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https://youtu.be/74TFS8r_SMI

https://youtu.be/74TFS8r_SMI
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so many hot opinions in this thread

let me give you hillary's entire presidential campaign - the image

http://i.imgur.com/2FSpkkT.jpg

so many hot opinions in this thread

let me give you hillary's entire presidential campaign - the image

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fireindaarcadeflatlinei'm pretty sure even if he magically gets enough votes to "secure" the nomination the republican party will probably choose rubio or cruz as their nomination because they (rightfully) think he's a batshit-crazy moron
The party isn't gonna choose Cruz, because most of them hate him as well. It's probably going to be Rubio. He's rational compared to Trump or Carson, but I still vehemently disagree with most of his policies and opinions. I miss Jon Huntsman.

yeah you're probably right, Cruz is pretty insane too

Every election cycle I want to at least like one Republican but every time I go down the list of what they stand for they always fuck up one big thing (usually gay marriage or climate change) and then I end up backing another Democrat. (feel the bern 2016)

I miss Jon Huntsman too, he wasn't perfect but he's definitely more in line with my views than any other Republican candidate on stage.

[quote=fireindaarcade][quote=flatline]i'm pretty sure even if he magically gets enough votes to "secure" the nomination the republican party will probably choose rubio or cruz as their nomination because they (rightfully) think he's a batshit-crazy moron
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The party isn't gonna choose Cruz, because most of them hate him as well. It's probably going to be Rubio. He's rational compared to Trump or Carson, but I still vehemently disagree with most of his policies and opinions. I miss Jon Huntsman.[/quote]

yeah you're probably right, Cruz is pretty insane too

Every election cycle I want to at least like one Republican but every time I go down the list of what they stand for they always fuck up one big thing (usually gay marriage or climate change) and then I end up backing another Democrat. (feel the bern 2016)

I miss Jon Huntsman too, he wasn't perfect but he's definitely more in line with my views than any other Republican candidate on stage.
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lol_goatSpaceCadetI don't support Trump or anyone at this point but one thing I will say is that it is refreshing as shit to hear a political figure say things and not worry about being politically correct all the fucking time.

Trumps appeal comes in the fact that he is not completely tied to political favors and outside money to influence his opinions and views. He isn't forced to say something a PC way to keep a big financial supporter happy. He just says whatever the hell is on his mind. I can respect that but if he gets elected, he needs to followup on his promises unlike what Obama has done the past 8 years.

You know who else isn't tied to outside money and financial backers? You know who else just tells the truth? Bernie Fucking Sanders. And Bernie isn't a misogynistic, racist, xenophobic, fear-mongering piece of shit.

For me at this point, it's Bernie or bust. He's literally the only candidate who actually gives a fuck about real people.

Did Bernie ever threaten to run independent if clinton got the nomination? No mistake, I like Bernie Sanders, i don't think increasing tax rates will work when the big corps will just launder the money, and the rich will just arrange their accounts to circumvent it. Problem is when there are issues where the government and existing private sectors have a face-off, the private sector will win every time, like how the banks got away with profiting along in the scam that was Enron, and those same guys, will plunder and plunder again, becuase they are the smartest people in the room.

Else you're going to have to make the US another way to keep it a place to invest and use your currency, and with that it means keynesian money pumping government works, and that wont go with a repub congress blocking, filibustering and shutting down government in some states and the alternative is "austerity" which Greece tried... and lost 35% of its economy by.
getting rid of the student bubble would be a giant relief but i think is suggesting the wrong tools for the wrong time, he'd probably been a better president than bill clinton in that time on that aspect, but i think a businessman who probably knows all the backdoors has a sound plan.

