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Hello tftvers, I am making this thread to highlight 2 amazing prodigies in the RGL Main division who really deserve some credit for their amazing skills and accomplishments!

The first prodigy is Yen, a demo player for the team HAPPY. This player is really talented, look at this log where he hard diffs invite players in UGC grand finals on his off class that he had under 60 logs on: https://logs.tf/3546279#76561198037518646
https://logs.tf/3546322#76561198037518646
Here is a video showing some of his amazing skills!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGrUDc_syO4

The other talented player is sampha on whataburger.tf. This is a soldier player who found true his class (scout) and is now nuking every game. Too bad his p-rec glitched out twice this season and he couldn’t submit demos to show the rgl team his awesome skills. https://imgur.com/a/PwA6hCz
Instead I made a video to highlight his immaculate game sense and skills for the rgl admins! Sadly they haven't given him any praise yet :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH2PqFzF1iY

Hopefully the team over at RGL can give these next up goated players some recognition before Main playoffs starts

Hello tftvers, I am making this thread to highlight 2 amazing prodigies in the RGL Main division who really deserve some credit for their amazing skills and accomplishments!

The first prodigy is Yen, a demo player for the team HAPPY. This player is really talented, look at this log where he hard diffs invite players in UGC grand finals on his off class that he had under 60 logs on: https://logs.tf/3546279#76561198037518646
https://logs.tf/3546322#76561198037518646
Here is a video showing some of his amazing skills!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGrUDc_syO4

The other talented player is sampha on whataburger.tf. This is a soldier player who found true his class (scout) and is now nuking every game. Too bad his p-rec glitched out twice this season and he couldn’t submit demos to show the rgl team his awesome skills. https://imgur.com/a/PwA6hCz
Instead I made a video to highlight his immaculate game sense and skills for the rgl admins! Sadly they haven't given him any praise yet :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH2PqFzF1iY

Hopefully the team over at RGL can give these next up goated players some recognition before Main playoffs starts
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#2
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It took me way too long to realize this isn't just a wholesome appreciation post

It took me way too long to realize this isn't just a wholesome appreciation post
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#3
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Thank you for shedding light on the up-and-coming talent in our community. NA scene is finally back!

Thank you for shedding light on the up-and-coming talent in our community. NA scene is finally back!
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#4
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I've known yen for a bit now and know he goes into DM and MGE a lot. I'd also consider him one of those "clip hunters" only playing for the fancy kills and not actually trying to contribute to the team, just padding stats. He also spent a year banned because his team leader in RGL rostered a former cheater on an alt account and since he was listed as coleader, he took the fall as well. He couldn't roster on any teams during that year long ban. There's a chance he's actually cheating but it would require AC to take a look at it.

I've had my suspicions of yen in recent months because of the UGC logs but now I don't know what to think. I took a bit to look back at some of the demos and it's difficult to make a decision. Those clips don't really show the whole picture nor do the logs really. Simply "diffing" Invite players in a UGC match doesn't feel like enough to completely 100% verify cheating. Again, AC would have to do a deeper dive. The clips also show him not even hitting a single shot, just aiming over people so, I dont know.

https://streamable.com/57n2iy here is a clip of yen playing on Product. I guess, for your consideration as well.

I guess it could be like Elijah where he was fooling his friends into thinking he's innocent. But, I don't know what to believe anymore after some other players I've seen play this game.

Would you also say the same about t1grbiceps getting 75%+ acc every log now?

I've known yen for a bit now and know he goes into DM and MGE a lot. I'd also consider him one of those "clip hunters" only playing for the fancy kills and not actually trying to contribute to the team, just padding stats. He also spent a year banned because his team leader in RGL rostered a former cheater on an alt account and since he was listed as coleader, he took the fall as well. He couldn't roster on any teams during that year long ban. There's a chance he's actually cheating but it would require AC to take a look at it.

I've had my suspicions of yen in recent months because of the UGC logs but now I don't know what to think. I took a bit to look back at some of the demos and it's difficult to make a decision. Those clips don't really show the whole picture nor do the logs really. Simply "diffing" Invite players in a UGC match doesn't feel like enough to completely 100% verify cheating. Again, AC would have to do a deeper dive. The clips also show him not even hitting a single shot, just aiming over people so, I dont know.

https://streamable.com/57n2iy here is a clip of yen playing on Product. I guess, for your consideration as well.

I guess it could be like Elijah where he was fooling his friends into thinking he's innocent. But, I don't know what to believe anymore after some other players I've seen play this game.

