (see: NeonCharmander, CondescendingCandlestick, spello playing on a netbook)
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#86
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wareyaPrioritizing people with smartphones is also prioritizing people with economic status, if not doing it worse, because again, well-off people can easily have multiple phones.

#occupysmartphoneusers

no but how would having multiple phones help really in getting access

[quote=wareya]Prioritizing people with smartphones is also prioritizing people with economic status, if not doing it worse, because again, well-off people can easily have multiple phones.[/quote]

#occupysmartphoneusers

no but how would having multiple phones help really in getting access
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#87
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Authenticate your smurfs, more likely to get access on at least one account. That's the whole point of this system.

Authenticate your smurfs, more likely to get access on at least one account. That's the whole point of this system.
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#88
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I can get a cheap smart phone for 40 NZD (about 25 USD). In fact the feature phone that this provider sells is the same price. Is a smartphone a luxury item at this point?

I can get a cheap smart phone for 40 NZD (about 25 USD). In fact the feature phone that this provider sells is the same price. Is a smartphone a luxury item at this point?
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#89
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Have either purchased a copy of Team Fortress 2 prior to June 23, 2011, or have made a purchase from the Mann Co. Store. (AKA premium accounts)

Honestly, if they had gotten rid of the purchase from the store clause, then this would have been enough really without the need for mobile authentication, but that wouldn't be enough players. They could've made it for people who purchased TF2 or made a purchase from the store prior to 2012 at the most, one year after F2P. But it is a shame that they had to put up that mobile requirement, it's a bit unnecessary. Just making it where you can only have 1 phone number associated with the account is enough. Unless people with alts are crazy enough to use their family's phone numbers...

[quote]Have either purchased a copy of Team Fortress 2 prior to June 23, 2011, or have made a purchase from the Mann Co. Store. (AKA premium accounts)[/quote]
Honestly, if they had gotten rid of the purchase from the store clause, then this would have been enough really without the need for mobile authentication, but that wouldn't be enough players. They could've made it for people who purchased TF2 or made a purchase from the store prior to 2012 at the most, one year after F2P. But it is a shame that they had to put up that mobile requirement, it's a bit unnecessary. Just making it where you can only have 1 phone number associated with the account is enough. Unless people with alts are crazy enough to use their family's phone numbers...
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AndKennethI can get a cheap smart phone for 40 NZD (about 25 USD). In fact the feature phone that this provider sells is the same price. Is a smartphone a luxury item at this point?

So what you're saying is, people with a bunch of alts and cheap phones have an advantage in getting in over people with only one account and phone?

[quote=AndKenneth]I can get a cheap smart phone for 40 NZD (about 25 USD). In fact the feature phone that this provider sells is the same price. Is a smartphone a luxury item at this point?[/quote]
So what you're saying is, people with a bunch of alts and cheap phones have an advantage in getting in over people with only one account and phone?
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