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TF2 and mental illness (VENT)
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This is not a pity party post or attention seeking post just me venting about this game. First off I'm bad and I always will be ive prob played 1000s of pugs and been in 10s of teams and still suck ass I don't get enjoyment out of me getting yelled at for being shit at medic every pug because no one else wants to play him. 3.4k hours and I'm still shit. My own team even feels like I'm not good I feel like a burden just being this bad. i'm not taking a break from this game though this is the only game to make me feel anything anymore I just get bored of everything else and tf2 is that game I can put 1000s of Dollars and hours into.

TLDR ; I'm trash and bitch about it

This is not a pity party post or attention seeking post just me venting about this game. First off I'm bad and I always will be ive prob played 1000s of pugs and been in 10s of teams and still suck ass I don't get enjoyment out of me getting yelled at for being shit at medic every pug because no one else wants to play him. 3.4k hours and I'm still shit. My own team even feels like I'm not good I feel like a burden just being this bad. i'm not taking a break from this game though this is the only game to make me feel anything anymore I just get bored of everything else and tf2 is that game I can put 1000s of Dollars and hours into.


TLDR ; I'm trash and bitch about it
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#2
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reconsider ur decision to not take a break from tf2 and just play single player games/do something therapeutic

theres only one person on this earth who was born to be nothing more than a tf2 player and it's not u

reconsider ur decision to not take a break from tf2 and just play single player games/do something therapeutic

theres only one person on this earth who was born to be nothing more than a tf2 player and it's not u
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#3
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CalebCalebI'm bad and I always will be

There's your problem, your attitude is keeping you down. You can show marked improvement and dig yourself outta this hole by reviewing your own demos, comparing them to top players, taking notes on what you do right and what you do wrong, etc.

There also lies the fact that you're overthinking everything, and letting anxiety dominate your mindset. TF2 is also about mentality, so I'd recommend doing some meditation and other mental exercises before hopping into a game.

[quote=CalebCaleb]I'm bad and I always will be[/quote]
There's your problem, your attitude is keeping you down. You can show marked improvement and dig yourself outta this hole by reviewing your own demos, comparing them to top players, taking notes on what you do right and what you do wrong, etc.

There also lies the fact that you're overthinking everything, and letting anxiety dominate your mindset. TF2 is also about mentality, so I'd recommend doing some meditation and other mental exercises before hopping into a game.
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#4
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taking a break actually does wonders man, even if it's only for a day or two. you got this!

taking a break actually does wonders man, even if it's only for a day or two. you got this!
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Topic title says mental illness, but getting anxious over being yelled at doesn't necessarily show mental illness. However, if you're into being competitive in literally anything, you'll need to be okay with people getting upset. You need to find a way to let it roll off of you. If you don't want to play medic, don't. Eventually somebody will. Also, if you're not trying to improve, or at least win and you're playing competitive, then maybe you should review why you play competitive.

Topic title says mental illness, but getting anxious over being yelled at doesn't necessarily show mental illness. However, if you're into being competitive in literally anything, you'll need to be okay with people getting upset. You need to find a way to let it roll off of you. If you don't want to play medic, don't. Eventually somebody will. Also, if you're not trying to improve, or at least win and you're playing competitive, then maybe you should review why you play competitive.
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#6
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only 3.4k hrs i have that on demo and solly combined, and have like almost 8k hours im like open at best. take a break bro if you need too

only 3.4k hrs i have that on demo and solly combined, and have like almost 8k hours im like open at best. take a break bro if you need too
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#7
28 Frags +

Hi caleb,

I tried out for your team last night, and I didn't think you played that poorly. Things I think you could improve on specifically:

1) Have confidence in your game play
2) Demo review and try to get a grasp on the 6s meta, why players are doing what/when
3) Find a mentor and ask them to demo review with you occasionally

Multiple times during the game I audibly heard you ask if you were doing things right, and is definitely not a good look if you're trying to form your own team. I think playing pocket your first season is a big under taking and I support you 100% but you need to have a decent understanding of how every class on your 'should' be playing so you can effectively main call. Process isn't the best pocket map as I mentioned during the break and I don't think you should be too hard on yourself for that performance. I would highly recommend getting involved with Newbie Mixes which are hosted every Friday night. They offer on the spot blind picking to form 6s teams including a short introduction with a coach of how the game should be played out for each role. They also help teams form each season and I think this would be a great stepping stone to get your feet wet in esea, this is how I made my first 6s team in Season 23. Best of luck to you and if you have any questions feel free to message me at any time on steam, and if I don't have the right answers, I'll get you into contact with someone who does.