And don't compare Trump to Hitler please, compare Trump to Roosevelt instead becuase these would be very similar times, with radical solutions

"Herbert Hoover had already considered a bank holiday to prevent further bank runs, but rejected the idea because he was afraid to trip a panic. Roosevelt, however, gave a radio address, held in the atmosphere of a Fireside Chat, and explained to the public in simple terms the causes of the banking crisis, what the government will do and how the population could help. He closed all the banks in the country and kept them all closed until he could pass new legislation.[41]"

That's to say though, giant misfure for intending to just use word "muslim" instead of being specific like Salafist or Wahhabi, think he forgets, that as an result of counterculture, the people who grew up under bush, and his neo-con shit, that post 9-11 america followed blindly on the warpath, and now see the results, and don't want anything to do with it anymore, and Americans are in it for the underdog, and geniunely believe in the idea of no prefixes American, that just bringing it up, and sounding real close back to those days, take it up for the underdog, that wants to be American right, and there are countless muslim patriots, like mohammed Ali, who's religion never seemed to be an issue, but still enough americans see that the "close ally" Saudi Arabia, is a fucking hellhole, which you btw can't enter if you aren't Muslim btw (mecca itself I mean) and don't want to fight their dirty wars.

[quote=lol_goat][quote=SpaceCadet]I don't support Trump or anyone at this point but one thing I will say is that it is refreshing as shit to hear a political figure say things and not worry about being politically correct all the fucking time.

Trumps appeal comes in the fact that he is not completely tied to political favors and outside money to influence his opinions and views. He isn't forced to say something a PC way to keep a big financial supporter happy. He just says whatever the hell is on his mind. I can respect that but if he gets elected, he needs to followup on his promises unlike what Obama has done the past 8 years.[/quote]

You know who else isn't tied to outside money and financial backers? You know who else just tells the truth? Bernie Fucking Sanders. And Bernie isn't a misogynistic, racist, xenophobic, fear-mongering piece of shit.

For me at this point, it's Bernie or bust. He's literally the only candidate who actually gives a fuck about real people.[/quote]
Did Bernie ever threaten to run independent if clinton got the nomination? No mistake, I like Bernie Sanders, i don't think increasing tax rates will work when the big corps will just launder the money, and the rich will just arrange their accounts to circumvent it. Problem is when there are issues where the government and existing private sectors have a face-off, the private sector will win every time, like how the banks got away with profiting along in the scam that was Enron, and those same guys, will plunder and plunder again, becuase they are the smartest people in the room.

Else you're going to have to make the US another way to keep it a place to invest and use your currency, and with that it means keynesian money pumping government works, and that wont go with a repub congress blocking, filibustering and shutting down government in some states and the alternative is "austerity" which Greece tried... and lost 35% of its economy by.
getting rid of the student bubble would be a giant relief but i think is suggesting the wrong tools for the wrong time, he'd probably been a better president than bill clinton in that time on that aspect, but i think a businessman who probably knows all the backdoors has a sound plan.

And don't compare Trump to Hitler please, compare Trump to Roosevelt instead becuase these would be very similar times, with radical solutions

"Herbert Hoover had already considered a bank holiday to prevent further bank runs, but rejected the idea because he was afraid to trip a panic. Roosevelt, however, gave a radio address, held in the atmosphere of a Fireside Chat, and explained to the public in simple terms the causes of the banking crisis, what the government will do and how the population could help. He closed all the banks in the country and kept them all closed until he could pass new legislation.[41]"

That's to say though, giant misfure for intending to just use word "muslim" instead of being specific like Salafist or Wahhabi, think he forgets, that as an result of counterculture, the people who grew up under bush, and his neo-con shit, that post 9-11 america followed blindly on the warpath, and now see the results, and don't want anything to do with it anymore, and Americans are in it for the underdog, and geniunely believe in the idea of no prefixes American, that just bringing it up, and sounding real close back to those days, take it up for the underdog, that wants to be American right, and there are countless muslim patriots, like mohammed Ali, who's religion never seemed to be an issue, but still enough americans see that the "close ally" Saudi Arabia, is a fucking hellhole, which you btw can't enter if you aren't Muslim btw (mecca itself I mean) and don't want to fight their dirty wars.
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CondescendingCandlestickbut the house and the senate will almost certainly go blue

in what dream world would this happen

[quote=CondescendingCandlestick][b]but the house[/b] and the senate [b]will almost certainly go blue[/b][/quote]
in what dream world would this happen
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"Did Bernie ever threaten to run independent if clinton got the nomination"

he said he wouldn't because he feels the GOP would be too damaging to the country or smth

"Did Bernie ever threaten to run independent if clinton got the nomination"

he said he wouldn't because he feels the GOP would be too damaging to the country or smth
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You guys have to remember that although Trump and some other Candidates may have some "crazy" ideas, the United States is not a dictatorship. Banning Muslims will never happen in this country. Keeping more of a watchful eye on them might happen. It's a 3 branch system of government. Because Trump wants to do this doesn't mean that will actually ever happen (if he was elected) it would need approval from Congress (House and Senate).

