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Poll for my Psychology major
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#1
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WOULD U rather have in TF2:

20 ping

OR

150 ping

AND WHICH IS BETTER?

WOULD U rather have in TF2:

20 ping

OR

150 ping

AND WHICH IS BETTER?
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#2
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150 so i can be unhittable like leg1tbrazillian

150 so i can be unhittable like leg1tbrazillian
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#3
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150 ping so i can snipe people behind walls all day long like a big gay

150 ping so i can snipe people behind walls all day long like a big gay
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#4
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20
How is this related to psychology?

20
How is this related to psychology?
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#5
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would you rather have 20 dollars or 150 dollars.

would you rather have 20 dollars or 150 dollars.
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#6
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I played that NA ulti with 150 ping. Horrible!
If you play a projectile class, the higher the ping, the worse the performance.

I played that NA ulti with 150 ping. Horrible!
If you play a projectile class, the higher the ping, the worse the performance.
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#7
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Infinitymore of a 5 ping player myself...
[quote=Infinity]more of a 5 ping player myself...[/quote]
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#8
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VisI played that NA ulti with 150 ping. Horrible!
If you play a projectile class, the higher the ping, the worse the performance.

you sound like trump

[quote=Vis]I played that NA ulti with 150 ping. Horrible!
If you play a projectile class, the higher the ping, the worse the performance.[/quote]
you sound like trump
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#9
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20 cus I main demo and 150 would be p gross

20 cus I main demo and 150 would be p gross
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#10
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#11
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Im not an Expert but I think 20 :3

Good Luck with your Major friend

Im not an Expert but I think 20 :3

Good Luck with your Major friend
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#12
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hawkield20
How is this related to psychology?

Can't let you know the purpose of my study until the final recordings are written up. Hope you understand.

[quote=hawkield]20
How is this related to psychology?[/quote]

Can't let you know the purpose of my study until the final recordings are written up. Hope you understand.
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#13
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Brimstone150 ping so i can snipe people behind walls all day long like a big gay

can't you do that with 20 ping already?

[quote=Brimstone]150 ping so i can snipe people behind walls all day long like a big gay[/quote]
can't you do that with 20 ping already?
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#14
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It doesn't make sense when you guys say playing with 200 is better because you have a big delay, you can't take close fights and you are going to die behind walls too. If you watch my pov i'm hitting meatshots but they always do 30~60. The best ping is 5 in any class.

People say that playing sniper with high ping is good, but in my experience sometimes i hit shots when i shouldn't. On the other hand when the enemy team has a sniper and i try to pick him he sees me first and i then up dead before i can even see him. And personally i prefer to hit shots when im sure they hit it.

When people say this I feel like they are trying to downgrade me and in my opinion only players who do not think about it speak this because actually I have to be much better than the people in my division to have any chance. For you guys do not hit me or I hit many shots have many hours of dedication behind (1 year ago I had 300 hours of scout and 1100 soldier, now I have 1288.9 hours as scout and 1210.6 hours as soldier). Another situation in which I think a lot, imagine two good scouts but one has 200 of ping and the other 20, which one would you pick? I would easily pick the 20, even if the 200 is a bit better, because the ping limits some things, like uber exchanges and 1v1.

Sorry for the walltext and thanks for reading. :)

It doesn't make sense when you guys say playing with 200 is better because you have a big delay, you can't take close fights and you are going to die behind walls too. If you watch my pov i'm hitting meatshots but they always do 30~60. The best ping is 5 in any class.

People say that playing sniper with high ping is good, but in my experience sometimes i hit shots when i shouldn't. On the other hand when the enemy team has a sniper and i try to pick him he sees me first and i then up dead before i can even see him. And personally i prefer to hit shots when im sure they hit it.

When people say this I feel like they are trying to downgrade me and in my opinion only players who do not think about it speak this because actually I have to be much better than the people in my division to have any chance. For you guys do not hit me or I hit many shots have many hours of dedication behind (1 year ago I had 300 hours of scout and 1100 soldier, now I have 1288.9 hours as scout and 1210.6 hours as soldier). Another situation in which I think a lot, imagine two good scouts but one has 200 of ping and the other 20, which one would you pick? I would easily pick the 20, even if the 200 is a bit better, because the ping limits some things, like uber exchanges and 1v1.

