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Valve announces details for matchmaking beta expansion
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#31
RGL.gg
21 Frags +

Oh boy I cant wait to get into the beta, Im sure Ill get in it the same time I got in the Overwatch Beta!

Oh boy I cant wait to get into the beta, Im sure Ill get in it the same time I got in the Overwatch Beta!
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#32
marketplace.tf
6 Frags +
nykGeel9nykhoXyynykAlso, valve has just fucked me over with this mobile authenticatior thing because I still use this
http://cdn.shopclues.net/images/detailed/26184/833120728150567578233586images5137905128414328619601439196005_1444891081.jpg

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/3ug38r/introducing_the_steam_desktop_authenticator_beta/
I still don't trust that site not to lose my items

it's not a site, mate.
It's a thing
And it's an insecure thing
Unlike scrap.tf but oH w3ll

yes it's inherently insecure because if you get a keylogger you're fucked, but the alternative is being unable to trade at all so if that's what you're interested in you really have absolutely no choice because Valve.

[quote=nyk][quote=Geel9][quote=nyk][quote=hoXyy][quote=nyk]Also, valve has just fucked me over with this mobile authenticatior thing because I still use this
http://cdn.shopclues.net/images/detailed/26184/833120728150567578233586images5137905128414328619601439196005_1444891081.jpg[/quote]

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/3ug38r/introducing_the_steam_desktop_authenticator_beta/[/quote]
I still don't trust that site not to lose my items[/quote]

it's not a site, mate.[/quote]
It's a thing
And it's an insecure thing
Unlike scrap.tf but oH w3ll[/quote]

yes it's inherently insecure because if you get a keylogger you're fucked, but the alternative is being unable to trade at all so if that's what you're interested in you really have absolutely no choice because Valve.
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#33
31 Frags +

http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.png

[img]http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.png[/img]
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#34
32 Frags +
panda106http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.png

I don't want to play matchmaking anymore

[quote=panda106][img]http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.png[/img][/quote]

I don't want to play matchmaking anymore
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#35
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http://puu.sh/ndfig.png

[img]http://puu.sh/ndfig.png[/img]
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#36
60 Frags +

All these people posting these stupid things on the forums are probably going to get into mm beta over the majority of the people on this forum

https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/566c9fc265dbbdab32ec053b/1x

All these people posting these stupid things on the forums are probably going to get into mm beta over the majority of the people on this forum [img]https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/566c9fc265dbbdab32ec053b/1x[/img]
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#37
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Balance Association™

Balance Association™
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#38
-1 Frags +
Geel9nykGeel9nykhoXyynykAlso, valve has just fucked me over with this mobile authenticatior thing because I still use this
http://cdn.shopclues.net/images/detailed/26184/833120728150567578233586images5137905128414328619601439196005_1444891081.jpg

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/3ug38r/introducing_the_steam_desktop_authenticator_beta/
I still don't trust that site not to lose my items

it's not a site, mate.
It's a thing
And it's an insecure thing
Unlike scrap.tf but oH w3ll

yes it's inherently insecure because if you get a keylogger you're fucked, but the alternative is being unable to trade at all so if that's what you're interested in you really have absolutely no choice because Valve.
Geel9because Valve

http://store.steampowered.com/news/19618/

[quote=Geel9][quote=nyk][quote=Geel9][quote=nyk][quote=hoXyy][quote=nyk]Also, valve has just fucked me over with this mobile authenticatior thing because I still use this
http://cdn.shopclues.net/images/detailed/26184/833120728150567578233586images5137905128414328619601439196005_1444891081.jpg[/quote]

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/3ug38r/introducing_the_steam_desktop_authenticator_beta/[/quote]
I still don't trust that site not to lose my items[/quote]

it's not a site, mate.[/quote]
It's a thing
And it's an insecure thing
Unlike scrap.tf but oH w3ll[/quote]

yes it's inherently insecure because if you get a keylogger you're fucked, but the alternative is being unable to trade at all so if that's what you're interested in you really have absolutely no choice because Valve.[/quote]

[quote=Geel9]because Valve[/quote]

http://store.steampowered.com/news/19618/
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#39
Twitch Prime
0 Frags +
flufnHonestly I'm the most excited about the attention this will give tf2. I think pugging will still be more fun.

