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Ban the "b4nny bind"
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#1
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Stupid mechanic that is essentially a get out of jail for free card when close to spawn. It is ridiculous that medics are allowed to do it in ESEA without losing uber charge percent when you spam the bind in the spawn doorway. Maybe I am the odd one out, but I think it should be banned in the future. Would be interesting to hear other's opinions on it.

EDIT: Would removing the uber percent when a medic uses the bind a fair compromise?

Stupid mechanic that is essentially a get out of jail for free card when close to spawn. It is ridiculous that medics are allowed to do it in ESEA without losing uber charge percent when you spam the bind in the spawn doorway. Maybe I am the odd one out, but I think it should be banned in the future. Would be interesting to hear other's opinions on it.

EDIT: Would removing the uber percent when a medic uses the bind a fair compromise?
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#2
38 Frags +

make stickies det in 0.2 seconds

make stickies det in 0.2 seconds
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#3
3 Frags +

not gonna happen sorry, this discussion has happened before.

not gonna happen sorry, this discussion has happened before.
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#4
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don't we have a thread for this already

don't we have a thread for this already
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#5
70 Frags +

could have ended the thread name before "bind"

could have ended the thread name before "bind"
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#6
-5 Frags +

my bad if this has been discussed on here before. I should have checked prior to making it. oops :/

my bad if this has been discussed on here before. I should have checked prior to making it. oops :/
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#7
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I’m like 90% sure that you are not allowed to do this when you have stickies placed as demo or if you are a medic

I’m like 90% sure that you are not allowed to do this when you have stickies placed as demo or if you are a medic
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#8
6 Frags +

http://www.teamfortress.tv/45874/so-about-that-quickloadout-change-bind

http://www.teamfortress.tv/45874/so-about-that-quickloadout-change-bind
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#9
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GrapeJuiceIIII’m like 90% sure that you are not allowed to do this when you have stickies placed as demo or if you are a medic

The only place it's banned I believe is to backspawn from badlands second to last as medic to save uber charge

Edit: On topic you can't ban it without plugins. It's built into the main game and and main options

[quote=GrapeJuiceIII]I’m like 90% sure that you are not allowed to do this when you have stickies placed as demo or if you are a medic[/quote]
The only place it's banned I believe is to backspawn from badlands second to last as medic to save uber charge

Edit: On topic you can't ban it without plugins. It's built into the main game and and main options
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#10
14 Frags +

in esea you can't use it to backspawn or forward spawn on medic if you have over 0% ubercharge

*all valve has to do is make it on a 1 or 2 second delay so it still serves its original purpose without the added benefits of making spawn shutter doors basically have no meaning

in esea you can't use it to backspawn or forward spawn on medic if you have over 0% ubercharge

*all valve has to do is make it on a 1 or 2 second delay so it still serves its original purpose without the added benefits of making spawn shutter doors basically have no meaning
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#11
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I remember in the sunshine regular season match between svift and ascent when yight used the fucking bind outside of spawn and made him live, if that isn't a red flag that this bind should be banned basically anyone that knows about this will have a direct advantage above someone that doesn't know/doesn't use it. Spawn should be a safe room, but you should also be punished for using it. For using it to resupply you are sacrificing point presence. (IMO i am all for what granary is like where you can only switch class/resupply when in the tape. Still its something that shouldn't be in the game IMO. At the very least banned

Yight clip: https://clips.twitch.tv/GlamorousGlamorousRutabagaMikeHogu

I remember in the sunshine regular season match between svift and ascent when yight used the fucking bind outside of spawn and made him live, if that isn't a red flag that this bind should be banned basically anyone that knows about this will have a direct advantage above someone that doesn't know/doesn't use it. Spawn should be a safe room, but you should also be punished for using it. For using it to resupply you are sacrificing point presence. (IMO i am all for what granary is like where you can only switch class/resupply when in the tape. Still its something that shouldn't be in the game IMO. At the very least banned

Yight clip: https://clips.twitch.tv/GlamorousGlamorousRutabagaMikeHogu
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#12
4 Frags +

I think your loadout should change when you touch a resupply cabinet instead of when you're in a spawn zone

I think your loadout should change when you touch a resupply cabinet instead of when you're in a spawn zone
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#13
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Even if you ban it people can still make a bind that joins class_random and then instantly joins back the class they were on. That one might even be faster than the loadout bind which sometimes takes a second to work due to item servers. Sure, you'll eliminate meds saving uber% (which is illegal in ESEA anyway) but stuff like the yight clip will still happen.

