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exodus/ang/carrot rgl ban issue
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hey all, i'm angie, aka “exodus” or “carrot.” i was put on an indefinite two year ban on rgl due to having leaked the google docs with evidence pertaining to both satan and alfa’s permanent ban. since i was a member of the rgl staff, i had a responsibility to make sure that the documents pertaining to the case remained private, however I did not maintain the standard set for myself and other staff. some people were talking about the satan and alfa perma bans in a private server that I’m in, so I went ahead and posted the google doc knowing the person who reported satan had sent around chat logs and evidence to their friends beforehand, so at the time, I thought what I had done was fine, since the evidence was known to the public to some extent. unfortunately, someone had spread the satan doc in another server, and it remained mostly within top invite highlander circles, with someone having made a pdf of the original documents a bit before it became privated. there had been another rgl staff member who had leaked the alfa situation to a significant part of the 6s community, making the alfa situation more well known far before the perma ban was even issued, however, the staff member had faced no repercussions. so while i admit that what i did was wrong, i do not think that it is fair nor healthy for rgl to hold this type of double standard.

i want it to be known that i condemn what both satan and alfa had done, and this was my motive in sharing the documents. in sharing the document I did not intend to hurt nor mock the victims, but rather i was displaying my discontent with how rgl handled the perma bans without giving any explanation to the community.

i’d also like to add that my own groomer, who i reported on three separate occasions, received no consequence, aside from one formal warning. he continued to stalk me, especially during my time on staff. he is still talking to and potentially harming underage children to this day, while receiving no ban. i consistently expressed my distress and paranoia to staff, making reports, making a document with an extensive amount of screenshots, but nothing was done, i was not protected during my time in the community, and especially on staff, as a whole. to note, rgl preaches the comfort and safety of its community, yet the same rights are seemingly not given to everyone. my point in mentioning this is not to draw superficial sympathy, but rather to bring to light my belief that everyone who has gone through a similar situation deserves to be heard and be compensated appropriately.

while i do wholeheartedly agree with me being removed from staff for violating such a breach of privacy, and maybe even a ban and probation, however, a two year indefinite ban is so much for wanting to essentially expose these animals; the ban I had received is longer than what cheaters receive, and longer than what repeat offenders have if they make racist or homophobic remarks. i'm not sorry for exposing both satan and alfa, however, i am sorry for how i handled the situation.

i hope that at the end of the day, the community can at least somewhat understand where i’m coming from, and i sincerely apologize to the victims i have hurt, and i know that what was done to you was absolutely disgusting, and i hope all gets better. thank you all, and have a lovely rest of your day.

hey all, i'm angie, aka “exodus” or “carrot.” i was put on an indefinite two year ban on rgl due to having leaked the google docs with evidence pertaining to both satan and alfa’s permanent ban. since i was a member of the rgl staff, i had a responsibility to make sure that the documents pertaining to the case remained private, however I did not maintain the standard set for myself and other staff. some people were talking about the satan and alfa perma bans in a private server that I’m in, so I went ahead and posted the google doc knowing the person who reported satan had sent around chat logs and evidence to their friends beforehand, so at the time, I thought what I had done was fine, since the evidence was known to the public to some extent. unfortunately, someone had spread the satan doc in another server, and it remained mostly within top invite highlander circles, with someone having made a pdf of the original documents a bit before it became privated. there had been another rgl staff member who had leaked the alfa situation to a significant part of the 6s community, making the alfa situation more well known far before the perma ban was even issued, however, the staff member had faced no repercussions. so while i admit that what i did was wrong, i do not think that it is fair nor healthy for rgl to hold this type of double standard.

i want it to be known that i condemn what both satan and alfa had done, and this was my motive in sharing the documents. in sharing the document I did not intend to hurt nor mock the victims, but rather i was displaying my discontent with how rgl handled the perma bans without giving any explanation to the community.

