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Problem with RGL Policy
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#31
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https://wiki.godvillegame.com/images/4/4d/Ni_we_are.jpg

[img]https://wiki.godvillegame.com/images/4/4d/Ni_we_are.jpg[/img]
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#32
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RGL are banning people people so often based on fear mongering that my team is scared to even type anything in chat in fear that it can be misconstrued and used against us

RGL are banning people people so often based on fear mongering that my team is scared to even type anything in chat in fear that it can be misconstrued and used against us
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#33
18 Frags +

Which one of you virgin admins deleted my post that said "RGL lol".

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/393/829/447.jpg

Which one of you virgin admins deleted my post that said "RGL lol".

[img]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/393/829/447.jpg[/img]
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#34
-1 Frags +
dellaFor the sake of how thorough and professional RGL is with their bans, it should be noted that scratch went from being banned for one year to having to just shill out an appeal to be unbanned the following day(s).

ha what if scratch somehow got unbanned then no one should be. something wrong with that dude

[quote=della]For the sake of how thorough and professional RGL is with their bans, it should be noted that scratch went from being banned for one year to having to just shill out an appeal to be unbanned the following day(s).[/quote]
ha what if scratch somehow got unbanned then no one should be. something wrong with that dude
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#35
20 Frags +

My probation has been lifted and the official reason for my ban has been changed to "Use of racial slurs during RGL scrim. Two week ban." That's all I ever asked for. Jokes aside, I'd like to take a moment to talk about a few things.

There are no words to describe how grateful I am to Virgil for what she has done for me and my team. Understand that she didn't make this thread because we are friends. She didn't do it because I asked her to or because my teammates asked her to. She did it because she believed that what RGL did to me was wrong and she believed that she had a moral obligation to say something against it. Where most people would have said nothing, she said something and for that she has my undying respect.

That being said I now have to betray her trust in order to show the rest of you the true extent of RGL's incompetence: https://i.imgur.com/bBI1vVK.png

These are the people who are running your league. These are the people who have the final say. These are the people you are giving your money to. The community has proven that it can sustain itself without being bound by the shackles of ESEA. But what you people haven't realized is that ESEA hasn't gone anywhere. Its been here this whole time. Its just been operating under a new name and new management. It hasn't even been a month in the new year and RGL has already taken two consecutive Ls back to back. At what point will you people stop for a moment and ask yourselves "Hey, we gotta talk about RGL".

I've been on the Internet for a long time and in that time I've been called many things and yet despite all that I have never not once ever IN MY LIFE felt less of a person because of what someone called me. What RGL did to me was fucked up. When they handled my case they did not view me as a self, as an individual, as a person. They saw me as dirt. I don't care about my ban, don't care about being put on probation, don't care about an appeal and I don't even care about not getting a refund. All I ever cared about was the truth. That the reasoning behind my severe punishment was not because I have a HISTORY of "continuous behavior issues" but because I am friends with people that the RGL staff don't like. They will never admit to that of course. So instead they branded me as some sort of CYBER TERRORIST for the whole world to see. I don't want an apology. I want an explanation. The community deserves an explanation. I need to know: How the fuck did it get this bad?

My probation has been lifted and the official reason for my ban has been changed to "Use of racial slurs during RGL scrim. Two week ban." That's all I ever asked for. Jokes aside, I'd like to take a moment to talk about a few things.

There are no words to describe how grateful I am to Virgil for what she has done for me and my team. Understand that she didn't make this thread because we are friends. She didn't do it because I asked her to or because my teammates asked her to. She did it because she believed that what RGL did to me was wrong and she believed that she had a moral obligation to say something against it. Where most people would have said nothing, she said something and for that she has my undying respect.

That being said I now have to betray her trust in order to show the rest of you the true extent of RGL's incompetence: https://i.imgur.com/bBI1vVK.png

These are the people who are running your league. These are the people who have the final say. These are the people you are giving your money to. The community has proven that it can sustain itself without being bound by the shackles of ESEA. But what you people haven't realized is that ESEA hasn't gone anywhere. Its been here this whole time. Its just been operating under a new name and new management. It hasn't even been a month in the new year and RGL has already taken two consecutive Ls back to back. At what point will you people stop for a moment and ask yourselves "Hey, we gotta talk about RGL".