It's a fact that some Mosques have been breading grounds for Terrorists. France has already taken action and is closing some of the extremist Mosques that are proven to be encouraging radical Islam.

I do support the majority of Trumps policies though, but the Muslim one is a bit extreme. I fully support securing the US-Mexico Border and actually doing something about ISIS, our current president is unwilling to do anything but make bogus statements about them and their beliefs.

You guys have to remember that although Trump and some other Candidates may have some "crazy" ideas, the United States is not a dictatorship. Banning Muslims will never happen in this country. Keeping more of a watchful eye on them might happen. It's a 3 branch system of government. Because Trump wants to do this doesn't mean that will actually ever happen (if he was elected) it would need approval from Congress (House and Senate).

It's a fact that some Mosques have been breading grounds for Terrorists. France has already taken action and is closing some of the extremist Mosques that are proven to be encouraging radical Islam.

I do support the majority of Trumps policies though, but the Muslim one is a bit extreme. I fully support securing the US-Mexico Border and actually doing something about ISIS, our current president is unwilling to do anything but make bogus statements about them and their beliefs.
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Donald Trump may be a goofball. And saying that all muslims are bad isn't a good thing and is wrong. BUT sayingn no muslims in my country makes me feel much safer and it sure as hell gets rid of a lot of domestic terrorism problems for a while

What's the alternative? "Interviewing" people and having them rely on their integrity and honor to not lie and forge their papers? Remember that shooting a few days ago? Yeah that's what happened

Donald Trump may be a goofball. And saying that all muslims are bad isn't a good thing and is wrong. BUT sayingn no muslims in my country makes me feel much safer and it sure as hell gets rid of a lot of domestic terrorism problems for a while

What's the alternative? "Interviewing" people and having them rely on their integrity and honor to not lie and forge their papers? Remember that shooting a few days ago? Yeah that's what happened
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Red_Donald Trump may be a goofball. And saying that all muslims are bad isn't a good thing and is wrong. BUT sayingn no muslims in my country makes me feel much safer and it sure as hell gets rid of a lot of domestic terrorism problems for a while

http://qpolitical.com/someone-said-muslims-bad-woman-delivers-amazing-response/

Check out this video. Most Muslims are non-extremists, just like most Germans during WWII were not Nazi's and opposed the mass genocide of the Jews. The TLDW point of that video is that "The overwhelming majority is irrelevant" and that it is the extremists that are the ones we need to watch out for.

The biggest question is how do we distinguish the difference between a radical Muslim and a moderate? Do we wait until they commit a crime to determine their beliefs? Is there a way we can prevent terrorism while still allowing freedom of religion?

[quote=Red_]Donald Trump may be a goofball. And saying that all muslims are bad isn't a good thing and is wrong. BUT sayingn no muslims in my country makes me feel much safer and it sure as hell gets rid of a lot of domestic terrorism problems for a while[/quote]

http://qpolitical.com/someone-said-muslims-bad-woman-delivers-amazing-response/

Check out this video. Most Muslims are non-extremists, just like most Germans during WWII were not Nazi's and opposed the mass genocide of the Jews. The TLDW point of that video is that "The overwhelming majority is irrelevant" and that it is the extremists that are the ones we need to watch out for.

The biggest question is how do we distinguish the difference between a radical Muslim and a moderate? Do we wait until they commit a crime to determine their beliefs? Is there a way we can prevent terrorism while still allowing freedom of religion?
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dollarlayerRed_Donald Trump may be a goofball. And saying that all muslims are bad isn't a good thing and is wrong. BUT sayingn no muslims in my country makes me feel much safer and it sure as hell gets rid of a lot of domestic terrorism problems for a while
http://qpolitical.com/someone-said-muslims-bad-woman-delivers-amazing-response/

Check out this video. Most Muslims are non-extremists, just like most Germans during WWII were not Nazi's and opposed the mass genocide of the Jews. The TLDW point of that video is that "The overwhelming majority is irrelevant" and that it is the extremists that are the ones we need to watch out for.