i’d also like to add that my own groomer, who i reported on three separate occasions, received no consequence, aside from one formal warning. he continued to stalk me, especially during my time on staff. he is still talking to and potentially harming underage children to this day, while receiving no ban. i consistently expressed my distress and paranoia to staff, making reports, making a document with an extensive amount of screenshots, but nothing was done, i was not protected during my time in the community, and especially on staff, as a whole. to note, rgl preaches the comfort and safety of its community, yet the same rights are seemingly not given to everyone. my point in mentioning this is not to draw superficial sympathy, but rather to bring to light my belief that everyone who has gone through a similar situation deserves to be heard and be compensated appropriately.

while i do wholeheartedly agree with me being removed from staff for violating such a breach of privacy, and maybe even a ban and probation, however, a two year indefinite ban is so much for wanting to essentially expose these animals; the ban I had received is longer than what cheaters receive, and longer than what repeat offenders have if they make racist or homophobic remarks. i'm not sorry for exposing both satan and alfa, however, i am sorry for how i handled the situation.

i hope that at the end of the day, the community can at least somewhat understand where i’m coming from, and i sincerely apologize to the victims i have hurt, and i know that what was done to you was absolutely disgusting, and i hope all gets better. thank you all, and have a lovely rest of your day.
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this is a very poorly written apology

this is a very poorly written apology
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ok

ok
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Didn’t read

Didn’t read
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I'd like to preface by saying I haven't seen any of these docs (although I knew about their existence) and have 0 desire to do so. I have a very surface level of understanding of what happened.

I think ultimately, while you might have had good intentions, leaking the documents is absolutely 100% not your call and a serious violation of the trust that community members have in RGL. A victim sharing details among their close circle is absolutely in no way permission to disseminate info at large (and you have to know that something like a google doc especially would spread like wildfire, thinking otherwise is just incredibly delusional). It rips the agency from victims and dissuades future people from reporting if they believe that RGL is not as private as it may seem. It also opens up people to harassment from outside parties. The punishment that RGL has given is quite literally as harsh as they could possibly deal out, if you personally feel that the court of public opinion should also punish the abusers that's fine but it's not your call to make.

If you had grievances with how perma-bans were handled that is certainly a potentially reasonable viewpoint, but there are a million better ways of handling that that do not both add further harm to victims and undermine community trust in the league. RGL is IMO absolutely within their right to punish you basically how they see fit, given that as an admin you represented the league in some capacity.

I am sorry to hear about the apparent existence of a double standard as well as your own traumatic experiences; obviously if those are true some punishments are in order. But as you alluded to, it's really not an excuse. Given all that, I think the ban length is fair (maybe the ban for cheating is too lenient if anything).

I'd like to preface by saying I haven't seen any of these docs (although I knew about their existence) and have 0 desire to do so. I have a very surface level of understanding of what happened.

I think ultimately, while you might have had good intentions, leaking the documents is absolutely 100% not your call and a serious violation of the trust that community members have in RGL. A victim sharing details among their close circle is absolutely in no way permission to disseminate info at large (and you [b][i]have[/i][/b] to know that something like a google doc especially would spread like wildfire, thinking otherwise is just incredibly delusional). It rips the agency from victims and dissuades future people from reporting if they believe that RGL is not as private as it may seem. It also opens up people to harassment from outside parties. The punishment that RGL has given is quite literally as harsh as they could possibly deal out, if you personally feel that the court of public opinion should also punish the abusers that's fine but [i][b]it's not your call to make.[/b][/i]

If you had grievances with how perma-bans were handled that is certainly a potentially reasonable viewpoint, but there are a million better ways of handling that that do not both add further harm to victims and undermine community trust in the league. RGL is IMO absolutely within their right to punish you basically how they see fit, given that as an admin you represented the league in some capacity.

I am sorry to hear about the apparent existence of a double standard as well as your own traumatic experiences; obviously if those are true some punishments are in order. But as you alluded to, it's really not an excuse. Given all that, I think the ban length is fair (maybe the ban for cheating is too lenient if anything).
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You deserved the ban you got :)

You deserved the ban you got :)
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You may have exposed alfa and satan but you also exposed those reporting. You exposed what they went through to people who they didn't consent to knowing. You took away their ability to choose for themselves. You took their privacy away and possibly put them in danger. You did irreversible harm to the trust people had in rgl. You doing this meant more people will be scared to report and so less horrible people will be banned. You sent it to your fucking team discord with no regard for those who put their faith into rgl. You deserve what you got. And since you feel so comfortable exposing people, expose your groomer, or would having that out there be painful? Would having them know that you reported them hurt you? Would that put you in a bad position? Did you think at all before you hit enter? You didn't just betray the victims, you also betrayed the trust of your fellow admins who thought you could do your job like they had before you. You fucked up horribly and you deserve that ban. Who cares if they got "exposed." What rgl puts on the ban page is enough for the community to know they did something horrible. You had the right to expose your own groomer but instead you chose to expose others. People who had absolutely no say in the situation. Mabey you should apologize to the people you hurt instead of complaining on the forums.