Would you also say the same about t1grbiceps getting 75%+ acc every log now?
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#5
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Kryma, an incredibly mid soldier player, suddenly turned scout, and, suddenly dropping invite level logs outta nowhere, and he conveniently forgets how to use p-rec the first season that this comes to fruition?

Yen flicking wildly at the medic around the 3 min mark of that vid is hilarious. Trigger bot seems obvious from those clips... I dunno shit tho I ain't the anticheat team.

Kryma, an incredibly mid soldier player, suddenly turned scout, and, suddenly dropping invite level logs outta nowhere, and he conveniently forgets how to use p-rec the first season that this comes to fruition?

Yen flicking wildly at the medic around the 3 min mark of that vid is hilarious. Trigger bot seems obvious from those clips... I dunno shit tho I ain't the anticheat team.
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#6
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think the sane conclusion here is that scout is just a free and easy class. lets ban scout

think the sane conclusion here is that scout is just a free and easy class. lets ban scout
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#7
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If any of these players get banned their teams go 0-16 and a new spot in playoffs open up meaning I make playoffs.

If any of these players get banned their teams go 0-16 and a new spot in playoffs open up meaning I make playoffs.
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trippathink the sane conclusion here is that scout is just a free and easy class. lets ban scout

This is the greatest possible conclusion to have came to

[quote=trippa]think the sane conclusion here is that scout is just a free and easy class. lets ban scout[/quote]
This is the greatest possible conclusion to have came to
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I'm 99% sure Yen is on a plat ultiduo team currently. Unfortunately this thread is the result of when newer regular comp players meet MGE lords. Instead of team play, this guy grinds his aim, thats all this thread comes down to. That streamble clip posted by okyaaa demonstrates that this guy's a machine with his crosshair placement.
edit: also, triggerbot accusations in a game like tf2 are so hard to say because you have no idea what the person playing hears/sees/predicts. He couldve heard a voiceline from an enemy, knew the direction, and prefired upon peaking.

I'm 99% sure Yen is on a plat ultiduo team currently. Unfortunately this thread is the result of when newer regular comp players meet MGE lords. Instead of team play, this guy grinds his aim, thats all this thread comes down to. That streamble clip posted by okyaaa demonstrates that this guy's a machine with his crosshair placement.
edit: also, triggerbot accusations in a game like tf2 are so hard to say because you have no idea what the person playing hears/sees/predicts. He couldve heard a voiceline from an enemy, knew the direction, and prefired upon peaking.
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Hope AC admins make a decision before playoffs start. If both cheaters get banned thats two new playoff spots open and everyone moves up a seed that is below the cheater team. I move up to 8th if one gets banned and I move up to 7th if both get banned. Numbers Go Down makes playoffs if both are banned.

Hope AC admins make a decision before playoffs start. If both cheaters get banned thats two new playoff spots open and everyone moves up a seed that is below the cheater team. I move up to 8th if one gets banned and I move up to 7th if both get banned. Numbers Go Down makes playoffs if both are banned.
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ArchaeologyUnfortunately this thread is the result of when newer regular comp players meet MGE lords.

1 game ban on record | Info
1897 day(s) since last ban

[quote=Archaeology]Unfortunately this thread is the result of when newer regular comp players meet MGE lords.[/quote]

1 game ban on record | Info
1897 day(s) since last ban
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Archaeology

how do cheating balls taste

[quote=Archaeology] [/quote]
how do cheating balls taste
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there's really nothing unusual about the first video tbh, his gameplay reminds me a lot of polish player s4m who was falsely accused of cheating in the past. switching to scout is not as hard as you think, especially if you already have good scout dm from mge or whatever and get 35% heals per map.
1 stv demo against a mediocre team and a few 4s/hl logs against bad players isn't enough evidence.

2nd guy is 100% walling, nobody plays like that

there's really nothing unusual about the first video tbh, his gameplay reminds me a lot of polish player s4m who was falsely accused of cheating in the past. switching to scout is not as hard as you think, especially if you already have good scout dm from mge or whatever and get 35% heals per map.
1 stv demo against a mediocre team and a few 4s/hl logs against bad players isn't enough evidence.