Sorry for the walltext and thanks for reading. :)
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#15
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SA invasion

SA invasion
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#16
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crgIt doesn't make sense when you guys say playing with 200 is better because you have a big delay, you can't take close fights and you are going to die behind walls too. If you watch my pov i'm hitting meatshots but they always do 30~60. The best ping is 5 in any class.
People say that playing sniper with high ping is good, but in my experience sometimes i hit shots when i shouldn't. On the other hand when the enemy team has a sniper and i try to pick him he sees me first and i then up dead before i can even see him. And personally i prefer to hit shots when im sure they hit it.
When people say this I feel like they are trying to downgrade me and in my opinion only players who do not think about it speak this because actually I have to be much better than the people in my division to have any chance. For you guys do not hit me or I hit many shots have many hours of dedication behind (1 year ago I had 300 hours of scout and 1100 soldier, now I have 1288.9 hours as scout and 1210.6 hours as soldier). Another situation in which I think a lot, imagine two good scouts but one has 200 of ping and the other 20, which one would you pick? I would easily pick the 20, even if the 200 is a bit better, because the ping limits some things, like uber exchanges and 1v1.
Sorry for the walltext and thanks for reading. :)

High Ping is mostly disadvantagous, but it does have advantages especially for hitscan.

Having 200 ping means you can peek and scope, and most likely shoot by the time anyone on the other team reacts to you and starts to adjust, but the reverse of this is true if they're peeking you in which case they will have the advantage. If you and the opponent are peeking at the same time the opponent in theory would have a slight upper hand, most players in NA are not used to playing against high ping opponents; while high ping players in NA are probably used to playing opponents with sub 100ms ping.

This is largely why a lot of SA players seem to be brutally effective in NA when they play Scout/Sniper as they're used to playing with high ping when the opponents are not used to playing against it, add in the peeking advantage and you get Brazilian and other SA players being particularly good at getting entry frags.

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correct word usage thank you jetz.

[quote=crg]It doesn't make sense when you guys say playing with 200 is better because you have a big delay, you can't take close fights and you are going to die behind walls too. If you watch my pov i'm hitting meatshots but they always do 30~60. The best ping is 5 in any class.
People say that playing sniper with high ping is good, but in my experience sometimes i hit shots when i shouldn't. On the other hand when the enemy team has a sniper and i try to pick him he sees me first and i then up dead before i can even see him. And personally i prefer to hit shots when im sure they hit it.
When people say this I feel like they are trying to downgrade me and in my opinion only players who do not think about it speak this because actually I have to be much better than the people in my division to have any chance. For you guys do not hit me or I hit many shots have many hours of dedication behind (1 year ago I had 300 hours of scout and 1100 soldier, now I have 1288.9 hours as scout and 1210.6 hours as soldier). Another situation in which I think a lot, imagine two good scouts but one has 200 of ping and the other 20, which one would you pick? I would easily pick the 20, even if the 200 is a bit better, because the ping limits some things, like uber exchanges and 1v1.
Sorry for the walltext and thanks for reading. :)[/quote]

High Ping is mostly disadvantagous, but it does have advantages especially for hitscan.

Having 200 ping means you can peek and scope, and most likely shoot by the time anyone on the other team reacts to you and starts to adjust, but the reverse of this is true if they're peeking you in which case they will have the advantage. If you and the opponent are peeking at the same time the opponent in theory would have a slight upper hand, most players in NA are not used to playing against high ping opponents; while high ping players in NA are probably used to playing opponents with sub 100ms ping.

This is largely why a lot of SA players seem to be brutally effective in NA when they play Scout/Sniper as they're used to playing with high ping when the opponents are not used to playing against it, add in the peeking advantage and you get Brazilian and other SA players being particularly good at getting entry frags.

-edit-
correct word usage thank you jetz.
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#17
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Peek = look around corner

Peak = top of a mountain

Also ive played quite a few euro pugs and i can say 150+ ping makes scout significantly harder and sniper stays the same except for svs which also gets harder.

Peek = look around corner

Peak = top of a mountain

Also ive played quite a few euro pugs and i can say 150+ ping makes scout significantly harder and sniper stays the same except for svs which also gets harder.
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#18
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Thank you for that Jetz

Thank you for that Jetz
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#19
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Comanglia High Ping is mostly disadvantagous, but it does have advantages especially for hitscan.