You may have exposed alfa and satan but you also exposed those reporting. You exposed what they went through to people who they didn't consent to knowing. You took away their ability to choose for themselves. You took their privacy away and possibly put them in danger. You did irreversible harm to the trust people had in rgl. You doing this meant more people will be scared to report and so less horrible people will be banned. You sent it to your fucking team discord with no regard for those who put their faith into rgl. You deserve what you got. And since you feel so comfortable exposing people, expose your groomer, or would having that out there be painful? Would having them know that you reported them hurt you? Would that put you in a bad position? Did you think at all before you hit enter? You didn't just betray the victims, you also betrayed the trust of your fellow admins who thought you could do your job like they had before you. You fucked up horribly and you deserve that ban. Who cares if they got "exposed." What rgl puts on the ban page is enough for the community to know they did something horrible. You had the right to expose your own groomer but instead you chose to expose others. People who had absolutely no say in the situation. Mabey you should apologize to the people you hurt instead of complaining on the forums.
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what lou said

what lou said
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"to note, rgl preaches the comfort and safety of its community, yet the same rights are seemingly not given to everyone."

So this justifies you spreading the documents how...?

"to note, rgl preaches the comfort and safety of its community, yet the same rights are seemingly not given to everyone."

So this justifies you spreading the documents how...?
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With how deranged some of the previous perma banned people are (nursey) I would really recommend not leaking documents that expose the victims lol

With how deranged some of the previous perma banned people are (nursey) I would really recommend not leaking documents that expose the victims lol
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how comes the community let u have 3 vastly different aliases

how comes the community let u have 3 vastly different aliases
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Didn’t read but that’s crazy

Didn’t read but that’s crazy
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https://imgur.com/a/r13IrN7

https://imgur.com/a/r13IrN7
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wait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now

wait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now
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https://i.imgur.com/o6tNu9C.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/o6tNu9C.png[/img]
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chellwait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now

You're clearly not in the 6s community.

[quote=chell]wait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now[/quote]

You're clearly not in the 6s community.
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okyaaachellwait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now
You're clearly not in the 6s community.

the fuck

[quote=okyaaa][quote=chell]wait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now[/quote]

You're clearly not in the 6s community.[/quote]

the fuck
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chellokyaaachellwait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now
You're clearly not in the 6s community.

the fuck

" rgl staff member who had leaked the alfa situation to a significant part of the 6s community"

[quote=chell][quote=okyaaa][quote=chell]wait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now[/quote]

You're clearly not in the 6s community.[/quote]

the fuck[/quote]

" rgl staff member who had leaked the alfa situation to a significant part of the 6s community"
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okyaaachellwait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now
You're clearly not in the 6s community.

or he just doesnt read this forum

[quote=okyaaa][quote=chell]wait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now[/quote]

You're clearly not in the 6s community.[/quote]

or he just doesnt read this forum
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okyaaachellokyaaachellwait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now
You're clearly not in the 6s community.

the fuck

" rgl staff member who had leaked the alfa situation to a significant part of the 6s community"

sorry there are some people who don't participate at the high school gossip table. guess we're not real 6s players xD

[quote=okyaaa][quote=chell][quote=okyaaa][quote=chell]wait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now[/quote]

You're clearly not in the 6s community.[/quote]

the fuck[/quote]

" rgl staff member who had leaked the alfa situation to a significant part of the 6s community"[/quote]

sorry there are some people who don't participate at the high school gossip table. guess we're not real 6s players xD
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Brockor he just doesnt read this forum

the answer hasnt been posted to the forum stop condescending people

Crit_Noobsorry there are some people who don't participate at the high school gossip table. guess we're not real 6s players xD

BASED

[quote=Brock]or he just doesnt read this forum[/quote]
the answer hasnt been posted to the forum stop condescending people
[quote=Crit_Noob]sorry there are some people who don't participate at the high school gossip table. guess we're not real 6s players xD[/quote]
BASED
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okyaaachellwait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now
You're clearly not in the 6s community.

people are still gatekeeping this dead cobweb community in 2022...