It will end be the quickest solution, but also the one with the least control over what you will play with, while external site are most likely still going to be there for more serious comp quickplay with much more control over what will happen for the cost of more time spent on each game

[quote=flufn]Honestly I'm the most excited about the attention this will give tf2. I think pugging will still be more fun.[/quote]
It will end be the quickest solution, but also the one with the least control over what you will play with, while external site are most likely still going to be there for more serious comp quickplay with much more control over what will happen for the cost of more time spent on each game
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#40
marketplace.tf
3 Frags +
pazerGeel9nykGeel9nykhoXyynykAlso, valve has just fucked me over with this mobile authenticatior thing because I still use this
http://cdn.shopclues.net/images/detailed/26184/833120728150567578233586images5137905128414328619601439196005_1444891081.jpg

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/3ug38r/introducing_the_steam_desktop_authenticator_beta/
I still don't trust that site not to lose my items

it's not a site, mate.
It's a thing
And it's an insecure thing
Unlike scrap.tf but oH w3ll

yes it's inherently insecure because if you get a keylogger you're fucked, but the alternative is being unable to trade at all so if that's what you're interested in you really have absolutely no choice because Valve.
Geel9because Valve
http://store.steampowered.com/news/19618/

yes I am aware of their reasoning

[quote=pazer][quote=Geel9][quote=nyk][quote=Geel9][quote=nyk][quote=hoXyy][quote=nyk]Also, valve has just fucked me over with this mobile authenticatior thing because I still use this
http://cdn.shopclues.net/images/detailed/26184/833120728150567578233586images5137905128414328619601439196005_1444891081.jpg[/quote]

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/3ug38r/introducing_the_steam_desktop_authenticator_beta/[/quote]
I still don't trust that site not to lose my items[/quote]

it's not a site, mate.[/quote]
It's a thing
And it's an insecure thing
Unlike scrap.tf but oH w3ll[/quote]

yes it's inherently insecure because if you get a keylogger you're fucked, but the alternative is being unable to trade at all so if that's what you're interested in you really have absolutely no choice because Valve.[/quote]

[quote=Geel9]because Valve[/quote]

http://store.steampowered.com/news/19618/[/quote]

yes I am aware of their reasoning
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#41
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botmodeclckwrkdeetrhttp://puu.sh/nd62q/6dc623e2f3.png
lol weird because that's one of the only times the heavy is at his strongest but tbh heavy with a much smaller cone and less damage per bullet would be pretty cool
that would actually be a pretty cool change
have to aim which rewards skill
woah what a cool concept

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Tomislav

[quote=botmode][quote=clckwrk][quote=deetr][img]http://puu.sh/nd62q/6dc623e2f3.png[/img][/quote]

lol weird because that's one of the only times the heavy is at his strongest but tbh heavy with a much smaller cone and less damage per bullet would be pretty cool[/quote]
that would actually be a pretty cool change
have to aim which rewards skill
woah what a cool concept[/quote] https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Tomislav
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#42
0 Frags +
panda106http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.png

M O S T I M P O R T A N T F I X

[quote=panda106][img]http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.png[/img][/quote]
M O S T I M P O R T A N T F I X
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#43
TF2Pickup
2 Frags +
deetrAll these people posting these stupid things on the forums are probably going to get into mm beta over the majority of the people on this forum https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/566c9fc265dbbdab32ec053b/1x

+1 Kappa :<

It will be really dumb from the VALVe side if they decide to put like..really.. random players into the MM. Players who have never ever played a 6s or HL match. Moreover, you can imagine what stupid feedback these 'new' comp players will send...