Having 200 ping means you can peak and scope, and most likely shoot by the time anyone on the other team reacts to you and starts to adjust, but the reverse of this is true if they're peaking you in which case they will have the advantage. If you and the opponent are peaking at the same time the opponent in theory would have a slight upper hand, most players in NA are not used to playing against high ping opponents; while high ping players in NA are probably used to playing opponents with sub 100ms ping.

This is largely why a lot of SA players seem to be brutally effective in NA when they play Scout/Sniper as they're used to playing with high ping when the opponents are not used to playing against it, add in the peaking advantage and you get Brazilian and other SA players being particularly good at getting entry frags.

Brazilian players arent used to high ping at all. Unless you live in the middle of the fucking amazon forest you are most likely going to get <50 ping to any server. IF you aren't warping a lot your movement isnt going to change in a way that the other players cant hit you, this is just an execuse. I know what im talking about because powah's friends used to play pugs here from time to time and also bdonski played a season of the LBTF and got eliminated by my team.

[quote=Comanglia] High Ping is mostly disadvantagous, but it does have advantages especially for hitscan.

Having 200 ping means you can peak and scope, and most likely shoot by the time anyone on the other team reacts to you and starts to adjust, but the reverse of this is true if they're peaking you in which case they will have the advantage. If you and the opponent are peaking at the same time the opponent in theory would have a slight upper hand, most players in NA are not used to playing against high ping opponents; while high ping players in NA are probably used to playing opponents with sub 100ms ping.

This is largely why a lot of SA players seem to be brutally effective in NA when they play Scout/Sniper as they're used to playing with high ping when the opponents are not used to playing against it, add in the peaking advantage and you get Brazilian and other SA players being particularly good at getting entry frags.[/quote]

Brazilian players arent used to high ping at all. Unless you live in the middle of the fucking amazon forest you are most likely going to get <50 ping to any server. IF you aren't warping a lot your movement isnt going to change in a way that the other players cant hit you, this is just an execuse. I know what im talking about because powah's friends used to play pugs here from time to time and also bdonski played a season of the LBTF and got eliminated by my team.
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#20
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150 ping any day

150 ping any day
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#21
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whoever thinks 130+ ping is an advantage of any sort is just extremely delusional lmao

whoever thinks 130+ ping is an advantage of any sort is just extremely delusional lmao
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#22
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5 ping

5 ping
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#23
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crgComanglia High Ping is mostly disadvantagous, but it does have advantages especially for hitscan.

Having 200 ping means you can peak and scope, and most likely shoot by the time anyone on the other team reacts to you and starts to adjust, but the reverse of this is true if they're peaking you in which case they will have the advantage. If you and the opponent are peaking at the same time the opponent in theory would have a slight upper hand, most players in NA are not used to playing against high ping opponents; while high ping players in NA are probably used to playing opponents with sub 100ms ping.

This is largely why a lot of SA players seem to be brutally effective in NA when they play Scout/Sniper as they're used to playing with high ping when the opponents are not used to playing against it, add in the peaking advantage and you get Brazilian and other SA players being particularly good at getting entry frags.

Brazilian players arent used to high ping at all.

If they play against NA players on NA servers with any form of regular practice i.e. Scrims and Matches vs the amount of experience NA players who play in NA only get with having to play against ~200 ping players. Obviously this doesn't apply to players who play only within their region.

SA players who play NA will get roughly ~10hrs/week of practice at 200ms ping where basically all of their opponents are sub 100ms ping.

While NA players who play NA will get roughly 30min to 2hrs tops / week of practice vs a small handful of players who have ~200ms ping.

Also my argument is that high ping players who practice at high ping tend to make good entry frag players on HITSCAN. They get boned in basically every other way vs low ping players. They are more likely to be the 1st frag of a push, they're more likely to lose otherwise even 1v1s, they can't dodge projectiles as well etc etc.

[quote=crg][quote=Comanglia] High Ping is mostly disadvantagous, but it does have advantages especially for hitscan.

Having 200 ping means you can peak and scope, and most likely shoot by the time anyone on the other team reacts to you and starts to adjust, but the reverse of this is true if they're peaking you in which case they will have the advantage. If you and the opponent are peaking at the same time the opponent in theory would have a slight upper hand, most players in NA are not used to playing against high ping opponents; while high ping players in NA are probably used to playing opponents with sub 100ms ping.

