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Scrap.tf: What is your opinion?
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#31
15 Frags +

AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING

AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING
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#32
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stephunsuprising that tftv would fall for channers trying to smear a brony as a pedo

Why would you immediately chalk it up to "channers?" Odd mindset there...

On top of that, smearing would imply false accusations and slander. Heavy evidence has come out of what is AT BEST very creepy behavior, if not something truly illicit. Any organization should distance itself from this sort of stuff, especially one essentially in charge of one of the biggest virtual economies.

EDIT: Given Geel's history with a shady staff, poor management of saloon.tf, and other similar cover-ups, I don't expect them to do anything about it. It's up to the TF2 community to set things right.

[quote=steph]unsuprising that tftv would fall for channers trying to smear a brony as a pedo[/quote]

Why would you immediately chalk it up to "channers?" Odd mindset there...

On top of that, smearing would imply false accusations and slander. Heavy evidence has come out of what is AT BEST very creepy behavior, if not something truly illicit. Any organization should distance itself from this sort of stuff, especially one essentially in charge of one of the biggest virtual economies.

EDIT: Given Geel's history with a shady staff, poor management of saloon.tf, and other similar cover-ups, I don't expect them to do anything about it. It's up to the TF2 community to set things right.
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#33
-7 Frags +

Another day, another groomer accusation

Another day, another groomer accusation
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#34
10 Frags +

so yeah, i have what i believe is a skeleton fetish? as in, seeing and touching skeletons and skulls kind-of turn me on? i've had this since a pretty young age, and i don't know what to think of it..
i can get ''off'' to touching my own bones, like my pelvis or ribs
based on the amount of pornographic material on this subject, i think it's safe to say this is not a common thing...
i was planning on maybe buying a fake skeleton (the ones they use in medical schools or something) to satisfy my urges, but then again that would make me a huge creep wouldn't it?
please tell me what you think

so yeah, i have what i believe is a skeleton fetish? as in, seeing and touching skeletons and skulls kind-of turn me on? i've had this since a pretty young age, and i don't know what to think of it..
i can get ''off'' to touching my own bones, like my pelvis or ribs
based on the amount of pornographic material on this subject, i think it's safe to say this is not a common thing...
i was planning on maybe buying a fake skeleton (the ones they use in medical schools or something) to satisfy my urges, but then again that would make me a huge creep wouldn't it?
please tell me what you think
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#35
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stephunsuprising that tftv would fall for channers trying to smear a brony as a pedo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_V20uOSkPs

[quote=steph]unsuprising that tftv would fall for channers trying to smear a brony as a pedo[/quote]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_V20uOSkPs[/youtube]
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#36
10 Frags +

ok so scrap tf has done some shady stuff but how does any of this make jesse a pedo? is the video reuploaded anywhere, i feel like im missing something

ok so scrap tf has done some shady stuff but how does any of this make jesse a pedo? is the video reuploaded anywhere, i feel like im missing something
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#37
3 Frags +

It's hard to believe but we have to give the benefit of the doubt of what may of happened.

edited due to a couple reasons, #38 has posted something worth while tho.........

It's hard to believe but we have to give the benefit of the doubt of what may of happened.

edited due to a couple reasons, #38 has posted something worth while tho.........
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#38
7 Frags +

#37 edited this out for some reason https://archive.md/WABnX

#37 edited this out for some reason https://archive.md/WABnX
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#39
5 Frags +

I don't think that was #37, it was posted earlier and edited out

Otherwise this just lends more credence to these statements. They're obviously more than "just rumors," to those who are still detractors.

I don't think that was #37, it was posted earlier and edited out

Otherwise this just lends more credence to these statements. They're obviously more than "just rumors," to those who are still detractors.
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#40
11 Frags +

i would send an ass pic to NOT have a brony badge

i would send an ass pic to NOT have a brony badge
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#41
9 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAzSXUCTYSY

And here... we... go...

More evidence for detractors. This is all unique info, different from what KillJester had on his video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAzSXUCTYSY

And here... we... go...