The biggest question is how do we distinguish the difference between a radical Muslim and a moderate? Do we wait until they commit a crime to determine their beliefs? Is there a way we can prevent terrorism while still allowing freedom of religion?

It doesn't matter if MOST aren't extremist which is true. What does matter is national security by letting muslims in even if only 1% of them come with malintent and this gets rid of that problem

[quote=dollarlayer][quote=Red_]Donald Trump may be a goofball. And saying that all muslims are bad isn't a good thing and is wrong. BUT sayingn no muslims in my country makes me feel much safer and it sure as hell gets rid of a lot of domestic terrorism problems for a while[/quote]

http://qpolitical.com/someone-said-muslims-bad-woman-delivers-amazing-response/

Check out this video. Most Muslims are non-extremists, just like most Germans during WWII were not Nazi's and opposed the mass genocide of the Jews. The TLDW point of that video is that "The overwhelming majority is irrelevant" and that it is the extremists that are the ones we need to watch out for.

The biggest question is how do we distinguish the difference between a radical Muslim and a moderate? Do we wait until they commit a crime to determine their beliefs? Is there a way we can prevent terrorism while still allowing freedom of religion?[/quote]

It doesn't matter if MOST aren't extremist which is true. What does matter is national security by letting muslims in even if only 1% of them come with malintent and this gets rid of that problem
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Red_dollarlayerRed_Donald Trump may be a goofball. And saying that all muslims are bad isn't a good thing and is wrong. BUT sayingn no muslims in my country makes me feel much safer and it sure as hell gets rid of a lot of domestic terrorism problems for a while
http://qpolitical.com/someone-said-muslims-bad-woman-delivers-amazing-response/

Check out this video. Most Muslims are non-extremists, just like most Germans during WWII were not Nazi's and opposed the mass genocide of the Jews. The TLDW point of that video is that "The overwhelming majority is irrelevant" and that it is the extremists that are the ones we need to watch out for.

The biggest question is how do we distinguish the difference between a radical Muslim and a moderate? Do we wait until they commit a crime to determine their beliefs? Is there a way we can prevent terrorism while still allowing freedom of religion?

It doesn't matter if MOST aren't extremist which is true. What does matter is national security by letting muslims in even if only 1% of them come with malintent and this gets rid of that problem

1.6 Billion Muslims in the world

if 1% are extremists that = 16 Million ppl to track and keep out of our country. Essentially a staggering amount of people and only saying 1% are extremists is is low number by a lot of accounts.

[quote=Red_][quote=dollarlayer][quote=Red_]Donald Trump may be a goofball. And saying that all muslims are bad isn't a good thing and is wrong. BUT sayingn no muslims in my country makes me feel much safer and it sure as hell gets rid of a lot of domestic terrorism problems for a while[/quote]

http://qpolitical.com/someone-said-muslims-bad-woman-delivers-amazing-response/

Check out this video. Most Muslims are non-extremists, just like most Germans during WWII were not Nazi's and opposed the mass genocide of the Jews. The TLDW point of that video is that "The overwhelming majority is irrelevant" and that it is the extremists that are the ones we need to watch out for.

The biggest question is how do we distinguish the difference between a radical Muslim and a moderate? Do we wait until they commit a crime to determine their beliefs? Is there a way we can prevent terrorism while still allowing freedom of religion?[/quote]

It doesn't matter if MOST aren't extremist which is true. What does matter is national security by letting muslims in even if only 1% of them come with malintent and this gets rid of that problem[/quote]

1.6 Billion Muslims in the world

if 1% are extremists that = 16 Million ppl to track and keep out of our country. Essentially a staggering amount of people and only saying 1% are extremists is is low number by a lot of accounts.
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What's your point? The same rule still applies completely. Keep em out. Problems much easier to fix

What's your point? The same rule still applies completely. Keep em out. Problems much easier to fix
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Red_What's your point? The same rule still applies completely. Keep em out. Problems much easier to fix

agreeing with you, just throwing some math out there

[quote=Red_]What's your point? The same rule still applies completely. Keep em out. Problems much easier to fix[/quote]

agreeing with you, just throwing some math out there
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1_eb08oocA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1_eb08oocA
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Alright we're cool haha

Alright we're cool haha
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avast 2016

avast 2016
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AvastI think we should not let any immigrants of any nation or religion come here because there's a chance they could commit crime because how can we be sure they won't commit a crime in the future we should keep all immigrants out.

