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Ban Pred and Degu
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#31
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i actually hate tf2 players what the fuck

i actually hate tf2 players what the fuck
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#32
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Tino_sac, you are a fucking moron.

Rather be a fucking moron than a virgin idiot!!

Look, Uberchain did the right thing twittering what she did and she prolly has all the support right now of those who know her and read it. She shouldn't be afraid to name things since all this emotions the people feel after reading it should be directed at the people who told her the things she mentioned; not to the two idiots. You should report their twitter if you really care, they are being accidentally the perfect lightning rods with their comments .

“Let all the poison that lurks in the mud, hatch out.” and let the community take care of this. At the reactions here, they are more than willing to. Tagg mentioned all the names too, and people still remember who he named. Even if they are a "vital" part of the community.

[quote=Tino_]sac, you are a fucking moron.[/quote]
Rather be a fucking moron than a virgin idiot!!

Look, Uberchain did the right thing twittering what she did and she prolly has all the support right now of those who know her and read it. She shouldn't be afraid to name things since all this emotions the people feel after reading it should be directed at the people who told her the things she mentioned; not to the two idiots. You should report their twitter if you really care, they are being accidentally the perfect lightning rods with their comments .

“Let all the poison that lurks in the mud, hatch out.” and let the community take care of this. At the reactions here, they are more than willing to. Tagg mentioned all the names too, and people still remember who he named. Even if they are a "vital" part of the community.
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#33
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Talking about stuff like this on an internet forum is always a recipe for disaster.

Talking about stuff like this on an internet forum is always a recipe for disaster.
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#34
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damn i expected a ban banny tier thread not this

damn i expected a ban banny tier thread not this
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#35
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I think sac is just doing a bad job of making a few points.

Firstly, this is clearly awful. However we can see that both parties aren't completely innocent here. The things that uberchain has had to go through aren't something that anyone should wish on another person, but we are only seeing one side to the story.

We aren't the internet police. Its not our place to take action on any of these people.

Extending that, people should expect and be able to deal with a certain amount of badness in the world, not that said badness is justifyable, just that its a fact of life that people will say mean things to you.

That said I hope this situation finds a non destructive resolution.

I think sac is just doing a bad job of making a few points.

Firstly, this is clearly awful. However we can see that both parties aren't completely innocent here. The things that uberchain has had to go through aren't something that anyone should wish on another person, but we are only seeing one side to the story.

We aren't the internet police. Its not our place to take action on any of these people.

Extending that, people should expect and be able to deal with a certain amount of badness in the world, not that said badness is justifyable, just that its a fact of life that people will say mean things to you.

That said I hope this situation finds a non destructive resolution.
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#36
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ah yes the old "people should expect horrible abuse so we cant complain about it" post is finally here

ah yes the old "people should expect horrible abuse so we cant complain about it" post is finally here
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#37
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https://i.redditmedia.com/TvIvZqIzf2J1YYhaR2JPlU9gjeHQlCrknnEmHsrndn0.jpg?w=750&s=73c0b127653310eb63cd076e2f270195

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#38
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and there's the "people only speak up for people so they get sexual favours" post

and there's the "people only speak up for people so they get sexual favours" post
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#39
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talk to a therapist, all 3 of u

talk to a therapist, all 3 of u
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#40
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imagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attention

but hey you took a bunch of pictures and drew a couple of logos, cool

imagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attention

but hey you took a bunch of pictures and drew a couple of logos, cool
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#41
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did she actually shame the tf2 community or are you projecting your insecurities

did she actually shame the tf2 community or are you projecting your insecurities
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#42
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^this

^this
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#43
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Muukiimagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attention

but hey you took a bunch of pictures and drew a couple of logos, cool

ur the one shaming the community by you and your circlejerk unanimously deciding its ok to bully someone for speaking out about their sexual abuse

[quote=Muuki]imagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attention

but hey you took a bunch of pictures and drew a couple of logos, cool[/quote]
ur the one shaming the community by you and your circlejerk unanimously deciding its ok to bully someone for speaking out about their sexual abuse
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#44
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Muukiimagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attention

but hey you took a bunch of pictures and drew a couple of logos, cool

Imagine seeing someone open up about being an actual victim of sexual harassement and racism and your first go to is "wow dumb slut only wants attention who does she think she is" loool

I cant believe how many people are actually defending this type of behavior
Like yeah tf2 is small and all but how much harm is banning 2 bin players gonna do lol