This is largely why a lot of SA players seem to be brutally effective in NA when they play Scout/Sniper as they're used to playing with high ping when the opponents are not used to playing against it, add in the peaking advantage and you get Brazilian and other SA players being particularly good at getting entry frags.[/quote]

Brazilian players arent used to high ping at all. [/quote]

If they play against NA players on NA servers with any form of regular practice i.e. Scrims and Matches vs the amount of experience NA players who play in NA only get with having to play against ~200 ping players. Obviously this doesn't apply to players who play only within their region.

SA players who play NA will get roughly ~10hrs/week of practice at 200ms ping where basically all of their opponents are sub 100ms ping.

While NA players who play NA will get roughly 30min to 2hrs tops / week of practice vs a small handful of players who have ~200ms ping.

Also my argument is that high ping players who practice at high ping tend to make good entry frag players on HITSCAN. They get boned in basically every other way vs low ping players. They are more likely to be the 1st frag of a push, they're more likely to lose otherwise even 1v1s, they can't dodge projectiles as well etc etc.
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#24
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god tier shitpost

[As] All-Class Mge East Night of 4/24/2018

god tier shitpost

[As] All-Class Mge East Night of 4/24/2018
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#25
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150 so i can make excuses when i drop

150 so i can make excuses when i drop
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#26
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20 so i can have heat seeking rockets and a shotgun

20 so i can have heat seeking rockets and a shotgun
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#27
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According to Jung, high ping sometimes overwhelms a person's actions; for example, when the conscious mind is shocked, confused, or paralyzed by getting backstabbed. 'A demoman who is possessed by his ping is always standing in his own light and falling into his own traps ... fragging below his own level': hence, in terms of the story of Muselk and B4nny, 'it must be Muselk, the conscious personality, who integrates the ping... and not vice versa. Otherwise the conscious becomes the slave of the ping'.

Matchmaking inevitably raises that very possibility. As the process continues, and "the high ping spy leaves the bright upper world ... sinks back into its own depths...below, in the shadows of the map", so too what comes to the forefront is "what was hidden under the mask of conventional adaptation: the hitbox", with the result that "front and back are no longer divided but are brought together in an—admittedly precarious—unity."

The impact of such "confrontation with high ping produces at first a dead balance, a stand-still that hampers gameplay decisions and makes projectiles ineffective...tenebrositas, chaos, melancholia." Consequently, (as Jung knew from personal experience) "in this time of descent—one, three, seven facestabs, more or less—genuine courage and strength are required", with no certainty of emergence. Nevertheless, Jung remained of the opinion that while "no one should deny the danger of the descent ... every descent is followed by an Ascent ...enantiodromia"; and assimilation of—rather than possession by—the ping becomes at last a real possibility.

According to Jung, high ping sometimes overwhelms a person's actions; for example, when the conscious mind is shocked, confused, or paralyzed by getting backstabbed. 'A demoman who is possessed by his ping is always standing in his own light and falling into his own traps ... fragging below his own level': hence, in terms of the story of Muselk and B4nny, 'it must be Muselk, the conscious personality, who integrates the ping... and not vice versa. Otherwise the conscious becomes the slave of the ping'.

Matchmaking inevitably raises that very possibility. As the process continues, and "the high ping spy leaves the bright upper world ... sinks back into its own depths...below, in the shadows of the map", so too what comes to the forefront is "what was hidden under the mask of conventional adaptation: the hitbox", with the result that "front and back are no longer divided but are brought together in an—admittedly precarious—unity."

The impact of such "confrontation with high ping produces at first a dead balance, a stand-still that hampers gameplay decisions and makes projectiles ineffective...tenebrositas, chaos, melancholia." Consequently, (as Jung knew from personal experience) "in this time of descent—one, three, seven facestabs, more or less—genuine courage and strength are required", with no certainty of emergence. Nevertheless, Jung remained of the opinion that while "no one should deny the danger of the descent ... every descent is followed by an Ascent ...enantiodromia"; and assimilation of—rather than possession by—the ping becomes at last a real possibility.
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#28
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150 ping so I can blame all my drops on ping

150 ping so I can blame all my drops on ping
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#29
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i would highly recommend anybody who believes high ping holds any advantages at all (besides mental) to watch the following video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JaCcsmjYM8

i would highly recommend anybody who believes high ping holds any advantages at all (besides mental) to watch the following video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JaCcsmjYM8
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#30
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thank you for the educational video but i'm 99% sure all of us are just joking

thank you for the educational video but i'm 99% sure all of us are just joking
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