[quote=okyaaa][quote=chell]wait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now[/quote]

You're clearly not in the 6s community.[/quote]
people are still gatekeeping this dead cobweb community in 2022...
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hi_okyaaachellwait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now
You're clearly not in the 6s community.
people are still gatekeeping this dead cobweb community in 2022...

I was just quoting what carrot said LOL

[quote=hi_][quote=okyaaa][quote=chell]wait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now[/quote]

You're clearly not in the 6s community.[/quote]
people are still gatekeeping this dead cobweb community in 2022...[/quote]

I was just quoting what carrot said LOL
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okyaaahi_okyaaachellwait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now
You're clearly not in the 6s community.
people are still gatekeeping this dead cobweb community in 2022...

I was just quoting what carrot said LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOtf2vVScOc

[quote=okyaaa][quote=hi_][quote=okyaaa][quote=chell]wait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now[/quote]

You're clearly not in the 6s community.[/quote]
people are still gatekeeping this dead cobweb community in 2022...[/quote]

I was just quoting what carrot said LOL[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOtf2vVScOc
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Crit_Noobokyaaachellokyaaachellwait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now
You're clearly not in the 6s community.

the fuck

" rgl staff member who had leaked the alfa situation to a significant part of the 6s community"

sorry there are some people who don't participate at the high school gossip table. guess we're not real 6s players xD

I don't participate in it either but carrot literally said "significant part of the 6s community" so if we don't know about it then we're clearly not a part of it.

[quote=Crit_Noob][quote=okyaaa][quote=chell][quote=okyaaa][quote=chell]wait so what did alfa do if it's public knowledge now[/quote]

You're clearly not in the 6s community.[/quote]

the fuck[/quote]

" rgl staff member who had leaked the alfa situation to a significant part of the 6s community"[/quote]

sorry there are some people who don't participate at the high school gossip table. guess we're not real 6s players xD[/quote]

I don't participate in it either but carrot literally said "significant part of the 6s community" so if we don't know about it then we're clearly not a part of it.
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/282591609248284672/972238524076150814/Snapchat-736657757.jpg

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/282591609248284672/972238524076150814/Snapchat-736657757.jpg[/img]
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if i see another post with 30 quotes contained in it im going to lose my fucking mind

if i see another post with 30 quotes contained in it im going to lose my fucking mind
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jesus christ maybe I should just stay away from this game

jesus christ maybe I should just stay away from this game
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To clarify, Carrot leaked docs regarding Satan and Alfa. The Alfa situation was also leaked to Invite by a different member of staff.

To clarify, Carrot leaked docs regarding Satan and Alfa. The Alfa situation was also leaked to Invite by a different member of staff.
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"i’d also like to add that my own groomer, who i reported on three separate occasions, received no consequence, aside from one formal warning. he continued to stalk me"

Ah yes, your "groomer" and "stalker". The "stalker" that you found via his private instagram, the one you begged for attention, and the one who now only wants to get away from you, yet you still try to call him your "stalker". The reason nothing was done because your evidence was total BS, and I'm glad you won't be apart of this community anymore so you can't further your harrasment.

-Chuckles

(P.S. Please get help, this isn't you)

"i’d also like to add that my own groomer, who i reported on three separate occasions, received no consequence, aside from one formal warning. he continued to stalk me"

Ah yes, your "groomer" and "stalker". The "stalker" that you found via his private instagram, the one you begged for attention, and the one who now only wants to get away from you, yet you still try to call him your "stalker". The reason nothing was done because your evidence was total BS, and I'm glad you won't be apart of this community anymore so you can't further your harrasment.

-Chuckles

(P.S. Please get help, this isn't you)
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