More evidence for detractors. This is all unique info, different from what KillJester had on his video
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#42
8 Frags +

YEAH thats some damn solid evidence. fucking gross

YEAH thats some damn solid evidence. fucking gross
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#43
5 Frags +

Yeah, awful stuff

Yeah, awful stuff
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#44
16 Frags +

If Epstein was alive he would have given us a Major by this point

If Epstein was alive he would have given us a Major by this point
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#45
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This is small in size compared to the claims that everyone else has made on this thread, but i really hate scrap on how politicized things must be there, slightly disrespecting anything from lgbt to bronies guarantees a ban. And there was this time, some dude who had been there making raffles for about 3-4 years made a single comment on how he disapproved abortion and got slandered by the community until he either quit or got banned

This is small in size compared to the claims that everyone else has made on this thread, but i really hate scrap on how politicized things must be there, slightly disrespecting anything from lgbt to bronies guarantees a ban. And there was this time, some dude who had been there making raffles for about 3-4 years made a single comment on how he disapproved abortion and got slandered by the community until he either quit or got banned
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#46
9 Frags +
yeahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAzSXUCTYSY

following nursey, mechawreck and heavythesquid drama: random, unprofessional people still don't follow any best practises on interviewing victims of child abuse/grooming, and then youtubers are still exposing who the victims are (them saying it's ok doesn't mean it will be ok), (some of) their conversations containing insanely personal information and declaring what types of pictures/videos were taken by whom and which people have them now.

this is actively hurting the victims' mental health and their ability to make the strongest case in a lawsuit that isn't also going to drag on much longer if people hadn't been so content-hungry on youtube/reddit

if some of them thought they were good samaritans by bringing this much detail to the public, especially in this case, they're fucking wrong

let professional people actually prepare proper interviews, probably following a psychological evaluation, instead of not caring about the consequences of these types of information being collected AND shared just for the clicks/upvotes

unfortunately the damage's been done already so reporting the video into oblivion is probably not going to change anything for the victim's sake

[quote=yeah]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAzSXUCTYSY
[/quote]

following nursey, mechawreck and heavythesquid drama: random, unprofessional people still don't follow any best practises on interviewing victims of child abuse/grooming, and then youtubers are still exposing who the victims are (them saying it's ok doesn't mean it will be ok), (some of) their conversations containing insanely personal information and declaring what types of pictures/videos were taken by whom and which people have them now.

this is actively hurting the victims' mental health and their ability to make the strongest case in a lawsuit that isn't also going to drag on much longer if people hadn't been so content-hungry on youtube/reddit

if some of them thought they were good samaritans by bringing this much detail to the public, especially in this case, they're fucking wrong

let professional people actually prepare proper interviews, probably following a psychological evaluation, instead of not caring about the consequences of these types of information being collected AND shared just for the clicks/upvotes

unfortunately the damage's been done already so reporting the video into oblivion is probably not going to change anything for the victim's sake
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#47
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mtiga. And there was this time, some dude who had been there making raffles for about 3-4 years made a single comment on how he disapproved abortion and got slandered by the community until he either quit or got banned

Is that really a huge loss to your community lol

[quote=mtiga]. And there was this time, some dude who had been there making raffles for about 3-4 years made a single comment on how he disapproved abortion and got slandered by the community until he either quit or got banned[/quote]

Is that really a huge loss to your community lol
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#48
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quintosh

Not saying you're wrong about the implications, but sometimes being overly analytical about something makes it so shit doesn't get done. All of this backlash was spurt out of the now taken down video. Maybe it was the unprofessional "let's throw all of this out in the wild" approach that set the table for the victims to realize there's a collective. I'm sure there were naysayers and scraptf fanatics defending the offenders, but the internet (believe it or not) can also provide support and encouragement for people to stop being idle about it.

[quote=quintosh][/quote] Not saying you're wrong about the implications, but sometimes being overly analytical about something makes it so shit doesn't get done. All of this backlash was spurt out of the now taken down video. Maybe it was the unprofessional "let's throw all of this out in the wild" approach that set the table for the victims to realize there's a collective. I'm sure there were naysayers and scraptf fanatics defending the offenders, but the internet (believe it or not) can also provide support and encouragement for people to stop being idle about it.
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#49
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stephunsuprising that tftv would fall for channers trying to smear a brony as a pedo

shut the fuck UP DUMBASS. now is NOT the time to be a crack addict

[quote=steph]unsuprising that tftv would fall for channers trying to smear a brony as a pedo[/quote]
shut the fuck UP DUMBASS. now is NOT the time to be a crack addict
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#50
2 Frags +

the only good furry is a

the only good furry is a
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#51
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lvin from alvin and the chipmunks

lvin from alvin and the chipmunks
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#52
2 Frags +

Just watched that video and it made me cringe and sick, take these fucking pedos out back and just shoot em

Just watched that video and it made me cringe and sick, take these fucking pedos out back and just shoot em
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#53
5 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/rUWknhY.png

Here is one of the "former" mods post on Reddit....
Link
backup just incase they delete it....