I've been on the Internet for a long time and in that time I've been called many things and yet despite all that I have never not once ever IN MY LIFE felt less of a person because of what someone called me. What RGL did to me was fucked up. When they handled my case they did not view me as a self, as an individual, as a person. They saw me as dirt. I don't care about my ban, don't care about being put on probation, don't care about an appeal and I don't even care about not getting a refund. All I ever cared about was the truth. That the reasoning behind my severe punishment was not because I have a HISTORY of "continuous behavior issues" but because I am friends with people that the RGL staff don't like. They will never admit to that of course. So instead they branded me as some sort of CYBER TERRORIST for the whole world to see. I don't want an apology. I want an explanation. The community deserves an explanation. I need to know: How the fuck did it get this bad?
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#36
40 Frags +

its a privately hosted FPS game competitive league, if u get banned u dont get a trial u have no rights there are no laws that save u. the most u can do is ask for ur money back. not commenting on the legitimacy of whether cember should be banned or not, ive never had a problem with him, but u guys really need to stop acting like ur 1st amendment is being infringed

its a privately hosted FPS game competitive league, if u get banned u dont get a trial u have no rights there are no laws that save u. the most u can do is ask for ur money back. not commenting on the legitimacy of whether cember should be banned or not, ive never had a problem with him, but u guys really need to stop acting like ur 1st amendment is being infringed
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#37
18 Frags +

Words can be taken as insults. n word has some pretty historical and continuing context to it, and I'm still not sure what else "ni" is supposed to stand for. he said the word. dont say the word. ez lol.

PREDICTABO!the ni you fuckin
and that other ni you fuckin

and wait, so people you play with have a history of doing the exact same thing? no shit the admins are giving you a harsher ban, why do they keep having to deal with this same rule with you guys? the rule is just "dont say this one word." unless you have keyboard centered tourette syndrome, get over it.

Words can be taken as insults. n word has some pretty historical and continuing context to it, and I'm still not sure what else "ni" is supposed to stand for. he said the word. dont say the word. ez lol.
[quote=PREDICTABO!]the ni you fuckin
and that other ni you fuckin[/quote]

and wait, so people you play with have a history of doing the exact same thing? no shit the admins are giving you a harsher ban, why do they keep having to deal with this same rule with you guys? the rule is just "dont say this one word." unless you have keyboard centered tourette syndrome, get over it.
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#38
22 Frags +
cemberI've been on the Internet for a long time and in that time I've been called many things and yet despite all that I have never not once ever IN MY LIFE felt less of a person because of what someone called me. What RGL did to me was fucked up. When they handled my case they did not view me as a self, as an individual, as a person. They saw me as dirt.

I'm sure you sincerely believe this and it's not just concern trolling.

[quote=cember]I've been on the Internet for a long time and in that time I've been called many things and yet despite all that I have never not once ever IN MY LIFE felt less of a person because of what someone called me. What RGL did to me was fucked up. When they handled my case they did not view me as a self, as an individual, as a person. They saw me as dirt. [/quote]

I'm sure you sincerely believe this and it's not just concern trolling.
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#39
-5 Frags +

return to tradition

https://on-winning.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/esea.jpg

return to tradition
[img]https://on-winning.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/esea.jpg[/img]
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#40
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bro how are you trying to take the moral highground when you use slurs. you're seriously saying "I've never felt less of a person because of what someone called me" but you joke around with slurs that dehumanize people and literally make them feel like less of a person? "They never saw me like a person" when you're saying "u fucking ni-" like it's not as bad somehow?

cognitive dissonance is wild

bro how are you trying to take the moral highground when you use slurs. you're seriously saying "I've never felt less of a person because of what someone called me" but you joke around with slurs that dehumanize people and literally make them feel like less of a person? "They never saw me like a person" when you're saying "u fucking ni-" like it's not as bad somehow?

cognitive dissonance is wild
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#41
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RebiteI've gotten angry plenty of times and I've never started yelling slurs left and right.Rebite"They never saw me like a person" when you're saying "u fucking ni-" like it's not as bad somehow?knsumeapparently its just really hard to find a different word to shittalk with

might want to take a look at cember's chat logs again

[quote=Rebite]I've gotten angry plenty of times and I've never started yelling slurs left and right.[/quote]
[quote=Rebite]"They never saw me like a person" when you're saying "u fucking ni-" like it's not as bad somehow?[/quote]
[quote=knsume]apparently its just really hard to find a different word to shittalk with[/quote]


might want to take a look at cember's chat logs again
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#42
-5 Frags +

its unbelievable how people on tftv literally can not read or understand a single concept unless they are specifically addressed and babied

rgl is spreading lies about cember and people like rebite just spread the lies even more calling him out for "using slurs"

first of all you need to learn to read and second of all you need to grow up

rgl took cembers money, his teams money, banned him for a meme, spread lies about him, and still you guys somehow make cember the villain

ive known cember longer than most the people posting on this thread and whether you believe me or not he is not a villain and shouldn't be treated as one. he is genuinely one of the nicest people i know
but why would you trust me or my friends we are all cyber terrorists and deserve to be hanged

