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North Korea fucks up again
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#1
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"Earlier, Pyongyang said it had a right to carry out a pre-emptive nuclear strike and was pulling out of the armistice that ended the Korean War." Also they want to nuke the U.S.

What is going on

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21709917

"Earlier, Pyongyang said it had a right to carry out a pre-emptive nuclear strike and was pulling out of the armistice that ended the Korean War." Also they want to nuke the U.S.

What is going on

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21709917
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#2
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This sort of posturing has happened many times before from DPRK, but the erratic behavior of that regime since KJI died seems to indicate a pretty serious power struggle between KJU and the military leadership.

That said, nobody outside of Seoul has anything to worry about; the v-2s that DPRK has with nuclear tips wouldn't make it anywhere near North America. A strike by Pyongyang would be met with swift force from every country including China.

This will blow over, especially since China (the guys pulling the strings in DPRK) is currently very interested in preserving the status quo.

This sort of posturing has happened many times before from DPRK, but the erratic behavior of that regime since KJI died seems to indicate a pretty serious power struggle between KJU and the military leadership.

That said, nobody outside of Seoul has anything to worry about; the v-2s that DPRK has with nuclear tips wouldn't make it anywhere near North America. A strike by Pyongyang would be met with swift force from every country including China.

This will blow over, especially since China (the guys pulling the strings in DPRK) is currently very interested in preserving the status quo.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3tGamvK8ho

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3tGamvK8ho[/youtube]
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#4
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http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/025/0/e/little_man_syndrome_by_jollyjack-d5sno37.jpg

[img]http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/025/0/e/little_man_syndrome_by_jollyjack-d5sno37.jpg[/img]
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#5
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21650642

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21650642
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#6
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Suit made of money

Suit made of money
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#7
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"The regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un 'will perish from the Earth' if it attacks South Korea with nuclear weapons, Seoul's defense minister said Friday."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2013/03/08/Seoul-returns-North-Korean-saber-rattle/UPI-93421362763756/#ixzz2MyYFZ2Zs

China is interested in preserving the status quo and talking NK down from a ledge if they get to that point, but I think people overestimate the amount of influence China has with the NK government. China is their largest ally, but NK has resisted foreign influence over their policy, no matter the source.
That being said, the NK leadership likely isn't literally insane and I don't foresee a nuclear strike unless they feel they have no other option. For NK, maintaining a nuclear programme has important effects outside of the obvious offensive military applications. If NK didn't have any WMDs and didn't have their entire artillery aimed at Seoul, how long do you think the regime would last before the U.S. or UN destroyed it? NK's nukes are likely defensive in nature, a warning of what could happen if they're pushed too far. It's their last line of defense. Once NK uses its nukes, the regime's life expectancy will fall precipitously.
Secondly, NK's hopes of reunification rest largely on the relative power balace between NK and SK. SK has a much stronger economy, so any reunification deal cut right now would likely favour the SK leadership and leave the NK leadership in the dust. However, the NK leadership can leverage their nuclear programme to retain elements of power in any potential unified Korea.

So yeah. Not sure what I'm getting at here, but I'm sure I had a point.

"The regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un 'will perish from the Earth' if it attacks South Korea with nuclear weapons, Seoul's defense minister said Friday."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2013/03/08/Seoul-returns-North-Korean-saber-rattle/UPI-93421362763756/#ixzz2MyYFZ2Zs

China is interested in preserving the status quo and talking NK down from a ledge if they get to that point, but I think people overestimate the amount of influence China has with the NK government. China is their largest ally, but NK has resisted foreign influence over their policy, no matter the source.
That being said, the NK leadership likely isn't literally insane and I don't foresee a nuclear strike unless they feel they have no other option. For NK, maintaining a nuclear programme has important effects outside of the obvious offensive military applications. If NK didn't have any WMDs and didn't have their entire artillery aimed at Seoul, how long do you think the regime would last before the U.S. or UN destroyed it? NK's nukes are likely defensive in nature, a warning of what could happen if they're pushed too far. It's their last line of defense. Once NK uses its nukes, the regime's life expectancy will fall precipitously.
Secondly, NK's hopes of reunification rest largely on the relative power balace between NK and SK. SK has a much stronger economy, so any reunification deal cut right now would likely favour the SK leadership and leave the NK leadership in the dust. However, the NK leadership can leverage their nuclear programme to retain elements of power in any potential unified Korea.