2nd guy is 100% walling, nobody plays like that
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Prime-SanityHope AC admins make a decision before playoffs start. If both cheaters get banned thats two new playoff spots open and everyone moves up a seed that is below the cheater team. I move up to 8th if one gets banned and I move up to 7th if both get banned. Numbers Go Down makes playoffs if both are banned.

let it go bro

[quote=Prime-Sanity]Hope AC admins make a decision before playoffs start. If both cheaters get banned thats two new playoff spots open and everyone moves up a seed that is below the cheater team. I move up to 8th if one gets banned and I move up to 7th if both get banned. Numbers Go Down makes playoffs if both are banned.[/quote]
let it go bro
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#16
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that bloodr4yne guy went 17-0 in grands and still Lost. Lol

that bloodr4yne guy went 17-0 in grands and still Lost. Lol
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MAIN TEAM JOINT STATEMENT

We, the playoffs teams of RGL 6s Main, believe there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that the integrity of playoffs will be compromised if they proceed as scheduled. Therefore, we hereby boycott RGL playoffs (and will host our own playoffs against each other instead) unless RGL takes action by Tuesday, March 26th.

Signed, the team leaders of:

MEELO
OPIUM
P6
R.E.A.L.
cuake live
ta.

[b]MAIN TEAM JOINT STATEMENT[/b]

We, the playoffs teams of RGL 6s Main, believe there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that the integrity of playoffs will be compromised if they proceed as scheduled. [b]Therefore, we hereby boycott RGL playoffs (and will host our own playoffs against each other instead) unless RGL takes action by Tuesday, March 26th. [/b]

Signed, the team leaders of:

MEELO
OPIUM
P6
R.E.A.L.
cuake live
ta.
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#18
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Broooooooooooooother... I scrimmed them the other week and I was like, how is this guy dropping 400 on my forehead and im not particularly beefing either. AND my demo is also dropping 400. I had to go back and look at the vod and also noted that he dropped 500 in the scrim RIGHT after.

https://youtu.be/QHrxY3QljRY
^ I've just clipped a few things from a first glance but it's just super weird by any sense of the imagination?

Broooooooooooooother... I scrimmed them the other week and I was like, how is this guy dropping 400 on my forehead and im not particularly beefing either. AND my demo is also dropping 400. I had to go back and look at the vod and also noted that he dropped 500 in the scrim RIGHT after.

https://youtu.be/QHrxY3QljRY
^ I've just clipped a few things from a first glance but it's just super weird by any sense of the imagination?
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okyaaaWould you also say the same about t1grbiceps getting 75%+ acc every log now?

OMG 5

[quote=okyaaa]
Would you also say the same about t1grbiceps getting 75%+ acc every log now?[/quote]

OMG 5
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T1grokyaaaWould you also say the same about t1grbiceps getting 75%+ acc every log now?
OMG 5

but could he do it on a rainy day in Kent?

[quote=T1gr][quote=okyaaa]
Would you also say the same about t1grbiceps getting 75%+ acc every log now?[/quote]

OMG 5[/quote]
but could he do it on a rainy day in Kent?
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This isn't concrete, but to me, it's very suspicious of toggling with yen.
Link to clip

The argument for him toggling here is:

He jumps left and brings down the 1st Soldier to ~130 HP, but then despite his Soldier bombing, he jumps back and hard flicks (looks like a lock on) to the 2nd Soldier. Then flicks right back perfectly onto the 1st soldier behind the rock.

The problem is what would you do that? You brought down the 1st soldier to 130 HP, and you know your Soldier is going to bomb, so why bait? You wouldn't.

I think what happened was, yen wanted to fight the first Soldier, but he toggled so his crosshair locked onto the 2nd soldier, then because he wanted to fight the 1st Soldier, he locked back onto him, jumps towards him, but the Soldier jumps out so he recommits on the 2nd Soldier.

It is wrong to say this is concrete evidence, but it's suspicious. There is no reason for him to do 80 dmg to a Soldier, lock onto another one perfectly, and lock back on to the original one perfectly behind the rock. A cognitive player would have continued pressuring to get the Soldier picked, made the space, and followed up for his bombing Soldier.

This isn't [b]concrete[/b], but to me, it's very suspicious of toggling with yen.
[url=https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxQHNVeXvNvlENtn3Ri4qy8E1TxHC2wjqO] Link to clip [/url]

The argument for him toggling here is:

He jumps left and brings down the 1st Soldier to ~130 HP, but then despite his Soldier bombing, he jumps back and hard flicks (looks like a lock on) to the 2nd Soldier. Then flicks right back perfectly onto the 1st soldier behind the rock.