Your new friend,
wolsne

Hi caleb,

I tried out for your team last night, and I didn't think you played that poorly. Things I think you could improve on specifically:

1) Have confidence in your game play
2) Demo review and try to get a grasp on the 6s meta, why players are doing what/when
3) Find a mentor and ask them to demo review with you occasionally

Multiple times during the game I audibly heard you ask if you were doing things right, and is definitely not a good look if you're trying to form your own team. I think playing pocket your first season is a big under taking and I support you 100% but you need to have a decent understanding of how every class on your 'should' be playing so you can effectively main call. Process isn't the best pocket map as I mentioned during the break and I don't think you should be too hard on yourself for that performance. I would highly recommend getting involved with [url=https://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix]Newbie Mixes[/url] which are hosted every Friday night. They offer on the spot blind picking to form 6s teams including a short introduction with a coach of how the game should be played out for each role. They also help teams form each season and I think this would be a great stepping stone to get your feet wet in esea, this is how I made my first 6s team in Season 23. Best of luck to you and if you have any questions feel free to message me at any time on steam, and if I don't have the right answers, I'll get you into contact with someone who does.

Your new friend,
wolsne
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#8
-13 Frags +

grind mge 24/7 for 4-5 months straight without changing ur sens or hud

grind mge 24/7 for 4-5 months straight without changing ur sens or hud
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The whole "oh no it's only your attitude keeping you down" argument is stupid, some people will never be mechanically talented and some will never have a brain.
If he truly believes he will never be any good and that's a major problem that ruins his enjoyment for the game then he should stop playing. Tf2 will only keep him down.

The whole "oh no it's only your attitude keeping you down" argument is stupid, some people will never be mechanically talented and some will never have a brain.
If he truly believes he will never be any good and that's a major problem that ruins his enjoyment for the game then he should stop playing. Tf2 will only keep him down.
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#10
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CalebCaleb 3.4k hours and I'm still shit.

oh child

[quote=CalebCaleb] 3.4k hours and I'm still shit.
[/quote]
oh child
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#11
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It’s true that some people are more mechanically gifted than others. I’ve known people who have got to prem in like 2-3 seasons, but I also know people who have played like 15+ seasons and aren’t prem-that’s just life.
Although it seems paradoxial, you’re only as good as you think you are. What I mean by this is of you constantly beat yourself down on being ‘shit’ then you wont improve, you’ve got to be confident my man.

Although it may seem hard to do, don’t let others opinions of you be your reality.
Just enjoy yourself, tf2 can be highly competitive but at the end of the day is a hobby where you should be having fun.

I recommend single player games or otherwise other individual hobbies. My personal favourites as an example are rc helis, if I land a new trick that I haven’t done before then I feel gratifed and accomplished. I also love running, it’s literally the simplest shit, I literally just go for a run and feel rewarded for going for a run...who gives a fuck if I’m slow it’s just me vs myself man.

I’m not saying you should quit tf2 but if you can, try and find another hobby that suits you to get your mind off of it.
Hope this helps :)

It’s true that some people are more mechanically gifted than others. I’ve known people who have got to prem in like 2-3 seasons, but I also know people who have played like 15+ seasons and aren’t prem-that’s just life.
Although it seems paradoxial, you’re only as good as you think you are. What I mean by this is of you constantly beat yourself down on being ‘shit’ then you wont improve, you’ve got to be confident my man.

Although it may seem hard to do, don’t let others opinions of you be your reality.
Just enjoy yourself, tf2 can be highly competitive but at the end of the day is a hobby where you should be having fun.