So yeah. Not sure what I'm getting at here, but I'm sure I had a point.
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#8
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Definitely won't be any chilling in North Korea any time soon.

Definitely won't be any chilling in North Korea any time soon.
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#9
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you cannot defeat Best Korea

you cannot defeat Best Korea
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#10
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North Korea doesn't have any ICBMs, so they can't hit the US. The worst they could do would be to hit South Korea, and that would result in the immediate destruction of North Korea.

North Korea doesn't have any ICBMs, so they can't hit the US. The worst they could do would be to hit South Korea, and that would result in the immediate destruction of North Korea.
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Maple"The regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un 'will perish from the Earth' if it attacks South Korea with nuclear weapons, Seoul's defense minister said Friday."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2013/03/08/Seoul-returns-North-Korean-saber-rattle/UPI-93421362763756/#ixzz2MyYFZ2Zs

China is interested in preserving the status quo and talking NK down from a ledge if they get to that point, but I think people overestimate the amount of influence China has with the NK government. China is their largest ally, but NK has resisted foreign influence over their policy, no matter the source.
That being said, the NK leadership likely isn't literally insane and I don't foresee a nuclear strike unless they feel they have no other option. For NK, maintaining a nuclear programme has important effects outside of the obvious offensive military applications. If NK didn't have any WMDs and didn't have their entire artillery aimed at Seoul, how long do you think the regime would last before the U.S. or UN destroyed it? NK's nukes are likely defensive in nature, a warning of what could happen if they're pushed too far. It's their last line of defense. Once NK uses its nukes, the regime's life expectancy will fall precipitously.
Secondly, NK's hopes of reunification rest largely on the relative power balace between NK and SK. SK has a much stronger economy, so any reunification deal cut right now would likely favour the SK leadership and leave the NK leadership in the dust. However, the NK leadership can leverage their nuclear programme to retain elements of power in any potential unified Korea.

So yeah. Not sure what I'm getting at here, but I'm sure I had a point.

If China stopped supporting North Korea with food and rations, they would be whipped out because of a famine, so as long as the U.S. and other western nations can persuade China to control north korea, there will be no nuclear war

[quote=Maple]"The regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un 'will perish from the Earth' if it attacks South Korea with nuclear weapons, Seoul's defense minister said Friday."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2013/03/08/Seoul-returns-North-Korean-saber-rattle/UPI-93421362763756/#ixzz2MyYFZ2Zs

China is interested in preserving the status quo and talking NK down from a ledge if they get to that point, but I think people overestimate the amount of influence China has with the NK government. China is their largest ally, but NK has resisted foreign influence over their policy, no matter the source.
That being said, the NK leadership likely isn't literally insane and I don't foresee a nuclear strike unless they feel they have no other option. For NK, maintaining a nuclear programme has important effects outside of the obvious offensive military applications. If NK didn't have any WMDs and didn't have their entire artillery aimed at Seoul, how long do you think the regime would last before the U.S. or UN destroyed it? NK's nukes are likely defensive in nature, a warning of what could happen if they're pushed too far. It's their last line of defense. Once NK uses its nukes, the regime's life expectancy will fall precipitously.
Secondly, NK's hopes of reunification rest largely on the relative power balace between NK and SK. SK has a much stronger economy, so any reunification deal cut right now would likely favour the SK leadership and leave the NK leadership in the dust. However, the NK leadership can leverage their nuclear programme to retain elements of power in any potential unified Korea.

So yeah. Not sure what I'm getting at here, but I'm sure I had a point.[/quote]

If China stopped supporting North Korea with food and rations, they would be whipped out because of a famine, so as long as the U.S. and other western nations can persuade China to control north korea, there will be no nuclear war
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I also find concerning the existence of labour camps in North Korea. I listened to a radio documentary of one guy who was born in and escaped from one such concentration camp, and if half of what he says is true, it's Dachau for the 21st century. He says he viewed his parents not as caregivers but as competition for food. Pretty whack.

I also find concerning the existence of labour camps in North Korea. I listened to a radio documentary of one guy who was born in and escaped from one such concentration camp, and if half of what he says is true, it's Dachau for the 21st century. He says he viewed his parents not as caregivers but as competition for food. Pretty whack.
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"The regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un 'will perish from the Earth' if it attacks South Korea with nuclear weapons, Seoul's defense minister said Friday."

