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#151
38 Frags +
Simbatiram_simba
where did you get that screenshot?
Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too

where did you got it from?

Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too

[quote=Simba][quote=tiram_][quote=simba]

where did you get that screenshot?[/quote]
Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too[/quote]

where did you got it from?[/quote]
Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too
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#152
-28 Frags +
zhernLoads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too

im just asking a question buddy

[quote=zhern]
Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too[/quote]

im just asking a question buddy
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#153
19 Frags +
waxdave2Realistically what needs to be done is people need to collectively hold people like alfa (rapist) accountable for the shit they do (like rape) and stop enabling them. People already did it with nursey, why can't it be done with alfa?
bc this is whats said behind the scenes
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060289353617768489/angie-10.png
this is the kind of disgusting commentary and dont forget loads of ppl are incels so its fairly to convince them alfa is a victim lmao

its this subhuman saying it btw https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

also ive heard before that "if alfa is a rapist then how come na invite still plays with him!" so ppl rly do think he did nothing instead of realizing you can be inV1t3 and very socially crippled/chronically online

glad to see me confronting someone who i used to be friends with about dating a predator gets me and my friends called slurs behind the scenes

[quote=wax][quote=dave2]Realistically what needs to be done is people need to collectively hold people like alfa (rapist) accountable for the shit they do (like rape) and stop enabling them. People already did it with nursey, why can't it be done with alfa?[/quote]

bc this is whats said behind the scenes
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536274178676883458/1060289353617768489/angie-10.png[/img]
this is the kind of disgusting commentary and dont forget loads of ppl are incels so its fairly to convince them alfa is a victim lmao

its this subhuman saying it btw https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198872629709

also ive heard before that "if alfa is a rapist then how come na invite still plays with him!" so ppl rly do think he did nothing instead of realizing you can be inV1t3 and very socially crippled/chronically online[/quote]



glad to see me confronting someone who i used to be friends with about dating a predator gets me and my friends called slurs behind the scenes
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#154
51 Frags +
plumAlfa pugscrims with MAL (or other top invite players) in the off-season, when technically some teams doesn't exist yet. Then, according to the rules, as long as neither team in the scrim is officially rostered, RGL's hands are tied. MAL KNOWINGLY does this, as I've seen this explanation be a command in tripbwai's chat. They just love bending the rules in their favor I guess.

Maybe the people in MAL can give an explanation as to why alfa is so innocent that he's still a mainstay in their mumble.

they wont

[quote=plum]Alfa pugscrims with MAL (or other top invite players) in the off-season, when technically some teams doesn't exist yet. Then, according to the rules, as long as neither team in the scrim is officially rostered, RGL's hands are tied. MAL KNOWINGLY does this, as I've seen this explanation be a command in tripbwai's chat. They just love bending the rules in their favor I guess.

Maybe the people in MAL can give an explanation as to why alfa is so innocent that he's still a mainstay in their mumble.[/quote]
they wont
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#155
12 Frags +
Simbatiram_simba
where did you get that screenshot?
Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too

where did you got it from?

are you broken?

[quote=Simba][quote=tiram_][quote=simba]

where did you get that screenshot?[/quote]
Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too[/quote]

where did you got it from?[/quote]
are you broken?
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#156
35 Frags +

bro simping across whole continents now

bro simping across whole continents now
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#157
5 Frags +
hexeriihttps://imgur.com/t8HQCuV

2022: “How do we stop the scene from dying in EU?”
2023: “Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.” (Matthew 7:7)

[quote=hexerii]
https://imgur.com/t8HQCuV[/quote]

2022: “How do we stop the scene from dying in EU?”
2023: “Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.” (Matthew 7:7)
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#158
5 Frags +
Simbatiram_simba
where did you get that screenshot?
Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too

where did you got it from?

got it from you're mom's house B)

[quote=Simba][quote=tiram_][quote=simba]

where did you get that screenshot?[/quote]
Loads of people have that screenshot man you need to tell your best friend Hzl to stop typing shit like this and prolly stop getting alfa to merc for your open highlander team cause that’s pretty weird too[/quote]

where did you got it from?[/quote]
got it from you're mom's house B)
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#159
40 Frags +

If you're from EU and are thinking "if he's pugscrimming with invite players he couldn't have done it". He did it. Those players just have no moral compass.

Dude had to be wrestled off.

If you're from EU and are thinking "if he's pugscrimming with invite players he couldn't have done it". He did it. Those players just have no moral compass.

Dude had to be wrestled off.
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#160
12 Frags +

if RGL cared, they could just tell people they will be banned if they play with or against alfa.

if RGL cared, they could just tell people they will be banned if they play with or against alfa.
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#161
29 Frags +
Wackyfireballif RGL cared, they could just tell people they will be banned if they play with or against alfa.