Lets close all our borders immediately.

That's extremely ignorant and sarcastic. Tell me when is the last time anyone of any other nationality murdered hundreds on the grounds of religion in multiple cases? That's the truth and there is no way around it

[quote=Avast]I think we should not let any immigrants of any nation or religion come here because there's a chance they could commit crime because how can we be sure they won't commit a crime in the future we should keep all immigrants out.

Lets close all our borders immediately.[/quote]

That's extremely ignorant and sarcastic. Tell me when is the last time anyone of any other nationality murdered hundreds on the grounds of religion in multiple cases? That's the truth and there is no way around it
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hooliavast 2016

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[quote=hooli]avast 2016[/quote]

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If ur saying islam is silly because its a religion fine, but if you think islam is silly and other religions are not well then yeah ur kinda an asshole.

If ur saying islam is silly because its a religion fine, but if you think islam is silly and other religions are not well then yeah ur kinda an asshole.
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Red_AvastI think we should not let any immigrants of any nation or religion come here because there's a chance they could commit crime because how can we be sure they won't commit a crime in the future we should keep all immigrants out.

Lets close all our borders immediately.

That's extremely ignorant and sarcastic. Tell me when is the last time anyone of any other nationality murdered hundreds on the grounds of religion in multiple cases? That's the truth and there is no way around it

Yep its a big problem. Do a search on any other religion and the terrorist attack list is small or non-existent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

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The Quran also condones violence, especially against non-believers. I'll provide several verse examples taken directly from the Quran.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."

I don't know how any Muslim believer could possibly discount these verses and say that they are not encouraged to be violent. If they are true believers of the Quran then they will fight and attack non believers.

[quote=Red_][quote=Avast]I think we should not let any immigrants of any nation or religion come here because there's a chance they could commit crime because how can we be sure they won't commit a crime in the future we should keep all immigrants out.

Lets close all our borders immediately.[/quote]

That's extremely ignorant and sarcastic. Tell me when is the last time anyone of any other nationality murdered hundreds on the grounds of religion in multiple cases? That's the truth and there is no way around it[/quote]

Yep its a big problem. Do a search on any other religion and the terrorist attack list is small or non-existent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

-------------------------

The Quran also condones violence, especially against non-believers. I'll provide several verse examples taken directly from the Quran.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."

I don't know how any Muslim believer could possibly discount these verses and say that they are not encouraged to be violent. If they are true believers of the Quran then they will fight and attack non believers.
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Signal harder Avast

Signal harder Avast
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Red_AvastI think we should not let any immigrants of any nation or religion come here because there's a chance they could commit crime because how can we be sure they won't commit a crime in the future we should keep all immigrants out.

Lets close all our borders immediately.

That's extremely ignorant and sarcastic. Tell me when is the last time anyone of any other nationality murdered hundreds on the grounds of religion in multiple cases? That's the truth and there is no way around it

First of all Islam is not a nationality, unless you're talking about Syrians in which case you would still be wrong as the passport found on "Ahmad Almohammad" after the Paris attacks was not real, it belonged to a soldier who had died in Syria.

Secondly, referring to religious groups murdering hundreds of people while not being Muslim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(United_States)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army

[quote=Red_][quote=Avast]I think we should not let any immigrants of any nation or religion come here because there's a chance they could commit crime because how can we be sure they won't commit a crime in the future we should keep all immigrants out.

Lets close all our borders immediately.[/quote]

That's extremely ignorant and sarcastic. Tell me when is the last time anyone of any other nationality murdered hundreds on the grounds of religion in multiple cases? That's the truth and there is no way around it[/quote]

First of all Islam is not a nationality, unless you're talking about Syrians in which case you would still be wrong as the passport found on "Ahmad Almohammad" after the Paris attacks was not real, it belonged to a soldier who had died in Syria.