The problem is what would you do that? You brought down the 1st soldier to 130 HP, and you know your Soldier is going to bomb, so why bait? You wouldn't.

I think what happened was, [b] yen [/b] wanted to fight the first Soldier, but he [b] toggled [/b]so his crosshair locked onto the 2nd soldier, then because he wanted to fight the 1st Soldier, he locked back onto him, jumps towards him, but the Soldier jumps out so he recommits on the 2nd Soldier.

It is wrong to say this is concrete evidence, but it's suspicious. There is no reason for him to do 80 dmg to a Soldier, lock onto another one perfectly, and lock back on to the original one perfectly behind the rock. A cognitive player would have continued pressuring to get the Soldier picked, made the space, and followed up for his bombing Soldier.
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ArchaeologyUnfortunately this thread is the result of when newer regular comp players meet MGE lords.

because tf2 has never had mge lords who were also cheaters

[quote=Archaeology]Unfortunately this thread is the result of when newer regular comp players meet MGE lords.[/quote]
because tf2 has never had mge lords who were also cheaters
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This kind of thing seems to happen pretty much every season but the difference between this guy and other people is he had a thread made about him. I've seen plenty of people go unchecked by the community and RGL who were obviously cheating and never got reported (frosters in S8 with his crosshair permanently on the ground while still dropping 50 bombs every match and mysteriously going MIA for his most important playoff match that season.) There's really no reason to bring up a cheater from 2 years ago but just to give an example.

forgot to mention yesterday that frosters vanished and went back to SA pugs after losing s8 and came back this season to play on a team with yen. sure bro lol

This kind of thing seems to happen pretty much every season but the difference between this guy and other people is he had a thread made about him. I've seen plenty of people go unchecked by the community and RGL who were obviously cheating and never got reported (frosters in S8 with his crosshair permanently on the ground while still dropping 50 bombs every match and mysteriously going MIA for his most important playoff match that season.) There's really no reason to bring up a cheater from 2 years ago but just to give an example.

forgot to mention yesterday that frosters vanished and went back to SA pugs after losing s8 and came back this season to play on a team with yen. sure bro lol
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what? no... you cannot cheat in tf2... this is a sacred game and the anticheat is flawless and all cheaters get banned immediately! any time you see these dudes dropping 50% pistol accuracy in games it's because they uhm uhm they practiced kovaaks sometimes and played mge every now and then. you guys just don't get it! haters! /s

i know that the rgl team has to deal with a metric shit ton of reports and they go very underappreciated, but seeing shit like this (and confirming everything youngblood said up there ^) is really funny from the outside looking in. i know there are no other games quite like tf2 and nothing has scratched the itch since i left, but i can't imagine seeing dudes like these every season (never getting banned, to make things worse) and somehow still taking the game seriously year after year

what? no... you cannot cheat in tf2... this is a sacred game and the anticheat is flawless and all cheaters get banned immediately! any time you see these dudes dropping 50% pistol accuracy in games it's because they uhm uhm they practiced kovaaks sometimes and played mge every now and then. you guys just don't get it! haters! /s

i know that the rgl team has to deal with a metric shit ton of reports and they go very underappreciated, but seeing shit like this (and confirming everything youngblood said up there ^) is really funny from the outside looking in. i know there are no other games quite like tf2 and nothing has scratched the itch since i left, but i can't imagine seeing dudes like these every season (never getting banned, to make things worse) and somehow still taking the game seriously year after year
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#25
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i would guess that like 50% minimum of players who only play mge are cheaters

i would guess that like 50% minimum of players who only play mge are cheaters
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Why are we letting main players decide who is cheating now?

The video on yen is a whole bunch of nothing burgers there really isnt anything weird from what i see.
you can say im bias when it comes to sampha as i am a sub on whataburger, but watching some of these clips of "evidence" for sampha is so funny dude like what is this: https://youtu.be/XH2PqFzF1iY?t=112
he literally saw the demo before LOL, this has to be a joke right? These clips are huge stretches it's so funny.

anyways, I agree with trippa, lets ban scout.

Why are we letting main players decide who is cheating now?

The video on yen is a whole bunch of nothing burgers there really isnt anything weird from what i see.
you can say im bias when it comes to sampha as i am a sub on whataburger, but watching some of these clips of "evidence" for sampha is so funny dude like what is this: https://youtu.be/XH2PqFzF1iY?t=112
he literally saw the demo before LOL, this has to be a joke right? These clips are huge stretches it's so funny.

anyways, I agree with trippa, lets ban scout.
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Another thing to add, a lot of these clips garm doesnt mention the fact that there are 5 other people in vc (weird i know) with sampha calling the position of players, example: https://youtu.be/XH2PqFzF1iY?t=283
his demo is clearly there shooting the people in lower and even then where else would those people go after ubering into them?