[quote=Muuki]imagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attention

but hey you took a bunch of pictures and drew a couple of logos, cool[/quote]
Imagine seeing someone open up about being an actual victim of sexual harassement and racism and your first go to is "wow dumb slut only wants attention who does she think she is" loool

I cant believe how many people are actually defending this type of behavior
Like yeah tf2 is small and all but how much harm is banning 2 bin players gonna do lol
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#45
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BumFreezeMuukiimagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attention

but hey you took a bunch of pictures and drew a couple of logos, cool
ur the one shaming the community by you and your circlejerk unanimously deciding its ok to bully someone for speaking out about their sexual abuse

when did i ever say it's okay? stop inserting words into my mouth please. social media platforms and twitch chat are just very poor places to start crying about your personal problems, it's not like im promoting this kind of behaviour

zxpdid she actually shame the tf2 community or are you projecting your insecurities

have you actually read any twitch chats or posts in general or are you just white knighting

[quote=BumFreeze][quote=Muuki]imagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attention

but hey you took a bunch of pictures and drew a couple of logos, cool[/quote]
ur the one shaming the community by you and your circlejerk unanimously deciding its ok to bully someone for speaking out about their sexual abuse[/quote]
when did i ever say it's okay? stop inserting words into my mouth please. social media platforms and twitch chat are just very poor places to start crying about your personal problems, it's not like im promoting this kind of behaviour[quote=zxp]did she actually shame the tf2 community or are you projecting your insecurities[/quote]
have you actually read any twitch chats or posts in general or are you just white knighting
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#46
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call out someone for their statements / opinions
----> ur whiteknighting

[i]call out someone for their statements / opinions[/i]
----> ur whiteknighting
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#47
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are you actually dense or just pretending to be? most people here are going off whats posted in this thread

post whatever was done that is irking you or just shut the fuck up

are you actually dense or just pretending to be? most people here are going off whats posted in this thread

post whatever was done that is irking you or just shut the fuck up
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#48
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look no one gives a fuck about some E-girl ok just stop this thread no one gives a fuck about the serbian virgin either

look no one gives a fuck about some E-girl ok just stop this thread no one gives a fuck about the serbian virgin either
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#49
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I think the behavior a person displays on any platform can be taken as a demonstration of how they may act elsewhere. If people are willing enough to be horrible in one place, why should that be excused when noticed from another place?

Some of you really have no sympathy.

I think the behavior a person displays on any platform can be taken as a demonstration of how they may act elsewhere. If people are willing enough to be horrible in one place, why should that be excused when noticed from another place?

Some of you really have no sympathy.
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#51
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I've never found it too difficult to not call people racial slurs (let alone people who have just come out about sexual abuse that they've been harbouring for god knows how long). I don't get why it's so hard for the '''''''premiere'''''' talent our game has to offer to not act like edgy 13 year olds for 5 minutes.

Imagine being a sponsor and seeing that this is the state of our community. Y'all are fucking jokes if you think any of this is okay. Call it out and cut it out.

I've never found it too difficult to not call people racial slurs [i](let alone people who have just come out about sexual abuse that they've been harbouring for god knows how long)[/i]. I don't get why it's so hard for the '''''''premiere'''''' talent our game has to offer to not act like edgy 13 year olds for 5 minutes.

Imagine being a sponsor and seeing that this is the state of our community. Y'all are fucking jokes if you think any of this is okay. Call it out and cut it out.
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#52
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Thought you changed your ways, Niko.

Thought you changed your ways, Niko.
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#53
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DoomsdayexeI don't get why it's so hard for the '''''''premiere'''''' talent our game has to offer to not act like edgy 13 year olds for 5 minutes.

grinding mge doesn't leave a lot of time for grinding social skills

[quote=Doomsdayexe]I don't get why it's so hard for the '''''''premiere'''''' talent our game has to offer to not act like edgy 13 year olds for 5 minutes.[/quote]

grinding mge doesn't leave a lot of time for grinding social skills
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#54
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DoomsdayexeImagine being a sponsor and seeing that this is the state of our community. Y'all are fucking jokes if you think any of this is okay. Call it out and cut it out.

That's right guys - we'll finally get our major if we make this community a handholding hugbox! (except when we have our triennial b4nny irrational hate threads, we NEED those..)