its unbelievable how people on tftv literally can not read or understand a single concept unless they are specifically addressed and babied

rgl is spreading lies about cember and people like rebite just spread the lies even more calling him out for "using slurs"

first of all you need to learn to read and second of all you need to grow up

rgl took cembers money, his teams money, banned him for a meme, spread lies about him, and still you guys somehow make cember the villain

ive known cember longer than most the people posting on this thread and whether you believe me or not he is not a villain and shouldn't be treated as one. he is genuinely one of the nicest people i know
but why would you trust me or my friends we are all cyber terrorists and deserve to be hanged
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#43
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what lie did they really spread tho? It's not like he didn't do what he got banned for lmao

what lie did they really spread tho? It's not like he didn't do what he got banned for lmao
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#44
14 Frags +

if ur banning people for saying ni you have to ban literally everyone in pugchamp

if ur banning people for saying ni you have to ban literally everyone in pugchamp
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#45
5 Frags +
Seinfeldits a privately hosted FPS game competitive league, if u get banned u dont get a trial u have no rights there are no laws that save u. the most u can do is ask for ur money back. not commenting on the legitimacy of whether cember should be banned or not, ive never had a problem with him, but u guys really need to stop acting like ur 1st amendment is being infringed

Why can't people talk about admins being stupid without someone pointing out how the first amendment works

[quote=Seinfeld]its a privately hosted FPS game competitive league, if u get banned u dont get a trial u have no rights there are no laws that save u. the most u can do is ask for ur money back. not commenting on the legitimacy of whether cember should be banned or not, ive never had a problem with him, but u guys really need to stop acting like ur 1st amendment is being infringed[/quote]

Why can't people talk about admins being stupid without someone pointing out how the first amendment works
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#46
-11 Frags +
capnnofapnSeinfeldits a privately hosted FPS game competitive league, if u get banned u dont get a trial u have no rights there are no laws that save u. the most u can do is ask for ur money back. not commenting on the legitimacy of whether cember should be banned or not, ive never had a problem with him, but u guys really need to stop acting like ur 1st amendment is being infringed
Why can't people talk about admins being stupid without someone pointing out how the first amendment works

u have no choice. sigafoo chooses who he employs, threads like this serve no purpose. u are locked into playing this league if you want a competitive league to play tf2 in, if you don't like this league or don't want to play in it, then theres nothing else u can do. come to terms with being ruled by iron fists

[quote=capnnofapn][quote=Seinfeld]its a privately hosted FPS game competitive league, if u get banned u dont get a trial u have no rights there are no laws that save u. the most u can do is ask for ur money back. not commenting on the legitimacy of whether cember should be banned or not, ive never had a problem with him, but u guys really need to stop acting like ur 1st amendment is being infringed[/quote]

Why can't people talk about admins being stupid without someone pointing out how the first amendment works[/quote]
u have no choice. sigafoo chooses who he employs, threads like this serve no purpose. u are locked into playing this league if you want a competitive league to play tf2 in, if you don't like this league or don't want to play in it, then theres nothing else u can do. come to terms with being ruled by iron fists
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#47
4 Frags +
indigosummerwhat lie did they really spread tho? It's not like he didn't do what he got banned for lmao

it is in the fucking OP u moron u are just proving my point further

[quote=indigosummer]what lie did they really spread tho? It's not like he didn't do what he got banned for lmao[/quote]
it is in the fucking OP u moron u are just proving my point further
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#48
3 Frags +
cember

i was with you till that last paragraph
ya got a 2 week ban from a tf2 league cmon bruh

[quote=cember][/quote]
i was with you till that last paragraph
ya got a 2 week ban from a tf2 league cmon bruh
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#49
6 Frags +
trippaif ur banning people for saying ni you have to ban literally everyone in pugchampMikeMatcemberya got a 2 week ban from a tf2 league cmon bruh

ya the only league that exists lol

[quote=trippa]if ur banning people for saying ni you have to ban literally everyone in pugchamp[/quote]

[quote=MikeMat][quote=cember][/quote]
ya got a 2 week ban from a tf2 league cmon bruh[/quote]
ya the only league that exists lol
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#50
13 Frags +

"dont say the n word" is like the lowest bar as far as league rules go and yet we have threads like this every week because apparently its just really hard to find a different word to shittalk with

"dont say the n word" is like the lowest bar as far as league rules go and yet we have threads like this every week because apparently its just really hard to find a different word to shittalk with
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#51
16 Frags +

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387764227965976579/669258087021936650/1551941138655.jpg

