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#31
25 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu6uXLGJO1g

the dream lives again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu6uXLGJO1g

the dream lives again
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#32
7 Frags +

The whitelist you linked is actually pretty wrong from the esea league rules (which should be correct). Here is the correct whitelist (minus the taunts).

notable adds are the: pocket pistol, cow mangler, natascha, rescue ranger

The whitelist you linked is actually pretty wrong from the esea league rules (which should be correct). [url=https://whitelist.tf/9320]Here is the correct whitelist (minus the taunts).[/url]

notable adds are the: pocket pistol, cow mangler, natascha, rescue ranger
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#33
56 Frags +

rescue ranger are u fucking kidding me

this was supposed to be the lit season..

rescue ranger are u fucking kidding me

this was supposed to be the lit season..
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#34
74 Frags +

In all seriousness how the fuck does the whitelist just quietly change without the community knowing or having any say? To those who changed the whitelist, how about letting the community vote on it next time? For fucks sake nobody wants this stuff in leagues outside of the 3% of people who still think Valve is gonna help comp tf2 if we don't ban shit for some reason.

In all seriousness how the fuck does the whitelist just quietly change without the community knowing or having any say? To those who changed the whitelist, how about letting the community vote on it next time? For fucks sake nobody wants this stuff in leagues outside of the 3% of people who still think Valve is gonna help comp tf2 if we don't ban shit for some reason.
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#35
8 Frags +

natascha and eviction notice are both unbanned

time to roll out to second and ruin fun for 30 minutes

natascha and eviction notice are both unbanned

time to roll out to second and ruin fun for 30 minutes
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#36
12 Frags +

ranger unbanned, pocket pistol unbanned, danger shield still banned.

who did this and why

ranger unbanned, pocket pistol unbanned, danger shield still banned.

who did this and why
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#37
2 Frags +

cant wait to throw my gas on enemy gamers as the pyromaniac class

cant wait to throw my gas on enemy gamers as the pyromaniac class
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#38
2 Frags +

While at it should unban quick fix n vaccinator also. Ffs

While at it should unban quick fix n vaccinator also. Ffs
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#39
60 Frags +

rescue ranger? guys....

rescue ranger? guys....
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#40
17 Frags +

they unbanned everything ROFL

they unbanned everything ROFL
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#41
1 Frags +

machina unbanned :o

machina unbanned :o
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#42
33 Frags +

Cowmangler would still be a direct upgrade even if it didnt have the chargeshot..

Cowmangler would still be a direct upgrade even if it didnt have the chargeshot..
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#43
0 Frags +

man screw projectiles that do damage at range like the crossbow and charge shot

man screw projectiles that do damage at range like the crossbow and charge shot
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#44
27 Frags +

We are getting closer for that tf2 major :)

We are getting closer for that tf2 major :)
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#45
26 Frags +

What's the reason for unbanning weapons like cow mangler and rescue ranger which were tested for a season or 2 and found out to be worthy of banning when they are still the same weapons? Aren't you just actively devolving the whitelist?

What's the reason for unbanning weapons like cow mangler and rescue ranger which were tested for a season or 2 and found out to be worthy of banning when they are still the same weapons? Aren't you just actively devolving the whitelist?
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#46
3 Frags +

Perhaps it would be a good idea for teams to consider arranging gentleman's agreements between themselves saying they won't use any aids weapons for scrims or officials. I remember a Marxist post where he said there was a full season of IM with the quick-fix unbanned where all teams agreed to not use it for officials and it worked out so well that even the grand finals did not involve the use of the quick-fix.

Perhaps it would be a good idea for teams to consider arranging gentleman's agreements between themselves saying they won't use any aids weapons for scrims or officials. I remember a Marxist post where he said there was a full season of IM with the quick-fix unbanned where all teams agreed to not use it for officials and it worked out so well that even the grand finals did not involve the use of the quick-fix.
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#47
28 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/k2jVl18_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[img]https://i.imgur.com/k2jVl18_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium[/img]
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#48
2 Frags +

Aaaaaaaaand a way to ruin fire seasons in EU and NA was found. Gg. Didnt take that long I guess...

We got coalplant out so how about we get these retarded weapons unbans revertad back as well?

Aaaaaaaaand a way to ruin fire seasons in [s]EU[/s] and NA was found. Gg. Didnt take that long I guess...

[s]We got coalplant out so how about we get these retarded weapons unbans revertad back as well?[/s]
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#49
20 Frags +

From my understanding this whitelist is isolated to ESEA only.