[quote=deetr]All these people posting these stupid things on the forums are probably going to get into mm beta over the majority of the people on this forum [img]https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/566c9fc265dbbdab32ec053b/1x[/img][/quote]

+1 Kappa :<

It will be really dumb from the VALVe side if they decide to put like..really.. random players into the MM. Players who have never ever played a 6s or HL match. Moreover, you can imagine what stupid feedback these 'new' comp players will send...
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#44
15 Frags +
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#45
3 Frags +

It's reasonable that valve want to get a wide assortment of players into this matchmaking beta, not just comp players. So that guy who only plays valve pubs as engineer but has heard of competitive and could be interested in trying it is just as valuable, from the point of view of testing the system, as a prem player. They will want to see how everyone adapts and how the progression system works with a wide array of skill levels - if they only wanted feedback from the best players they wouldn't even make this steam group in the first place, they'd make beta invite/prem 6s only.

As far as balance changes and meta that's a huge can of worms that I'd be really afraid to open if I were at Valve. But I assume (i.e. hope) they're still working closely with the few comp players that are in on things to analyze those issues.

It's reasonable that valve want to get a wide assortment of players into this matchmaking beta, not just comp players. So that guy who only plays valve pubs as engineer but has heard of competitive and could be interested in trying it is just as valuable, from the point of view of testing the system, as a prem player. They will want to see how everyone adapts and how the progression system works with a wide array of skill levels - if they only wanted feedback from the best players they wouldn't even make this steam group in the first place, they'd make beta invite/prem 6s only.

As far as balance changes and meta that's a huge can of worms that I'd be really afraid to open if I were at Valve. But I assume (i.e. hope) they're still working closely with the few comp players that are in on things to analyze those issues.
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#46
4 Frags +
panda106http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.png

I'll show that nerd what is up when mm is out and we run six pyros

[quote=panda106][img]http://i.imgur.com/dtnTiAy.png[/img][/quote]
I'll show that nerd what is up when mm is out and we run six pyros
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#47
13 Frags +

I think some people need to be reminded mm is to bridge the gap between pub and 6s. So if you already play 6s I don't see a point to freak out. It's all about getting attention for us. MM doesn't make us competitive it just lets outsiders see that we are.

I think some people need to be reminded mm is to bridge the gap between pub and 6s. So if you already play 6s I don't see a point to freak out. It's all about getting attention for us. MM doesn't make us competitive it just lets outsiders see that we are.
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#48
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http://i.imgur.com/BnvKX0T.png

http://i.imgur.com/BnvKX0T.png
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#49
-1 Frags +

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tfcompetitive/discussions/0/405692224227187806/

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tfcompetitive/discussions/0/405692224227187806/
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#50
14 Frags +

brb adding source 2

brb adding source 2
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#51
17 Frags +
Intellectualhttp://puu.sh/ndfig.png

alright i dont normally advocate violence over words on the internet but this is too far

[quote=Intellectual][img]http://puu.sh/ndfig.png[/img][/quote]

alright i dont normally advocate violence over words on the internet but this is too far
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#52
2 Frags +

its not all bad, the entire thread is op getting btfo'd by people who are better than him

its not all bad, the entire thread is op getting btfo'd by people who are better than him
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#53
1 Frags +
Ewwhttp://steamcommunity.com/groups/tfcompetitive/discussions/0/405692224227187806/

to be fair of any of the class setups Soldier is probably the only class that you could have 7 or 8 (with medic being the remainder 1 or 2) of in a 9v9 format and still have a chance at beating a HL team. For a 6v6 format I'd like to think a balanced team would win, but if I had to pick a class that could win while being over populated I'd slightly lean towards soldier with scout not being that far behind.