[img]https://i.imgur.com/rUWknhY.png[/img]

Here is one of the "former" mods post on Reddit....
[url=https://pastebin.com/PJy8RXtB]Link[/url]
[url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200620063857/https://pastebin.com/PJy8RXtB]backup just incase they delete it....[/url]
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#54
58 Frags +

Hey, y'all remember when cozen attended GXL 2015 and made his third consecutive rape attempt on the same victim in the room he was sharing with five other people but was headlocked by the undefeated legendzini himself and the victim had to leave this community permanently because she was afraid of community backlash for it being an invite player she was attacked by? Because she understood the amount of power and influence one has by just being associated with the 1% perceived as better than the population of untalented randos on the internet.

As they all shared the room everyone slept on the floor. When everyone was asleep he took off everything but his boxers and scooted over to her. She said she could feel him adjusting his legs to spoon her, his hands attempted to push down her pants as she silently screamed for help. She stated her body turned to ice and she began internally screaming. Thankfully, Matt woke up and put a stop to it but he was moments away from raping her. And she left because she knew back in 2015, FIVE YEARS AGO, none of you half-wits would be able to make up your mind over what's important and stand up for abuse of power. She was right. None of you do. Dude's still playing afaik and none of you are the wiser.

I warned people of this, but got obliterated in pointless opinion points. Lansky had to step up and say I'm right, then it equaled out.

Great to see things have stayed the exact same way, only this is a more sophisticated skunk-works meant to feed their malice. I'm sure this isn't related to why Valve won't publicly support any of you.

Hey, y'all remember when cozen attended GXL 2015 and made his [b]third[/b] consecutive rape attempt on the same victim in the room he was sharing with five other people but was headlocked by the undefeated legendzini himself and the [b]victim[/b] had to leave this community permanently because she was afraid of community backlash for it being an invite player she was attacked by? Because she understood the amount of power and influence one has by just being associated with the 1% perceived as better than the population of untalented randos on the internet.

As they all shared the room everyone slept on the floor. When everyone was asleep he took off everything but his boxers and scooted over to her. She said she could feel him adjusting his legs to spoon her, his hands attempted to push down her pants as she silently screamed for help. She stated her body turned to ice and she began internally screaming. Thankfully, Matt woke up and put a stop to it but he was moments away from raping her. And she left because she knew back in 2015, FIVE YEARS AGO, none of you half-wits would be able to make up your mind over what's important and stand up for abuse of power. She was right. None of you do. Dude's still playing afaik and none of you are the wiser.

I warned people of this, but got obliterated in pointless opinion points. Lansky had to step up and say I'm right, then it equaled out.

Great to see things have stayed the exact same way, only this is a more sophisticated skunk-works meant to feed their malice. I'm sure this isn't related to why Valve won't publicly support any of you.
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#55
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#56
18 Frags +

Matt/TechNasty was an MMA fighter. He contained him because cozen is a limp noodle and couldn't do shit if he tried, made sure the victim was okay and just stared his ass down until they checked out. Matt would've destroyed him if he retaliated and it would've looked bad on Matt from outside perspective, knowing this he just restrained him for a long time. Kind of a taste of his own medicine really if you think about it. A giant guido spooning you and choking your throat and you can't move after your failed rape attempt.

Matt/TechNasty was an MMA fighter. He contained him because cozen is a limp noodle and couldn't do shit if he tried, made sure the victim was okay and just stared his ass down until they checked out. Matt would've destroyed him if he retaliated and it would've looked bad on Matt from outside perspective, knowing this he just restrained him for a long time. Kind of a taste of his own medicine really if you think about it. A giant guido spooning you and choking your throat and you can't move after your failed rape attempt.
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#57
6 Frags +

It's honestly so fucking pathetic that people in this already small community get an ounce of recognition or power just to use it to abuse people

It's honestly so fucking pathetic that people in this already small community get an ounce of recognition or power just to use it to abuse people
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#58
3 Frags +
quintoshyeahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAzSXUCTYSY
following nursey, mechawreck and heavythesquid drama: random, unprofessional people still don't follow any best practises on interviewing victims of child abuse/grooming, and then youtubers are still exposing who the victims are (them saying it's ok doesn't mean it will be ok), (some of) their conversations containing insanely personal information and declaring what types of pictures/videos were taken by whom and which people have them now.

