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Goku vs. Saitama (One-Punch Man). Who will win?
About half of the answers on this question are for goku and about half say saitama would win, if we analyze most of the arguments we have generally, Saitama is a gag/parody character and therefore could not be defeated by the character archetype he is parodying, or that saitama broke his limiter and therefore is infinite in power. I will attempt to address both of these and why they aren’t a win all argument here.
1. Saitama is joke/Parody character of the OP shonen protagonist trope, but just because he is a whatever type of funny character does not make him win here, The OG Dragon Ball was at times listed as a comedy show, moreover in the OG dragon ball manga against yamcha, goku broke a manga panel.
Now this is obviously an artistic choice by Akira , it doesn’t mean to imply that goku is reality breaking or anything at this time. however within the world of dragon ball goku has fought Dr. Slump Characters, which are mostly gaga characters like Arale, who fought goku is DBS. During this fight, vegeta was able to adapt to a gag format of fighting, and until distracted, at least stood a chance in his fight
Just because saitama is a joke of being ridiculously OP for his verse, doesn’t mean he has to win due to his comedic nature.
2. Saitama Broke his limiter and therefore is infinite
there are many manga panels that state this, and its true that saitama broke/destroyed/removed his limiter
n the OPM universe a limiter is what prevents any being from becoming stronger than they can handle, ths is true in real life, the human body has a maximum limit that for many athletes have actually exceeded due to abnormalities or in some cases hard work. For example, most of the best olympic swimmers have a genetic defect that nearly negates their production of lactic acid, i’m pretty sure, which makes it much easier for them to swim and train. Estimations of what the human body can actually do are a little crude, and are commonly incorrect, even recently, Usain Bolt’s speed was beyond what most scientists thought a human could reach without serious medical side effects, however he doesn’t have any genetic/physical abnormalities or account for why he can be so fast. These atheletes for whatever reason, manage to surpass what science believed the human maximum was. Saitama has taken this to an extreme, in every way he no longer has a maximum power he can reach, but this doesn’t prove that his power is actually infinite, because if someone of infinite power was holding back, it doesn’t matter what percent they hold back, they would still be near infinite. There is one other major being in OPM stated to have broken its limiter, boros, the guy saitama two shotted. There is one guide , that accompanied the Blu ray release of OPM season one i think that states that Boros in his meteoric burst mode ( ie full power) was beyond any mortal level, implying that at least that form has in some way, at least partially broken boros’s limiter. its also stated in webcomic i think thats what the left is.
(thats the best image i can find on google for it)
Now even if boros was only at a partial breaking of the limiter ie partial infinite power,this would still scale to saitama, who beat him.
before you discount the guide here because it says that saitama might have had to try to beat boros, this guide also says , in certain translations, that the collapsing star roaring cannon is star level
which people love to cite this paragraph as true regardless, and disregard the other page because it doesn't look good on saitama. i don’t mean to anger anyone here, but many people argue something like this.
“well boros here is star level, and saitama beat him no effort so saitama is star+++++, and goku never blew up a star so goku loses no effort in MUI” while they disregard the page before it that states saitama needed to at least try i tiny little bit to destroy boros.
Most statements put boros from planet surface level to full planet level, however lets give the benefit of the doubt that he is full star level, saitama is capable of one shotting him with little effort, pretty sure it said somewhere that saitama had to try a little. hover this means beings without a limiter, including saitama are NOT guaranteed to de infinte in power, and as far as i am aware, there isnt hard proof that saitama is actually infinite, other than his power being incalculable, which is about the same level of statement that goku/vegeta broke a scouter a few times, even somewhat recently in the tarble special. Saiyans in DBZ techically could be interpreted in the same way, vegeta expecially in super stresses that saiyans have no limits
just because goku or saitama could reach a infinite level of power doesn’t mean they already are infinite, unless namek saga vegeta is infinite. and i dont mean to sound like a dragon ball tard here, but as far as i am aware there is now way ouside of statements to prove that either goku or saitama are actually infinite.
Saitama is an incredibly strong guy, who after breaking his limiter doesn't train all that hard and more importantly doesn't have much marital arts knowledge, saitama isn’t all that good at the art of fighting, but is many times stronger than any opponent he faces.
lets assume saitama used something like one thousandth of a percent of his power, or one millionth of his total power to negate a star level attack, were going to assume given the most common estimations for the collapsing star roaring cannon that its small star, or our sun level. (164.913 tenatons) The ability to destroy the sun. there are corrections for a smaller number, but im using the biggest force number i can find for the sun
a solar system requires 1.3644837476099E+35 Tons Of TNT A lot more energy
even if saitamsa punch at full power was ten million times star level, he would be below solar system level, unless we seem him beat a solar sytem buster
but im going to assume saitama is a casual solar sytem buster.
Now where is goku? , how you can try to power scale damage potential with power levels but it frankly doesnt work on a linear scale, its better to use guides/author statements. This is why a linear power scale doesn’t work with power levels being bullshit and all.
guides state saiyan saga vegeta could destroy earth, and a human power level is 5 , vegeta is at 18,000
a fighter with a power level of 10,000 can generate an attack that outputs 47.8 zettatons of energy which can destroy the earth, since it was stated in guides and king vegeta blew up thee planets with a wave of his hand
this mean the average human in DBZ is 1/2000 of vplanet level, this means that 2000 people who where perfectly average but could make a ki blast could blow up the earth this also means that the average human could blow up a mountain if they knew ki control. if you try to linearly scale power in DBZ, literally every feat is disproven by the one before it.
Im kinda going off on a tangent here