From my understanding this whitelist is isolated to ESEA only.
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#50
0 Frags +

"Global" Whitelist LMAO

"Global" Whitelist LMAO
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#51
-92 Frags +

Before you post, please actually look at the S29 whitelist. The only unbans were Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol, Atomizer, Cow Mangler 5000, Mantreads, Dragon's Fury, and Gas Passer. I'm sure tri can chime in on how the decisions were finalized, but it was mostly settled on after discussions during the preseason invite meeting where consensus was that adding this incremental batch of items would be seamless, which I'm confident you'll find that to be the case. Along with the other changes to the league structuring, this is best whitelist yet and should be the new standard that other leagues catch up to. Props to tri and ESEA for pushing for progress this season.

Before you post, please actually look at [url=https://whitelist.tf/9279]the S29 whitelist[/url]. The only unbans were Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol, Atomizer, Cow Mangler 5000, Mantreads, Dragon's Fury, and Gas Passer. I'm sure tri can chime in on how the decisions were finalized, but it was mostly settled on after discussions during the preseason invite meeting where consensus was that adding this incremental batch of items would be seamless, which I'm confident you'll find that to be the case. Along with the other changes to the league structuring, this is best whitelist yet and should be the new standard that other leagues catch up to. Props to tri and ESEA for pushing for progress this season.
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#52
94 Frags +

lol
the preseason invite meeting that only people you bothered to message knew about

lol
the preseason invite meeting that only people you bothered to message knew about
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#53
44 Frags +

you have to give it to b4nny, he's mastered the art of trolling everyone

you have to give it to b4nny, he's mastered the art of trolling everyone
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#54
71 Frags +

banny u STUPID
just look at what this fucking thing can do man its so dumb

banny u STUPID
[url=https://youtu.be/6n3pFFPSlW4]just look at what this fucking thing can do man its so dumb[/url]
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#55
7 Frags +

for clarity the meeting was invite captains/team reps that were planning on playing invite the day of the meeting. I didn't really like how impromptu it was but that's how they have historically been for seasons now so it's unfortunately nothing new.

while conflicting opinions were thrown back and forth for hours, there were definitely things that everyone agreed to not touch (natasha, rescue ranger), so the rules page whitelist is prob just old from 25 or 26 or whatever that season was.

for clarity the meeting was invite captains/team reps that were planning on playing invite the day of the meeting. I didn't really like how impromptu it was but that's how they have historically been for seasons now so it's unfortunately nothing new.

while conflicting opinions were thrown back and forth for hours, there were [i]definitely[/i] things that everyone agreed to not touch (natasha, rescue ranger), so the [url=https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=content&d=league_rules_TF2]rules page whitelist[/url] is prob just old from 25 or 26 or whatever that season was.
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#56
28 Frags +

b4nny continues on his quest to ruin the game

b4nny continues on his quest to ruin the game
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#57
7 Frags +

ban the b4nman from the game

ban the b4nman from the game
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#58
30 Frags +

oh my god eu + na fatest season about to turn into megaaids

oh my god eu + na fatest season about to turn into megaaids
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#59
ETF2L
50 Frags +

Seconding obla on this one, the whitelist(s) posted in this thread is only used in ESEA and nowhere else. ETF2L will still run the same whitelist from previous season without any changes.

Seconding obla on this one, the whitelist(s) posted in this thread is only used in ESEA and nowhere else. ETF2L will still run the same whitelist from previous season without any changes.
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#60
-40 Frags +
botmodelol
the preseason invite meeting that only people you bothered to message knew about

Whatever conspiracy narrative you're trying to weave has no basis in reality. There were representatives from every single potential invite team known at the time, and the entire thing was publicly streamed (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/303159134?t=1h41m04s lasts about 2 hours). If you had wanted to join in, you'd have been more than welcome. I get that your team was formed last minute and was unable to contribute to the discussions while they were still relevant, and that is far from ideal, but to be frank, even if you had been there and planned to contribute anything along the lines of "this item is annoying" I doubt you would have really made much difference in the outcome of the decisions.

[quote=botmode]lol
the preseason invite meeting that only people you bothered to message knew about[/quote]
Whatever conspiracy narrative you're trying to weave has no basis in reality. There were representatives from every single potential invite team known at the time, and the entire thing was publicly streamed (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/303159134?t=1h41m04s lasts about 2 hours). If you had wanted to join in, you'd have been more than welcome. I get that your team was formed last minute and was unable to contribute to the discussions while they were still relevant, and that is far from ideal, but to be frank, even if you had been there and planned to contribute anything along the lines of "this item is annoying" I doubt you would have really made much difference in the outcome of the decisions.
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