Secondly, referring to religious groups murdering hundreds of people while not being Muslim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(United_States)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army
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AvastRed_AvastI think we should not let any immigrants of any nation or religion come here because there's a chance they could commit crime because how can we be sure they won't commit a crime in the future we should keep all immigrants out.

Lets close all our borders immediately.

That's extremely ignorant and sarcastic. Tell me when is the last time anyone of any other nationality murdered hundreds on the grounds of religion in multiple cases? That's the truth and there is no way around it

First of all Islam is not a nationality, unless you're talking about Syrians in which case you would still be wrong the as the passport found on "Ahmad Almohammad" after the Paris attacks was not real, it belonged to a soldier who had died in Syria.

Secondly referring to religious groups murdering hundreds of people while not being Muslim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(United_States)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army

KKK is a religious group interesting....

Please find me a list even 1/10th as long as the Islamic Terrorist extremist list posted above by any other religion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

Also please find actual religious writings which support terrorism of these other religions. I posted several verses from the Quaran above.

[quote=Avast][quote=Red_][quote=Avast]I think we should not let any immigrants of any nation or religion come here because there's a chance they could commit crime because how can we be sure they won't commit a crime in the future we should keep all immigrants out.

Lets close all our borders immediately.[/quote]

That's extremely ignorant and sarcastic. Tell me when is the last time anyone of any other nationality murdered hundreds on the grounds of religion in multiple cases? That's the truth and there is no way around it[/quote]

First of all Islam is not a nationality, unless you're talking about Syrians in which case you would still be wrong the as the passport found on "Ahmad Almohammad" after the Paris attacks was not real, it belonged to a soldier who had died in Syria.

Secondly referring to religious groups murdering hundreds of people while not being Muslim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(United_States)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army[/quote]

KKK is a religious group interesting....

Please find me a list even 1/10th as long as the Islamic Terrorist extremist list posted above by any other religion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

Also please find actual religious writings which support terrorism of these other religions. I posted several verses from the Quaran above.
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dollarlayerAvastRed_AvastI think we should not let any immigrants of any nation or religion come here because there's a chance they could commit crime because how can we be sure they won't commit a crime in the future we should keep all immigrants out.

Lets close all our borders immediately.

That's extremely ignorant and sarcastic. Tell me when is the last time anyone of any other nationality murdered hundreds on the grounds of religion in multiple cases? That's the truth and there is no way around it

First of all Islam is not a nationality, unless you're talking about Syrians in which case you would still be wrong the as the passport found on "Ahmad Almohammad" after the Paris attacks was not real, it belonged to a soldier who had died in Syria.

Secondly referring to religious groups murdering hundreds of people while not being Muslim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(United_States)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army

KKK is a religious group interesting....

Please find me a list even 1/10th as long as the Islamic Terrorist extremist list posted above by any other religion.

It depends, does use of Christianity to support enslavement and slaughter of Africans and Native Americans over about 500 years count as terrorism?

Or does it only apply to proper civilized nations like us.

[quote=dollarlayer][quote=Avast][quote=Red_][quote=Avast]I think we should not let any immigrants of any nation or religion come here because there's a chance they could commit crime because how can we be sure they won't commit a crime in the future we should keep all immigrants out.

Lets close all our borders immediately.[/quote]

That's extremely ignorant and sarcastic. Tell me when is the last time anyone of any other nationality murdered hundreds on the grounds of religion in multiple cases? That's the truth and there is no way around it[/quote]

First of all Islam is not a nationality, unless you're talking about Syrians in which case you would still be wrong the as the passport found on "Ahmad Almohammad" after the Paris attacks was not real, it belonged to a soldier who had died in Syria.

Secondly referring to religious groups murdering hundreds of people while not being Muslim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(United_States)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army[/quote]

KKK is a religious group interesting....

Please find me a list even 1/10th as long as the Islamic Terrorist extremist list posted above by any other religion.[/quote]

It depends, does use of Christianity to support enslavement and slaughter of Africans and Native Americans over about 500 years count as terrorism?

