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#1
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You enter a room where 2 other players are currently fighting a 1v1. When you enter, Player Joe has his back to you and Player Bob is facing you. Both are currently shooting hitscan weapons. The distance is mid-close range (relatively small room). Which player would YOU shoot first?
https://strawpoll.com/hqc6cpyhj

Which would be the "correct" player to shoot first?
And why?

This post is not meant to be an argument. This is just to get some ideas, perspectives and reasoning. Feel free to discuss different games but try to keep the general scenario the same.

EDIT: both players are on enemy teams, consider this a situation for general shooters (thnx Mak)

You enter a room where 2 other players are currently fighting a 1v1. When you enter, Player Joe has his back to you and Player Bob is facing you. Both are currently shooting hitscan weapons. The distance is mid-close range (relatively small room). Which player would YOU shoot first?
https://strawpoll.com/hqc6cpyhj

Which would be the "correct" player to shoot first?
And why?

This post is not meant to be an argument. This is just to get some ideas, perspectives and reasoning. Feel free to discuss different games but try to keep the general scenario the same.


EDIT: both players are on enemy teams, consider this a situation for general shooters (thnx Mak)
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#2
38 Frags +

??? tf2 has no FFA mode bro, unless this is a question for general shooter practises lol.

??? tf2 has no FFA mode bro, unless this is a question for general shooter practises lol.
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#3
67 Frags +

myself

myself
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#4
-7 Frags +

Do I know their HP? If so, shoot the weakest.

If I don't then shoot the closest.

Player that sees you, you should assume you've been seen and called out anyway so taking a "surprise" shot isn't really a surprise shot. You just ate bait if you don't kill one or the other.

i forgot to troll, just shoot your fucken self u nerd

Do I know their HP? If so, shoot the weakest.

If I don't then shoot the closest.

Player that sees you, you should assume you've been seen and called out anyway so taking a "surprise" shot isn't really a surprise shot. You just ate bait if you don't kill one or the other.


i forgot to troll, just shoot your fucken self u nerd
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#5
6 Frags +

it doesnt matter who i shoot first because im gonna kill them both........

it doesnt matter who i shoot first because im gonna kill them both........
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#6
31 Frags +

rocket jump away and let my entire team die

rocket jump away and let my entire team die
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#7
4 Frags +

Bob has the Machina fully charged aimed at your head. (long-range)
Joe has the pistol aimed at your chest (point blank)

Which player would YOU shoot first?

Which player is the "correct" player to shoot first?
And why?

(keep in mind it is a relatively small room...as big as the training stage in street fighter)

Bob has the Machina fully charged aimed at your head. (long-range)
Joe has the pistol aimed at your chest (point blank)

Which player would YOU shoot first?

Which player is the "correct" player to shoot first?
And why?

(keep in mind it is a relatively small room...as big as the training stage in street fighter)
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#8
51 Frags +

neither. allow the superior duelist to inevitably emerge victorious and then breed him with the winners of other 1v1's. repeat this indefinitely across many generations until you've artificially selected for traits that result in complete MGE dominance. proceed to populate all available duel servers with your new race of hyper virginized super autists ensuring that no mere mortal will ever be permitted to win add 4 and 5 again

neither. allow the superior duelist to inevitably emerge victorious and then breed him with the winners of other 1v1's. repeat this indefinitely across many generations until you've artificially selected for traits that result in complete MGE dominance. proceed to populate all available duel servers with your new race of hyper virginized super autists ensuring that no mere mortal will ever be permitted to win add 4 and 5 again
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#9
0 Frags +

this is a dumb hypothetical just kill them or die

this is a dumb hypothetical just kill them or die
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#10
14 Frags +

I'd shoot Toby twice

I'd shoot Toby twice
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#11
-1 Frags +

If its SOAP DM i wait until they've both weakened themselves from fighting and then i'll kill them both so then at the end of the round instead of practicing and getting better i'll be on top of the leaderboard :)

If its SOAP DM i wait until they've both weakened themselves from fighting and then i'll kill them both so then at the end of the round instead of practicing and getting better i'll be on top of the leaderboard :)
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#12
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The girl reading this.

The girl reading this.
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#13
-2 Frags +

Aim at the person who you think is weaker/losing, because if you want both frags, you need to kill that person before the winning player does. Once you kill the weak player (hopefully with a 5dmg shot) you get the buff and can frag both of them.