Another thing to add, a lot of these clips garm doesnt mention the fact that there are 5 other people in vc (weird i know) with sampha calling the position of players, example: https://youtu.be/XH2PqFzF1iY?t=283
his demo is clearly there shooting the people in lower and even then where else would those people go after ubering into them?
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#28
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FuzzeAnother thing to add, a lot of these clips garm doesnt mention the fact that there are 5 other people in vc (weird i know) with sampha calling the position of players, example: https://youtu.be/XH2PqFzF1iY?t=283
his demo is clearly there shooting the people in lower and even then where else would those people go after ubering into them?

OK you cannot sit here and defend sampha when his clips look worse than yen's do.

[quote=Fuzze]Another thing to add, a lot of these clips garm doesnt mention the fact that there are 5 other people in vc (weird i know) with sampha calling the position of players, example: https://youtu.be/XH2PqFzF1iY?t=283
his demo is clearly there shooting the people in lower and even then where else would those people go after ubering into them?[/quote]

OK you cannot sit here and defend sampha when his clips look worse than yen's do.
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#29
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okyaaaOK you cannot sit here and defend sampha when his clips look worse than yen's do.

Clips looking weirder than another doesn't mean that that one person is cheating, everyone has sus clips that's no denial.

This video sucks and just shows a lot of bias to me, i would much rather watch a video like dippidy's on eli where he lets the clip play out then gives his thoughts afterwards instead of pausing mid clip and just saying basically "yeah it's clear this dude is cheating." Garm doesn't provide any explanations of how most of these clips could make sense, it is just "sampha is clearly walling/cheating etc."
Also Garm likes to compare himself to sampha and i hate to say this but not everyone plays the same especially in main lol

[quote=okyaaa]
OK you cannot sit here and defend sampha when his clips look worse than yen's do.[/quote]

Clips looking weirder than another doesn't mean that that one person is cheating, everyone has sus clips that's no denial.

This video sucks and just shows a lot of bias to me, i would much rather watch a video like dippidy's on eli where he lets the clip play out then gives his thoughts afterwards instead of pausing mid clip and just saying basically "yeah it's clear this dude is cheating." Garm doesn't provide any explanations of how most of these clips could make sense, it is just "sampha is clearly walling/cheating etc."
Also Garm likes to compare himself to sampha and i hate to say this but not everyone plays the same especially in main lol
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#30
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FuzzeokyaaaOK you cannot sit here and defend sampha when his clips look worse than yen's do.
Clips looking weirder than another doesn't mean that that one person is cheating, everyone has sus clips that's no denial.

This video sucks and just shows a lot of bias to me, i would much rather watch a video like dippidy's on eli where he lets the clip play out then gives his thoughts afterwards instead of pausing mid clip and just saying basically "yeah it's clear this dude is cheating." Garm doesn't provide any explanations of how most of these clips could make sense, it is just "sampha is clearly walling/cheating etc."
Also Garm likes to compare himself to sampha and i hate to say this but not everyone plays the same especially in main lol

Yo didn't you play with sampha/kryma?
https://rgl.gg/Public/Team?t=10138&r=40
https://rgl.gg/Public/Team?t=9688&r=40
https://rgl.gg/Public/Team?t=10430&r=40

[quote=Fuzze][quote=okyaaa]
OK you cannot sit here and defend sampha when his clips look worse than yen's do.[/quote]

Clips looking weirder than another doesn't mean that that one person is cheating, everyone has sus clips that's no denial.

This video sucks and just shows a lot of bias to me, i would much rather watch a video like dippidy's on eli where he lets the clip play out then gives his thoughts afterwards instead of pausing mid clip and just saying basically "yeah it's clear this dude is cheating." Garm doesn't provide any explanations of how most of these clips could make sense, it is just "sampha is clearly walling/cheating etc."
Also Garm likes to compare himself to sampha and i hate to say this but not everyone plays the same especially in main lol[/quote]
Yo didn't you play with sampha/kryma?
https://rgl.gg/Public/Team?t=10138&r=40
https://rgl.gg/Public/Team?t=9688&r=40
https://rgl.gg/Public/Team?t=10430&r=40
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