I recommend single player games or otherwise other individual hobbies. My personal favourites as an example are rc helis, if I land a new trick that I haven’t done before then I feel gratifed and accomplished. I also love running, it’s literally the simplest shit, I literally just go for a run and feel rewarded for going for a run...who gives a fuck if I’m slow it’s just me vs myself man.

I’m not saying you should quit tf2 but if you can, try and find another hobby that suits you to get your mind off of it.
Hope this helps :)
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#12
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damn thread awoken all tf.tv psychologists

damn thread awoken all tf.tv psychologists
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unfiaboodamn thread awoken all tf.tv psychologists

i mean when a game is this old and everyone has played for huge amounts of hours and still aren't at the top tier attitude and mentality come into it a lot. The difference between a 3000 hour player and a 12000 hour player isn't as big as it would seem. its pretty rare that a video game can have a player put thousands of hours into it seriously trying hard and still not have them at the pro level

[quote=unfiaboo]damn thread awoken all tf.tv psychologists[/quote]

i mean when a game is this old and everyone has played for huge amounts of hours and still aren't at the top tier attitude and mentality come into it a lot. The difference between a 3000 hour player and a 12000 hour player isn't as big as it would seem. its pretty rare that a video game can have a player put thousands of hours into it seriously trying hard and still not have them at the pro level
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I feel your pain brudda

I feel your pain brudda
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gbjThe difference between a 3000 hour player and a 12000 hour player isn't as big as it would seem.

that's not at all true

gbjits pretty rare that a video game can have a player put thousands of hours into it seriously trying hard and still not have them at the pro level

this is also completely false, or I just have no idea what games you're talking about.

[quote=gbj]The difference between a 3000 hour player and a 12000 hour player isn't as big as it would seem.[/quote]
that's not at all true

[quote=gbj]its pretty rare that a video game can have a player put thousands of hours into it seriously trying hard and still not have them at the pro level[/quote]

this is also completely false, or I just have no idea what games you're talking about.
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#16
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One of the best things I ever did for my game was to stop grinding dm and mge every day for hours and instead take a break for a week and finish Undertale. Just take some time off of TF2 and come back with a better mindset.

One of the best things I ever did for my game was to stop grinding dm and mge every day for hours and instead take a break for a week and finish Undertale. Just take some time off of TF2 and come back with a better mindset.
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#17
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the least u play the better u get

the least u play the better u get
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#18
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Mental fortitude and a positive attitude are two essential ingredients when trying to do anything, and if playing less means you gain that, then find other things to do. People with glass jaws don't last long. It sounds like you're only hitting n-hour milestones in playing games so that's pretty normal (to varying magnitudes).

I stopped several times over the course of a few years to just play other games with friends, try (and fail) at defrag, etc. I ended up having fun, and in the end you keep those vibes going for a long while.

Mental fortitude and a positive attitude are two essential ingredients when trying to do anything, and if playing less means you gain that, then find other things to do. People with glass jaws don't last long. It sounds like you're only hitting n-hour milestones in playing games so that's pretty normal (to varying magnitudes).

I stopped several times over the course of a few years to just play other games with friends, try (and fail) at defrag, etc. I ended up having fun, and in the end you keep those vibes going for a long while.
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tambogbjThe difference between a 3000 hour player and a 12000 hour player isn't as big as it would seem.that's not at all true

How so? after 3000 hours at the game your mechanical skill is more than enough to hold your own, it just becomes about knowledge and strategy at that point

tambogbjits pretty rare that a video game can have a player put thousands of hours into it seriously trying hard and still not have them at the pro level
this is also completely false, or I just have no idea what games you're talking about.