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387764227965976579/669258087021936650/1551941138655.jpg[/img]
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#52
-5 Frags +
knsume"dont say the n word" is like the lowest bar as far as league rules go and yet we have threads like this every week because apparently its just really hard to find a different word to shittalk with

read the thread and do your research before posting your opinion

[quote=knsume]"dont say the n word" is like the lowest bar as far as league rules go and yet we have threads like this every week because apparently its just really hard to find a different word to shittalk with[/quote]
read the thread and do your research before posting your opinion
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#53
-3 Frags +
edinknsume"dont say the n word" is like the lowest bar as far as league rules go and yet we have threads like this every week because apparently its just really hard to find a different word to shittalk withread the thread and do your research before posting your opinion

he wouldnt have gotten banned in the first place if he wasnt dropping slurs in chat. im not even commenting on the stuff that the admins were doing, which is wrong, but come the fuck on its not that hard.

[quote=edin][quote=knsume]"dont say the n word" is like the lowest bar as far as league rules go and yet we have threads like this every week because apparently its just really hard to find a different word to shittalk with[/quote]
read the thread and do your research before posting your opinion[/quote]
he wouldnt have gotten banned in the first place if he wasnt dropping slurs in chat. im not even commenting on the stuff that the admins were doing, which is wrong, but come the fuck on its not that hard.
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#54
0 Frags +

@edin im not saying rgl is doing a good job, rgl is super overzealous with bans in some cases but im pointing out that how cember felt when rgl admins assumed stuff about him and dehumanized him is how it feels to others when he or others use slurs. also how is using a slur a meme?

@edin im not saying rgl is doing a good job, rgl is super overzealous with bans in some cases but im pointing out that how cember felt when rgl admins assumed stuff about him and dehumanized him is how it feels to others when he or others use slurs. also how is using a slur a meme?
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#55
-27 Frags +

Truly a dystopia.
My heart goes out to those suffering under the oppressive RGL regime.

Truly a dystopia.
My heart goes out to those suffering under the oppressive RGL regime.
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#56
6 Frags +
Rebite@edin im not saying rgl is doing a good job, rgl is super overzealous with bans in some cases but im pointing out that how cember felt when rgl admins assumed stuff about him and dehumanized him is how it feels to others when he or others use slurs. also how is using a slur a meme?

it's literally post number three
cember got a funny kill and typed out that meme
like I said people on tftv can not read man

[quote=Rebite]@edin im not saying rgl is doing a good job, rgl is super overzealous with bans in some cases but im pointing out that how cember felt when rgl admins assumed stuff about him and dehumanized him is how it feels to others when he or others use slurs. also how is using a slur a meme?[/quote]
it's literally post number three
cember got a funny kill and typed out that meme
like I said people on tftv can not read man
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#57
34 Frags +

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/478446364318105602/669262441485565952/image0.png?format=png

Wow edin. Why isn’t this racist scumbag banned yet?

[img]https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/478446364318105602/669262441485565952/image0.png?format=png[/img]
Wow edin. Why isn’t this racist scumbag banned yet?
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#58
21 Frags +

that nihilist you fuckin
and that other ninnyhammer you fuckin

that [b]ni[/b]hilist you fuckin
and that other [b]ni[/b]nnyhammer you fuckin
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#59
8 Frags +
knsumeedinknsume"dont say the n word" is like the lowest bar as far as league rules go and yet we have threads like this every week because apparently its just really hard to find a different word to shittalk withread the thread and do your research before posting your opinionhe wouldnt have gotten banned in the first place if he wasnt dropping slurs in chat. im not even commenting on the stuff that the admins were doing, which is wrong, but come the fuck on its not that hard.

nigga thats not even what he did though. whats your point.

[quote=knsume][quote=edin][quote=knsume]"dont say the n word" is like the lowest bar as far as league rules go and yet we have threads like this every week because apparently its just really hard to find a different word to shittalk with[/quote]
read the thread and do your research before posting your opinion[/quote]
he wouldnt have gotten banned in the first place if he wasnt dropping slurs in chat. im not even commenting on the stuff that the admins were doing, which is wrong, but come the fuck on its not that hard.[/quote]
nigga thats not even what he did though. whats your point.
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#60
12 Frags +
RebiteDaffodil-knsume

how do you go outside without having a panic attack instantly lmfao you guys are fucking nerds and you cant even read the thread before posting your shitty opinions

im sure every black person you ever meet from now on will thank you for defending them against the evil kid who typed "ni" in a videogame good job guys

[quote=Rebite][/quote]
[quote=Daffodil-][/quote]
[quote=knsume][/quote]
how do you go outside without having a panic attack instantly lmfao you guys are fucking nerds and you cant even read the thread before posting your shitty opinions

im sure every black person you ever meet from now on will thank you for defending them against the evil kid who typed "ni" in a videogame good job guys
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