You do not fuck with South Korea. They understand strategy unlike anyone else.

[quote]"The regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un 'will perish from the Earth' if it attacks South Korea with nuclear weapons, Seoul's defense minister said Friday."[/quote]

You do not fuck with South Korea. They understand strategy unlike anyone else.
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#14
-6 Frags +

These guys need to watch War Games.

Or use the Rocket Jumper to show TF2's version of their missle system.

These guys need to watch War Games.

Or use the Rocket Jumper to show TF2's version of their missle system.
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#15
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SpyromancerDefinitely won't be any chilling in North Korea any time soon.

Uhoh.

http://i.imgur.com/PQa6sw7.jpg

[quote=Spyromancer]Definitely won't be any chilling in North Korea any time soon.[/quote]

Uhoh.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/PQa6sw7.jpg[/img]
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#16
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RIP Jerro

RIP Jerro
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#17
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visitnigMaple"The regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un 'will perish from the Earth' if it attacks South Korea with nuclear weapons, Seoul's defense minister said Friday."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2013/03/08/Seoul-returns-North-Korean-saber-rattle/UPI-93421362763756/#ixzz2MyYFZ2Zs

China is interested in preserving the status quo and talking NK down from a ledge if they get to that point, but I think people overestimate the amount of influence China has with the NK government. China is their largest ally, but NK has resisted foreign influence over their policy, no matter the source.
That being said, the NK leadership likely isn't literally insane and I don't foresee a nuclear strike unless they feel they have no other option. For NK, maintaining a nuclear programme has important effects outside of the obvious offensive military applications. If NK didn't have any WMDs and didn't have their entire artillery aimed at Seoul, how long do you think the regime would last before the U.S. or UN destroyed it? NK's nukes are likely defensive in nature, a warning of what could happen if they're pushed too far. It's their last line of defense. Once NK uses its nukes, the regime's life expectancy will fall precipitously.
Secondly, NK's hopes of reunification rest largely on the relative power balace between NK and SK. SK has a much stronger economy, so any reunification deal cut right now would likely favour the SK leadership and leave the NK leadership in the dust. However, the NK leadership can leverage their nuclear programme to retain elements of power in any potential unified Korea.

So yeah. Not sure what I'm getting at here, but I'm sure I had a point.

If China stopped supporting North Korea with food and rations, they would be whipped out because of a famine, so as long as the U.S. and other western nations can persuade China to control north korea, there will be no nuclear war

That all assumes that whoever is running the North is thinking rationally. Because if they're not they won't play by the rules everybody else is operating on, and that's what makes them especially dangerous.

[quote=visitnig][quote=Maple]"The regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un 'will perish from the Earth' if it attacks South Korea with nuclear weapons, Seoul's defense minister said Friday."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2013/03/08/Seoul-returns-North-Korean-saber-rattle/UPI-93421362763756/#ixzz2MyYFZ2Zs

China is interested in preserving the status quo and talking NK down from a ledge if they get to that point, but I think people overestimate the amount of influence China has with the NK government. China is their largest ally, but NK has resisted foreign influence over their policy, no matter the source.
That being said, the NK leadership likely isn't literally insane and I don't foresee a nuclear strike unless they feel they have no other option. For NK, maintaining a nuclear programme has important effects outside of the obvious offensive military applications. If NK didn't have any WMDs and didn't have their entire artillery aimed at Seoul, how long do you think the regime would last before the U.S. or UN destroyed it? NK's nukes are likely defensive in nature, a warning of what could happen if they're pushed too far. It's their last line of defense. Once NK uses its nukes, the regime's life expectancy will fall precipitously.
Secondly, NK's hopes of reunification rest largely on the relative power balace between NK and SK. SK has a much stronger economy, so any reunification deal cut right now would likely favour the SK leadership and leave the NK leadership in the dust. However, the NK leadership can leverage their nuclear programme to retain elements of power in any potential unified Korea.

So yeah. Not sure what I'm getting at here, but I'm sure I had a point.[/quote]

If China stopped supporting North Korea with food and rations, they would be whipped out because of a famine, so as long as the U.S. and other western nations can persuade China to control north korea, there will be no nuclear war[/quote]

That all assumes that whoever is running the North is thinking rationally. Because if they're not they won't play by the rules everybody else is operating on, and that's what makes them especially dangerous.
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