Even if you ban it people can still make a bind that joins class_random and then instantly joins back the class they were on. That one might even be faster than the loadout bind which sometimes takes a second to work due to item servers. Sure, you'll eliminate meds saving uber% (which is illegal in ESEA anyway) but stuff like the yight clip will still happen.
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#14
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SentinelEven if you ban it people can still make a bind that joins class_random and then instantly joins back the class they were on. That one might even be faster than the loadout bind which sometimes takes a second to work due to item servers. Sure, you'll eliminate meds saving uber% (which is illegal in ESEA anyway) but stuff like the yight clip will still happen.

should be banned tho, if you can't fix it ban it cause yight deserved to die there but got saved because of a broken game mechanic

[quote=Sentinel]Even if you ban it people can still make a bind that joins class_random and then instantly joins back the class they were on. That one might even be faster than the loadout bind which sometimes takes a second to work due to item servers. Sure, you'll eliminate meds saving uber% (which is illegal in ESEA anyway) but stuff like the yight clip will still happen.[/quote]
should be banned tho, if you can't fix it ban it cause yight deserved to die there but got saved because of a broken game mechanic
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#15
8 Frags +

Maybe it's just me, but spawn seems like it SHOULD be the safe space, once you get there, nothing else could really do much, and shutters are LARGELY frustrating, specially if a teammate tries to get out of spawn at the same time you're being chased. Also most spawn doors have a long way from the cabinet to the door, which is fair in the sense of making people not just stand by the shutter all the time to get health back but it slows down gameplay a lot of times for no real reason aside.

I'm all about reducing dead time and making spawn shutters less infuriating, so i wouldn't agree to ban that bind, but that could be just me or i'm thinking wrong about it. The thing is that i haven't ever had a problem with my opponents using it against me either, really, so i dont see why it should be gone.

Maybe it's just me, but spawn seems like it SHOULD be the safe space, once you get there, nothing else could really do much, and shutters are LARGELY frustrating, specially if a teammate tries to get out of spawn at the same time you're being chased. Also most spawn doors have a long way from the cabinet to the door, which is fair in the sense of making people not just stand by the shutter all the time to get health back but it slows down gameplay a lot of times for no real reason aside.

I'm all about reducing dead time and making spawn shutters less infuriating, so i wouldn't agree to ban that bind, but that could be just me or i'm thinking wrong about it. The thing is that i haven't ever had a problem with my opponents using it against me either, really, so i dont see why it should be gone.
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#16
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CorunsonSentinelEven if you ban it people can still make a bind that joins class_random and then instantly joins back the class they were on. That one might even be faster than the loadout bind which sometimes takes a second to work due to item servers. Sure, you'll eliminate meds saving uber% (which is illegal in ESEA anyway) but stuff like the yight clip will still happen.should be banned tho, if you can't fix it ban it cause yight deserved to die there but got saved because of a broken game mechanic

That's not the binds fault though. That's the fault of the map having a spawn zone that extends outside of the door. You can do what yight did by simply switching classes without any binds

[quote=Corunson][quote=Sentinel]Even if you ban it people can still make a bind that joins class_random and then instantly joins back the class they were on. That one might even be faster than the loadout bind which sometimes takes a second to work due to item servers. Sure, you'll eliminate meds saving uber% (which is illegal in ESEA anyway) but stuff like the yight clip will still happen.[/quote]
should be banned tho, if you can't fix it ban it cause yight deserved to die there but got saved because of a broken game mechanic[/quote]

That's not the binds fault though. That's the fault of the map having a spawn zone that extends outside of the door. You can do what yight did by simply switching classes without any binds
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#17
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Yeah, people should have to walk to their team if they spawn before a point is capped too, screw all that "backspawning" BS.

This is a dumb complaint about something that has very little impact on the game. If this is at the top of your priority list for problems with TF2, then congratulations, you're having a better time than most players. It should probably not carry over ubercharge %, but that's against the rules anyways, so whatever.

Yeah, people should have to walk to their team if they spawn before a point is capped too, screw all that "backspawning" BS.