this is actively hurting the victims' mental health and their ability to make the strongest case in a lawsuit that isn't also going to drag on much longer if people hadn't been so content-hungry on youtube/reddit

if some of them thought they were good samaritans by bringing this much detail to the public, especially in this case, they're fucking wrong

let professional people actually prepare proper interviews, probably following a psychological evaluation, instead of not caring about the consequences of these types of information being collected AND shared just for the clicks/upvotes

unfortunately the damage's been done already so reporting the video into oblivion is probably not going to change anything for the victim's sake

Yeah, fair to say that this type of video has serious cons. I'd imagine if reporting this to the authorities had already worked, Jesse would have been taken care of, right? Thing is, nothing has happened and the TF2 community has passively let Jesse, Geel, and others continue to harm others. The Scrap.tf team is also trying to suppress this information since it's the only threat to them right now. Raising awareness is the right thing to do at this point. But I totally agree, the person who found this out/compiled all this should reach out to the victim first/suggest they reach out to authorities. Perhaps if this seemed like the type of thing that would escalate, hold off the video.

Zetosquintosh Not saying you're wrong about the implications, but sometimes being overly analytical about something makes it so shit doesn't get done. All of this backlash was spurt out of the now taken down video. Maybe it was the unprofessional "let's throw all of this out in the wild" approach that set the table for the victims to realize there's a collective. I'm sure there were naysayers and scraptf fanatics defending the offenders, but the internet (believe it or not) can also provide support and encouragement for people to stop being idle about it.

Very true, honestly I don't think people are going to target the victim, and many would offer support to the victim (however they might not want the attention since it's quite sensitive and the they could be seen in a bad light). From a "muh utilitarianism" view, you could argue that more good is coming out of this if Jesse is called out big time.

EDIT: Side note. I should point out that there was a Steam Discussion thread on this matter, and I had posted the WAMO video saying that more information had come out. It was reported (I think), the post was taken down, and the thread was locked. Not sure if mods are in on it, or post was reported for some reason. On top of that, I would hope that the post was reported for worries of what quintosh had mentioned, rather than some Scrap.tf defenders rushing to Geel and Jesse's rescue.

[quote=quintosh][quote=yeah]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAzSXUCTYSY
[/quote]

following nursey, mechawreck and heavythesquid drama: random, unprofessional people still don't follow any best practises on interviewing victims of child abuse/grooming, and then youtubers are still exposing who the victims are (them saying it's ok doesn't mean it will be ok), (some of) their conversations containing insanely personal information and declaring what types of pictures/videos were taken by whom and which people have them now.

this is actively hurting the victims' mental health and their ability to make the strongest case in a lawsuit that isn't also going to drag on much longer if people hadn't been so content-hungry on youtube/reddit

if some of them thought they were good samaritans by bringing this much detail to the public, especially in this case, they're fucking wrong

let professional people actually prepare proper interviews, probably following a psychological evaluation, instead of not caring about the consequences of these types of information being collected AND shared just for the clicks/upvotes

unfortunately the damage's been done already so reporting the video into oblivion is probably not going to change anything for the victim's sake[/quote]
Yeah, fair to say that this type of video has serious cons. I'd imagine if reporting this to the authorities had already worked, Jesse would have been taken care of, right? Thing is, nothing has happened and the TF2 community has passively let Jesse, Geel, and others continue to harm others. The Scrap.tf team is also trying to suppress this information since it's the only threat to them right now. Raising awareness is the right thing to do at this point. But I totally agree, the person who found this out/compiled all this should reach out to the victim first/suggest they reach out to authorities. Perhaps if this seemed like the type of thing that would escalate, hold off the video.

[quote=Zetos][quote=quintosh][/quote] Not saying you're wrong about the implications, but sometimes being overly analytical about something makes it so shit doesn't get done. All of this backlash was spurt out of the now taken down video. Maybe it was the unprofessional "let's throw all of this out in the wild" approach that set the table for the victims to realize there's a collective. I'm sure there were naysayers and scraptf fanatics defending the offenders, but the internet (believe it or not) can also provide support and encouragement for people to stop being idle about it.[/quote]
Very true, honestly I don't think people are going to target the victim, and many would offer support to the victim (however they might not want the attention since it's quite sensitive and the they could be seen in a bad light). From a "muh utilitarianism" view, you could argue that more good is coming out of this if Jesse is called out big time.

EDIT: Side note. I should point out that there was a Steam Discussion thread on this matter, and I had posted the WAMO video saying that more information had come out. It was reported (I think), the post was taken down, and the thread was locked. Not sure if mods are in on it, or post was reported for some reason. On top of that, I would hope that the post was reported for worries of what quintosh had mentioned, rather than some Scrap.tf defenders rushing to Geel and Jesse's rescue.
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