[quote=Eww]http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tfcompetitive/discussions/0/405692224227187806/[/quote]

to be fair of any of the class setups Soldier is probably the only class that you could have 7 or 8 (with medic being the remainder 1 or 2) of in a 9v9 format and still have a chance at beating a HL team. For a 6v6 format I'd like to think a balanced team would win, but if I had to pick a class that could win while being over populated I'd slightly lean towards soldier with scout not being that far behind.
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#54
-1 Frags +
nykAlso, valve has just fucked me over with this mobile authenticatior thing because I still use this
http://cdn.shopclues.net/images/detailed/26184/833120728150567578233586images5137905128414328619601439196005_1444891081.jpg

https://github.com/Jessecar96/SteamDesktopAuthenticator

[quote=nyk]Also, valve has just fucked me over with this mobile authenticatior thing because I still use this
http://cdn.shopclues.net/images/detailed/26184/833120728150567578233586images5137905128414328619601439196005_1444891081.jpg[/quote]

https://github.com/Jessecar96/SteamDesktopAuthenticator
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#55
9 Frags +

Okay before this even happens. Can a CERTAIN SOMEONE give my team our beta keys. You've been dodging it for too long.

Okay before this even happens. Can a CERTAIN SOMEONE give my team our beta keys. You've been dodging it for too long.
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#56
-4 Frags +
aim-Okay before this even happens. Can a CERTAIN SOMEONE give my team our beta keys. You've been dodging it for too long.

aren't the keys just for invite teams

[quote=aim-]Okay before this even happens. Can a CERTAIN SOMEONE give my team our beta keys. You've been dodging it for too long.[/quote]

aren't the keys just for invite teams
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#57
-6 Frags +

The mobile authenticator thing is really just outrageous. So I need to buy myself an android phone (or download an android emulator). And then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?

I'm probably just wrong. There's no way any company would do something this stupid.

The mobile authenticator thing is really just outrageous. So I need to buy myself an android phone (or download an android emulator). And then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?

I'm probably just wrong. There's no way any company would do something this stupid.
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#58
8 Frags +
Pendaaim-Okay before this even happens. Can a CERTAIN SOMEONE give my team our beta keys. You've been dodging it for too long.
aren't the keys just for invite teams

https://play.esea.net/teams/92727

[quote=Penda][quote=aim-]Okay before this even happens. Can a CERTAIN SOMEONE give my team our beta keys. You've been dodging it for too long.[/quote]

aren't the keys just for invite teams[/quote]
https://play.esea.net/teams/92727
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#59
-8 Frags +
ShpeeismeThe mobile authenticator thing is really just outrageous. So I need to buy myself an android phone (or download an android emulator). And then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?

I'm probably just wrong. There's no way any company would do something this stupid.

pretty sure people who don't own a smart phone of some caliber these days are in the minority.. too fucking bad

[quote=Shpeeisme]The mobile authenticator thing is really just outrageous. So I need to buy myself an android phone (or download an android emulator). And then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?

I'm probably just wrong. There's no way any company would do something this stupid.[/quote]

pretty sure people who don't own a smart phone of some caliber these days are in the minority.. too fucking bad
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#60
4 Frags +
AntaresShpeeismeThe mobile authenticator thing is really just outrageous. So I need to buy myself an android phone (or download an android emulator). And then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?

I'm probably just wrong. There's no way any company would do something this stupid.

pretty sure people who don't own a smart phone of some caliber these days are in the minority.. too fucking bad

just because they're in the minority doesn't mean they should be ignored?

e: (not that i dont think its a decent deterrent to keep smurfs out if its implemented in the final system and a way to keep people from making alts to get a better chance at beta passes, but if it's like this for actual mm release, issues will probably arise)

[quote=Antares][quote=Shpeeisme]The mobile authenticator thing is really just outrageous. So I need to buy myself an android phone (or download an android emulator). And then every time I want to log on to steam, my phone has to be connected to internet and I have to access the app to look at a code?

I'm probably just wrong. There's no way any company would do something this stupid.[/quote]

pretty sure people who don't own a smart phone of some caliber these days are in the minority.. too fucking bad[/quote]

just because they're in the minority doesn't mean they should be ignored?

e: (not that i dont think its a decent deterrent to keep smurfs out if its implemented in the final system and a way to keep people from making alts to get a better chance at beta passes, but if it's like this for actual mm release, issues will probably arise)
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