Or does it only apply to proper civilized nations like us.
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Dudes I'm saying muslims shouldn't be allowed in the US and they're easily by a MASSIve margin the leaders in religious killings. Dollarlayer we are generally on the same page but avast my friend you are arguing uphill against stats

Dudes I'm saying muslims shouldn't be allowed in the US and they're easily by a MASSIve margin the leaders in religious killings. Dollarlayer we are generally on the same page but avast my friend you are arguing uphill against stats
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AvastIt depends, does use of Christianity to support enslavement and slaughter of Africans and Native Americans over about 500 years count as terrorism? Or does it only apply to proper civilized nations like us.

Does the Bible directly condone this type of activity in the same way the Quaran directly condones attacking non-believers. I don't think so.

Secondly, you are pulling up examples from hundreds of years ago. Do you have any modern 21st century equivalents from other religions that are so heavily involved in terrorism besides radical Islam?

[quote=Avast]It depends, does use of Christianity to support enslavement and slaughter of Africans and Native Americans over about 500 years count as terrorism? Or does it only apply to proper civilized nations like us.[/quote]

Does the Bible directly condone this type of activity in the same way the Quaran directly condones attacking non-believers. I don't think so.

Secondly, you are pulling up examples from hundreds of years ago. Do you have any modern 21st century equivalents from other religions that are so heavily involved in terrorism besides radical Islam?
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35% of Palestinians have a favorable opinion of Al Qeada.
http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

1 in eight Muslims worldwide has a favorable view of al Quaeda.
http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

1 in 3 Muslims favorably views Hamas, a known terrorist organization.
http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

25% of Egyptian Muslims support terrorist attacks to enforce Shariah law.
http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

65% of European Muslims believe that Shariah law is more important than the law of the country they reside in.
https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

European Muslims are 7.5x more likely to be fundamentalists than Christians.
https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

45% of European Muslims believe that Jews cannot be trusted.
https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

60% of European Muslims are explicitly homphobic. This is not due to poverty or education.
https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

78% of Egyptians support attacks on US soldiers in the Middle East.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

62% of Palestinians support the use of suicide bombings.
http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

38% of Muslims believe 9/11 was partially or wholly justified.
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/just-like-us-really

35% of Palestinians have a favorable opinion of Al Qeada.
http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

1 in eight Muslims worldwide has a favorable view of al Quaeda.
http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

1 in 3 Muslims favorably views Hamas, a known terrorist organization.
http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

25% of Egyptian Muslims support terrorist attacks to enforce Shariah law.
http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

65% of European Muslims believe that Shariah law is more important than the law of the country they reside in.
https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

European Muslims are 7.5x more likely to be fundamentalists than Christians.
https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

45% of European Muslims believe that Jews cannot be trusted.
https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

60% of European Muslims are explicitly homphobic. This is not due to poverty or education.
https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

78% of Egyptians support attacks on US soldiers in the Middle East.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

62% of Palestinians support the use of suicide bombings.
http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

38% of Muslims believe 9/11 was partially or wholly justified.
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/just-like-us-really
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AvastdollarlayerAvastIt depends, does use of Christianity to support enslavement and slaughter of Africans and Native Americans over about 500 years count as terrorism? Or does it only apply to proper civilized nations like us.
Does the Bible directly condone this type of activity in the same way the Quaran directly condones attacking non-believers. I don't think so.

Secondly, you are pulling up examples from hundreds of years ago. Do you have any modern 21st century equivalents from other religions that are so heavily involved in terrorism besides radical Islam?

Make ready to slaughter the infidel’s sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and possess the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21)

Then I heard God say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.” (Ezekiel 9:5)

Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

I too love me some violent similarities between all Abrahamic religions.

Can't those religions just stay in their respective part of the world?

[quote=Avast][quote=dollarlayer][quote=Avast]It depends, does use of Christianity to support enslavement and slaughter of Africans and Native Americans over about 500 years count as terrorism? Or does it only apply to proper civilized nations like us.[/quote]

Does the Bible directly condone this type of activity in the same way the Quaran directly condones attacking non-believers. I don't think so.

Secondly, you are pulling up examples from hundreds of years ago. Do you have any modern 21st century equivalents from other religions that are so heavily involved in terrorism besides radical Islam?[/quote]

Make ready to slaughter the infidel’s sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and possess the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21)

Then I heard God say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.” (Ezekiel 9:5)

Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

I too love me some violent similarities between all Abrahamic religions.[/quote]

Can't those religions just stay in their respective part of the world?
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