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Hey, I've recently started playing Teamfortress 2 more than I used to (I usually stick with old 1v1 games like Rocket Arena and Quake) so I've gone to MGE servers to have fun. But a couple times when I beat players they just tell me that I'm using a crutch weapon. (the original)

I get that there's some complicated MGE etiquette that people will bitch at me if I don't follow, but is not using the original really part of it?

Hey, I've recently started playing Teamfortress 2 more than I used to (I usually stick with old 1v1 games like Rocket Arena and Quake) so I've gone to MGE servers to have fun. But a couple times when I beat players they just tell me that I'm using a crutch weapon. (the original)

I get that there's some complicated MGE etiquette that people will bitch at me if I don't follow, but is not using the original really part of it?
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#2
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It's not. Ignore them, they're stupid.

It's not. Ignore them, they're stupid.
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cp_granary_pro
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no

no
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#4
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no

no
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#5
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people have johns in every game

people have johns in every game
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#6
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the original only changes where the rocket shoots from
it makes no difference in mge really

the original only changes where the rocket shoots from
it makes no difference in mge really
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#7
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nay

nay
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#8
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whoever is getting beaten so badly in mge that they have to declare that the original is a crutch is the worst player i have ever heard of

whoever is getting beaten so badly in mge that they have to declare that the original is a crutch is the worst player i have ever heard of
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#9
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only fraggers use original

only fraggers use original
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#10
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use whatever you want man people just get bare salty when they lose on mge

use whatever you want man people just get bare salty when they lose on mge
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the only part of the original i think is broken (lets not be retarded and take this as a statement of me saying the original is actually op) is the fact that it has a goddamn silencer. if you have music on GL hearing the RJ

only true advantage to original is a few spam spots that dont work w/ vanilla (blands battlements, metalworks 2nd on that little ledge thing below window are two that come to mind). but with vanilla you can shoot around corners to your left without even peeking so that's pretty neat.

the only part of the original i think is broken (lets not be retarded and take this as a statement of me saying the original is actually op) is the fact that it has a goddamn silencer. if you have music on GL hearing the RJ

only true advantage to original is a few spam spots that dont work w/ vanilla (blands battlements, metalworks 2nd on that little ledge thing below window are two that come to mind). but with vanilla you can shoot around corners to your left without even peeking so that's pretty neat.
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Hey, I've recently started playing Teamfortress 2 more than I used to

we grow

[code]Hey, I've recently started playing Teamfortress 2 more than I used to[/code]
we grow
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industIt's not. Ignore them, they're stupid.

indust you should really pay your multiple debts to several tf2 community members off bro. we haven't forgotten.

[quote=indust]It's not. Ignore them, they're stupid.[/quote]

indust you should really pay your multiple debts to several tf2 community members off bro. we haven't forgotten.
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The person who elevated the original to 'johns' status is most likely Seagull.

https://youtu.be/3x3Ur--3kA4

The person who elevated the original to 'johns' status is most likely Seagull.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/3x3Ur--3kA4[/youtube]
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marmadukeGRYLLSthe only part of the original i think is broken (lets not be retarded and take this as a statement of me saying the original is actually op) is the fact that it has a goddamn silencer. if you have music on GL hearing the RJ

In like 2011 i mained pyro and the original came out and i hated the thing because i couldn't ever hear it, and i used sound cues to reflect stuff instead of visual (did you know your brain reacts to sound faster than sight?)

these days it's more like, in order to hear comms over a revved heavy at all, my mumble needs to be so loud that it masks original shots extremely well.

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]the only part of the original i think is broken (lets not be retarded and take this as a statement of me saying the original is actually op) is the fact that it has a goddamn silencer. if you have music on GL hearing the RJ[/quote]

In like 2011 i mained pyro and the original came out and i hated the thing because i couldn't ever hear it, and i used sound cues to reflect stuff instead of visual (did you know your brain reacts to sound faster than sight?)

these days it's more like, in order to hear comms over a revved heavy at all, my mumble needs to be so loud that it masks original shots extremely well.
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sildeezyMost people who MGE are painfully oblivious to how the other person is playing. They love bitching about how they THINK the other person is playing though.