We care very much. Because of the emotional complexity of situation like this, it makes sense why--whatever the result--there's persisting issues and frustrations. It can be mentally taxing, and I'm grateful for those that can do it level-headed. We're doing our best to look into it and make good decisions.

Thanks for your patience.

[quote=Wackyfireball]if RGL cared, they could just tell people they will be banned if they play with or against alfa.[/quote]

We care very much. Because of the emotional complexity of situation like this, it makes sense why--whatever the result--there's persisting issues and frustrations. It can be mentally taxing, and I'm grateful for those that can do it level-headed. We're doing our best to look into it and make good decisions.

Thanks for your patience.
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#162
30 Frags +

It's a very unfortunate double-edged sword that since so much of the Alfa stuff was (attempted) to be kept under wraps, a ton of people just don't know what he did, so they choose to not care when they see invite players playing with/against him. Despite this, I still think it is better to leave the specifics of what happened quiet because having it all super well-known is just a shitty situation to everyone else involved.

This is all in contrast to nursey for example, where what they did was very public and they are completely separated from at least the comp community, with threads popping up if they even touch the game in comp. Ik it's not quite as nice as that cuz there's still weird stuff where people get mentored by him and still have him added etc.

It sucks that people just think "oh well idk what he did so it can't be that serious" even though what alfa did was arguably much worse. Would love to see rgl take some action against the people that just continue to play with him, esp when they're streaming it and stuff. Alfa not being completely rejected from the community by this point is nothing short of disappointing.

It's a very unfortunate double-edged sword that since so much of the Alfa stuff was (attempted) to be kept under wraps, a ton of people just don't know what he did, so they choose to not care when they see invite players playing with/against him. Despite this, I still think it is better to leave the specifics of what happened quiet because having it all super well-known is just a shitty situation to everyone else involved.

This is all in contrast to nursey for example, where what they did was very public and they are completely separated from at least the comp community, with threads popping up if they even touch the game in comp. Ik it's not quite as nice as that cuz there's still weird stuff where people get mentored by him and still have him added etc.

It sucks that people just think "oh well idk what he did so it can't be that serious" even though what alfa did was arguably much worse. Would love to see rgl take some action against the people that just continue to play with him, esp when they're streaming it and stuff. Alfa not being completely rejected from the community by this point is nothing short of disappointing.
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#163
-24 Frags +

Ok but I don’t understand how from RGL’s perspective there is anything complicated about people doing the whip and nae nae on their league during the off season so they can play with a rapist. He sucks at tf2 so I don’t understand what we would be missing if this dumbass stopped having the opportunity to plague the league with his existence. It’s obvious he still has ties. What is there to look into? Nobody in that squad of losers, racists and coons gives a shit and they’re probably giggling to themselves in their little discord about how stupid this all is.

I don’t understand why admins are pussies in this scenario. Need one to explain to me how it isn’t a good idea to make examples of these stupid kids lol

Ok but I don’t understand how from RGL’s perspective there is anything complicated about people doing the whip and nae nae on their league during the off season so they can play with a rapist. He sucks at tf2 so I don’t understand what we would be missing if this dumbass stopped having the opportunity to plague the league with his existence. It’s obvious he still has ties. What is there to look into? Nobody in that squad of losers, racists and coons gives a shit and they’re probably giggling to themselves in their little discord about how stupid this all is.

I don’t understand why admins are pussies in this scenario. Need one to explain to me how it isn’t a good idea to make examples of these stupid kids lol
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#164
-10 Frags +
zheep

Suggesting RGL should extend their authority from their league to policing the entire TF2 competitive community by creating new rules that retroactively gives them authority to ban people in the off-season is just not the solution.

[quote=zheep][/quote]
Suggesting RGL should extend their authority from their league to policing the entire TF2 competitive community by creating new rules that retroactively gives them authority to ban people in the off-season is just not the solution.
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#165
59 Frags +
zheepWhat is there to look into? Nobody in that squad of losers, racists and coons gives a shit and they’re probably giggling to themselves in their little discord about how stupid this all is.

uhh racists and whats

[quote=zheep]What is there to look into? Nobody in that squad of losers, racists and coons gives a shit and they’re probably giggling to themselves in their little discord about how stupid this all is.
[/quote]


uhh racists and whats
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#166
41 Frags +

idk what to say really. sexually assaulting someone is like literally one of the worst things you can do. and not only did he get away with it scot free, he's still allowed to exist in his favorite game in some way??? absolutely fucking revolting

idk what to say really. sexually assaulting someone is like literally one of the worst things you can do. and not only did he get away with it scot free, he's still allowed to exist in his favorite game in some way??? absolutely fucking revolting
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#167
14 Frags +
ElenaManettaSuggesting RGL should extend their authority from their league to policing the entire TF2 competitive community by creating new rules that retroactively gives them authority to ban people in the off-season is just not the solution.