This is a dumb complaint about something that has very little impact on the game. If this is at the top of your priority list for problems with TF2, then congratulations, you're having a better time than most players. It should probably not carry over ubercharge %, but that's against the rules anyways, so whatever.
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#18
34 Frags +

i thought you meant "FROYO b4nny @Rewind: fear?" when i read the title

i thought you meant "FROYO b4nny @Rewind: fear?" when i read the title
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#19
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Max_It's built into the main game and and main options

Did people not read this part of max's post^

Does nobody know that there is a quickswitch loadout setting in the normal options menu of TF2.

If you want to ban the "b4nny bind" then we're talking removing a standard option that has been in the game for years, since as long as I can remember playing this game on pc.

Like are people just blind and they don't see it?

[quote=Max_]It's built into the main game and and main options[/quote]
Did people not read this part of max's post^

Does nobody know that there is a quickswitch loadout setting in the normal options menu of TF2.

If you want to ban the "b4nny bind" then we're talking removing a standard option that has been in the game for years, since as long as I can remember playing this game on pc.

Like are people just blind and they don't see it?
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#20
25 Frags +

Why does the American meta revolve around ping and this dumb fucking bind hahhaha

Why does the American meta revolve around ping and this dumb fucking bind hahhaha
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#21
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MakWhy does the American meta revolve around ping

Because we have states bigger than your country

[quote=Mak]Why does the American meta revolve around ping[/quote]
Because we have states bigger than your country
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#22
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ProSkeezin esea you can't use it to backspawn or forward spawn on medic if you have over 0% ubercharge

pretty sure you can forward spawn with it? just not back spawn which is pretty much only applicable to badlands

[quote=ProSkeez]in esea you can't use it to backspawn or [b]forward spawn[/b] on medic if you have over 0% ubercharge[/quote]

pretty sure you can forward spawn with it? just not back spawn which is pretty much only applicable to badlands
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#23
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AntimoonMakWhy does the American meta revolve around pingBecause we have states bigger than your country

and you still suck at Olympic games :^)

[quote=Antimoon][quote=Mak]Why does the American meta revolve around ping[/quote]
Because we have states bigger than your country[/quote]
and you still suck at Olympic games :^)
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#24
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OlghaAntimoonMakWhy does the American meta revolve around pingBecause we have states bigger than your countryand you still suck at Olympic games :^)

The US has the most olympic medal wins of any country, by a margin of about 700. I'm gonna guess that you're from France, by your flag, a country with fewer total medal wins than the US has gold medals.

For real though, the significant distance between US players, and the larger percentage of rural area per square mile means that ping is a much bigger problem here. There's less telecom infrastructure over a significantly larger area. Europe, by comparison, has a bunch of smaller, denser countries with a lot more ability to ensure that there's relatively decent internet everywhere.

[quote=Olgha][quote=Antimoon][quote=Mak]Why does the American meta revolve around ping[/quote]
Because we have states bigger than your country[/quote]
and you still suck at Olympic games :^)[/quote]
The US has the most olympic medal wins of any country, by a margin of about 700. I'm gonna guess that you're from France, by your flag, a country with fewer [b]total[/b] medal wins than the US has gold medals.

For real though, the significant distance between US players, and the larger percentage of rural area per square mile means that ping is a much bigger problem here. There's less telecom infrastructure over a significantly larger area. Europe, by comparison, has a bunch of smaller, denser countries with a lot more ability to ensure that there's relatively decent internet everywhere.
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#25
6 Frags +

its an ingame option, not a chance it can be banned

its an ingame option, not a chance it can be banned
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#26
32 Frags +

ban double jump

ban double jump
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#27
5 Frags +

Spawn: *exists*
It's a Free Real Estate

Spawn: *exists*
It's a Free Real Estate
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#28
1 Frags +

I agree backspawning as medic is kind of exploit-y but in general if you reach the spawn area you are entitled to survive. Maybe you won't like Overwatch being given as an example, but in that game it's impossible to shoot someone past a spawn door whether it's open or not.

I agree backspawning as medic is kind of exploit-y but in general if you reach the spawn area you are entitled to survive. Maybe you won't like Overwatch being given as an example, but in that game it's impossible to shoot someone past a spawn door whether it's open or not.
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#29
1 Frags +

JARATE!

JARATE!
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#30
cp_granary_pro
11 Frags +

Hello i am strong esea medic and refuse to abide by fascist anti bind rule
i hope my fellow medic mains will follow suite
#resist

Hello i am strong esea medic and refuse to abide by fascist anti bind rule
i hope my fellow medic mains will follow suite
#resist
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