[quote=Doomsdayexe]Imagine being a sponsor and seeing that this is the state of our community. Y'all are fucking jokes if you think any of this is okay. Call it out and cut it out.[/quote]
That's right guys - we'll finally get our major if we make this community a handholding hugbox! (except when we have our triennial b4nny irrational hate threads, we NEED those..)
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#55
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all this stuff along with some stuff ive experienced personally over the past few days just makes me wonder, why is it so difficult for people to just not be assholes? just act the same way as you would face to face.

all this stuff along with some stuff ive experienced personally over the past few days just makes me wonder, why is it so difficult for people to just not be assholes? just act the same way as you would face to face.
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#56
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Muukiimagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attentionl

you're making it seem like pred said hey uberchain stop talking about this on twitter lol and not something completely different...

you're all acting like you're better than anyone else but it's time you look at yourselves first before you judge others, or i have to remind you what you all do every single day on discord?

[quote=Muuki]imagine getting this offended when you get told to stop crying about your personal issues on twitter and shaming the tf2 community for not caring about your personal issues and bringing them outside of twitter as well because you are so thirsty for attentionl[/quote]

you're making it seem like pred said hey uberchain stop talking about this on twitter lol and not something completely different...

you're all acting like you're better than anyone else but it's time you look at yourselves first before you judge others, or i have to remind you what you all do every single day on discord?
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#57
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InternetIntellectualDoomsdayexeImagine being a sponsor and seeing that this is the state of our community. Y'all are fucking jokes if you think any of this is okay. Call it out and cut it out.That's right guys - we'll finally get our major if we make this community a handholding hugbox! (except when we have our triennial b4nny irrational hate threads, we NEED those..)

Not saying it's going to fix everything, but toxicity is rife within our community and causes so many problems for so many people. This isn't a case of ''you said something mean to me on tf.tv :(((('' anymore, this is bigotry and harassment.

[quote=InternetIntellectual][quote=Doomsdayexe]Imagine being a sponsor and seeing that this is the state of our community. Y'all are fucking jokes if you think any of this is okay. Call it out and cut it out.[/quote]
That's right guys - we'll finally get our major if we make this community a handholding hugbox! (except when we have our triennial b4nny irrational hate threads, we NEED those..)[/quote]

Not saying it's going to fix everything, but toxicity is rife within our community and causes so many problems for so many people. This isn't a case of ''you said something mean to me on tf.tv :(((('' anymore, this is bigotry and harassment.
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#58
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At any point neither of us have made jokes about sexual abuse. Should I have made clear that my picture referred to the "harassment" (people just being mean to her) and not the fact that she was a victim of a crime? Yes I have.
Does listing of mean words said to the person help anyone? No it does not. Words are easy to ignore on the internet and that's what I think everyone should do if they don't like what other people say.
I have empathy for her but in my opinion she's addressing it completely wrong way,
Mine and Pred's tweets were clearly jokes, maybe in poor taste, maybe insensitive, maybe unfunny, maybe fucking hilarious. Humour is a subjective thing. But that's what they are, jokes and words.
The worst thing is that there is more hate towards me and Pred than to the culprit.You are offended by mine and Pred's actions only if you choose to, you can just write us off as dicks and shitty human beings and move on with your day. Everyone should be disgusted by the fact uberchain has been a victim not by 2 people on the internet not being nice to her when she talked about it.
I distinguish between the statements where someone was just mean to her and where she was genuinely being abused or harassed and I don't think these 2 matters should be even considered to be equally bad or revolting things or even listed together. I support her in getting justice and getting her life back on the track after being a victim of the crime.
If you focus on bad things in your life your life is going to be bad. If you look at thousands of people giving genuine support and love and then see 2 people being dicks and making shitty jokes and what you focus on is the later you are going to have a hard life.

Do we deserve to be criticized for what we did? Yes we do. Do we deserve more attention than uberchain, people supporting her and the culprit? No we do not. But we are getting it.