Aim at the person who you think is weaker/losing, because if you want both frags, you need to kill that person before the winning player does. Once you kill the weak player (hopefully with a 5dmg shot) you get the buff and can frag both of them.
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#14
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in battle royales this scenario is probably common (being "3rd partied" is what they call it?) and afaik in 99% of scenarios the team/person sandwiched from behind is focused because those are free kills and then favour the newest opponent because the survivors of the initial 1v1 have to invest time and resources into healing back up

If you're fishing for the argument "The player who sees you has a higher chance of preparing to win the second 1v1" then I feel that's quite niche unless you look at gamemodes where time to kill is extremely low like ffa cs:go gamemodes or CoD so there's more variance with odds of a clutch flick headshot. And even there you're still favoured to win so I'd say it doesn't matter much

In TF2 I doubt it matters. I'd wait like a second so maybe they shoot each other investing more hp and ammo into the 1v1, then get an easy kill on whoever survives.
Or just shoot the guy in the back, then wm1 at the dude who saw you but has low ammo and hp now so you're still highly favoured. There's always the chance of someone magically clutching a 1v2, yes. But believe in yourself. Just don't miss 3 meatshots on the person not looking at you

in battle royales this scenario is probably common (being "3rd partied" is what they call it?) and afaik in 99% of scenarios the team/person sandwiched from behind is focused because those are free kills and then favour the newest opponent because the survivors of the initial 1v1 have to invest time and resources into healing back up

If you're fishing for the argument "The player who sees you has a higher chance of preparing to win the second 1v1" then I feel that's quite niche unless you look at gamemodes where time to kill is extremely low like ffa cs:go gamemodes or CoD so there's more variance with odds of a clutch flick headshot. And even there you're still favoured to win so I'd say it doesn't matter much

In TF2 I doubt it matters. I'd wait like a second so maybe they shoot each other investing more hp and ammo into the 1v1, then get an easy kill on whoever survives.
Or just shoot the guy in the back, then wm1 at the dude who saw you but has low ammo and hp now so you're still highly favoured. There's always the chance of someone magically clutching a 1v2, yes. But believe in yourself. Just don't miss 3 meatshots on the person not looking at you
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#15
2 Frags +

I really don't understand this question.

I really don't understand this question.
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#16
-1 Frags +

If same classes/type of weapons I will let them finish.

If same classes/type of weapons I will let them finish.
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#17
1 Frags +

I'd break up the fight, people shouldn't be beating each other, we're all in this together friends <3
Stay wholesome

I'd break up the fight, people shouldn't be beating each other, we're all in this together friends <3
Stay wholesome
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#18
21 Frags +

i shoot the creator of "WutVille"

i shoot the creator of "WutVille"
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#19
-1 Frags +
grammyYou enter a room where 2 other players are currently fighting a 1v1. When you enter, Player Joe has his back to you and Player Bob is facing you. Both are currently shooting hitscan weapons. The distance is mid-close range (relatively small room). Which player would YOU shoot first?
https://strawpoll.com/hqc6cpyhj

Which would be the "correct" player to shoot first?
And why?
EDIT: both players are on enemy teams, consider this a situation for general shooters (thnx Mak)

This sounded fun to dissect, so I will give an honest answer.

In this scenario, you don't indicate there are any larger team oriented goals so I am going to assume this is just a general FFA fight, either live or die situation. If team goals are factored in, the answer could be different.

The only choice is to first shoot the enemy who is currently looking at you, in this case "Player Bob". He is the highest threat because he is looking at you. He can react to your presence faster (visually) than Player Joe who cannot see you (sound only).

Additionally, it is highly likely that Joe is also going to shoot at Bob because he is facing Bob's direction. Your combined attack will frag Bob and Joe will still have his back to you. Also, Joe will have a slower reaction time because he still has to orient his aim and turn to face your attack.

You should always have some advantage over Joe because he doesn't face you but things between you and Bob are fairly even, he is the larger threat.

[quote=grammy]You enter a room where 2 other players are currently fighting a 1v1. When you enter, Player Joe has his back to you and Player Bob is facing you. Both are currently shooting hitscan weapons. The distance is mid-close range (relatively small room). Which player would YOU shoot first?
https://strawpoll.com/hqc6cpyhj

Which would be the "correct" player to shoot first?
And why?
EDIT: both players are on enemy teams, consider this a situation for general shooters (thnx Mak)[/quote]

This sounded fun to dissect, so I will give an honest answer.

In this scenario, you don't indicate there are any larger team oriented goals so I am going to assume this is just a general FFA fight, either live or die situation. If team goals are factored in, the answer could be different.

The only choice is to first shoot the enemy who is currently looking at you, in this case "Player Bob". He is the highest threat because he is looking at you. He can react to your presence faster (visually) than Player Joe who cannot see you (sound only).

Additionally, it is highly likely that Joe is also going to shoot at Bob because he is facing Bob's direction. Your combined attack will frag Bob and Joe will still have his back to you. Also, Joe will have a slower reaction time because he still has to orient his aim and turn to face your attack.

You should always have some advantage over Joe because he doesn't face you but things between you and Bob are fairly even, he is the larger threat.
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#20
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the girl reading this

the girl reading this
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#21
-3 Frags +

i shoot bob because that is a stupid name

i shoot bob because that is a stupid name
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