The rules exist and there is precedence for them being used. People get banned in the offseason and people get banned for playing with permabanned players (the rule explicitly includes pugscrims). Off the top of my head I don't know of any specific case of someone getting banned in the offseason for playing with a permabanned player but I also fail to see a reason that that wouldn't be within the rights of RGL as a sanctioning body.

Regardless of the actual rule lawyering though, even just bending the rules to play with your rapist friend seems like a pretty fucking stupid move if you ask me. extremely disappointed in the top level of the scene right now.

[quote=ElenaManetta]
Suggesting RGL should extend their authority from their league to policing the entire TF2 competitive community by creating new rules that retroactively gives them authority to ban people in the off-season is just not the solution.[/quote]

The rules exist and there is precedence for them being used. People get banned in the offseason and people get banned for playing with permabanned players (the rule explicitly includes pugscrims). Off the top of my head I don't know of any specific case of someone getting banned in the offseason for playing with a permabanned player but I also fail to see a reason that that wouldn't be within the rights of RGL as a sanctioning body.

Regardless of the actual rule lawyering though, even just bending the rules to play with your rapist friend seems like a pretty fucking stupid move if you ask me. extremely disappointed in the top level of the scene right now.
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#168
-35 Frags +
lawnnzheepWhat is there to look into? Nobody in that squad of losers, racists and coons gives a shit and they’re probably giggling to themselves in their little discord about how stupid this all is.
uhh racists and whats

Disclaimer: I am not Black, I have no idea if Zheep is Black, and I could be totally wrong here

I have seen Black people in other online spaces use "coon" (as far as I could gather) to refer to other people in the Black community who behave in ways that embarrass or reflect poorly on the rest of the community. The context of the post (speaking negatively about Alfa and others who condone shitty behavior) and this specific usage of the word makes me think Zheep is Black. But I know nothing about them, and it's not my community, so maybe I'm wrong.

[quote=lawnn][quote=zheep]What is there to look into? Nobody in that squad of losers, racists and coons gives a shit and they’re probably giggling to themselves in their little discord about how stupid this all is.
[/quote]


uhh racists and whats[/quote]
Disclaimer: I am not Black, I have no idea if Zheep is Black, and I could be totally wrong here

I have seen Black people in other online spaces use "coon" (as far as I could gather) to refer to other people in the Black community who behave in ways that embarrass or reflect poorly on the rest of the community. The context of the post (speaking negatively about Alfa and others who condone shitty behavior) and this specific usage of the word makes me think Zheep is Black. But I know nothing about them, and it's not my community, so maybe I'm wrong.
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#169
55 Frags +
RendoaslawnnzheepWhat is there to look into? Nobody in that squad of losers, racists and coons gives a shit and they’re probably giggling to themselves in their little discord about how stupid this all is.
uhh racists and whats
Disclaimer: I am not Black, I have no idea if Zheep is Black, and I could be totally wrong here

I have seen Black people in other online spaces use "coon" (as far as I could gather) to refer to other people in the Black community who behave in ways that embarrass or reflect poorly on the rest of the community. The context of the post (speaking negatively about Alfa and others who condone shitty behavior) and this specific usage of the word makes me think Zheep is Black. But I know nothing about them, and it's not my community, so maybe I'm wrong.

i can say with certainty that this is one of the posts of all time

[quote=Rendoas][quote=lawnn][quote=zheep]What is there to look into? Nobody in that squad of losers, racists and coons gives a shit and they’re probably giggling to themselves in their little discord about how stupid this all is.
[/quote]


uhh racists and whats[/quote]
Disclaimer: I am not Black, I have no idea if Zheep is Black, and I could be totally wrong here

I have seen Black people in other online spaces use "coon" (as far as I could gather) to refer to other people in the Black community who behave in ways that embarrass or reflect poorly on the rest of the community. The context of the post (speaking negatively about Alfa and others who condone shitty behavior) and this specific usage of the word makes me think Zheep is Black. But I know nothing about them, and it's not my community, so maybe I'm wrong.[/quote]
i can say with certainty that this is one of the posts of all time
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#170
19 Frags +
Reeroi can say with certainty that this is one of the posts of all time

Disclaimer: I am not a Poster, I have no idea if Reero is a Poster, and I could be totally wrong here

I have seen Posters in other online spaces use "one of the posts of all time" (as far as I could gather) to refer to other people in the Posting community’s Posts that are typed in ways that embarrass or reflect poorly on the rest of the community. The context of the Post (speaking strangely about black people) and this specific usage of the phrase makes me think Reero is a Poster. But I know nothing about them, and it's not my community, so maybe I'm wrong.