At any point neither of us have made jokes about sexual abuse. Should I have made clear that my picture referred to the "harassment" (people just being mean to her) and not the fact that she was a victim of a crime? Yes I have.
Does listing of mean words said to the person help anyone? No it does not. Words are easy to ignore on the internet and that's what I think everyone should do if they don't like what other people say.
I have empathy for her but in my opinion she's addressing it completely wrong way,
Mine and Pred's tweets were clearly jokes, maybe in poor taste, maybe insensitive, maybe unfunny, maybe fucking hilarious. Humour is a subjective thing. But that's what they are, jokes and words.
The worst thing is that there is more hate towards me and Pred than to the culprit.You are offended by mine and Pred's actions only if you choose to, you can just write us off as dicks and shitty human beings and move on with your day. Everyone should be disgusted by the fact uberchain has been a victim not by 2 people on the internet not being nice to her when she talked about it.
I distinguish between the statements where someone was just mean to her and where she was genuinely being abused or harassed and I don't think these 2 matters should be even considered to be equally bad or revolting things or even listed together. I support her in getting justice and getting her life back on the track after being a victim of the crime.
If you focus on bad things in your life your life is going to be bad. If you look at thousands of people giving genuine support and love and then see 2 people being dicks and making shitty jokes and what you focus on is the later you are going to have a hard life.

Do we deserve to be criticized for what we did? Yes we do. Do we deserve more attention than uberchain, people supporting her and the culprit? No we do not. But we are getting it.
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#59
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deguAt any point neither of us have made jokes about sexual abuse. Should I have made clear that my picture referred to the "harassment" (people just being mean to her) and not the fact that she was a victim of a crime? Yes I have.
Does listing of mean words said to the person help anyone? No it does not. Words are easy to ignore on the internet and that's what I think everyone should do if they don't like what other people say.
I have empathy for her but in my opinion she's addressing it completely wrong way,
Mine and Pred's tweets were clearly jokes, maybe in poor taste, maybe insensitive, maybe unfunny, maybe fucking hilarious. Humour is a subjective thing. But that's what they are, jokes and words.
The worst thing is that there is more hate towards me and Pred than to the culprit.You are offended by mine and Pred's actions only if you choose to, you can just write us off as dicks and shitty human beings and move on with your day. Everyone should be disgusted by the fact uberchain has been a victim not by 2 people on the internet not being nice to her when she talked about it.
I distinguish between the statements where someone was just mean to her and where she was genuinely being abused or harassed and I don't think these 2 matters should be even considered to be equally bad or revolting things or even listed together. I support her in getting justice and getting her life back on the track after being a victim of the crime.
If you focus on bad things in your life your life is going to be bad. If you look at thousands of people giving genuine support and love and then see 2 people being dicks and making shitty jokes and what you focus on is the later you are going to have a hard life.

Do we deserve to be criticized for what we did? Yes we do. Do we deserve more attention than uberchain, people supporting her and the culprit? No we do not. But we are getting it.

just stop acting like a fucking child dude it isn't difficult, we can focus on both getting Uber help and getting rid of petulant morons like you. they call it ''multitasking''

[quote=degu]At any point neither of us have made jokes about sexual abuse. Should I have made clear that my picture referred to the "harassment" (people just being mean to her) and not the fact that she was a victim of a crime? Yes I have.
Does listing of mean words said to the person help anyone? No it does not. Words are easy to ignore on the internet and that's what I think everyone should do if they don't like what other people say.
I have empathy for her but in my opinion she's addressing it completely wrong way,
Mine and Pred's tweets were clearly jokes, maybe in poor taste, maybe insensitive, maybe unfunny, maybe fucking hilarious. Humour is a subjective thing. But that's what they are, jokes and words.
The worst thing is that there is more hate towards me and Pred than to the culprit.You are offended by mine and Pred's actions only if you choose to, you can just write us off as dicks and shitty human beings and move on with your day. Everyone should be disgusted by the fact uberchain has been a victim not by 2 people on the internet not being nice to her when she talked about it.
I distinguish between the statements where someone was just mean to her and where she was genuinely being abused or harassed and I don't think these 2 matters should be even considered to be equally bad or revolting things or even listed together. I support her in getting justice and getting her life back on the track after being a victim of the crime.
If you focus on bad things in your life your life is going to be bad. If you look at thousands of people giving genuine support and love and then see 2 people being dicks and making shitty jokes and what you focus on is the later you are going to have a hard life.

Do we deserve to be criticized for what we did? Yes we do. Do we deserve more attention than uberchain, people supporting her and the culprit? No we do not. But we are getting it.[/quote]

just stop acting like a fucking child dude it isn't difficult, we can focus on both getting Uber help and getting rid of petulant morons like you. they call it ''multitasking''
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deguwords

Your post just shows that you didn't even read all of uberchains tweet. That or you are just a complete insensitive retard.

[quote=degu]words[/quote]

Your post just shows that you didn't even read all of uberchains tweet. That or you are just a complete insensitive retard.
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