Just don't play passive and you'll probably get better/have fun.
swagmachinealways hated mge because of these unwritten "rules". or maybe its just because im awful at it.tonmashud_saytext_time 0

the only way to play mge
ILLEGALELEPHANTGUNanyone complaining about how you kill them is upset that you killed them

This is the advice I got in a similar thread.

[quote=sildeezy]Most people who MGE are painfully oblivious to how the other person is playing. They love bitching about how they THINK the other person is playing though.

Just don't play passive and you'll probably get better/have fun.[/quote]
[quote=swagmachine]always hated mge because of these unwritten "rules". or maybe its just because im awful at it.[/quote]
[quote=tonmas]hud_saytext_time 0

the only way to play mge[/quote]
[quote=ILLEGALELEPHANTGUN]anyone complaining about how you kill them is upset that you killed them[/quote]
This is the advice I got in a [url=http://teamfortress.tv/post/415442/is-lamering-a-thing]similar thread[/url].
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#17
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original is stronger than stock rocket launcher in mge.

stock rocket launcher is better for horizontal jumps, and you can abuse some corners with it.
original is better for vertical rj's (very slight) and is easier to aim because you don't have to compensate for right side (its simply and logically the truth)

now you won't see me crying about it in mge (that's just retarded), but I can kind of understand how it can be called a crutch. you need more finesse with the stock rocket launcher.

original is stronger than stock rocket launcher in mge.

stock rocket launcher is better for horizontal jumps, and you can abuse some corners with it.
original is better for vertical rj's (very slight) and is easier to aim because you don't have to compensate for right side (its simply and logically the truth)

now you won't see me crying about it in mge (that's just retarded), but I can kind of understand how it can be called a crutch. you need more finesse with the stock rocket launcher.
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What about the Direct Hit? Isn't it even better for dueling?

What about the Direct Hit? Isn't it even better for dueling?
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GravityHey, I've recently started playing Teamfortress 2 more than I used to (I usually stick with old 1v1 games like Rocket Arena and Quake) so I've gone to MGE servers to have fun. But a couple times when I beat players they just tell me that I'm using a crutch weapon. (the original)

I get that there's some complicated MGE etiquette that people will bitch at me if I don't follow, but is not using the original really part of it?

I don't think they know what a 'crutch' is......

The Original has almost no advantages in MGE besides one of 'those' spots, like the crack on badlands spire. I even do worse on the original, and prefer the normal launcher. An actual crutch would be the Direct Hit, since it can make up for bad projectile prediction.

These guys are dumb, I've never heard anybody say that to me ever when I used to use the original.
maybeididn'trekthemhardenough

[quote=Gravity]Hey, I've recently started playing Teamfortress 2 more than I used to (I usually stick with old 1v1 games like Rocket Arena and Quake) so I've gone to MGE servers to have fun. But a couple times when I beat players they just tell me that I'm using a crutch weapon. (the original)

I get that there's some complicated MGE etiquette that people will bitch at me if I don't follow, but is not using the original really part of it?[/quote]

I don't think they know what a 'crutch' is......

The Original has almost no advantages in MGE besides one of 'those' spots, like the crack on badlands spire. I even do worse on the original, and prefer the normal launcher. An actual crutch would be the Direct Hit, since it can make up for bad projectile prediction.

These guys are dumb, I've never heard anybody say that to me ever when I used to use the original.
[s]maybeididn'trekthemhardenough[/s]
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Well some people plays MGE for ranks/stats and winning, instead of getting better & practicing. If they loose, they often blames the opponent for doing something wrong/getting lucky. Best would be to have friends you can play MGE with, if you don't have any, you should be able to find some nice guys from different mge servers you could add and ask to play with you when you feel so.

Well some people plays MGE for ranks/stats and winning, instead of getting better & practicing. If they loose, they often blames the opponent for doing something wrong/getting lucky. Best would be to have friends you can play MGE with, if you don't have any, you should be able to find some nice guys from different mge servers you could add and ask to play with you when you feel so.
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