Fortnite, PUBG, CS:GO, Dota 2 & LoL also come to mind, although by this point they're pretty similar to TF2 in terms of hour count

[quote=tambo][quote=gbj]The difference between a 3000 hour player and a 12000 hour player isn't as big as it would seem.[/quote]
that's not at all true[/quote]

How so? after 3000 hours at the game your mechanical skill is more than enough to hold your own, it just becomes about knowledge and strategy at that point

[quote=tambo][quote=gbj]its pretty rare that a video game can have a player put thousands of hours into it seriously trying hard and still not have them at the pro level[/quote]

this is also completely false, or I just have no idea what games you're talking about.[/quote]

Fortnite, PUBG, CS:GO, Dota 2 & LoL also come to mind, although by this point they're pretty similar to TF2 in terms of hour count
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#20
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i had nearly 8,000 hours of tf2 and i was still shit, don't look at it as a bad thing.. just take it as inspiration for wanting to get better

i had nearly 8,000 hours of tf2 and i was still shit, don't look at it as a bad thing.. just take it as inspiration for wanting to get better
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#21
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If You Have Fun Playing The Game, Hours Dont Matter

If You Have Fun Playing The Game, Hours Dont Matter
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#22
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clockwork said it before and I'll always remember it.

the best way to improve in tf2 is to not play tf2

clockwork said it before and I'll always remember it.


the best way to improve in tf2 is to not play tf2
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#23
3 Frags +

Burnout happens to everyone, especially those who grind the game without any breaks. My rule of thumb is to not force yourself to play the game since you actually get worse if you're not enjoying it. Even if TF2 is the only game you'll ever play (I can relate to this), consider trying out other gamemodes like dodgeball, jump, and surf.

zheepreconsider ur decision to not take a break from tf2 and just play single player games/do something therapeutic

theres only one person on this earth who was born to be nothing more than a tf2 player and it's not u

Jumping was a great outlet for me after I quit playing comp; it's kind of a single-player game within TF2 and helps me relax.

Burnout happens to everyone, especially those who grind the game without any breaks. My rule of thumb is to not force yourself to play the game since you actually get worse if you're not enjoying it. Even if TF2 is the only game you'll ever play (I can relate to this), consider trying out other gamemodes like dodgeball, jump, and surf.
[quote=zheep]reconsider ur decision to not take a break from tf2 and just play single player games/do something therapeutic

theres only one person on this earth who was born to be nothing more than a tf2 player and it's not u[/quote]
Jumping was a great outlet for me after I quit playing comp; it's kind of a single-player game within TF2 and helps me relax.
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#24
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name a more iconic duo

name a more iconic duo
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#25
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i've been playing for about 7 years at the exact same level - the way I think about it is that if you're having fun then good and if you're not then play against worse people so you can have fun again. being good or bad is completely subjective to the level you play at. if you're prem high players are bad and if you're open high players are gods.

if you feel like you're not very good at a class after ages of playing it and that annoys you, then just change class and play tf2c or something where you just get to chill out and do dumb shit while you improve your mechanics. if you have high expectations of yourself and fail to meet them that's not good for confidence.. just like u I have little confidence in my own play so I know what the effects are like, and I prefer to just avoid that by not playing whatever class I think I'm the best on

idk what it's like in america but in europe you can play only TF2C and it can make u top open/low mid so maybe that's like mid open in america, but the point is pugs where people are annoying aren't your only option and it's way more fun to just chill out

i've been playing for about 7 years at the exact same level - the way I think about it is that if you're having fun then good and if you're not then play against worse people so you can have fun again. being good or bad is completely subjective to the level you play at. if you're prem high players are bad and if you're open high players are gods.

if you feel like you're not very good at a class after ages of playing it and that annoys you, then just change class and play tf2c or something where you just get to chill out and do dumb shit while you improve your mechanics. if you have high expectations of yourself and fail to meet them that's not good for confidence.. just like u I have little confidence in my own play so I know what the effects are like, and I prefer to just avoid that by not playing whatever class I think I'm the best on

idk what it's like in america but in europe you can play only TF2C and it can make u top open/low mid so maybe that's like mid open in america, but the point is pugs where people are annoying aren't your only option and it's way more fun to just chill out
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#26
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Shiftaname a more iconic duo

tf2 and weebs

[quote=Shifta]name a more iconic duo[/quote]
tf2 and weebs
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#27
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how about tf2 and furry rp

how about tf2 and furry rp
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