[quote=Reero]i can say with certainty that this is one of the posts of all time[/quote]
Disclaimer: I am not a Poster, I have no idea if Reero is a Poster, and I could be totally wrong here

I have seen Posters in other online spaces use "one of the posts of all time" (as far as I could gather) to refer to other people in the Posting community’s Posts that are typed in ways that embarrass or reflect poorly on the rest of the community. The context of the Post (speaking strangely about black people) and this specific usage of the phrase makes me think Reero is a Poster. But I know nothing about them, and it's not my community, so maybe I'm wrong.
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#171
-2 Frags +

racists and antiracists, he meant to say. forgive him.

racists and antiracists, he meant to say. forgive him.
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#172
-6 Frags +

I'm sorry, I genuinely don't understand what I said that was wrong, or how I said it that was wrong. Can someone explain?

I'm used to having to overexplain in an effort to not accidentally hurt anybody. Is it that I came across as too clinical? My intent was to help because I thought it was possible someone could have been being misinterpreted due to a lack of context. I apologize if that in itself was upsetting.

I promise I'm not a basement dweller. I'm just literally autistic and bad at communicating sometimes.

I'm sorry, I genuinely don't understand what I said that was wrong, or how I said it that was wrong. Can someone explain?

I'm used to having to overexplain in an effort to not accidentally hurt anybody. Is it that I came across as too clinical? My intent was to help because I thought it was possible someone could have been being misinterpreted due to a lack of context. I apologize if that in itself was upsetting.

I promise I'm not a basement dweller. I'm just literally autistic and bad at communicating sometimes.
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#173
20 Frags +
Rendoassnip

just move along bro

[quote=Rendoas]snip[/quote]

just move along bro
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#174
17 Frags +
RendoasI'm sorry, I genuinely don't understand what I said that was wrong, or how I said it that was wrong. Can someone explain?

As another autistic person, allow me to overthink for you.

Yes too clinical, but more so though it comes off as a bit too, assuming per say of your understanding of zheep's identity and the situation in question; and is also a bit offensive.

But also: trying to tie the usage of a slur to one's identity upsets other people; and can kinda comes off as an attempted justification of it, rather than a well intended explanation. and regardless, it's not really something that one
would necessarily want to try and justify using what you think as a baseline.

Simply put, It's a battle that the person using the slur/term in question should have to answer for, if others are judging them. You're not really gonna win that fight for them, and you're just going to open yourself up to judgement regardless of what your intent is. Morally speaking it's probably for the best that they have to deal with it, and not you.

Also the phrasing and way the post was structured is very memeable and seeing how others use your post as a template can kinda be an indication of what upsets them or what makes it easy to mock; by looking at the core of what followup posts are based on.
IE : "the context of the post (speaking strangely about black people)", somewhat indicates how it's received, and with that wording you can look back at your own post and see what could be interpreted that way by comparing.

Best thing you can do is just learn from it and not to try to further explain it here tbh, sucks but it's a good learning opportunity.

[quote=Rendoas]I'm sorry, I genuinely don't understand what I said that was wrong, or how I said it that was wrong. Can someone explain?
[/quote]

As another autistic person, allow me to overthink for you.

Yes too clinical, but more so though it comes off as a bit too, assuming per say of your understanding of zheep's identity and the situation in question; and is also a bit offensive.

But also: trying to tie the usage of a slur to one's identity upsets other people; and can kinda comes off as an attempted justification of it, rather than a well intended explanation. and regardless, it's not really something that one
would necessarily want to try and justify using what you think as a baseline.

Simply put, It's a battle that the person using the slur/term in question should have to answer for, if others are judging them. You're not really gonna win that fight for them, and you're just going to open yourself up to judgement regardless of what your intent is. Morally speaking it's probably for the best that they have to deal with it, and not you.

Also the phrasing and way the post was structured is very memeable and seeing how others use your post as a template can kinda be an indication of what upsets them or what makes it easy to mock; by looking at the core of what followup posts are based on.
IE : "the context of the post (speaking strangely about black people)", somewhat indicates how it's received, and with that wording you can look back at your own post and see what could be interpreted that way by comparing.

Best thing you can do is just learn from it and not to try to further explain it here tbh, sucks but it's a good learning opportunity.
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#175
19 Frags +

Really appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective, thank you.

Really appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective, thank you.
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#176
19 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/02sA2yr.png

gg*5

[img]https://i.imgur.com/02sA2yr.png[/img]
gg*5
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#177
6 Frags +

It's weird the video uploader claimed he was banned for typing gg 5 times but you can clearly see him type it a 6th time in the chat.

It's weird the video uploader claimed he was banned for typing gg 5 times but you can clearly see him type it a 6th time in the chat.
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